Attack on Titan
| The only negativity I’ve seen is by some concern-trolls around here. Almost everyone around the internet is happy with the animation displayed by this trailer. |
deg said: True, but why sing doomsday scenarios already from just looking at the PV?no matter what you say animation carries an anime popularity just look at other action shows like One Punch Man and Demon Slayer no Arifumi Imai as the main action animator is concerning too and before you say well he is a free lancer anyway so he can comeback yes he can but for only few sakuga cuts at most instead when he is the main ace animator the character designs being like from Banana Fish anime concerns people too but i personally like the director of photography staff here since im a sucker for those ufotable instragram kind of coloring effects Wait for a couple of episodes at the very least. It's the logical thing to do. |
| Imo based on the PV it looks like a bit of a downgrade. Not a massive downgrade but still a downgrade. |
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| Hmm, I don't know if I've 'lost hope' per say, but as a big fan of WIT Studio's works I am disappointed. There may have been a quality drop from S1 to S3 (I didn't really notice), but I'd still take WIT Studio's rendition over MAPPA's. Of course, AoT's strong points don't lie solely on animation, but you can't discredit the fact that AoT was pretty amazing because of it. I'll have to agree on this one. Banana Fish is a wonderfully adapted work by MAPPA and their style perfectly suited Banana Fish. I don't think it works well with AoT but I'm eager to be proved wrong. |
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1Kyo said: The odds for AoT's final season to turn out as good as the previous seasons are factually low, therefore it is wiser to not cling to the hope of success and have it come as a pleasant surprise (should it actually happen). Your ToG example is a perfect analogy. I didn't even bother watching it because I was under the impression that it would be a flop. I'm not too positive about GOHS either. I love this way of thinking about it, thank you for putting it into words. I completely agree and makes me feel better about being pessimistic upon hearing the news. Hope for the best, plan for the worst. That's how I usually go about it. |
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| A lot of people are mixing up animation with art style difference, the animation looks smooth as fuck, the levi scene in the forest looks like what Imai would do, if its not him goddam it looks good. And for the person saying it looks like banana fist, all I'm going to say is that Mappa actually made this season look identical to the manga art style what you are witnessing is how the character should have looked in season 1, wit simple change the art style, which I personally didn't have a problem with. Not to mention, I don't think this is a spoiler since its pretty obvious but there is a time skip which is also why the character design look so different, you can't really compare it when the character designs have made a massive change because of the time skip which is probably why its the best time to change the studio if there was a time. @deg Honestly I get the impression as if you want attack on titan final season to be the next one punch man season 2 based off what I have seen. You have been very pessimistic about this, but I have watch a ton of reactions and seen how the key visual on anime reddit upvote of the key visual is at 17k it seems the majority of fans love what they are seeing. |
deg said: @keragamming lol you misunderstood my posts then and sorry since my english skills is bad anyway and because of my mental health im not good at articulating and heck some people say that the way i word things seems offensive to them already too so im not gonna blame you for thinking that um.... its ok I didn't know that. Its just that I want this to succeed so badly! |
| I'm pretty sure that trailer is pre-made, so I don't see any reason for people to get mad before actually watching the series. |
Saray said: @1Kyo Preach! @Bhaskar_Singh I agree. You brought up a good point that I haven't seen anyone else discuss. Good eye. aisakafuyumi said: AoT's strong points don't lie solely on animation, but you can't discredit the fact that AoT was pretty amazing because of it. I'll have to agree on this one. Banana Fish is a wonderfully adapted work by MAPPA and their style perfectly suited Banana Fish. I don't think it works well with AoT but I'm eager to be proved wrong. Yes, yes and yes. Saray said: @1Kyo Preach! @Bhaskar_Singh I agree. You brought up a good point that I haven't seen anyone else discuss. Good eye. aisakafuyumi said: AoT's strong points don't lie solely on animation, but you can't discredit the fact that AoT was pretty amazing because of it. I'll have to agree on this one. Banana Fish is a wonderfully adapted work by MAPPA and their style perfectly suited Banana Fish. I don't think it works well with AoT but I'm eager to be proved wrong. Yes, yes and yes. yeah, i understand why lot of people are criticizing the teaser. they are like" this is shit.. im out..". i dont blame them. not every one is veteran in animation and art department neither am i. i just have a little experience. i mean i can tell why the teaser is not visually appealing as the previous seasons. A lot of people who are not into anime also watch this show. They are not gonna get it. I mean just look at these.         Everythings looks clean af. lighting is perfect. Minimal use of smoke and blur even at distant objects. this is what we have been watching for the past years. of course there were bad frames but there were better ones than these too. and dont forget we are comparing to the teaser of final season of the show which is meant for promoting the show show and should have some peak quality visuals we will be getting in the show and also how how much they have spoiled in it. watch these. some frames from teasers. all are at 1080p.               These are in no way bad, but it is a significant downgrade from what we have seen. Criticism is understandable. |
Bhaskar_SinghMay 30, 2020 4:29 AM
| Subjectivity is a joke on MAL. If you implicitly bring in subjectivity in your counter argument, you've already lost the debate. Also this website is a fankid infestation , have pity on those kids by ignoring there quotes as they have absolutely no clue what exactly is going on. |
Bhaskar_Singh said: yeah, i understand why lot of people are criticizing the teaser. they are like" this is shit.. im out..". i dont blame them. not every one is veteran in animation and art department neither am i. i just have a little experience. i mean i can tell why the teaser is not visually appealing as the previous seasons. A lot of people who are not into anime also watch this show. They are not gonna get it. I mean just look at these. Everythings looks clean af. lighting is perfect. Minimal use of smoke and blur even at distant objects. this is what we have been watching for the past years. of course there were bad frames but there were better ones than these too. and dont forget we are comparing to the teaser of final season of the show which is meant for promoting the show show and should have some peak quality visuals we will be getting in the show and also how how much they have spoiled in it. watch these. some frames from teasers. all are at 1080p. These are in no way bad, but it is a significant downgrade from what we have seen. Criticism is understandable. Very very true. I was also amazed at how beautiful the sky looked and the clouds moving in the background in season 3. It's a simple thing but it makes such a big difference. angelk99 said: This was a pre-animated trailer. That usually means the season itself will be worse. That's the real problem. Oh god let's hope not. |
HeadsUpPlease said: KitCa19 said: I don’t really get why people are saying they’ve lost hope just cause the overall animation may not be exceptional because of staff change. While the show’s animation has always been above average, it was only season 1 where the animation actually carried a huge chunk of the show’s quality. Yes, season 2 and 3’s animation was never trash or even just Average. They just weren’t sakugafests like season 1 was. But they still provided some really good to downright amazing Sakuga such as Levi escaping the mp. But season 3 part 2 (the show’s most acclaimed season) honestly didn’t have through-the-roof animation aside from the Levi vs Beast Titan fight. In fact, I distinctly remember people complaining about the CG colossal titan and the underwhelming Eren vs. Reiner rematch fight. The animation overall of s3p2 was very good but it wasn’t its claim to fame. It was its story and directing that really put it over the top (and of course, GodWano’s soundtrack). I guess what I’m saying is people are complaining too much about animation when that’s not what made AoT go from a great show to a masterpiece. Yes, I’m aware that the director changed. But I trust the new one to execute (he directed Dorohedoro which I adored). Especially since he and the staff have been in touch with the previous director and staff members in regards to the final season. And with the excellent source material and the return of the previous script writer and Sawano to boot, it’d take some Seven Deadly Sins level of animation to ruin the upcoming season imo. And I don’t think Mappa’s gonna allow that. I’m not saying that season 4 is guaranteed to reach the expectations set when season 3 ended, but there’s too little reason to just downright say that season 4 is gonna be a dud just cause staff changed. I just wanna say that you took the words out of my mouth. People talk waaaay too much about animation while ignoring the fact that it's not only that, that made them like the series. It was mostly great story and Araki's amazing directing (rip). What else we can talk about at this point when we don't know how the team will perform? Plus, you just said yourself the director is changed. Honestly I agree with you to some extent and would be perfectly fine with everything if the director and key members was the same but it is not the case here. We have no idea if the tone and atmosphere will be preserved and it seems it won't from the looks of PV. Also whole studio transition process at the last moment is a ton of work and I don't think they had enough time to handle it well. Good wishes from Araki and few key notes won't cut it. |
| @Bhaskar_Singh Wow, that really hurts when you see the comparison. Normally I do not care much about animation, but for a show like SnK... Now I realize how fantastic were the art and animation in the first seasons. |
Bhaskar_Singh said: Saray said: @1Kyo Preach! @Bhaskar_Singh I agree. You brought up a good point that I haven't seen anyone else discuss. Good eye. Yes, yes and yes. Saray said: @1Kyo Preach! @Bhaskar_Singh I agree. You brought up a good point that I haven't seen anyone else discuss. Good eye. Yes, yes and yes. yeah, i understand why lot of people are criticizing the teaser. they are like" this is shit.. im out..". i dont blame them. not every one is veteran in animation and art department neither am i. i just have a little experience. i mean i can tell why the teaser is not visually appealing as the previous seasons. A lot of people who are not into anime also watch this show. They are not gonna get it. I mean just look at these. Everythings looks clean af. lighting is perfect. Minimal use of smoke and blur even at distant objects. this is what we have been watching for the past years. of course there were bad frames but there were better ones than these too. and dont forget we are comparing to the teaser of final season of the show which is meant for promoting the show show and should have some peak quality visuals we will be getting in the show and also how how much they have spoiled in it. watch these. some frames from teasers. all are at 1080p. These are in no way bad, but it is a significant downgrade from what we have seen. Criticism is understandable. All of this is nothing but nitpicking. MAPPA has done an incredible job. Not a downgrade but a big upgrade by switching to awesome manga art style. Also it makes no sense to compare something that is in production to something that is a fully completed product. |
| I think that "too" is redundant when used with "overreaction" |
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| Personally I dont have problem with animation but with plot shown in trailer, the only thing I saw was boring boom boom everywhere from guns/bombs, no typical sword killings with 3D gear (that are for me more typical in SnK than anything else) and only 1 close combat (titan vs titan) of course it was only trailer but trailer usually showing main type of stuff in anime. I don't know what will happen in plot next (didn't read source because I preffer anime) but if it will be mostly about "modern weapon war" with few titan vs titan fights then it will be bad season for me. |
hiraishinxMay 30, 2020 11:03 AM
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