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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Both mother and daughter have been stripped naked and tortured... It's a miracle she didn't lose her sanity sooner. |
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| Im pretty sure at the end Eileen was leaving details intentionally out at the end, she explainedshe couldnt cast herself into baby Erza, but she dint explained why, and im pretty sure "because she dint have the proper magic knowledge to do that" is not the right answer |
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| Dayum, the whole twisted backstory at last! |
| Woah Irene tortured & stripped. Failed to enchant herself into her child. Erza vs Irene. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| wow Erza's dad is a fucking piece of shit huh. |
| I swear, a spin-off telling how this war of humans against dragons played out would be far more interesting than what we got lately. |
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Isterio said: It´s been already done I CAN´T BELIEVE THIS HORSESHIT WAS WRITTEN WHEN A BETTER SHOUNEN DID THIS EXACT SAME BACKSTORY in a good way. JUST STEAL GAARA´S BACKSTORY AND YOU GOT IT. But no we get this horseshit here because "humans are evvviiillllll". Holy fuck Hiro this a new low into bullshit territory for you. and i just wondereing where i have read this... LMAO... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Confused. Very fucked up as well but as someone who went through the same thing with my own birth mother I have got to say well brave and we done Erza. We don't need the people who through us away like shit! I enjoyed this short but very impactful chapter. Lifts my spirits. :) |
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| Literally a snoozefest. Like am I suppose to care and related with Irene or something? Especially for a character who’s pretty much plot a device for Mary Sue Erza to get even more relevancy and gain even more asspull powerups?. The fight itself is going to suck in trend with most of Erza’s fights, I can’t wait till it ends. Erza: Poorly written character at best. |
| I hope it doesn't end in the 'Fairy Tail way', Eileen changing her heart at the last moment when she loses and Erza along with everyone of course forgives her. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
Ligerleon89 said: Reymon698 said: Im pretty sure at the end Eileen was leaving details intentionally out at the end, she explainedshe couldnt cast herself into baby Erza, but she dint explained why, and im pretty sure "because she dint have the proper magic knowledge to do that" is not the right answer After that last post I posted. I do hope that's the case. I have two theories 1- When Erza was born, she snapped back to her "mama" self and realized she couldnt do it, disgusted at herself and unable to look at baby Erza in shame, she left her to care in rosmary village. As for why she is trying to kill her in the present, no clue about that 2-Maybe it was because at the end Erza was born part dragon, she spend hundreds of years in Ieleen´s womb while she was still a dragon, so its not weird to think that Erza body got affected, so Eileen found out she would still be part dragon even if she enchanted herself unto Erza |
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| LOL Irene had it rough, being betrayed by ur people and ur husband, tortued and humliliated, i guess we get why she hates humans that much and respects Acnologia who's almost like her, maybe he had it rough too before he decided to start killing and destroying everything and anything he encounters Erza being as brave as ever, she has a very strong personnality, she wasnt infected at all by what Irene said, she knows what her goal and who's her family, didnt waver a little (unlike Natsu when he found out he was Zeref's brother, he lost it for real and was about to commit a double suicide xD) NO NATSU IN THIS CHAPTER ??? WHY HIRO WHYYYYY I WANNA KNOW WHATS GONNA HAPPEN TO HIM ! im pretty sure Natsu's gonna have a mini arc only for himself, i mean everybody got his own arc / flashbacks in fairy tail except Natsu, the only thing he did was taking down the vilains : (Deliora and Lion in Gray's arc, Jellal and destroyed tower of heaven in Erza's arc, Done almost everything in Lucy's arc, Oracion cies was for Wendy too, got zero and cobra, saved the guild and stopped nirvana Tenrou was related to the past of fairy tail, Gray was a bit related (ultear) Laxus arc was for Laxus/Makaroc too Edolas was for Happy and charles) so i guess it's about time we get one for Natsu, and since this one might be the last and Natsu is the MC (along with Lucy) i think it's going to be dramatic, |
Hey, I said it would be interesting not better. At least we get to see a war in FT that is not one-sided to a single faction and have consistent losses on both sides. |
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| For FT standards this backstory is quite good |
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| Irene betrayed by her lover and humans and gets tortured which gives rise to her human complex. Erza's word were real motivational :'( |
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| Irene suffered for 3 years yet she didn't care about herself and only wanted the baby to survive, and then after those hundred of years of being a dragon she was still thinking about the baby yet after all that she abandoned her. That was a very sad ending to their relationship. All that effort wasted mad me really sad. I went back to chapter 510 to see if she was the same dragon that attacked Zeref & Natsu's village but it doesn't look like it, that silhouette of that dragon looks too different. At least we now know where Erza gets her selflessness from, whenever she gets beat up she only thinks of her guild mates instead of her own well being. And the scar was also explained, that's an arranged marriage for you, true love doesn't always from them. And lastly, did anyone else realize how badass Erza looked in that last panel with that new armor. Realistically though it should not help her, way too much difference in power plus Erza has been messed up multiple times during this war. Maybe it's the perfect time for Acnologia to make an appearance again? I think only him or END could defeat Irene and August. |
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| im still in shock after being just stunned for like a hour about what just happened.. but DAAAAMN! either way now we got the Christmas special along with it all ! |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
| Pretty fucked up backstory for Irene, it's unfortunate that he husband was such a jackass. Well, it looks like she and Erza will fight now. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| Kinda a disappointment that the reveal of Erza's father is that he is just a normal, boring human (despite being a general) being while her mother is the mother of all dragon slayers... |
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| Well I didn't expect the father to be such a dick. Irine sure had it rough T_T Makes sense why she hates humans after she got betrayed like that... Not caring for Erza though.. I feel like she's lying or that lack of sleep/food made her crazy. |
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| I honestly think hiro mashima doesn't have a clue what he's doing any more. Erza now is like Natsu and all the sudden has ties to the Dragon race and even Zeref. So what Erza is a dragon slayer or half breed or what ever. Doesn't that like contradict the whole story about the "true" dragon slayers coming from 400 yrs in the past though. Come on man this is ridiculous and the reason behind why Eiline is suddenly evil, is a bunch of hogwash. I honestly can't take nothing in FT serious any more. Some of these idea's of his just honestly come out of no where. Some times I think Hiro just comes up with these crazy idea's to show some development with said main characters, but it doesn't really matter in the long run because these "characters" or villains get pretty much killed off in the same arc and there role in the story doesn't amount to nothing at that point. |
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| Irene quite desperate to become human again back then..not that I'm surprised about that. The background story about Irene still feels fucked up to me. I expect the big fight to come next chapter or so. |
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Stark700 said: Irene quite desperate to become human again back then..not that I'm surprised about that. The background story about Irene still feels fucked up to me. I expect the big fight to come next chapter or so. Stark your not the first person to post this time. Your getting a little rusty. |
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| I feel awful for Irene and it makes sense why she's the way she is. Tortured, embarassed, treated like shit and abandoned by her baby daddy who wanted to carve her stomach open. All Irene wanted was to co-exist with dragons because she loved them. :/ |
TehSnawnDec 22, 2016 10:46 PM
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Isterio said: This is so retarded and forced. The moral is a nice one, but the whole motivation is pointless and dumb. It´s just to make Erza´s Dad a dick and justify Irene as a bitch that´s in the right when even a kid can point out how dumb everyone´s motivation is and predict that by the end she´s gonna be proven wrong because it´s obvious that she´s wrong. She was tortured by her loved ones, but that doesn´t mean that the world is evil. it just means like with every other cookie cutter villain that just those few guys were dickholes for the sake of being dickholes. It´s bs it´s the worst form of teenage literature. It´s anger enducing in how stupid this plotline is. Even if Erza´s Dad doesn´t have an ounce of love for his wife because political marriage, his behaviour makes zero sense. Even if his motivations are the fear of a character switch on his wife due to dragonification none of this justifies the cruelity or the violence him and his people exhibited towards Irene. An assasination attempt or a failed execution would perfectly replace all the bullshit and give Irene a believeable story arc that delivers the same character development. It´s been already done I CAN´T BELIEVE THIS HORSESHIT WAS WRITTEN WHEN A BETTER SHOUNEN DID THIS EXACT SAME BACKSTORY in a good way. JUST STEAL GAARA´S BACKSTORY AND YOU GOT IT. But no we get this horseshit here because "humans are evvviiillllll". Holy fuck Hiro this a new low into bullshit territory for you. Aren't you the one who usually say that I'm a bit unfair when it comes to Fairy Tail? ^^ But yeah ... it was quite bad. I really liked how unconsistent the father was. "Hello I'm the father ! Irene I love you ... wait no ! TORTUUUUUUUUUURE !!!!!" |
short_review said: Aren't you the one who usually say that I'm a bit unfair when it comes to Fairy Tail? ^^ But yeah ... it was quite bad. I really liked how unconsistent the father was. "Hello I'm the father ! Irene I love you ... wait no ! TORTUUUUUUUUUURE !!!!!" These type of villains just grind my gears. I dropped my rewatch of One Piece during Enies Lobby only because of Spandam. The guy is literally the worst. I hate when an author pulls this type of of storytelling:  |
IsterioDec 23, 2016 8:46 AM
| Erza's mother had it rough. :( |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
Hirugiku said: wow Erza's dad is a fucking piece of shit huh. yeah pretty loser , even if she turned into a dragon i would still stay with her ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ot: That explains why she so loyal to zefer |
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| I didn't really like the previous chapter's backstory,but that takes the cake.Mashima is trying to make us feel bad for Irene,who was getting tortured all the time,because she was transforming to a dragon,while being pregnant for 3 years!Since they knew that she was transforming into a dragon what's the point to try break her spirit and not instantly killing her so she can't create the havoc she caused afterwards.Her husband,acted completely irrational and also the scar he inflicted to her has been completely wasted plot-wise,since it didn't affect neither her kid nor her emotional stability since she had been already tortured for her dragonification.I expect next week some kind of ass-pull fight and after Irene loses Mashima will try to redeem her character out of nowhere.Time to drop the score of this manga with this trashy backstory and arc. |
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geearf said: I don't get it. Eileen was the queen, how could her husband have more power than her to order her jailed? Her husband was from a different kingdom. |
| Well then... Sorry Erza |
FoxyKitsuneDec 29, 2016 4:11 PM
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RileyReid said: For FT standards this backstory is quite good Agreed, very surprising! |
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