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Nov 29, 2015 1:27 PM
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What the fuck is this?

Trendy now is how shitty shows get away with being called shitty just for embracing it.

OPM, Stardust Crusaders, TTGL get away with being called shit just because they label themselves as parody/over the top.
If they are, which they aren't, they would be shitty at parodying/ being OTT.

This is very dodgy reasoning. You can't defend a series' flaws by saying the flaws were intentional. If something is meant to be a parody, it doesn't mean it can't be bad. It can still be bad at parodying. Or at being bizarre or over the top just as how many dramas fail at being dramatically effective.

Why do you think people use this reasoning is valid.
Discuss

Disclaimer, this is not aimed at the example shows mentioned earlier, and can apply to any show that gets defended for "having intended having flaws."
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Nov 29, 2015 1:28 PM
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This thread hasn't been created before?

OT: Jojo isn't supossed to be a parody. Many series had parodied Jojo, but Jojo itself, while funny, don't make fun of anything.
Nov 29, 2015 1:28 PM
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You already made this thread before Mikasa.
Nov 29, 2015 1:28 PM
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Fuck off already
Nov 29, 2015 1:29 PM
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hadn't you created a thread like this before?
Nov 29, 2015 1:29 PM
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you are too late, Mikasa. The Party is already over.
Nov 29, 2015 1:29 PM
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Again?
Nov 29, 2015 1:30 PM
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What kind of dweeb reuses their bait?
Nov 29, 2015 1:30 PM
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Klad said:
Fuck off already

I agree, mikasa sucks.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Nov 29, 2015 1:30 PM

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BaitOfJustice said:
This thread hasn't been created before?

OT: Jojo isn't supossed to be a parody. Many series had parodied Jojo, but Jojo itself, while funny, don't make fun of anything.


It was removed for being baiting, I was allowed to recreate it so long as I clarified it wasn't meant to diss the shows above and that they wre just examples, and to emphasize the main point I was trying to get at, which my wording probably failed to highlight in the last post.
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Nov 29, 2015 1:31 PM
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What kind of dweeb reuses their bait?
Nov 29, 2015 1:31 PM

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Deja Vu?
Nov 29, 2015 1:32 PM

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Mikasa said:
BaitOfJustice said:
This thread hasn't been created before?

OT: Jojo isn't supossed to be a parody. Many series had parodied Jojo, but Jojo itself, while funny, don't make fun of anything.


It was removed for being baiting, I was allowed to recreate it so long as I clarified it wasn't meant to diss the shows above and that they wre just examples, and to emphasize the main point I was trying to get at, which my wording probably failed to highlight in the last post.


Then your example is bad, as Jojo is not a parody of anything. OPM is a good example, though. Don't mistake over the top with parody.
Nov 29, 2015 1:32 PM

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they don't even try anymore...
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Randoll_ said:
Again?


yep again
Nov 29, 2015 1:32 PM

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Mikasa said:
BaitOfJustice said:
This thread hasn't been created before?

OT: Jojo isn't supossed to be a parody. Many series had parodied Jojo, but Jojo itself, while funny, don't make fun of anything.


It was removed for being baiting,
You never learn huh....
Nov 29, 2015 1:32 PM

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tr1ckst3r said:
You already made this thread before Mikasa.
Nov 29, 2015 1:33 PM

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Just because something is silly doesn't mean it's shit.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Nov 29, 2015 1:33 PM

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Jojo doesn't take itself seriously, but that doesn't make it a parody.
Nov 29, 2015 1:33 PM

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Gholy said:
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What kind of dweeb reuses their bait?
Nov 29, 2015 1:33 PM

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Wow deja vu
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tr1ckst3r said:
You already made this thread before Mikasa.
Nov 29, 2015 1:34 PM

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galimx said:
JoJo is not a parody. LOL. Educate yourself maybe a little. Eh.. One of this topics again. Whatever. Waste of time. Bye


But it is advertised as OTT, which it failed to be, so people criticize it and then some people defend its flaws by claiming they were supposed to be there.



BaitOfJustice said:
Mikasa said:


It was removed for being baiting, I was allowed to recreate it so long as I clarified it wasn't meant to diss the shows above and that they wre just examples, and to emphasize the main point I was trying to get at, which my wording probably failed to highlight in the last post.


Then your example is bad, as Jojo is not a parody of anything. OPM is a good example, though. Don't mistake over the top with parody.

So why do you believe people think parodies can't be bad parodies
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why i feel deja vu?
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Nov 29, 2015 1:37 PM

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Lum said:
Jojo doesn't take itself seriously, but that doesn't make it a parody.


JoJo was ab examplw of OTT, many claimed it failed to capture the same bizarreness of Battle Tendancy. When theyclaim that it is bad, fans say it's "OTT, that's the point"
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Nov 29, 2015 1:38 PM

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Mikasa said:
galimx said:
JoJo is not a parody. LOL. Educate yourself maybe a little. Eh.. One of this topics again. Whatever. Waste of time. Bye


But it is advertised as OTT, which it failed to be, so people criticize it and then some people defend its flaws by claiming they were supposed to be there.


Over the top =/= parody
Nov 29, 2015 1:39 PM

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But OPM is a 6/10 for the amazing animation and a 7/10 because it's actually pretty funny. It's not meant to be taken seriously. A bad parody would be something that isn't funny or relevant to what it is parodying.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Nov 29, 2015 1:39 PM

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OT: Even if the show is "supposed to be shit", that still makes it shit so... I don't understand that argument.
Nov 29, 2015 1:40 PM

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Nov 29, 2015 1:41 PM

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Mikasa said:
Lum said:
Jojo doesn't take itself seriously, but that doesn't make it a parody.


JoJo was ab examplw of OTT, many claimed it failed to capture the same bizarreness of Battle Tendancy. When theyclaim that it is bad, fans say it's "OTT, that's the point"
It isn't bad though. It's OTT in an entertaining way. There's nothing shit about it.
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BaitOfJustice said:
Mikasa said:


But it is advertised as OTT, which it failed to be, so people criticize it and then some people defend its flaws by claiming they were supposed to be there.


Over the top =/= parody


I know, but both words are used to defend a show's flaws.

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But OPM is a 6/10 for the amazing animation and a 7/10 because it's actually pretty funny. It's not meant to be taken seriously. A bad parody would be something that isn't funny or relevant to what it is parodying.


It's subjective whether it's a 7 or a 1. It's the reasoning that I feel is sneaky and not addressing the point

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OT: Even if the show is "supposed to be shit", that still makes it shit so... I don't understand that argument.


This is what I mean. A flaw can't be good just because the writer intended to make it bad.
If a writer wrote a plot hole intentionally just to create a plot hole, it's still bad writing.
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Lum said:
Mikasa said:


JoJo was ab examplw of OTT, many claimed it failed to capture the same bizarreness of Battle Tendancy. When theyclaim that it is bad, fans say it's "OTT, that's the point"
It isn't bad though. It's OTT in an entertaining way. There's nothing shit about it.


If you like it, good for you, just do not tell us to like it too "because it's meant to displease us"
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Nov 29, 2015 1:44 PM

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TTGL is not a parody, it's genuinely great.

Honestly, go troll and spread your shit taste somewhere else dude. You're getting boring, especially creating two of the same threads.
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There's a limit to how retarded one can be.
Who said a parody shows is supposed to be shit? No one.
A parody show is created for comedy purpose and a Parody show is supposed to be funny. If you thought it isn't funny enough then it's fair to called it shit.
And Parody=/=OTT.
And no one associates Parody and OTT, you're the only one do that.
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Nov 29, 2015 1:51 PM
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This thread is shit and so is OP
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galimx said:
Mikasa said:


If you like it, good for you, just do not tell us to like it too "because it's meant to displease us"

Ye, we get it. You dislike over the top and parody shows. Now, go back to your hole and troll there with your poor arguments.


BT was a great OT anime, it captured the bizarreness and was praised for it more than not.
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galimx said:
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BT was a great OT anime, it captured the bizarreness and was praised for it more than not.

And your point is?


I'm nit against ott, only against using the excuse "it's supposed to be bad" to defend bad ones.
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it's funny how mostly people that comment here is not OPM fans.
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Its funny when people know this is a bait but they still post on it anyways
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Nov 29, 2015 2:44 PM

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Nobody even knows what the fuck you're talking about. Being over the top isn't hard to begin with. It only means to apply logic very loosely while exaggerating/over dramatizing stuff, and you'd have to be fucking stupid (which I know you are OP) to not think Jojo TTGL fit the definition.

Now seriously fuck off. People will take your threads as bait no matter the content because of how you've applied yourself in the past.
Nov 29, 2015 2:45 PM

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lol..the second time is even funnier
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Parodies can be bad too.
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Nov 29, 2015 2:48 PM

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galimx said:
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I'm nit against ott, only against using the excuse "it's supposed to be bad" to defend bad ones.


What? Thats just in your head. I never saw someone use the excuse for JoJo "its supposed to be bad". Maybe they say "its supposed to be over the top". And over the top doesnt mean its bad. Everyone has different standards. The whole point of JoJo is the different generations of JoJo's and mixing up different themes and styles (from prison, to new york, to egypt, to western,...). Every part of JoJo is different, yet they are all over the top in a way with a lot of crazy poses. And like every JoJo part is different, so are people. Some prefer this part, others another part. A lot of people prefer part 2 - battle tendency over part 3 - stardust crusaders. Because part 3 is mostly episodic nature or you could say monster of the week formula. And most people prefer Joseph over Jotaro. You may find part 3 bad and part 2 good but thats just your personal preference. I hope you troll, because if you really think that, then your logic is really bad dude.



Yes. They say it's supposed to be ott, when people say something is bad that the defenders think is ott.

-I don't like how this scene played out.
-but it was supposed to plsy out like that
-yes but I don't like it.
-but... That's the point of the scene
-yeah and I don't like the point.
-then you don't get the point
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tr1ckst3r said:
You already made this thread before Mikasa.

Nov 29, 2015 2:59 PM

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This thread looks familiar.
Nov 29, 2015 2:59 PM

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Someone create an one Bait man meme.
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Someone create an one Bait man meme.
You're the kingofbait tho c;
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