| I don't like tsunderes. My least favorite ones are Asuka from NGE and Taiga from Toradora. What is your opinion on them? |
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| But are you aware of a fact that there are some people who actually believe that Taiga is not a tsundere right ? |
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Swagernator said: But are you aware of a fact that there are some people who actually believe that Taiga is not a tsundere right ? I dropped Toradora 6 episodes in and she is a tsundere. Why do people think that? |
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| That everybody needs to chill out about them. Yes, if you're looking for girls with waifu qualities, then tsunderes are a horrible option. They are loud and obnoxious. But at the same time, they are generally the most fun part of the series they're in. Asuka is a total bitch, but she is a pretty interesting character. Taiga is annoying, but here tsundere qualities are what make the show memorable. I would pick a tsundere over a boring kuudere or an annoying submisive dandere any day of the week. Not in a "best girl" manner, but they are at least funny most of the time. And let's think about girls like Kurisu from Steins;Gate. She is a tsundere, but not an abusive one and nobody seems to have a problem with her. I think people should be hating on the weak ass protagonist that let tsunderes be mean to them, instead of the tsundere herserlf. Btw, Edward Elric is totally a tsundere, so perhaps you don't hate them as much as you think? |
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| I hate the abusive ones and what I hate more than the tsunderes themselves is the MC tolerating their nonsense and abuses and getting along with them. Wolfram is the worst tsundere out there. |
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| They are cute, I like everyone of them I've seen so far. |
Dlwuik said: What is your opinion on tsunderes? I don't like tsunderes. My least favorite ones are Asuka from NGE and Taiga from Toradora. What is your opinion on them? "Tsundere" is a character archetype that is essentially an exaggeration of some real-life traits, similar to a bunch of other such tropes. If done subtly, the character can be believable, but this shouldn't be their defining personality. In fact this isn't even really a personality -- it's just an attitude toward a romantic relationship. (It's even possible for a character, or a person, to have some sort of attitude like this toward one relationship and a different attitude toward another.) Anyhow, I haven't watched Toradora, but I am a fan of Asuka from NGE, but for reasons other than hints of romance between her and Shinji, a romance that I largely didn't pay much attention to. |
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kermit94 said: I would pick a tsundere over a boring kuudere or an annoying submisive dandere any day of the week. Not in a "best girl" manner, but they are at least funny most of the time. This. If written poorly, sure tsunderes can be annoying, but at least they can be interesting. Not fond of the super over-reactive kind. But Asuka Soryu in NGE was necessary to give the plot energy- imagine only Shinji and Rei to push the plot along. Would have been boring |
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| If they're done well then I will like them. For now, I only found one tsundere which I find her tsundere-ness a bit too much. It's one of the heroines of Psychic School Wars. I actually thought she was bullying the poor boy at first... Also, I actually like Taiga from Toradora. |
 Help, I'm hooked into the Fate series (not all) and am obsessed with Shirou x Saber! Also, forever hoping for a ufotable remake of the Fate route! |
| I find them so annoying but I can tolerate them (I guess). I just hate when the tsundere ends up being who MC chooses out of a pool of way more interesting and more viable love interests. |
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| Just another day in AD, just another day someone mistakes Taiga as a tsundere |
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A chocolate tsundere... huh??  It piques my interest... |
| Are Kirisu and Yukinon Tsunderes? If they're I've got to admit I like Tsunderes... I agree with u ,Taiga is the reason why I dropped Toradora . I can't understand the hate towards Asuka though , c'mon she made NGE more interesting and how can people complain about Asuka when you have Shinji? |
kermit94 said: Btw, Edward Elric is totally a tsundere, so perhaps you don't hate them as much as you think? I know, and it is the yet again sad truth I must accept >:( at least he's a good one. Even though he didn't seem like one when I was rewatching random episodes of both FMA 2003 and Brotherhood today... Deknijff said: Just another day in AD, just another day someone mistakes Taiga as a tsundere She is a tsundere though? I don't see how she isn't one. Her seiyuu is Rie Kugimiya (which has a lot of tsundere characters) and she acts like one. |
dlwuikFeb 10, 2018 10:34 AM
Edward Elric > your waifu |
Jare4lopez said: Are Kirisu and Yukinon Tsunderes? If they're I've got to admit I like Tsunderes... I agree with u ,Taiga is the reason why I dropped Toradora . I can't understand the hate towards Asuka though , c'mon she made NGE more interesting and how can people complain about Asuka when you have Shinji? Yeah she did make the anime interesting but I don't like her personality. |
Edward Elric > your waifu |
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Dlwuik said: kermit94 said: Btw, Edward Elric is totally a tsundere, so perhaps you don't hate them as much as you think? I know, and it is the yet again sad truth I must except >:( at least he's a good one. Deknijff said: Just another day in AD, just another day someone mistakes Taiga as a tsundere She is a tsundere though? I don't see how she isn't one. Her seiyuu is Rie Kugimiya (which has a lot of tsundere characters) and she acts like one. Nah fam... She only meant to be called the "Tsundere Queen"... duh... Not the character itself.. |
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| I love them because I love passionate characters. I like male ones more than female ones, generally but in harem, I'm almost always rooting for the tsundere. XD I do not like: Kirino Asuka Langley Akane Tendou Kagami Chiaki from Gamers or Mari from This Ugly Yet Beautiful World These girls are outshone by other characters in their series.........or they are just downright very unlikable. There are other tsundere that I like as characters but not as love interests with the MC. Saber>>>>>>>Rin from Fate series Eucliwood >>>>>Haruna from Zombie Desuka? Tamaki>>>>>>>Hikaru from Ouran Hinata>>>>>>>>Teru from Koko Ni Iru Yo My favorite male tsundere Why: I've never been more convinced by another character what the meaning of "true love" is. Takuto pretends he's all tough and stand-offish but the truth is, he will do anything for the girl he loves (I MEAN ANYTHING), even in the finale where he He's pretty much the reason I got obsessed with the tsundere archetype. But nobody else has done it better than this guy. XD My favorite female tsundere Why: Aria is viewed by many to be a selfish, demanding little brat and while this appears true on the surface, the reality is Like all WELL-WRITTEN tsundere, she has an incredibly sweet side and shows it by doing things like In my opinion, she's the most 'moe' of all the loli tsundere archetypes. What people need to understand about the appeal of a tsundere is just simply this: They may act mean but if the author gets it right, they show the most love compared to everyone else in the long run. A nice dere-dere character may do small things for a MC to show their affection but a tsundere character won't hesitate to take a bullet for you. |
ChiibiFeb 10, 2018 10:44 AM
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| tsunderes? you mean those walking cancers i'll just quote myself tragedydesu said: HOW CAN ANYONE LOVE THOSE UGLY DISGUSTING ABUSIVE PIECES OF SHIT JUST LOOKING AT THEM MAKES WANT TO PUKE FUCK THEM AND FUCK PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM     |
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I just love anything about tsunderes. Like this |
Dlwuik said: the fact she is voiced by Rie Kugimiya doesn't matter. Its like saying Sora and Sorata is the same character archetype because they have the same voice actor Deknijff said: She is a tsundere though? I don't see how she isn't one. Her seiyuu is Rie Kugimiya (which has a lot of tsundere characters) and she acts like oneJust another day in AD, just another day someone mistakes Taiga as a tsundere   When it comes to Taiga and identifying a tsundere people look simply at the most surface level of detail possible. The average anime fan now a days will look at a character and think. ”Was this character an asshole right now?” If yes they'll call them a tsundere If no they'll call her something else To properly tell if someone is a tsundere you have to examine their behaviour and why they act as they due. Taiga isn't a tsundere as a large part of her behaviour and ill treatment towards Ryuuji hasn't nothing to due with being in love with him since she is basically just a rude asshole to anyone who annoys her and is generally distant because she dislikes people. Another reason it should be apparent she isn't a tsundere is because of how she acts in response to Yuusaku who she is currently in love with. She doesn't attack him or anything of the sort. She doesn't hide her affection toward him. In fact she has an obsession over him as she stalks him and takes photos of him in her spare time  @tragedydesu I honestly still can't believe you'd include Emilia. Are you forgetting Sadao killed her father? Or do you just not care or something? |
DeknijffFeb 10, 2018 11:04 AM
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| As with any other archetype, some are pretty good with nice qualities besides their attitude and some are downright terrible and follow cliche patterns, so I don't treat it as a defining trait when it comes to character likeability. |
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| I only accept Yui in the tsundere section of this hellish industry. |
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| i hate them...they are annoying to watch and listen...i hate every each of them. They're way to bitchy, aggressive and commanding. I love watching them cry or getting destroyed by guys or other non tsundere girls. Every time i see tsundere in anime i always wish they die. |
ItzYaBoiSatanFeb 10, 2018 10:58 AM
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| Taiga's absolutely a tsundere. I'll defend that to the ground. XD FUCK PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM @tragedydesu: That's out of line. Don't take your hatred out on people who like characters you hate like a screaming toddler who needs his diaper changed. =_= |
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| If the tsundere is the sole romantic interest, then I don't really mind them at all If there's clearly another more loveable (both in the story and irl) character, than I generally dislike them cough Nisekoi cough |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Could be cute as long as their brashness doesn't cross the boundary into being downright assholes. |
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| Taiga is my favourite anime girl and my waifu. She actually becomes more "dere" and less "tsun" if you actually watch it past halfway. I agree with Asuka though. |
Pixel_VapourFeb 10, 2018 11:15 AM
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| @Deknijff you can search by yourself in any anime related site (baka-updates/mal ...) everyone call her a tsundere she acts like every generic tsundere even if she had a good reason to do it |
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| I like them as long as they are not the overly violent type. |
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Chiibi said: You are kinda making me want to go back and watch Aria SA.My favorite female tsundere Why: Aria is viewed by many to be a selfish, demanding little brat and while this appears true on the surface, the reality is Like all WELL-WRITTEN tsundere, she has an incredibly sweet side and shows it by doing things like In my opinion, she's the most 'moe' of all the loli tsundere archetypes. I watched the first episode, decided that lead boy's superpower was stupid, and dropped it. I watched Aria SA AA, but then that was underwhelming. Besides, the original series has the better OP. |
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tragedydesu said: How does her being what others deem generic matter @Deknijff you can search by yourself in any anime related site (baka-updates/mal ...) everyone call her a tsundere she acts like every generic tsundere even if she had a good reason to do it You telling me she should be looked upon badly because she struggles being near the man who killed her father and caused great suffering over thousands and thousands of lives? |
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Chiibi said: FUCK PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM @tragedydesu: That's out of line. Don't take your hatred out on people who like characters you hate like a screaming toddler who needs his diaper changed. =_= I agree. I don't tell people to fuck themselves if they like something I don't. That's childish. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Chiibi said: You are kinda making me want to go back and watch Aria SA.My favorite female tsundere Why: Aria is viewed by many to be a selfish, demanding little brat and while this appears true on the surface, the reality is Like all WELL-WRITTEN tsundere, she has an incredibly sweet side and shows it by doing things like In my opinion, she's the most 'moe' of all the loli tsundere archetypes. I watched the first episode, decided that lead boy's superpower was stupid, and dropped it. I watched Aria SA AA, but then that was underwhelming. Besides, the original series has the better OP. Haha, I'm glad a post of mine makes you feel that way. I kinda want to rewatch it myself soon; maybe show it to a friend next week. :D Kinji's power is indeed....ridiculous but I am extremely attracted to him and his ship with Aria so it's okay with me. LOL I like the other characters a lot too, save a certain yandere cow. >_> |
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| When done right, tsunderes are strong women who don’t give a damn about a man’s feelings, even though they (sort of) care. They would probably hate feminists, too. At least that’s what I get from her: |
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| @Deknijff she falled in love with him and still act like she hate him only tsunderes do that i can't deny that she have a good reason to treat him like a trash still i hate her |
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tragedydesu said: That hate is childish honestly Desu @Deknijff she falled in love with him and still act like she hate him only tsunderes do that i can't deny that she have a good reason to treat him like a trash still i hate her she has done nothing wrong. Its only natural to struggle with falling in love with the man who killed your family |
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| I don't get why people are saying that Taiga is not a tsundere..? She most definitely is. She is almost a carbon copy of Shana and Louise. I do prefer Taiga though, especially over Louise (worst tsundere ever..) Anyways, a quick look at my faves and you can tell that I really like tsunderes lol However, not all tsunderes. The ones that are always physically violent with their love interests are really annoying. I prefer the ones that develop over time to the point where they're almost completely dere by the end of the series. I guess I just like seeing that kind of development in their character and their relationships. |
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Alfond said: She is not a carbon copy of Shana and Louise I don't get why people are saying that Taiga is not a tsundere..? She most definitely is. She is almost a carbon copy of Shana and Louise. I do prefer Taiga though, especially over Louise (worst tsundere ever..) there is a reason why you prefer Taiga over Shana and Louise. Its because they are different to each other |
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Deknijff said: Alfond said: She is not a carbon copy of Shana and Louise I don't get why people are saying that Taiga is not a tsundere..? She most definitely is. She is almost a carbon copy of Shana and Louise. I do prefer Taiga though, especially over Louise (worst tsundere ever..) there is a reason why you prefer Taiga over Shana and Louise. Its because they are different to each other I second this. I haven't seen Shakugan no Shana yet but Louise is a hell of a lot more abusive than Taiga ever was in the whole series. |
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Deknijff said: Alfond said: She is not a carbon copy of Shana and Louise I don't get why people are saying that Taiga is not a tsundere..? She most definitely is. She is almost a carbon copy of Shana and Louise. I do prefer Taiga though, especially over Louise (worst tsundere ever..) there is a reason why you prefer Taiga over Shana and Louise. Its because they are different to each other Taiga is a character that is much more developed and complex compared to Shana and Louise, but it doesn't change the fact that the way that she acts is typical for a tsundere, regardless of the reasons of why she acts that way. The most simple way to describe a tsundere is someone who is initially cold and hostile towards someone but gradually becomes more accepting and kind (or less hostile at least) towards that same person. Taiga fits this description, along with the other tsunderes that I mentioned, even if Taiga has her own circumstances for acting the way that she does. |
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Alfond said: You're looking at the most surface level of detail as for what makes a tsundere. Its more than just ”This character acted on an aggressive level and then became nicer later” Deknijff said: Taiga is a character that is much more developed and complex compared to Shana and Louise, but it doesn't change the fact that the way that she acts is typical for a tsundere, regardless of the reasons of why she acts that way. The most simple way to describe a tsundere is someone who is initially cold and hostile towards someone but gradually becomes more accepting and kind (or less hostile at least) towards that same person. Taiga fits this description, along with the other tsunderes that I mentioned, even if Taiga has her own circumstances for acting the way that she does. She is not a carbon copy of Shana and Louise there is a reason why you prefer Taiga over Shana and Louise. Its because they are different to each other Reason for behaviour and how they act is an important factor to determine what is really a tsundere and what is not. Its not this vague point A to point B kind of thing. Lol more developed and complex Well think as you wish there I guess  They're all more or less pretty straightforward to me honestly and not complex |
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Deknijff said: Alfond said: You're looking at the most surface level of detail as for what makes a tsundere. Its more than just ”This character acted on an aggressive level and then became nicer later” Taiga is a character that is much more developed and complex compared to Shana and Louise, but it doesn't change the fact that the way that she acts is typical for a tsundere, regardless of the reasons of why she acts that way. The most simple way to describe a tsundere is someone who is initially cold and hostile towards someone but gradually becomes more accepting and kind (or less hostile at least) towards that same person. Taiga fits this description, along with the other tsunderes that I mentioned, even if Taiga has her own circumstances for acting the way that she does. Reason for behaviour and how they act is an important factor to determine what is really a tsundere and what is not. Its not this vague point A to point B kind of thing. Lol more developed and complex Well think as you wish there I guess They're all more or less pretty straightforward to me honestly and not complex I honestly don't see how this is even a matter for debate. Maybe you don't like the fact that people call Taiga a tsundere? Or maybe you simply don't like the term at all? When I say that Taiga is a tsundere, that's because it's an obvious trait of her character, but I don't mean that her character is limited to that. If you want to say that she's more than just a tsundere then that's completely fine but she still fits into that character type. |
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