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Nov 3, 2019 7:43 AM
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Hello, i see many people that watch anime and put low scores on them. I mean why watch something you know you will not like? You do not watch all movies or TV shows, but chose by genre so why watch anime you probably will not like?

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Nov 3, 2019 7:45 AM
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Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it. One need go through the whole show to see what score is appropriate unless that anime keeps on portraying itself as what it actually is, trash.


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Nov 3, 2019 7:49 AM
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Because if you give everything 10 or 9, it loses all meaning. There's no way Charlotte is as good as Steins Gate but that's what your score says.

Nov 3, 2019 8:00 AM
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Obviously because one was mistaken about liking it. Sometimes the advertisement campaign surrounding it was deceptive.

I've given a very low score to Love Me for What I Am — it was completely not what I expected it to be, and I am not the only one that fell for that; there was a thread about it on 4chan where this was the opinion essentially everyone had. They expected a totally different thing, also based on the author's older work.


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Nov 3, 2019 8:10 AM
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Because you don't just give 9s and 10s to every anime that gives you a good time. Some people are more critical and only gives 9s and especially 10s to those special anime and gives lower scores to meh or avg ones, some even bad, a series sometimes goes bad mid season or close to it ending thus the low score.
Nov 3, 2019 8:16 AM
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To say you enjoy only what is considered anime of "higher standard" is shallow and dishonest. When one can enjoy something despite knowing it is trash, is when one has transcended into a true connoisseur.

I use an expanded system that utilizes the whole scale instead of just half of it, to gives scores more impact.
It is based on some enjoyment and a vague measurement of quality.

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Nov 3, 2019 11:20 AM
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I can't understand those kind of people either.
I watch something only if I like it, and score it based on my enjoyment.
If I start something and after a few episodes I still can't come to like it, I just drop it, because it's pointless to watch something that you don't like or that you find boring.
Nov 3, 2019 11:43 AM
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sazar said:
You do not watch all movies or TV shows, but chose by genre so why watch anime you probably will not like?



Is this some kind of law or why are you so sure about that being the case for everybody? For me personally it's that I give everything multiple chances because I'm open to everything, if I rather dislike a certain genre overall there is still a good chance I might find something that I will love in that genre like I did in the past already.
Also, giving low scores doesn't necessarily correlate to not enjoying it, it can still be entertaining despite being overall bad, it's more about what you get enjoyment out of which can be many different things. It helps to not be close-minded in those cases which I feel like a critical mindset helps with, but that's just my two cents.
Nov 3, 2019 11:46 AM
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5-6 doesn't mean it's bad to me. It means that it wasn't better and I don't like it better than other anime I watched.
I keep the high scores for my favorites and anime that impressed me very much, because I had pretty high scores, when I made my account here. If everything is special to you, nothing is. Except you just started and only know a bunch of anime.
Nov 3, 2019 11:50 AM

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I don't like dropping animes          
Nov 3, 2019 12:03 PM

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This is a bruh moment for sure

for me under 4 then it is bad and i should drop it but sometimes i just power through if i have free-time.
Nov 3, 2019 12:29 PM
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Because everyone else tells me to watch it. So I watch it out of spite, to show them that, really, it is a garbage anime.
Nov 3, 2019 12:53 PM

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Maybe OP just has shit taste in anime. YEP.



Nov 3, 2019 12:54 PM

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The mysterious "I watch only what I like". How do you know that? You read synopsis of an anime and are able instantly to decide if the anime is bad or good? You have to watch at least one ep to tell if it is any good.

I watch at least few episodes until I am able to tell how good the show is for me. I finish ~85% of the shows which is pretty good amount. People have dropped lists that are as big as completed.

Besides that, rating everything 8 to 10 makes no sense. If everyone would score everything on the scale 8-10 the score would shift. 8 will become the equivalent of 1 and we would probably use decimals to differentiate between "not that good" 8 and "rly good" 8.

I just try to use the whole scale mal gives us: 1-10.
Nov 3, 2019 1:10 PM

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Somewhat of a completionist attitude towards anime makes me watch the whole thing even if I hated it. Plus I get to say with full confidence that a particular show is in fact shit. Take Netsuzou TRap for example as it's the lowest on my list.
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Nov 3, 2019 1:57 PM

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Perhaps they have a lot of free-time?
Nov 3, 2019 2:04 PM

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Not everyone uses only the 4 top scores of the scale.

Some use the whole scale, if you use the whole scale then you will use scores under 'average'.

Nov 3, 2019 2:38 PM

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Reason 1:
It had an enjoyable start and the drop in quality was gradual, such that I only decided I hated it when it was about to finish
Reason 2:
It's a sequel to something I like and I decided to suffer through a bad continuation
Reason 3:
It was short and I finished it because "fuck it"
Reason 4:
It's something I used to like a long time ago but don't anymore
Reason 5:
I watched it thinking I might ironically enjoy it but didn't even get that

I used to sometimes watch something even if it was bad because I found the premise or first episode appealing but that's not the case now
Nov 3, 2019 3:03 PM
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Because it's fun.

"I mean why watch something you know you will not like?"
How are you going to know it's something you don't like? You haven't watched it yet. Sure, you can get an idea of whether you'll be interested in something or not, but you won't know if you'll like it until you start watching it. There are so many shows that seemed to be exactly my thing, but they fell flat. On the other hand, there are shows I thought I'd despise and yet they turned out to be my favorites of all time. Actually, for quite a few of my favorites I actually wasn't incredibly fond of the first few episodes, but I stuck it out and here we are.
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Also, I find that there's usually an element of the show that I really like. Usually, there's a character I really like despite not liking the overall show. So I'll stick around for the character but give my 3/10 or whatever when the show ends. Or in some cases, I'll just stick around for a character while not liking anything else, but then suddenly things get interesting.

Labeling things as simply "good" or "bad" doesn't really mean much. Sometimes, a show can speak to you on one level but completely repulse you on another level. It's like with people. I don't like every aspect of every person in my life. Heck, for some people, it seems there are more negative aspects to them than anything. I should dislike them and not mess with them... yet they have an odd charm to them. Something about them makes me want to still hang out with them. Maybe it's the way we both seem to like the same old school music or both have the same opinion about something that's really important to us. Maybe their demeanor just puts me at ease. Anyway, you still stick with them.

I think, also, things have changed from how they used to be. If I paid for a movie at a theater, I'm not walking out. I think in some instances, you can get your money back, but for the most part, you paid so it'd be a waste not to finish the movie. HOWEVER, it's your money to waste, so it's fine if you DO walk out if the theater-- many have, but at some point it's late night on a Friday and you don't have anything to do anyway. The movie's not that long so might as well finish watching with the family so you can tear it to pieces while you eat your family discounted burritos.
For me, I do the same with DVDs. I bought the DVD. Even if I'm not liking what I'm seeing, I feel like it'd be a waste not to finish it up. And then after it's all said and done, you can talk about it with others. The only thing is, if it's a long series, it's time consuming. 12 episodes is nothing. 26 is also nothing. 100+ plus? Perhaps it's just best to drop, but if you have the time then go for it.

Nowadays, you can stream legally for free, which is great! But at the same time, it's easy to become spoiled by the ease of access.

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Nov 3, 2019 7:54 PM
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Because even if you go into a show thinking you'll like it doesn't mean that you actually will. There's also classic shows that as an anime fan you gotta watch even though they may not quite be your thing.

Also your definition of a high score versus a low score is drastically different than most people. Like you've given over 150 anime a 10/10. Are you REALLY telling me each of those anime is truly a "masterpiece"? Because seeing you put multiple trashy Ecchi shows like To Love Ru at the same level as critically acclaimed shows beloved by everybody like Steins;Gate tells me your definition of what deserves a high score (10, 9, or 8) is drastically more lenient than the vast majority of people.

For what it's worth though there are certainly elitist assholes out there who add popular mainstream shows to their list just to give them a shitty score so they can feel different. That's definitely uncool people watching anime just to give low scores.
Nov 3, 2019 10:29 PM
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yes i agree with you, not all worth 10, but they all were seen by different version of me and if i re-watch some of them , i often change score, but for me at the time it was worth 10.
Nov 4, 2019 4:39 AM
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they are more critical thats for sure, im trying to have more critical scoring too now a days for the sake of my 10/10 scores and lets face it not every anime is very good or 8/10 anyway especially if you have seen a lot of anime already
Nov 4, 2019 4:58 AM
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OCD/autistic. Just see the number of people here that admit to a no drop rule because they have to finish everything while normal people just stop and enjoy themselves in other ways.
Nov 4, 2019 5:04 AM

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^^ i admit i have an affinity with the no drop rule, but i have most definitely made a few exceptions

many of us just want to give the anime a chance to redeem itself, or see if there is any improvement in storyline development, plus how on earth are we supposed to know it's good or not if we don't read a few episodes?

low scores doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't to 'our taste', but rather that the character dynamics, storyline and progression, development, animation, dialogue, pacing, was subpar or poorly written.

there are a lot of factors that make or break an anime, simply "disliking" the synopsis is not the case.
Nov 4, 2019 5:24 AM

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Low score doesn't mean it wasn't enjoyable, there are shows i gave a low score that i enjoyed, i just think it didn't deserve a 6 or a 7 rating. If you rate every show you watch as a 10 or a 9, the rating loses its prestige. Anything rated above 2 gave me at least some enjoyment.
Nov 4, 2019 6:04 AM

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so lets not try anything new?

i personally drop something if i dont enjoy it. I at least give them 3-4 episode chance. Even if i drop them i still rate them, because that was my experience.

There are also many series that i enjoyed watching and gave them poor rating. I agree with other people, just because you enjoyed it dosent mean that you have to rate them high.

Everyone has their own rating system. You just need to be consistent with your own system. Since the score comes down to overall average of everyones rating.

Even with a genre it can be different. You can love a genre and a new idea may be bold and amazing so you give it a 10-masterpeice. But after you watch same idea for 30 times, you may say that they are average. Your taste develops and changes with the thigns you watch. I sometime find myself thinking if i should change my rating to the shows i watched 4-5 years ago. I am a different person now but that doesnt change the fact that the anime had that kind of impact back in the day. Anyway got off topic.

I will end with, its not like you have to follow some standards when you are using myanimelist. Dont try to dictate people with your standards
Nov 4, 2019 7:38 AM
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Who knows what goes on in the mind of an elitist
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Who knows what goes on in the mind of an elitist

Giving low scores != elitism
And your average score is lower than global mean, so...
Nov 4, 2019 11:11 AM
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Just because a person likes anime, does not mean they like "every" anime they watch. I only give high ratings to anime that meet specific criteria.
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Who knows what goes on in the mind of an elitist

Giving low scores != elitism
And your average score is lower than global mean, so...

Wait what?! Mean score being 6 means you are an elitist?! I think you can only be an elitist when you have mean score lower than 5 cause most of the anime are average and people who watched a lot of anime are gonna get used to watching average anime when they can't find the good ones anymore. But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime objectively bad. It's that time when you stop rating an anime based on your enjoyment. But you still continue to watch more and that's when you are an elitist.
I rate based on my enjoyment, that's why I rated all my favorites 10. I also dropped a lot of anime. Elitist don't do that often so that they can shit on it after completing it.
Also a lot of casual users tend to rate an anime higher(despite not enjoying) bc they gotta be a nice person. I don't do that which is why my mean score is lower than global mean.
Long words short: I'm not an elitist
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lavah said:
RandomFriday said:

Giving low scores != elitism
And your average score is lower than global mean, so...

Wait what?! Mean score being 6 means you are an elitist?! I think you can only be an elitist when you have mean score lower than 5 cause most of the anime are average and people who watched a lot of anime are gonna get used to watching average anime when they can't find the good ones anymore. But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad. It's that time when you stop rating an anime based on your enjoyment. But you still continue to watch more and that's when you are an elitist.
I rate based on my enjoyment, that's why I rated all my favorites 10. I also dropped a lot of anime. Elitist don't do that often so that they can shit on it after completing it.
Also a lot of users tend to rate an anime higher bc they gotta be a nice person. I don't do that which is why my mean score is lower than global mean.
Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it. Your whole argument is now voided. There are many shows to which I've given low scores even tho I really enjoyed them. Let's take Tokyo Ghoul as an example. I absolutely adore that show but since it's naught but a trash I gave it a score it deserves 5. I re watched it 5 times so trust me it does not deserve a higher score.


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Wait what?! Mean score being 6 means you are an elitist?! I think you can only be an elitist when you have mean score lower than 5 cause most of the anime are average and people who watched a lot of anime are gonna get used to watching average anime when they can't find the good ones anymore. But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad. It's that time when you stop rating an anime based on your enjoyment. But you still continue to watch more and that's when you are an elitist.
I rate based on my enjoyment, that's why I rated all my favorites 10. I also dropped a lot of anime. Elitist don't do that often so that they can shit on it after completing it.
Also a lot of users tend to rate an anime higher bc they gotta be a nice person. I don't do that which is why my mean score is lower than global mean.
Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it. Your whole argument is now voided. There are many shows to which I've given low scores even tho I really enjoyed them. Let's take Tokyo Ghoul as an example. I absolutely adore that show but since it's naught but a trash I gave it a score it deserves 5. I re watched it 5 times so trust me it does not deserve a higher score.

What are you talking about, I never said this "Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it"

If I gave an anime low score then it definitely means that I did not enjoy it or like it.
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lavah said:
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Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it. Your whole argument is now voided. There are many shows to which I've given low scores even tho I really enjoyed them. Let's take Tokyo Ghoul as an example. I absolutely adore that show but since it's naught but a trash I gave it a score it deserves 5. I re watched it 5 times so trust me it does not deserve a higher score.

What are you talking about, I never said this "Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it"

If I gave an anime low score then it definitely means that I did not enjoy it or like it.
I said that! But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad. And that is why I quoted your saying here.

Well to me it does not mean that.


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Luchse said:
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What are you talking about, I never said this "Just because I gave something a low score it does not automatically mean that I did not enjoy watching it"

If I gave an anime low score then it definitely means that I did not enjoy it or like it.
But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad.

Well to me it does not mean that.

And well I don't have mean score lower than 5. When I first said I don't understand what goes on in the mind of an elitist, I meant it as I really don't understand how each elitist uses the scoring system. And I also edited out the part about ''But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable'' quickly cause I realized I wrote it wrong but you quoted me even before I edited it out and then started the argument.
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#24637 thread about why people giving low scores

My response to these threads was always watch more anime and you will understand yourself but you already watched more than enough. So watch anime "shorts" and you will understand...
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Well you can never know if you are going to like something or not, i guess that people don't like wasting their time and they give low score to what they don't like
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lavah said:
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But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad.

Well to me it does not mean that.

And well I don't have mean score lower than 5
I was too slow on my editing so you haven't seen my full post so let me clarify it in full. The thing when I said that your argument is voided was me quoting myself so in no way was that your saying. Afterward I quoted your But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad. as a way to back up my former statement. My score ain't below 5 yet but I'm on a good way towards that.


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Bcuz the mentality in this site is 10 is they liked and 1 is hated
Nov 4, 2019 12:40 PM

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I'd love to know even before I start watching a show that it's gonna be shit :) Unfortunately, I don't have the supernatural powers. Ah, and by the way, there are also people who use the full grade system. You are not one of them.

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And well I don't have mean score lower than 5
I was too slow on my editing so you haven't seen my full post so let me clarify it in full. The thing when I said that your argument is voided was me quoting myself so in no way was that your saying. Afterward I quoted your But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad. as a way to back up my former statement. My score ain't below 5 yet but I'm on a good way towards that.


Accept the fact that you're an elitist. Just like me *high fives*. If Joe said that having average score around/below 5=elitist, he must be right. It's not like elitism is an attitude or some shit. People don't understand that every individual has a different scale when it comes to anime

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Luchse said:
I was too slow on my editing so you haven't seen my full post so let me clarify it in full. The thing when I said that your argument is voided was me quoting myself so in no way was that your saying. Afterward I quoted your But having lower than 5 means that you consider most anime not enjoyable or you objectively think it's bad. as a way to back up my former statement. My score ain't below 5 yet but I'm on a good way towards that.


Accept the fact that you're an elitist. Just like me *high fives*. If Joe said that having average score around/below 5=elitist, he must be right. It's not like elitism is an attitude or some shit. People don't understand that every individual has a different scale when it comes to anime

@lavah You're drunk, high or brainrooted? Go to sleep
Oh, I very well embrace and welcome the fact that I am an elitist because I have never seen it as something bad (queue the insults!).

Lavah and I had a minor misunderstanding.


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Not everyone doles out 9s and 10s to every show like you do.
10 is something that needs to be saved for extremely special ones, 9 could be flawless shows. If you keep rating every show that way that just destroys the credibility of the score

You have completed 1000+ shows with a mean score of 8.5. I dont even need to look at your animelist to know that you have no real scoring system.
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I use the whole spectrum of 1-10. A '6' anime is not bad. I liked it but it's not special. A '5' is average, mediocre and has no re-watch value. I think most people on this site have a '7' as average. I like to use ALL the numbers, thanks.
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I'm ready to give MHA a 0/10 because it failed to give me anything good other than flat out characters 24/7
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I gave Seven Deadly Sins a bad score because it’s actual trash but I absolutely loved watching the series. You can enjoy an anime and give it a low score.
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Maybe OP just has shit taste in anime. YEP.
OP watched a hell of a lot more anime than you. The good majority of the little anime you’ve seen are a bunch of unknown garbage titles. Know wonder you rate most of your shows a 5
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This has got to be the single most idiotic topic of discussion on MAL today, and yet, it never fails to pop up every single week.

Insane.
Nov 4, 2019 3:39 PM
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Probably because they are using different scoring system.
Also some anime fans are completionists and don't drop anime no matter what.
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I watch anime that I give low scores to because I genuinely find these shows entertaining eventhough I think they're bad. I assume other people do it either for the same reason as me, because they hate themselves, or just to have something to bitch about.
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For me personally, I tend to be a completionist. Even if I don't like an anime very much I'll usually finish it anyway (at least if it's not much longer than about 2-cour; if it's much beyond that I'd be more likely to drop it from a time management perspective). So far it's only happened once that I found an anime so unpleasant to watch that I had to drop it after a few episodes.

Many viewers aren't comfortable scoring an anime they didn't complete, and we can assume that on average, those who completed it scored it higher than those who didn't likely would have. You might say that on the whole it balances out, but you can check this by looking at the stats and figuring out the completed vs. dropped ratio is. After looking at several dozen anime that were completed and were one or two cour in length, I noted that typically the dropped was about 3-4% of completed. Some were lower, and a couple were much higher, above 10%. A high drop percentage tells me it probably deserves a lower score than it has.

If you're going to look at this, keep a few things in mind. Movies and single-episode specials and OVAs nearly always have a pretty low drop rate regardless. Longer running series (especially >100 episodes) get more time-management drops and shouldn't be dinged as much as shorter series. And it only gives reasonable results for completed series and is all but useless for currently airing series.
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