| I'm not a fan of either tbh, but I've seen that if an anime contains yaoi people comment that it's gross or won't watch it, but most don't seem to mind yuri. Is it because there are more males in MAL? That's the most logical explanation actually... Edit: Okay, changed titles to shonen/shojo ai. As in...not porn. |
FalcieNov 29, 2013 5:46 PM
| Please understand. |
| I hate both unless it's handled very well (not shown off/used as a selling point) and is canonical. In that case, it's the same as any other thing going on in the story so I don't dislike or like it. If it's abused, handled poorly, fanservicey, shipping-only (non canon) or whatever else? I hate it because it's shit, not because it's gay. Otherwise, just like not liking seeing dudes fucking yet enjoying seeing tits symmetrical docking, I don't see what's confusing about liking one but not the other. edit - are we talking about porn? Then just ignore that whole first paragraph. I thought he meant in general, like how many people dropped shin sekai yori because of some barely relevant stuff. |
TallonKarrde23Aug 28, 2013 8:12 PM
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| more males watch anime. |
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| I'm a straight male, do you really think i want to watch 2 cartoon guys packing each others fudge? |
私のホバークラフトはウナギでいっぱいです。 |
| Because yaoi is a bunch of gay dudes and that's gay while yuri has the chance of hot girls going all out lesbian which is more awesomer |
| Same reason why people find gays gross and lesbians awesome. |
| "One does not simply say no to a loli with animal ears and tail." http://myanimelist.net/animelist/iAmEcchi |
| Because girl on girl is hot and male on male is eww. |
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| I thought it was the other way around...well I prefer Yuri anyways. |
| I like tits, not dicks. |
Mclovinballs said: Because yaoi is a bunch of gay dudes and that's gay while yuri has the chance of hot girls going all out lesbian which is more awesomer Wise words, King Arthur. |
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| Because anime fans have 97% guys and 3 % female. In those numbers we can say that 5-10% are gay and like yaoi. So minorities and majorities are at play. (The numbers stated here are just my opinion. Not facts but logically anime has more guy fans than girl fans.) |
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| People are silly. I like watching good Yaoi as much as anything else. |
| Hah, well there are some people who don't really care for either all that much too. I'd rather see straight porn myself. |
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| Sexuality demographics. Most people are heterosexual, statistically*, that's about it. Although I think people are just being generally insensitive by referring to such things as "gross" or whatnot, not your thing, fine, don't need to act like we're back in grade school. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States |
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Mclovinballs said: Because yaoi is a bunch of gay dudes and that's gay while yuri has the chance of hot girls going all out lesbian which is more awesomer Jauregui said: I like tits, not dicks. NeoAnkara said: Because girl on girl is hot and male on male is eww. Sourire said: more males watch anime. This sums everything up. |
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| It's kind of awkward as a straight dude watching other dudes fall in love with each other. |
| Because double standards. |
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| Yuri is cute and yaoi is gross :D end of discussion :P |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Shojo-chanCat said: I don't mind reading/watching both. I usually have more Yaoi/Yuri pairings than Hetero ones. Anyway, I'm pretty sure a bunch of straight guys hate Yaoi due to the fangirls, and how it's "ruining the fandom(s)", blah blah blah and all that junk. It's either the fangirls, or they just hate the idea of two guys being with each other, and at the same time think two girls being with each other is hot, orz. But the ones with actual sense will dislike Yaoi because of the fanservice, or the plots, you know the good reasons to hate it that is understandable, unlike the homophobic reasons. I would have to say that it's very sad when someone writes off a show for any shallow reasoning. It's the same reason that I argue that people shouldn't drop Accel World just because the main character is a fat kid. However, I'm a guy, so I don't enjoy watching gay fanservice. It really isn't my forte. I don't even enjoy regular male-based fanservice that much. It's just not enjoyable to watch plot-less fanservice, especially if it's not directed at my demographic. |
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| Cuz Yuri > Yaoi. I'd rather watch lesbian porn than gay porn :) (Btw I'm a guy) |
| if were are talking about real gaaruzu rabu manga.. and not shameless fanserve-productions and hardcore hentai.. yuri anime is made for girls. I would say 95% of all yuri is made for girls. Same with yaoi.. it's made for girls. In Japan guys just stay 50ft from yuri and yaoi at don't really cares what goes on in those manga. I think the only haters of yaoi are white 15 old homophobic virgins. ie MAL |
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| I don't mind either, but I do prefer Yuri unless one of the guys looks like a female. >Traps |
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| >all these stupid answers Sigh... It's more common for straight males to be disgusted by gays where it's not as common for woman with lesbians. Also the MAL userbase probably have more males. Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. |
| Because most straight guys are homophobic bigots, and being a yuri fan just adds an extra layer of hypocrisy seeing as they're jacking off to cartoon lesbians while still thinking that homosexuals are sick perverts. |
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Vanisher said: Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. Correct. Yaoi Fangirls are out-of-the-norm. |
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| Because in yuri there are 3 holes to fap to. Not 2 like yaoi |
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Falcie said: I'm not a fan of either tbh, but I've seen that if an anime contains yaoi people comment that it's gross or won't watch it, but most don't seem to mind yuri. Is it because there are more males in MAL? That's the most logical explanation actually... Lots of alpha male fagophobes, that's why. But seriously, it's probably because they're heterosexual. I won't look at yaoi, but I don't mind yuri. I don't hate gays, I just don't want to see a sword fight. I'm not going to go straight up homophobe and drop shows if it uses it as part of the story though (Shinsekai Yori). |
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Vanisher said: Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. Not really. As a yaoi fanboy who deals with them everyday, they're pretty normal people if you stop viewing them as these weird freaks. Then again, I am basically a squeeing yaoi fangirl in every respect except gender. On-topic: OP, I ask myself this question everyday. |
Scriptor said: Vanisher said: Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. Not really. As a yaoi fanboy who deals with them everyday, they're pretty normal people if you stop viewing them as these weird freaks. Then again, I am basically a squeeing yaoi fangirl in every respect except gender. On-topic: OP, I ask myself this question everyday. It's not only that they squeal/act obnoxious. It's also that they are rude to others, and see others taste in fanservice/regular anime as inferior to their own. They also seem to have a problem with hetero couples in regular romance anime. Which baffles me. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Scriptor said: Vanisher said: Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. Not really. As a yaoi fanboy who deals with them everyday, they're pretty normal people if you stop viewing them as these weird freaks. Then again, I am basically a squeeing yaoi fangirl in every respect except gender. On-topic: OP, I ask myself this question everyday. May I get to know you? |
YandereTheEmo said: It's not only that they squeal/act obnoxious. It's also that they are rude to others, and see others taste in fanservice/regular anime as inferior to their own. >Implying yurifans don't do this as well You sure are casting the first stone rather quickly. They also seem to have a problem with hetero couples in regular romance anime. Which baffles me. I'm well aware that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I've seen this behavior from yurifans far more than I have from yaoifans. Kaede-Tan said: May I get to know you? Sure, I guess. I assume we share interests? |
Scriptor said: 10/10 goddammit, fanboy myself and I feel the same exact way!Vanisher said: Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. Not really. As a yaoi fanboy who deals with them everyday, they're pretty normal people if you stop viewing them as these weird freaks. Then again, I am basically a squeeing yaoi fangirl in every respect except gender. On-topic: OP, I ask myself this question everyday. @topic: I remember hearing something about seeing Yaoi reminds some guys of getting feces on their down there? I don't remember from where, but there was a huge hateful group with excuses along those lines |
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| Just take one good look at Shingeki no Kyojin forums, and you'll realize how extremist every fan group can get for their ships. |
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Scriptor said: YandereTheEmo said: It's not only that they squeal/act obnoxious. It's also that they are rude to others, and see others taste in fanservice/regular anime as inferior to their own. >Implying yurifans don't do this as well You sure are casting the first stone rather quickly. They also seem to have a problem with hetero couples in regular romance anime. Which baffles me. I'm well aware that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I've seen this behavior from yurifans far more than I have from yaoifans. Kaede-Tan said: May I get to know you? Sure, I guess. I assume we share interests? I don't know, but the way you described yourself made me smile and I believe that people who make me smile are worth trying to know. ...of course, I don't want to sound creepy. I guess that might've sounded weird. |
Ratohnhaketon said: Just look at FFN. The number of Naruto and Sasuke fanfic is higher than any straight fanfic thereJust take one good look at Shingeki no Kyojin forums, and you'll realize how extremist every fan group can get for their ships. |
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Scriptor said: YandereTheEmo said: It's not only that they squeal/act obnoxious. It's also that they are rude to others, and see others taste in fanservice/regular anime as inferior to their own. >Implying yurifans don't do this as well You sure are casting the first stone rather quickly. They also seem to have a problem with hetero couples in regular romance anime. Which baffles me. I'm well aware that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I've seen this behavior from yurifans far more than I have from yaoifans. Kaede-Tan said: May I get to know you? Sure, I guess. I assume we share interests? I apologize, but I don't typically see Yuri fans popping out and stating that they are Yuri fans out of nowhere. I assume that from what you insinuated, you've had a lot of discussions with Yuri Fans? Personally speaking, I don't mind either, but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch either. Now, if you consider any "moe" fan a Yuri fan, than I've had a few discussions with them, but otherwise, I'm not sure where your statistics are coming from. Of course there's like-people on either side of the argument, but, just like you've had more issues with Yuri Fans, I've had more problems with Yaoi Fans. You seemed to cast off what I said as, "Well Yuri fans do it too, so what you said is invalid" rather than actually discussing much with me. However, I may be judging what you said incorrectly. Did I miss any of your "subtle-implications" ? |
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| Is this a serious question? |
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Pocketasces said: Yuri is for girls? really? 0.oif were are talking about real gaaruzu rabu manga.. and not shameless fanserve-productions and hardcore hentai.. yuri anime is made for girls. I would say 95% of all yuri is made for girls. Same with yaoi.. it's made for girls. In Japan guys just stay 50ft from yuri and yaoi at don't really cares what goes on in those manga. I think the only haters of yaoi are white 15 old homophobic virgins. ie MAL |
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| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| Yuri/Yaoi is equally terrible. UGH, it brings a sour taste to my mouth. |
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Shojo-chanCat said: Vanisher said: >all these stupid answers Sigh... It's more common for straight males to be disgusted by gays where it's not as common for woman with lesbians. Also the MAL userbase probably have more males. Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. There are people out there that hate certain series/genres/demographics just because of the fans. I listed that people can hate Yaoi only because fangirls, since there are people in this world who do exactly that. I didn't necessarily mean hating Yaoi and hating Yaoi fangirls is basically the same thing, if you’re talking about my post that is. Also, I meant that if you hate Yaoi because of the Fujoshis, then the reason with hating it isn't understandable. You should dislike the fangirls, not Yaoi itself. Saying that you dislike the plot-less fanservice makes more sense than saying you hate Fujoshis. But I don’t really care if someone’s reason of hating something makes absolute sense or not, I just won’t involve myself in it. And then there are just people who think both Yuri and Yaoi are disgusting because it's gay… Personally speaking, you shouldn't question anyone's reasoning for disliking a genre/type of show that isn't meant for their demographic. I wouldn't ever question a girl for disliking a "pure ecchi anime," for it's not directed at them in regards to what the producers/writers intend. I do understand finding it weird that people would dislike a type of thing because of its fans. However, people like to relate common things, so psychologically speaking, it's really not that strange. Now, this doesn't mean that it's not uncalled for, but it's not that ridiculous. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: Scriptor said: Vanisher said: Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. Not really. As a yaoi fanboy who deals with them everyday, they're pretty normal people if you stop viewing them as these weird freaks. Then again, I am basically a squeeing yaoi fangirl in every respect except gender. On-topic: OP, I ask myself this question everyday. It's not only that they squeal/act obnoxious. It's also that they are rude to others, and see others taste in fanservice/regular anime as inferior to their own. They also seem to have a problem with hetero couples in regular romance anime. Which baffles me. I find Fujoshis way more vocal and "noisy". As @YandereTheEmo said it's way more common to see them jumping out of nowhere to just basically state that they are yaoi fangirls. They also make pairings OUT OF NO FUCKING WHERE and treat them as canon, I know that some yurifans do the same but not as much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everyone that likes yaoi is like that. Hiryu12 said: Pocketasces said: Yuri is for girls? really? 0.oif were are talking about real gaaruzu rabu manga.. and not shameless fanserve-productions and hardcore hentai.. yuri anime is made for girls. I would say 95% of all yuri is made for girls. Same with yaoi.. it's made for girls. In Japan guys just stay 50ft from yuri and yaoi at don't really cares what goes on in those manga. I think the only haters of yaoi are white 15 old homophobic virgins. ie MAL A lot if not most Yuri (I mean real yuri) is done by female authors and are kinda targeted to female. Your average straight male don't really like yuri, they might like a scene in your typical harem shit but that's all. |
VanisherAug 28, 2013 10:31 PM
Shojo-chanCat said: Vanisher said: >all these stupid answers Sigh... It's more common for straight males to be disgusted by gays where it's not as common for woman with lesbians. Also the MAL userbase probably have more males. Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. There are people out there that hate certain series/genres/demographics just because of the fans. I listed that people can hate Yaoi only because fangirls, since there are people in this world who do exactly that. I didn't necessarily mean hating Yaoi and hating Yaoi fangirls is basically the same thing, if you’re talking about my post that is. Also, I meant that if you hate Yaoi because of the Fujoshis, then the reason with hating it isn't understandable. You should dislike the fangirls, not Yaoi itself. Saying that you dislike the plot-less fanservice makes more sense than saying you hate Fujoshis. But I don’t really care if someone’s reason of hating something makes absolute sense or not, I just won’t involve myself in it. And then there are just people who think both Yuri and Yaoi are disgusting because it's gay… I wasn't talking about your post, just saying that in general since a lot of people mix hating a genre with hating it's fans. I actually agree with you. |
Shojo-chanCat said: YandereTheEmo said: Shojo-chanCat said: Vanisher said: >all these stupid answers Sigh... It's more common for straight males to be disgusted by gays where it's not as common for woman with lesbians. Also the MAL userbase probably have more males. Don't confuse hating yaoi with hating yaoi fangirls, most of them are obnoxious. There are people out there that hate certain series/genres/demographics just because of the fans. I listed that people can hate Yaoi only because fangirls, since there are people in this world who do exactly that. I didn't necessarily mean hating Yaoi and hating Yaoi fangirls is basically the same thing, if you’re talking about my post that is. Also, I meant that if you hate Yaoi because of the Fujoshis, then the reason with hating it isn't understandable. You should dislike the fangirls, not Yaoi itself. Saying that you dislike the plot-less fanservice makes more sense than saying you hate Fujoshis. But I don’t really care if someone’s reason of hating something makes absolute sense or not, I just won’t involve myself in it. And then there are just people who think both Yuri and Yaoi are disgusting because it's gay… Personally speaking, you shouldn't question anyone's reasoning for disliking a genre/type of show that isn't meant for their demographic. I wouldn't ever question a girl for disliking a "pure ecchi anime," for it's not directed at them in regards to what the producers/writers intend. I do understand finding it weird that people would dislike a type of thing because of its fans. However, people like to relate common things, so psychologically speaking, it's really not that strange. Now, this doesn't mean that it's not uncalled for, but it's not that ridiculous. I can understand your reasoning on why we shouldn't really judge other people and how they enter anime genres, but I really can’t understand how some people can hate fans of a fanbase, thus hating the genre itself while not even checking it out. But, I’m based on a philosophy that you should at least check out a genre before hating it, no matter how dumb it sounds. Although I’m not naïve enough to forget that people have opinions different from mine and that I should understand others, so I can agree with your reply, but hating a genre purely because of a fanbase still sounds a little ridiculous in my head. I think you've misunderstood me. I don't hate the genre because of the fanbase. Do I find the fanbase a bit annoying? Yes. Is that the reason why I don't watch Yaoi? Not at all. I've tried Yaoi before, and it's just not my cup of tea. I don't like watching a submissive guy get dominated by what seems to be a stereotypical shoujo-prince lead. It's just not the kind of romance that I enjoy. Now, will I go out of my way to try Yaoi? No. It's not directed at me as a straight male, so it's harder for me to actually find entertainment value in it. It also boils down to the fact that the romance comes out as very cliche, and overdone. That's just my opinion though. However, I can deal with Yaoi themes. I love seeing some subtle-yaoi themes in Josei anime/manga. |
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| I've just read more Yuri with plot than Yaoi. It's kind of like that in my eyes, plus when I was young my friend mentally scarred me by flashing Yaoi in my face at a young age, so yeah. It just has to have plot to please me. But a lot of straight men like to watch two women at it and some girls can fantasize about it. |
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moonkingdomify said: I've just read more Yuri with plot than Yaoi. It's kind of like that in my eyes, plus when I was young my friend mentally scarred me by flashing Yaoi in my face at a young age, so yeah. It just has to have plot to please me. But a lot of straight men like to watch two women at it and some girls can fantasize about it. Yeah girls can fantasize about anything that they want to My example of "fangirling off" which is a normal reaction: http://i.imgur.com/qYzIiFD.gif Anyone have a good one for "fanguying off" |
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