| People use the word "edgy" negative alternative word for Dark/Mature. It's more like saying the anime is being "Too dark", or "Being dark for sake of being dark" We commonly see that from people who dislikes dark toned anime; for example, Fate series fans who hate Fate/Zero for being unnecessary & edgy prequel. Therefore, many wimps would complain about :  |
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| If not handled right then yes it can Too bad edgy anime rarely are executed properly (Tokyo Ghoul, Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki etc) |
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Comic_Sans said: If not handled right then yes it can Too bad edgy anime rarely are executed properly (Tokyo Ghoul, Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki etc) |
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| No, Dark and edgy anime is better Oh yeah and OP, speaking about Fate series I like HF the most, followed by Zero. |
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| fate isn't really edgy just saying |
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Nagirah said: If the edginess is only thing about the anime that stands out, then it is bad. It's sort of like using fanservice to cover up shitty plot and characters. Wait, it's exactly the same which is why I dislike both of them. Good example of this is Akame ga Kill. Yep... |
| There is a certain amount of edginess an anime/manga can have, if its too much, it starts to be stupid and to only shine by its edginess like the anime adaptations of Akame ga Kill and Tokyo Ghoul. |
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| calling fate zero edgy us one of the most patetic excuses the fate fandom uses to say ubw is better |
TYxTxYT said: Well, atleast it's better than the "Movement for hentai" BSYou are making a shitload of posts lately. |
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Comic_Sans said: If not handled right then yes it can Too bad edgy anime rarely are executed properly (Tokyo Ghoul, Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki etc) I agree but also without that edginess i wouldnt have bothered with those shows |
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Arturio said: Uh ok, Urobuchi's postface from LN 1 seems to say differently fate isn't really edgy just saying Gen Urobuchi said: I am full of hatred towards men's so-called happiness, and had to push the characters I poured my heart out to create into the abyss of tragedy. |
badwolf45f said: You're a very edgy personComic_Sans said: If not handled right then yes it can Too bad edgy anime rarely are executed properly (Tokyo Ghoul, Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki etc) I agree but also without that edginess i wouldnt have bothered with those shows |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| only if it's the only one thing that become it stand out point. |
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| Berserk taught me edginess when used appropriately can actually be entertaining. Btw, I wouldn't describe Fate Zero as edgy. Definitely dark, but that was usually used for some purpose. Some of the caster scenes may be considered a bit unneeded I guess, but still... |
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geralt said: Berserk taught me edginess when used appropriately can actually be entertaining. Btw, I wouldn't describe Fate Zero as edgy. Definitely dark, but that was usually used for some purpose. Some of the caster scenes may be considered a bit unneeded I guess, but still... Yes, they kill children |
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Comic_Sans said: badwolf45f said: You're a very edgy personI agree but also without that edginess i wouldnt have bothered with those shows this shows have nothing to offer besides the edginess |
Comic_Sans said: badwolf45f said: You're a very edgy personI agree but also without that edginess i wouldnt have bothered with those shows ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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badwolf45f said: Comic_Sans said: You're a very edgy person ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) lmao |
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| I really dislike ever using the word because it's far too vague, but to me it's a negative word. Ergo, if there's an anime I would consider 'edgy' (Mirrai Nikki is the only one that comes to mind) then I consider it bad. |
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gabrielrroiz said: Comic_Sans said: You're a very edgy person this shows have nothing to offer besides the edginess Obviously Akame Ga kill has a deep story full of character development and likeable cast, no one watched it for the blood. |
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| I don't even know what the word means any more, seeing as so many people use it to mean different things. From what I gather though, edgy is apparently dark themes being used badly or excessively or something of the like. |
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omfgplzstop said: gabrielrroiz said: calling fate zero edgy us one of the most patetic excuses the fate fandom uses to say ubw is better what? show me someone who actually thinks the UBW anime is better than Zero People say the VN is better, which I (and the vast majority of people who have read it) think is correct. Edginess has nothing to do with it. http://myanimelist.net/profile/OneTrueBaita |
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| The line between edgy and dark is thin, and is dictated by whether you like the anime or not. |
| In my dictionary, yes. Edgy is often associated with the word unreasonable. Lets use FZ as example. 1. Why did Caster kill all those chuldren? He kill them without any particular reason. 2. Why did Kiritsugu start killing people? His dream is to be superhero and killing even innocent people is not how you become one. 3. Why does Kariya kill Tokiomi wifes? Its one of the most unreasonable scene in FZ. For me, edgy is 'usually' bad. |
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Deago said: omfgplzstop said: what? show me someone who actually thinks the UBW anime is better than Zero People say the VN is better, which I (and the vast majority of people who have read it) think is correct. Edginess has nothing to do with it. http://myanimelist.net/profile/OneTrueBaita Never heard him say UBW is better, only that UBW was good/a fine adaptation. |
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Randoll_ said: edgy means lotsa thingspls learn what edgy actually means ok thx BangToyib's examples are deffo edgy, as per Deago's definition |
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omfgplzstop said: badwolf45f said: Obviously Akame Ga kill has a deep story full of character development and likeable cast, no one watched it for the blood. this isnt that far from the truth tbh deep story full of character development is not far from the truth? |
omfgplzstop said: He acknowledges its flaws as an adaptation and just says that he personally enjoys it more because it reminds him of scene from the VN accompanied by gr8 action and shit. If not, he still doesn't say it's better than Zero because it's edgy. they keep saying that the only reason people like fate zero and deslike fate stay night is because it is not edgy like fate zero hence the meme unlimited grimdark works |
Duskfall said: What"Edgy" carries a positive connotation these days, so no, edgy shows are great, only because they are edgy. No |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
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Snappynator said: Never heard him say UBW is better, only that UBW was good/a fine adaptation. I never said that, how shameful! He's my nakama fate fan |
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| Not necessarily. Hellsing felt quite edgy to me but it was still good because it had more going on for it than just the edgyness. If the only thing that stands out in the show is that it's Edgy then the show lacks more prominent qualities, and that's what ruins it. Not the Edgyness. |
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BangToyib said: Thanks for all these spoilers broIn my dictionary, yes. Edgy is often associated with the word unreasonable. Lets use FZ as example. 1. Why did Caster kill all those chuldren? He kill them without any particular reason. 2. Why did Kiritsugu start killing people? His dream is to be superhero and killing even innocent people is not how you become one. 3. Why does Kariya kill Tokiomi wifes? Its one of the most unreasonable scene in FZ. For me, edgy is 'usually' bad. |
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gabrielrroiz said: omfgplzstop said: He acknowledges its flaws as an adaptation and just says that he personally enjoys it more because it reminds him of scene from the VN accompanied by gr8 action and shit. If not, he still doesn't say it's better than Zero because it's edgy. they keep saying that the only reason people like fate zero and deslike fate stay night is because it is not edgy like fate zero hence the meme unlimited grimdark works Someone called me? As I've said before, I cannot be objective on the UBW anime because it's something I've waited ages for, and is something that has hit most of my expectations. That's not to say it deserves the 10/10 I gave it, nor does it say it doesn't deserve it. Zero is the same, as is Carnival Phantasm and Prillya. If you were to ask me which is better, I cannot answer either, only that I enjoyed UBW more than Zero. Also, Zero is edgy, there's no denying it. That adds to its appeal for me though, as a tragic story that I knew the ending of. Also, if you'd bear with me, I'll go dig up my old review on UBW. |
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Deago said: People use the word "edgy" negative alternative word for Dark/Mature. Ima stop you right there. It's "dark/ immature". Carry on. |
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| @omfg and gabriel OneTrueBaita said: Oh dear, I've forgotten to review UBW in the UBW forum. A travesty I'll fix right now. -_-" Alright, this has been an amazing ride from start to finish. A bit bumpy pacing-wise at first in S2, but it evened out afterwards. The last two episodes were beyond incredible, and they make up for any problems I have had with this adaptation (such as no Ever-Present Feeling remix ;_;). Needless to say, Shirou vs Gil was the best fight in this adaptation, and having a new Emiya remix is never a bad thing. I do love how they changed the fight from the VN's simple "press onto Gil and don't let him regain composure". If they did that in the anime, it would be boring as heck. The visuals, barring a few frames, were top-notch, so I have no complaints there. Saber and Archer's scenes were very well done as well. Last episode exceeded all my expectations. We finally get to see Shirou and Rin in London! London! It was pure fanservice, and I loved every minute of it. In fact, as a Shirou x Rin diehard shipper, I enjoyed this episode more than Carnival Phantasm, and that really is saying something. The Answer scene at the end was also done well, and really was all I ever wanted from it. Ep 25, I love you to death~ The rest of UBW isn't at that level of quality, but it certainly isn't bad at all. The fights, needless to say, were orgasmic, with Archer vs Lancer Round 2 as my personal highlight. Rho Aias' animation was very well done, and the sound effects in that fight were spot-on. Shirou vs Archer was somewhat hit-or-miss at first, with the Emiya 2015 BGM teaser, but after Last Stardust kicked in everything else was perfect. Comedic scenes were also done to my satisfaction throughout the two cours. Nothing much to say except that they brought me back to the first time I played the VN. The characters look crisp and well-drawn, reminiscent of the VN itself, far better than what DEEN and Silver Link offer, which is one thing I'll appreciate forever. Alright, down to the criticisms I have for UBW. It certainly isn't perfect when it comes to some fight scenes. For example, Gil vs Berserker was constantly interrupted by Illya's backstory, which I thought could be presented in one go, instead of placing parts of it in between the fight. There's also the Ever-Present Feeling remix - or lack thereof - which I'll be (unreasonably) sore on. A few frames look lazily done, though I would have to actually look for them, so I'm not too miffed there. Dolphin mana transfer, as predicted, was bad. But it wasn't like I was realistically expecting anything more. And of course, the constant Emiya 2015 teasing. Ufo pls, don't do this to me again, do you know how much I suffered? :V Anime-original scenes ranged from decent to "holy shit I love you ufo". Caster's Master's scenes were rather meh for me, but ufo made it up by giving us the Shinji scene, meido slaughter scene, and the entirety of Ep 25. What more could I ask for? People also shouldn't forget about how almost every scene is beautifully drawn in this anime. Just look at Fuyuki in Episode 0, or London in Episode 25. Or the Emiya Mansion or the Einzbern Castle. Or heck, anything. Some take it for granted that Ufotable would accomplish something like this, but I would take a step back, compare this to other anime, and take a minute to fully enjoy the effort that the animators have put into every frame. All in all, I'll give UBW an objective score of 9/10, but this is UBW. There's no room for "objective" scores for me. My enjoyment rating would be off the scales and through the roof. So, fittingly, I would give it a 10/10. Sure, it isn't the best thing since sliced bread (or Steins;Gate), but it's still bloody good. With that said, it certainly has raised the bar in terms of animation and CGI quality in anime. Thanks Ufotable, you crazy bastards. Thanks for this amazing anime. now hurry up and do HF already |
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gabrielrroiz said: calling fate zero edgy us one of the most patetic excuses the fate fandom uses to say ubw is better I call Fate/Zero edgy, and yet still like it a lot and think it's better than UBW. OT: I don't know. It sometimes bothers me, while in other cases I don't mind it or even like it. Many anime try to be smart about the gore and fail to do so (like Elfen Lied). Then it's definitely bad. But if it's just used in simple action, then it can be pretty cool. The bloody fights of Hellsing Ultimate are awesome. |
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