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Jul 9, 2012 2:47 PM
#1
When you compare to everything else it seems that ecchi ones are always rated ''badly'' well not so badly but if like some anime get +8 rating ecchi one has just a bit above rating 7 + Every manga version seem to have a lot better ratings (ecchi ones) and those ecchi animes don't seem to be even made so badly.. So I wonder why ecchi animes get so ''badly'' rated? |
Jul 9, 2012 2:51 PM
#2
Because people who don't actually like ecchi watch it in hopes of it turning into something better. Then they're disappointed by the amount of tits thrown in their face and the plot, in my experience, seems to always be lacking. It's also pretty hard to take a show seriously when it's just panty shots and boobs. |
Jul 9, 2012 2:52 PM
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Jul 9, 2012 2:53 PM
#4
Because a lot of the ecchi animes focus more on the ecchi then the story or good development. Of course some good ecchi animes exist however a lot of them just kind of throw cliche stories in your face, generic characters, along with boobs. A good ecchi anime can level that out with great development, story and actually make it very tasteful rather then just trying to give you a boner. |
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Jul 9, 2012 2:56 PM
#5
yokaii pretty much said how it is with anime and speaking about manga, less people read it and the ones who actually read it, usually read something that fits their taste hence the bigger ratings, also the bigger ratings are because there are less people that rate and also it's worth mentioning that ecchi manga are usually much bolder than anime Though I I think that most of the ecchi anime are still rated quite high or are in the rating they deserve to be, because the quality of the ecchi in them is bad including boring characters and a pretty much no real storyline |
dfsafsafJul 9, 2012 3:01 PM
Jul 9, 2012 2:56 PM
#6
Some might consider it wrong but I personally rate it better by how good the titage and boobage is. Why? Because IT IS a ecchi series. You watch it specifically for the titage and boobage. This will offend someo people, maybe, but I laugh every time someone says they watch hentai for the plot. Lol... wut? Anyways, for a more reasonable answer, it lacks overall plot/story/character which are main parts of a review, as well as music, animation, etc. A simple math example, music and animation score a 8, but plot and characters get a 3 and a 5. End scored would be a 6 out of 10. Of course though, everyone reviews/rates different. |
Jul 9, 2012 2:57 PM
#7
Girls tend to not be interested in seeing other girls naked, so they become, like, 'I know this is ecchi, but I am going to rate it down anyway, because . . . No reason, just because!' |
Jul 9, 2012 2:58 PM
#8
I love ecchi. It's just that it too often gets coupled with an inane plot or retarded characters, which annoy me greatly. As for the manga counterpart, that's obvious. Manga > anime lol. |
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Jul 9, 2012 2:59 PM
#9
Because most people find the story of ecchi animes boring and bad. However, I'm not really fussed on storylines much. To be honest I can't really tell what makes a bad storyline, because I usually enjoy the animes I watch regardless if it's ecchi or not XD |
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Jul 9, 2012 3:09 PM
#10
If you watch ecchi expecting some deep plot or w/e, then you're doing it wrong. People rate ecchi low because a lot of people watch it despite hating the genre and/or fanservice in general. A lot of people just go in without doing proper research on things and watch anime on a whim. I myself watch it for its intended purpose: fanservice and boobs. I rate them based on how hot the chicks are and how much I like the characters. The plot is just a bonus. If you complain about how there's too much ecchi/fanservice in an ecchi/fanservice anime, then all I can say is why are you watching it in the first place? |
Jul 9, 2012 3:15 PM
#11
Paul said: Some might consider it wrong but I personally rate it better by how good the titage and boobage is. Why? Because IT IS a ecchi series. You watch it specifically for the titage and boobage. This will offend someo people, maybe, but I laugh every time someone says they watch hentai for the plot. Lol... wut? Anyways, for a more reasonable answer, it lacks overall plot/story/character which are main parts of a review, as well as music, animation, etc. A simple math example, music and animation score a 8, but plot and characters get a 3 and a 5. End scored would be a 6 out of 10. Of course though, everyone reviews/rates different. I actually do agree with what you said, since the main point of ecchi is the boobs, panty shots, harems, and stuff like that. I personally don't enjoy ecchi because I like a good story and when I want something perverse I turn to hentai, but I can indeed understand your reasoning. |
Jul 9, 2012 3:27 PM
#12
Seijurou said: Girls tend to not be interested in seeing other girls naked, so they become, like, 'I know this is ecchi, but I am going to rate it down anyway, because . . . No reason, just because!' I guess this is pretty much what I thought, could be wrong tho. |
Jul 9, 2012 3:28 PM
#13
Jul 9, 2012 3:30 PM
#14
Jul 9, 2012 5:30 PM
#15
Paul said: Some might consider it wrong but I personally rate it better by how good the titage and boobage is. Why? Because IT IS a ecchi series. You watch it specifically for the titage and boobage. This will offend someo people, maybe, but I laugh every time someone says they watch hentai for the plot. Lol... wut? Anyways, for a more reasonable answer, it lacks overall plot/story/character which are main parts of a review, as well as music, animation, etc. A simple math example, music and animation score a 8, but plot and characters get a 3 and a 5. End scored would be a 6 out of 10. Of course though, everyone reviews/rates different. very well said. Seijurou said: Girls tend to not be interested in seeing other girls naked, so they become, like, 'I know this is ecchi, but I am going to rate it down anyway, because . . . No reason, just because!' and this.. majority would be girls, yes. because ecchi annoys [most] girls, big time. who would entirely enjoy watching someone suck soma out of another girl's lumps ?? Well, we know exactly who. Other females might not care, but its kind of way too offensive to some. and to boys who massively enjoyed the entirety but rated it low, maybe he doesn't want to be called a big perv. [get real sweety] :P |
Jul 9, 2012 5:37 PM
#16
Which perverted shows are we talking about? It's actually kind of difficult to lump them all together because some that are considered perverted actually have a story line and others... do not. |
Jul 9, 2012 7:51 PM
#17
I agree with most of what's been said. I don't rate ecchi anime/manga any differently than any other anime, personally. I rate on how much I enjoyed it. The two ecchi anime I'm watching this season, Dakara Boku wa H ga Dekinai and Hagure Yuusha no Estetica, both started off strong in my opinion. The girls were appealing, and I liked the premise of each one. Part of the charm of an ecchi anime for me is being able to put yourself in the shoes of the MC and just imagine how ridiculous your life would be if you were him. Obviously, people who can't do that won't be able to enjoy it. That being said, I haven't done it yet, but I would have no problem giving an ecchi anime a 10, if I enjoyed it that much. With manga, I did give B Gata H Kei, Ichigo 100%, and I''s 10s, so it's just a matter of watching more ecchi and finding the ones I like best. It's not my favorite genre (actually, it's my least favorite in both anime and manga according to MALgraph), but I think it can be done very well. |
Jul 9, 2012 7:55 PM
#18
Well, that's because they're mostly mediocre. It's not like any of them deserve to be rated super-high to begin with, and especially all the ecchi stuff that airs each season most people are probably just tired of it now. It's refreshing to see them rated low, honestly. |
Jul 9, 2012 8:18 PM
#19
Ecchi shows try hard to be borderline porn, and to make that happen, they usually have to make up incredible stories just to tie together the various fanservice scenes. In the end, it's just a cocktease with a bad plot, so it's no surprise that they get rated lower on average. |
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Jul 9, 2012 8:26 PM
#20
because 90% of ecchi are shameless wrecks that try to hide bad writing behind fanservice. Theres the rare occasion the a ecchi that actually uses sexual situations to make itself awesome like golden boy do exist though |
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Jul 9, 2012 8:43 PM
#21
Paul said: --I'm not in the least offended. I quite agree. I'm no no way a prude (does anyone use that word anymore?) Occasionally something like Golden Boy comes along, but generally speaking, I find most ecchi silly and boring. I also agree with Yokaii's statement up in post #2 and Anime_Name's post #13. I pretty much avoid full on ecchi but once in a while I'll give one a try. If the premise is interesting and the characters engaging, I'll give it a go. All that said, it would be pretty stupid for me to get all offended by something like Queens Blade. It is what it is and I just wouldn't watch it. More power to those who get a kick out of it. Don't read enough manga to comment on that front. Some might consider it wrong but I personally rate it better by how good the titage and boobage is. Why? Because IT IS a ecchi series. You watch it specifically for the titage and boobage. This will offend someo people, maybe, but I laugh every time someone says they watch hentai for the plot. Lol... wut? Anyways, for a more reasonable answer, it lacks overall plot/story/character which are main parts of a review, as well as music, animation, etc. . . . Now, quit bitchin' about my bishounen ;-) Side note directed at shairin - Not all ecchi ventures into hentai territory. It is just a style of bawdy comedy the Japanese seem to take great delight in the same way the British take delight is some very silly, off the wall comedy. It really is a cultural thing. |
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Jul 9, 2012 9:35 PM
#22
Paul said: Some might consider it wrong but I personally rate it better by how good the titage and boobage is. Why? Because IT IS a ecchi series. You watch it specifically for the titage and boobage. This will offend someo people, maybe, but I laugh every time someone says they watch hentai for the plot. Lol... wut? Anyways, for a more reasonable answer, it lacks overall plot/story/character which are main parts of a review, as well as music, animation, etc. A simple math example, music and animation score a 8, but plot and characters get a 3 and a 5. End scored would be a 6 out of 10. Of course though, everyone reviews/rates different. Urotsukidoji and kite are hentai people watch for plot. Dont know about kite but Urotsukidoji is epic! |
Jul 9, 2012 9:39 PM
#23
The reason ecchi anime seem to be getting a bad reputation, especially now, is because of a growing trend among the directors to censor the very fanservice we expected. Now it becomes a case of what the Hell am I supposed to be looking at? |
Jul 9, 2012 9:43 PM
#24
The plot is usually weak but i think seeing tits makes up for it. So i usually rate ecchi anime pretty high. |
Jul 10, 2012 4:00 AM
#25
People who hated ecchi are actually are just as childish as people who hated popular shounen shows. "Better rated it as 1 before dropping this filth" mentality. Edit: This seinen gem was ignored due to lack of "ecchi-nes". |
Joyce_SteeleJul 10, 2012 4:04 AM
Jul 10, 2012 4:03 AM
#26
Because not everyone watches ecchi purely for the ecchi. Some expect more than that. Also, most characters in ecchi are damn generic and it's easy for people to complain that the fanservice is inadequate or excessive so it's hard to get the 'right' amount. |
Jul 10, 2012 5:28 AM
#27
yokaii said: Because people who don't actually like ecchi watch it in hopes of it turning into something better. Then they're disappointed by the amount of tits thrown in their face and the plot, in my experience, seems to always be lacking. It's also pretty hard to take a show seriously when it's just panty shots and boobs. I agree. My way of thinking is, the closer you get to hentai the worst it'll get. There are a lot of ecchi series that don't show nudity and those seem to be really good. However the more boobs that you see, the less appealing the story line gets. The worst ecchi I've ever watched is, [http://myanimelist.net/anime/6500/Seikon_no_Qwaser] Seikon no Qwaser. On the other hand, there are some really good ecchi animes out there. |
Jul 10, 2012 5:37 AM
#29
They either rate it low because they didn't enjoy it, or they use another rating system(story, characters.. etc..). I myself rate anime based on how much I enjoyed them, even if there is no plot(strike witches). That aside, there are ecchi anime with great stories, like kodomo no Jikan, |
Jul 10, 2012 6:37 AM
#30
There is no plot, character development from ep 1 to last ep in those shows. |
Jul 10, 2012 7:28 AM
#31
Jul 10, 2012 7:34 AM
#32
Jesper3 said: There is no plot, character development from ep 1 to last ep in those shows. Forgive me if I offended you(and other people who had same way of thinking like him) but I don't watch Yosuga no Sora for sex, nudity and incest. I watch it for characters(see Nao is a good girl and Akira is a sympathetic character) and plot(s). Yes, laugh at me if youi want to but if you do, you're no better than any childish people who hates popular shounen shows because their popularity. |
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Jul 10, 2012 8:29 AM
#33
Most ecchi anime is crap, so I guess that's the reason. But there are also good ones, like strike witches. I liked the characters, their interactions and development. It had a rather unique idea and the fights also tended to be epic. The ecchi part of it was also good, but many of the better elements got kinda buried under those tits and pantyshots. There was a full episode dedicated to fanservice, too.. |
Jul 10, 2012 8:31 AM
#34
-z- said: Most ecchi anime is crap, so I guess that's the reason. But there are also good ones, like strike witches. I liked the characters, their interactions and development. It had a rather unique idea and the fights also tended to be epic. The ecchi part of it was also good, but many of the better elements got kinda buried under those tits and pantyshots. There was a full episode dedicated to fanservice, too.. 2 episodes* Episode 7 of both seasons. |
Jul 10, 2012 8:34 AM
#35
Um, I don't know about echhi's discrimination within anime and manga, but ecchi, as a whole, gets low rating from my side because of my dislike to unnecessary cleavage and panty shots here and there in the episode; if an anime is meant to be ecchi, like B Gata H Kei, it is fine for the same but if the anime doesn't require the aspect at all, it's pathetic to even consider rating it high. |
Jul 10, 2012 8:37 AM
#36
I dunno, most ecchi's I've seen replace story with boobs. ): As far as higher rated manga to anime, I couldn't say. Maybe less people read the manga, and those who do are looking for that kind of thing? |
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Jul 10, 2012 8:39 AM
#37
It's a bad genre. You wouldn't expect erotica to be as highly rated as Shakespeare would you? |
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Jul 10, 2012 8:51 AM
#39
Post-Josh said: --LoL True. Shakespeare it's not. But it isn't a "bad genre." It is one you don't relate to. I don't either but it isn't bad because I don't like it.It's a bad genre. You wouldn't expect erotica to be as highly rated as Shakespeare would you? NK_500 said: --I liked Yosuga no Sora and found that the sexual situations added to the whole of the show. It's the random, silly stuff that leaves me cold.Jesper3 said: There is no plot, character development from ep 1 to last ep in those shows. Forgive me if I offended you(and other people who had same way of thinking like him) but I don't watch Yosuga no Sora for sex, nudity and incest. I watch it for characters(see Nao is a good girl and Akira is a sympathetic character) and plot(s). Yes, laugh at me if youi want to but if you do, you're no better than any childish people who hates popular shounen shows because their popularity. |
lisnoireJul 10, 2012 8:55 AM
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Jul 10, 2012 8:57 AM
#40
Probably because some people watch ecchi, not wanting ecchi. I know it's pretty weird, it's like watching comedy and complaining that the show made you laugh. |
Z-flameJul 10, 2012 9:02 AM
Jul 10, 2012 9:06 AM
#41
Because people actually go into ecchi expecting a fantastic plot and overwhelming character growth and not an over abundance of boobs or panty shots. Which seems pretty ridiculous considering they walked into the show with the genre ECCHI. Or you have the people who have seen their fair share of ecchi and after awhile the fanservice becomes a bit of a bore considering so many ecchi (at least the ones I've come across) are more or less the same thing over and over. |
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Jul 10, 2012 9:20 AM
#42
Because people like you generalize about the ecchi genre. First of all what do you even class as ecchi? Everyone seems dead certain that boobs and panty shots make an ecchi anime. But in this day and age most animes will have ecchi it even if it is not labled "ecchi". In the genre itself there are varied types of ecchi anime. Most people see one over blown ecchi anime and think every other ecchi anime is the same so they berate anything in the genre. Are you going to tell me that animes like Golden Boy, Ichigo 100%, IS, Bake/Nise etc arent top rated animes because they are ecchi? It isnt clear cut to say ecchi is rated lower than other genres especially when ecchi is shoved in your face in just about every anime you watch yet people wont accept they are watching or enjoying it. Of course it's all down to personal likes. I for one cant stand most of the over the top pointless ecchi stuff like Highschool of the Dead, Kankon etc But I do understand that there are people who enjoy senseless nudity. It really comes down to target audience. We all know how the japanese love their fan service/ecchi so it really comes down to whether people outside of the japanese norm can see entertainment in ecchi or not. Because you are not anime companies target audience whether you rate ecchi as bad or good will not change anything. Hence why we always get atleast 3 ecchi animes a season. It's about prospective and personal opinion. |
Jul 10, 2012 9:31 AM
#43
Well, I have tried quite a few Ecchi series(Highschool DxD, Do Love me Seriuosly!? & some others) Among the best of them being Highschool of the Dead, because it had action, a meh plot, & meh characters. All the other ones I watched had absurd amounts it is not even funny. I also try to watch them for comedy, but they're hardly funny also. Stuff like Elfen Lied, Dusk Maiden, & some others I wouldn't file under Ecchi at all since that is not the main focus. |
Jul 10, 2012 9:35 AM
#44
hmm i don't mind ecchi... but when it's just nothing else then blimpboobs it will just get dropped so yeah depends |
Jul 10, 2012 9:41 AM
#45
lisnoire said: Post-Josh said: --LoL True. Shakespeare it's not. But it isn't a "bad genre." It is one you don't relate to. I don't either but it isn't bad because I don't like it.It's a bad genre. You wouldn't expect erotica to be as highly rated as Shakespeare would you? I've only actually seen a few shows with the ecchi label, so I'm basing this on a fair amount of assumptions. I just think the genre combined with anime's general viewing demographic is a bad mix. It's sort of like slice of life moe, where it doesn't take effort to sell, so there's no incentive to put effort in. Don't know why people think expecting character development or a plot is the wrong approach. Where in "dealing with sexuality or erotic events" does it say "will have no elements of a good story whatsoever"? |
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Jul 10, 2012 9:46 AM
#46
watch kanokon... to know why ecchi anime are badly rated. well not all ecchi anime are stupid... kore wa zombie desuka and HOTD are good anime with ecchi scenes... but something like kanokon deserves to be badly rated. |
Jul 10, 2012 9:50 AM
#47
I don't compare plots of different genres, say, sci-fi and ecchi. I try my best to rank my stuff based on other anime of the same, "major" genre. Battle-Shonen > Battle-Shonen Comedy > Comedy Harem > Harem One cannot expect a harem,ecchi,comedy plot or character depth to psychological,drama,mystery anime |
Jul 10, 2012 9:55 AM
#48
yeah tits whoo this turns me on i try my hardest to avoid fanservice cause it annoys the crap out of me though its also a selling point so i'm not really going to comment further on the topic of ecchi anime if i wanted to watch porn i'd watch porn not anime porn (talking pure ecchi anime) I really don't see the point of having something like that though if its just some added ecchi (sankarea?) i'll treat it as fanservice, say it gives me a bad taste and leave it at that |
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Jul 10, 2012 10:14 AM
#50
Personally idm ecchi shows though iv not seen many anyways, but I think they show boobs n ass at unnecessary times to often... I think if they focused on the story and made it good then throw in some shots of boobs or w.e when appropriate then it wouldn't be as bad however the excessive amount of nudity is what ruins it because it becomes repetitive. |
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