| I'll be getting Shield and picking Sobble, love that lil lizard baby |
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| I've preordered the shield version of the game. I'm not sure about my starter though, probably scorbunny if he doesn't end up with fire/fighting type or a 180 when it comes to cuteness like litten |
| I bought Switch for new Pokemon games so yeah. Still undecided on which version to get. Maybe I'll buy both. Gotta Catch 'Em All! |
| Pre Ordered Shield and I'm also Grookey Gang |
| I want this game, but I don't get why there is still a need to release two basically identical game at the same times. You could just buy one cartridge and let you choose the version of the game you want to play like it does happen in every other game offering a choice like that. These silly business tactics need to stop one day. |
fNeL said: According to the leaks a lot of pokemon cannot be imported. Was kind of disappointed when I saw this. ...Wow. Wasn't even looking forward to the game myself as Pokémon Moon was mediocre (so I guess that's the last main-series Pokémon game I'll ever play), but just... wow. Pretty saddening. A bit amusing in the wrong way that the Charmander line is the only past-starter returning. |
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| I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a videogame, the wait has been excruciating! I haven't played a mainline Pokemon game since Pearl over a decade ago back when I was in Middle School. It really bothers me all these entitled toxic man children bitching about the limited Pokedex talking endless shit about the game. Spend like five minutes on the Pokemon subreddit and you'll want to shoot yourself. I hope this game does even better than the last few generations just as a giant middle finger to all those pricks. Frankly I was really happy to find out that they limited the amount of Pokemon, I'd like to try getting into competitive and it gives new people (not transferring anything) like me a chance to catch up (even if a lot of my old favorites aren't there) plus it's better for the competitive meta game (almost 1000 different choices is way too many for team crafting). I really can't wait to play the game! |
| -Series continues to get dumbed down with each generation -EXP sharing required -No difficulty slider -Giant Pokemon gimmick is terrible -Over 50% of pokedex cut -Recycled 3DS animations -Gamecube level graphics and environments have terrible rendering despite moving to more "powerful" hardware -Rehashed formula continues. Nothing innovative presented at all. -$60 Hard pass. Haven't played since B/W. This lazy pile of garbage def will not get me back into the series. |
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| I'm gonna get Sword or maybe even both. Team Sobble all the way. I admit my faith was utterly destroyed when Intellion was first leaked, but seeing the art of him using Yusuke's spirit gun pose won me back. |
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| Without full Dex, I won't be getting it, as no full Dex in a mainline Pokémon game is an absolute dealbreaker for me, no matter what excuse they may have for the cuts. If they ever patch in the full Dex in a free update, I'll gladly buy one of the games. But having looked at the leaked new Pokémon designs, it looks like I won't be missing out on much. Oof at all 3 of the evolved starters. Oof at like 80% of that new roster. This might overtake gen 4 for me as worst new Pokémon roster. |
| Gonna play it on emulator, not gonna buy the game either way. I am from team sobble tho. |
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| No, I have been horribly disappointed with almost everything they have showcased in this gen and am certainly not going to pay more just because it's no longer a handheld game while offering less at the same time. |
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| Having a dumbed down list of available Pokemon is bad enough, but this is probably the last straw for me: Someone I know took these screenshots from an early access stream. I hope the finished product doesn't actually look like this or that's a huge bummer. |
SkittlesNov 11, 2019 12:27 PM
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| I feel your pain Though this has been the Nintendo mantra for a while now. Less effort for the same or even more money.. Where we used to get cool characters and a well written story in Paper Mario.. we are now subject to sticker star clones.. Where we got unique boards and fun mini-games in Mario Party.. we are now subject to 4 boards and mini-games gated by a terrible controller scheme.. Could say the same for Kirby and many others... Pokemon is no exception. I'm sure people have dreamed of a Pokemon MMO with the pvp experience while playing the game. Or something huge on a grand scale that looks like Gales of Darkness but plays like a typical journey. A game with a difficulty option..so we don't have to artificially create a challenge for ourselves.. A game with Pokemon Revolution/Stadium animations that makes the battles feel real.. Heck maybe you walk around.. see a pokemon and just battle it straight from there seamlessly with no separate stage (lets go was a decent start) But we won't see it. Gamefreak knows they will bare minimum sell 8m+ with each game. They don't have to pull out all the stops and put in effort.. I know your pain. Even though Paper Mario doesn't sell as well with the new games.. we won't see a return to the roots. For people that like it the new stuff thats great.. but it's just sad knowing we could be getting so much more.. Hell we are in 2019 and Blastoise still can't shoot from his cannons.. Oh wait a second he won't be in the game now.. will he? And tbh it really isn't that hard to just scale up the levels for difficulty.. I'm not even asking them to go in and improve movesets or the AI.. I was thinking about maybe giving the series another shot but when I saw a youtube video of a Machoke literally just popping up from the ground.. I just laughed.. I'm thinking that Machoke can't be out there lifting boulders.. or appearing in a way that makes more sense..? |
JFujiNov 11, 2019 6:54 PM
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Skittles said: Having a dumbed down list of available Pokemon is bad enough, but this is probably the last straw for me: Someone I know took these screenshots from an early access stream. I hope the finished product doesn't actually look like this or that's a huge bummer. Lol, I watched parts of the stream and I take back what I posted earlier in this thread. This game is a new low, even by GameFreak standards. They're going to have to do a whole lot better than this, and that's not even including the lack of a full Dex. Pokémon is dead to me with the introduction of this gen. It already sort of died for me with US/UM and LGP/E, but there's no coming back from this one, unless they do major changes to the way they develop future games (not gonna happen). ShonenChoco said: I've no idea how you can be a Pokemon fan and not get excited when you see the screenshots of that new arena, and think about all the tournaments everyone will enjoy participating in and all the new Pokemon that are there, seeing that world come to life in a whole new way... Real fans demand a quality experience because they care. It's okay if you don't care what you get as long as it has the Pokémon logo on the box, but it doesn't make you a fan of the series. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
MonkeyDHunterNov 21, 2019 10:19 AM
Kyotosomo said: I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a videogame, the wait has been excruciating! I haven't played a mainline Pokemon game since Pearl over a decade ago back when I was in Middle School. It really bothers me all these entitled toxic man children bitching about the limited Pokedex talking endless shit about the game. Spend like five minutes on the Pokemon subreddit and you'll want to shoot yourself. I hope this game does even better than the last few generations just as a giant middle finger to all those pricks. Frankly I was really happy to find out that they limited the amount of Pokemon, I'd like to try getting into competitive and it gives new people (not transferring anything) like me a chance to catch up (even if a lot of my old favorites aren't there) plus it's better for the competitive meta game (almost 1000 different choices is way too many for team crafting). I really can't wait to play the game! The problem is not that the Pokemon got cut but rather that the things that have been promised don't seem to be in it. The animations don't seem to be much better and quite a lot of content doesn't seem to be there. I will get the game tomorrow and see it myyself if I am able to enjoy it. |
| Getting the game digitally sword that is and if anyone wanna trade to get all three starters just message me. I really want to start off with all three starters. |
| Getting Shield mostly for Appletun. |
| Got both games today but will play tomorrow. I guess I will start with Shield and pick Scorbunny since I've already got a perfect name for it. |
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| Only way I'm gonna get either one is if the Switch Lite drops in price big time, and even then, I doubt if I'd even bother. On the hypothetical side that I did get one, it'd probably be Sword and my starter would be Scorbunny or Sobble, don't really like the design of Grookey. |
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Kyotosomo said: I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a videogame, the wait has been excruciating! I haven't played a mainline Pokemon game since Pearl over a decade ago back when I was in Middle School. It really bothers me all these entitled toxic man children bitching about the limited Pokedex talking endless shit about the game. Spend like five minutes on the Pokemon subreddit and you'll want to shoot yourself. I hope this game does even better than the last few generations just as a giant middle finger to all those pricks. Frankly I was really happy to find out that they limited the amount of Pokemon, I'd like to try getting into competitive and it gives new people (not transferring anything) like me a chance to catch up (even if a lot of my old favorites aren't there) plus it's better for the competitive meta game (almost 1000 different choices is way too many for team crafting). I really can't wait to play the game! It's clear that you don't even understand whats happening with the games. You really think the people are just mad because of the limited pokedex? You're wrong. People are mad because developers LIED, multiple times about this game. The main reason they're cutting the dex was to improve the animation and models of the games. What did they do? RECYCLE ALL OF THE 3DS animation. Not only recycle but not improve A SINGLE DAMN THING about animations. There's no justification of this, there's no way to accept this kind of butchered game with little to NO improvement of the gameplay, specially considering that N64 Pokemon Stadium had MORE animation back them than what they're animating now. Animations are just the bigger scale of the problem, there are multiple problems about the game that I won't even bother to explain because i bet you will continue to support this disaster of game. You hope this sells better than previous games? Oh of course, so you're actually supporting their laziness and greediness? Haha. So you're supporting the downgrade of the franchise. I bet you would also support Bethesda killing Fallout series. Because this is actually what's happening here. Producers lying and selling you a copy paste game with bad dynamics that don't improve the game at all. I'm sorry that you're satisfied with low standards. But that doesn't mean others have to aim for low. Specially if they're actual fans of the franchise. |
| Just skimmed through an hour playthrough of this game. Game literally can't stop holding your hand and playing the game for you. You literally aren't even trusted to walk down a straight path without being guided. Actually was vomit inducing watching a guy catch a single pokemon and see his entire party go up a level. I mean.. great for kids who lose interest easy I guess..? |
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Veromaye said: Kyotosomo said: I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a videogame, the wait has been excruciating! I haven't played a mainline Pokemon game since Pearl over a decade ago back when I was in Middle School. It really bothers me all these entitled toxic man children bitching about the limited Pokedex talking endless shit about the game. Spend like five minutes on the Pokemon subreddit and you'll want to shoot yourself. I hope this game does even better than the last few generations just as a giant middle finger to all those pricks. Frankly I was really happy to find out that they limited the amount of Pokemon, I'd like to try getting into competitive and it gives new people (not transferring anything) like me a chance to catch up (even if a lot of my old favorites aren't there) plus it's better for the competitive meta game (almost 1000 different choices is way too many for team crafting). I really can't wait to play the game! It's clear that you don't even understand whats happening with the games. You really think the people are just mad because of the limited pokedex? You're wrong. People are mad because developers LIED, multiple times about this game. The main reason they're cutting the dex was to improve the animation and models of the games. What did they do? RECYCLE ALL OF THE 3DS animation. Not only recycle but not improve A SINGLE DAMN THING about animations. There's no justification of this, there's no way to accept this kind of butchered game with little to NO improvement of the gameplay, specially considering that N64 Pokemon Stadium had MORE animation back them than what they're animating now. Animations are just the bigger scale of the problem, there are multiple problems about the game that I won't even bother to explain because i bet you will continue to support this disaster of game. You hope this sells better than previous games? Oh of course, so you're actually supporting their laziness and greediness? Haha. So you're supporting the downgrade of the franchise. I bet you would also support Bethesda killing Fallout series. Because this is actually what's happening here. Producers lying and selling you a copy paste game with bad dynamics that don't improve the game at all. I'm sorry that you're satisfied with low standards. But that doesn't mean others have to aim for low. Specially if they're actual fans of the franchise. Lol you have NO CLUE what you're talking about haha all you naysayers are just butthurt you didn't get your way and that GameFreak is going to sell millions of copies of these games in spite of all that bitching. Just finished the game and it's totally fun, great to see GameFreak is able to slap all of you across the face with its giant corporate cock. Can't wait for Pokemon Gun or the Sinnoh remakes or whatever comes next :) |
Kyotosomo said: Veromaye said: It's clear that you don't even understand whats happening with the games. You really think the people are just mad because of the limited pokedex? You're wrong. People are mad because developers LIED, multiple times about this game. The main reason they're cutting the dex was to improve the animation and models of the games. What did they do? RECYCLE ALL OF THE 3DS animation. Not only recycle but not improve A SINGLE DAMN THING about animations. There's no justification of this, there's no way to accept this kind of butchered game with little to NO improvement of the gameplay, specially considering that N64 Pokemon Stadium had MORE animation back them than what they're animating now. Animations are just the bigger scale of the problem, there are multiple problems about the game that I won't even bother to explain because i bet you will continue to support this disaster of game. You hope this sells better than previous games? Oh of course, so you're actually supporting their laziness and greediness? Haha. So you're supporting the downgrade of the franchise. I bet you would also support Bethesda killing Fallout series. Because this is actually what's happening here. Producers lying and selling you a copy paste game with bad dynamics that don't improve the game at all. I'm sorry that you're satisfied with low standards. But that doesn't mean others have to aim for low. Specially if they're actual fans of the franchise. Lol you have NO CLUE what you're talking about haha all you naysayers are just butthurt you didn't get your way and that GameFreak is going to sell millions of copies of these games in spite of all that bitching. Just finished the game and it's totally fun, great to see GameFreak is able to slap all of you across the face with its giant corporate cock. Can't wait for Pokemon Gun or the Sinnoh remakes or whatever comes next :) How is it difficulty wise? I'm interested in getting this. Is there much to do post game? |
| Exp share can't be turned off..this annoyed me the most. Edit: Just learned that Zamazenta can't learn Body Press..what a joke. I got both versions of the game and to me it seems like Zamazenta really got the short end of the stick. I think it's better design wise tho. |
tsubasa_Nov 19, 2019 7:04 PM
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| @SpamuraiSensei If you nuzlocke it the game is PLENTY difficult (I can't even imagine doing that without the exp share). But even if you don't nuzlocke it, the difficulty is surprisingly balanced (considering this is a kids game). Over a decade ago back when I played Pokemon (first four generations) you could just breeze through the entire game with only your starter. In this game you are actually forced to use your entire team and will have some battles where most of them feint; you may even lose a couple times to one of the first three gym leaders (whatever one your starter is weak to) since you've yet to build up a proper team. It's not a hard game if you don't nuzlocke it, but it's certainly harder than any other Pokemon game I've played that's for sure as well as because of said difficult actually gets you to connect with your Pokemon as if you're actually going on a real Pokemon journey. In a normal casual playthrough I spent over 30 hours (having fun the entire time). That's well worth the $60 to me (although to be fair in regards to my play time I also caught every new Pokemon I ran into and spent a decent amount of time in the wild area, I caught 40% of the Pokemon by the time I beat the game). Post game story is non-existent it's just a boring fetch quest only lasting a few hours (which is quite the contrast to the main campaign which was actually pretty hype, the league/tournament setting was a really smart decision on GameFreak's part, I'd prefer they keep on doing it rather than the usual beat eight gym leaders, beat evil team, beat elite four). There's battle tower which I'm doing right now (definitely not targeted at kids, but can still probably be beaten in four to six hours). I still need to obtain like a third of the Pokemon so that'll take a while (this will also include many raid battles which are nice). Plus there's tens and tens of hours one can spend playing online competitive which is what I was looking forward to doing for the first time when I bought the game (didn't realize the main game would be this long and fun). Plus there's a few other post game things to do on the side too (like I'm currently working on quickly completing the entire Curry Dex lol). Frankly other than a better and longer post game mission or several of them, I don't know what they could even do to further improve the post game. They actually made a lot of improvements to making raising the perfect Pokemon to build different competitive teams a lot easier, but it's still a bit too grindy for my personal tastes (I'm new to the whole EV/IV/Nature/Ability/EggMove breeding thing). |
| @Kyotosomo Are you sure you don't work for Nintendo? Because you convinced me to buy it. XD |
| Not gonna lie, the new Pokemon designs are so fucking good. Definitely one of the best generations in that regard. That being said, where the fuuuuuuuuuuck is GTS gamefreak you clowns |
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SpamuraiSensei said: @Kyotosomo Are you sure you don't work for Nintendo? Because you convinced me to buy it. XD Despite all the hate it's getting from the vocal minority of toxic man babies in the Pokemon community trying to shit on it in any way they can to punish it for the grave sin of not letting them transfer all their Pokemon; it's a genuinely great game (frankly I'm glad they limited the number of Pokemon, it let them balance the game better and help new people like me not start at an overwhelming disadvantage compared to all the long running players). My sister never stopped playing Pokemon (she's played them all) and just told me yesterday that it's her favorite Pokemon game (besides MAYBE Gen III and Gen IV but that's partially due to nostalgia factor). Given this is their first time developing a mainline Pokemon game for consoles, I'm impressed. Now that they've done it before I can't wait to see how they handle whatever the next game is (it's probably gonna be a remake of the Gen IV games). |
Kyotosomo said: SpamuraiSensei said: @Kyotosomo Are you sure you don't work for Nintendo? Because you convinced me to buy it. XD Despite all the hate it's getting from the vocal minority of toxic man babies in the Pokemon community trying to shit on it in any way they can to punish it for the grave sin of not letting them transfer all their Pokemon; it's a genuinely great game (frankly I'm glad they limited the number of Pokemon, it let them balance the game better and help new people like me not start at an overwhelming disadvantage compared to all the long running players). My sister never stopped playing Pokemon (she's played them all) and just told me yesterday that it's her favorite Pokemon game (besides MAYBE Gen III and Gen IV but that's partially due to nostalgia factor). Given this is their first time developing a mainline Pokemon game for consoles, I'm impressed. Now that they've done it before I can't wait to see how they handle whatever the next game is (it's probably gonna be a remake of the Gen IV games). I mean.. I would have liked the option to date the gym leaders Witcher 3 style. (Oh yeah Misty baby!) But I'm not picky. As long as I can grind a bit and capture my Pokemons I'm a happy camper. Haven't played a Pokemon game since the Gameboy Advanced days. Digimon on the PS4 wasn't too bad tho. |
Kyotosomo said: SpamuraiSensei said: @Kyotosomo Are you sure you don't work for Nintendo? Because you convinced me to buy it. XD Despite all the hate it's getting from the vocal minority of toxic man babies in the Pokemon community trying to shit on it in any way they can to punish it for the grave sin of not letting them transfer all their Pokemon; it's a genuinely great game (frankly I'm glad they limited the number of Pokemon, it let them balance the game better and help new people like me not start at an overwhelming disadvantage compared to all the long running players). LMAO.. And people could call you a Nintendrone that laps up anything that daddy Nintendo drops into your food bowl.. Why insult people who criticize the game..? Nobody has said nothing negative about people who don't mind the shortcomings and enjoy the product.. What's next.. going to call them entitled? I bet you know that they are right about everything they've brought up and this is the only way to make you feel better about buying this low effort gamefreak title... There is a lot more issues with the game than just the lack of transferring.. but yeah all these people complaining may not make a difference in sales. Hell, I expect it to sell well because the Switch apart from 2-3 titles has a terrible catalog of games. Basically being an indie machine that plays stuff like Untitled Goose Game.. |
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JFuji said: Kyotosomo said: Despite all the hate it's getting from the vocal minority of toxic man babies in the Pokemon community trying to shit on it in any way they can to punish it for the grave sin of not letting them transfer all their Pokemon; it's a genuinely great game (frankly I'm glad they limited the number of Pokemon, it let them balance the game better and help new people like me not start at an overwhelming disadvantage compared to all the long running players). LMAO.. And people could call you a Nintendrone that laps up anything that daddy Nintendo drops into your food bowl.. Why insult people who criticize the game..? Nobody has said nothing negative about people who don't mind the shortcomings and enjoy the product.. What's next.. going to call them entitled? I bet you know that they are right about everything they've brought up and this is the only way to make you feel better about buying this low effort gamefreak title... There is a lot more issues with the game than just the lack of transferring.. but yeah all these people complaining may not make a difference in sales. Hell, I expect it to sell well because the Switch apart from 2-3 titles has a terrible catalog of games. Basically being an indie machine that plays stuff like Untitled Goose Game.. You completely invalidated anything you said by claiming that the Switch has a terrible catalog lol just about the entire internet would disagree with you. Also pretty hilarious to call me a Nintendrone when I went almost a decade without owning any Nintendo consoles (been a PC player as the Wii U / 3DS didn't offer a good enough reason to get them), I was only brought back this year because the Switch is such an undeniably fantastic console. Also there's nothing wrong with criticizing the game, for example in my post I mentioned how it's pretty silly that after you beat the main story there's virtually no post game story. The issue is these legions ofbitchy little man babies like yourself that just flat out lie and twist shit and criticize the game over the most mundane childish shit like OH MY GOD THIS TREE IS LOW RES THIS GAME IS BORDERLINE UNPLAYABLE DOES GAME FREAK EVEN CARE ANYMORE it's just like dude shut the fuck up and grow up. Most hilarious part is all these people bought the game anyway and have probably sunk like 30 - 60 hours into it already. But hey anybody that likes the game is just a blind GameFreak/Nintendo fan boy right? Grow the hell up lol, I can't wait to see the massive sales numbers flip a giant bird at all these losers. |
JFuji said: Kyotosomo said: Despite all the hate it's getting from the vocal minority of toxic man babies in the Pokemon community trying to shit on it in any way they can to punish it for the grave sin of not letting them transfer all their Pokemon; it's a genuinely great game (frankly I'm glad they limited the number of Pokemon, it let them balance the game better and help new people like me not start at an overwhelming disadvantage compared to all the long running players). LMAO.. And people could call you a Nintendrone that laps up anything that daddy Nintendo drops into your food bowl.. Why insult people who criticize the game..? Nobody has said nothing negative about people who don't mind the shortcomings and enjoy the product.. What's next.. going to call them entitled? I bet you know that they are right about everything they've brought up and this is the only way to make you feel better about buying this low effort gamefreak title... There is a lot more issues with the game than just the lack of transferring.. but yeah all these people complaining may not make a difference in sales. Hell, I expect it to sell well because the Switch apart from 2-3 titles has a terrible catalog of games. Basically being an indie machine that plays stuff like Untitled Goose Game.. Don't even bother with that guy. Just see what he replied to me, unironically he himself admitted to enjoy GF giant corporate cock. He lacks of recognize that GF is putting a small amount of effort on the game. Not to mention that they did lied. I would be defending this game if it wasn't that the same problems that S&S is having, were also since XY. But apparently giving criticism while being worried about how the freaking maingames have sunk pretty deep because devs are lazy, is being "entitled" "butthurt" and "manchild". Imagine you're a consumer of a franchise of food, they sell great food, make great income and gives you the balanced amount of quality considering the price you're paying, but they get a status quo of high amount of customers that would still buy their food even if they start dropping the quality. Some customers realize and investigate they're lying about their products, they're selling cheap stuffs for the same or higher price, customers complain and yet people like this guy dare to say those customers are idiots while he keeps licking their boots. Pretty sad. But lets just let him be. Btw the problem is not Nintendo nor the Switch, is actually GameFreak. |
| as my usual policy with pokemon games waiting for the improved 2nd version. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| Is Pokémon Sword/Shield a bad game? No Is Pokémon Sword/Shield a lazy, unremarkable, rushed job where the devs are incompetent and big, fat liars because they know they can get away with it? Yes. Pokémon will never be good again until GameFreak gets the wake up call they deserve, sadly game already sold 6 million copies because "Consumers gotta consume product then get excited for the next product" like drones, so it's never gonna get better, it peaked at Gen4-5 and after that has been an absolute shitshow and will sadly remain a shitshow until they can no longer get away with it. It's basically the Call of Duty of Nintendo games at this point. Hopefully Digimon blows it out of the way with their new Story game after Cybersleuth/Hacker's Memory, which was better than anything Pokémon has done since the 3DS jump |
GoldenSaltPillarNov 21, 2019 10:47 AM
GoldenSaltPillar said: Is Pokémon Sword/Shield a bad game? No Is Pokémon Sword/Shield a lazy, unremarkable, rushed job where the devs are incompetent and big, fat liars because they know they can get away with it? Yes. Pokémon will never be good again until GameFreak gets the wake up call they deserve, sadly game already sold 6 million copies because "Consumers gotta consume product then get excited for the next product" like drones, so it's never gonna get better, it peaked at Gen4-5 and after that has been an absolute shitshow and will sadly remain a shitshow until they can no longer get away with it. It's basically the Call of Duty of Nintendo games at this point. Hopefully Digimon blows it out of the way with their new Story game after Cybersleuth/Hacker's Memory, which was better than anything Pokémon has done since the 3DS jump Couldn't have said it better myself. |
Again you and the other guy LACK of understand the real problem and just continue the bullshit of not only rejecting criticism but denying the truth while calling other clowns. When they said "I'm going to CUT CONTENT so EVERYTHING ELSE GETS BETTER" And NONE of these gets better, it means they LIED. Not only they LIED but they CUT the content for ABSOLUTE NO REASON more than being apathetic to their work. Is not that people were "Expecting a huge improvement" because of the jump of console or because they had fake expectatives. Is because they EXPLICITLY SAID they were doing it for AN IMPROVEMENT OF ANIMATIONS. And THIS DID NOT HAPPENED. But the game looks EXACTLY the same ( Not really because unironically Lets go Eevee-Pikachu did had backgrounds for all battles ), it's LITERALLY a port of a 3DS game that looks NON pixelated because of SWITCH RESOLUTION. Not even a port, because they cut megas, tons of movements, z-moves, and the game it's pretty much the same but they added higher scaled pokemon. But hey, if you like being lied or more like, cheated in your face like a cuck, that's up to you bro. Doesn't mean everyone has to accept this kind of stuffs.  |
Veromaye said: JFuji said: LMAO.. And people could call you a Nintendrone that laps up anything that daddy Nintendo drops into your food bowl.. Why insult people who criticize the game..? Nobody has said nothing negative about people who don't mind the shortcomings and enjoy the product.. What's next.. going to call them entitled? I bet you know that they are right about everything they've brought up and this is the only way to make you feel better about buying this low effort gamefreak title... There is a lot more issues with the game than just the lack of transferring.. but yeah all these people complaining may not make a difference in sales. Hell, I expect it to sell well because the Switch apart from 2-3 titles has a terrible catalog of games. Basically being an indie machine that plays stuff like Untitled Goose Game.. Don't even bother with that guy. Just see what he replied to me, unironically he himself admitted to enjoy GF giant corporate cock. He lacks of recognize that GF is putting a small amount of effort on the game. Not to mention that they did lied. I would be defending this game if it wasn't that the same problems that S&S is having, were also since XY. But apparently giving criticism while being worried about how the freaking maingames have sunk pretty deep because devs are lazy, is being "entitled" "butthurt" and "manchild". Imagine you're a consumer of a franchise of food, they sell great food, make great income and gives you the balanced amount of quality considering the price you're paying, but they get a status quo of high amount of customers that would still buy their food even if they start dropping the quality. Some customers realize and investigate they're lying about their products, they're selling cheap stuffs for the same or higher price, customers complain and yet people like this guy dare to say those customers are idiots while he keeps licking their boots. Pretty sad. But lets just let him be. Btw the problem is not Nintendo nor the Switch, is actually GameFreak. It's amazing how completely over your head everything I said went, talk about hopeless. But hey feel free to cry some more stewing over your Dexit anger; the game broke the franchise sales records so Gamefreak and the players loving the game are all laughing at you all the way to the bank. Sorry man <3 |
Kyotosomo said: It's amazing how completely over your head everything I said went, talk about hopeless. But hey feel free to cry some more stewing over your Dexit anger; the game broke the franchise sales records so Gamefreak and the players loving the game are all laughing at you all the way to the bank. Sorry man <3 Yeah sadly the games will continue to sell. I never claimed that it would sell bad because it's an incomplete game. I also never said I want to pokemon games to cease. It's you that are blindly angry because people are not okay for what is happening ( again a thing you keep denying that is happening since you're happy gamefreak gives you leftovers of their product ) I could link you to any real source of how GF explicitly says they cut pokedex for smooth - new - better animations, and you still would deny that they lied about this even after watching a pokemon making the exact same animation of Tail Whip that's been used since XY, or more specific, just rotating the pokemon model left to right and that's it. And MANY other attacks that animation were not changed or improved. It's for people like you that the game keeps getting sold with a bare minimum of effort put on it. Because they know the games will sell regardless if they don't work hard to give a proper game. Because they have a status quo of braindead fans who will support the game no matter what they cut from the game. Because it's easier to rush a game to release it yearly for bigger income than taking 3-4 years like other developers do to give a proper game and keep losing money on the process of making it. And I also never claimed that I hate this game or that I hate pokemon. Disappointment doesn't equal to hate, kid. A company doesn't sink because of not selling enough, a company sinks after they only care more about their money rather than the quality of the product they're selling. Even indie producers put more effort on their games than this. But whatever, you will deny this. Like I said before to the other guy. If you're ok about being lied to your own face, that's up to you bro. But that doesn't mean everyone has to accept that. Hope you enjoy your butchered game for 60$ |
VeromayeNov 21, 2019 3:26 PM
| Gentlemen, there is a huge difference between liking a franchise and being blind to it's faults and bad practises. Do I like Pokémon? Yes. Actually, I've played every single main one so far, several times. Do I want it to be as good as possible? Of course Was Sword and Shield as good as it could've been with all those years of work behind it? Not really, NO Were we, the consumers or potential costumers, lied to, when they told us the reasons behind the lack of pokemon was because they were working on high quality animations? YES, yes we were. And that's the point, it's really not that hard to understand why a large (or at least, very vocal) portion of the fanbase is upset. They're passionate fans that have been lied to and have received a subpar product after wasting 60$ on it and while reviews are high (and let's not kid ourselves, ALL publishers have deals to give a high score for hyped products, everyone and their mom knows this by now), user scores on both western and japanese websites are low, and they're low for a reason, because this product coming from the largest media franchise in history is UNNACEPTABLE, and below the standards this franchise could, has shown to, and SHOULD reach. I'm not saying you can't eat this mess up and not enjoy it, even after all the disasters behind it, all the lies, all the producer damage control, is still a Pokémon game, even if mediocre at best in comparison to the stronger, more robust and content heavy entries in the series, you're perfectly in your right, but don't try to silence that right from other people. There is this weird perception on the Internet right now where you, as a customer, complain about the shaky quality of a product and you're called entitled or toxic. NO, that's not being toxic. You already rewarded those developers with your trust, your effort that you put towards in real life to gain that money to pay for this piece of entertainment, you already gave them what they asked for and what the prize they thought was deserving for it, HOW is asking for quality in the product you bought entitlement or "being over your head"? That's just your right as a customer and as a fan of a series you love. I think nobody in this thread really wants Pokémon to go away, but let's not get overly defensive and pretend this isn't an issue just because it doesn't affect you (at least right now). There is a lack of vision, a lack of innovation, a lack of polish, a lack of effort and downright a lack of goodwill behind this game and it shows, and people have a right to shit on it because at the end of the day, Gamefreak betrayed their trust with a subpar product and that's not a subjective opinión, that's an OBJECTIVE FACT, one that has been shown in several videos and sources. |
GoldenSaltPillarNov 21, 2019 3:36 PM
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