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Jun 5, 2015 9:27 AM
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Oo, this episode was kinda intense.

Definitely nice to see Hermes Familia (I think their voices fits) make their appearances this episode in the dungeons. Plenty of action going down with the OST. I'm satisfied.

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I think I like Hermes the most from the group.
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Jun 5, 2015 10:04 AM
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I liked the fights in this episode. J.C Staff obviously did a good job once again.
Jun 5, 2015 10:58 AM
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Man, who woulda figured cute little bunnies could be so deadly? Seeing Hestia entering the dungeon should be good...
Jun 5, 2015 11:00 AM
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Wow lots of action. Love it!! Man poor bell and his group, they got monsters dumped on them and they are trapped. Hestia how has to save them with some help from Hermes. I wonder if HESTIA and Hermes have any powers?

The girl from the dinner looks really cool. Looking forward to the next episode for sure!!!
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Jun 5, 2015 11:00 AM
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Wow we were in lala land about to take a right onto sunshine road these last two episodes then boom! Shit hits the fan! And when it hits it hits hard! Great episode really felt the tension and the pressure. Fucking slut messing with bell-kun. I swear watch her do some magic and resurrect Goliath early....OMG that would be fucking intense. The wait begins.
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Jun 5, 2015 11:03 AM
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The minotaur scene reminded me a lot of SNK.
Oh god who are you people?
Jun 5, 2015 11:05 AM
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Bell doing all the work. Hope Hestia and the others find them soon.
Jun 5, 2015 11:07 AM
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Brings back memories when i was still playing MMO's, those guys that ran past you while being on the run where very annoying.
They are really one of the worst kind of players you can encounter.

And here it's even worse in the anime that is seeing as they can't simple respawn as they see fit.
I have to say that i am very interested in the group that's going to save them what kind of powers do the have and how will they fare.
Jun 5, 2015 11:08 AM
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Here comes Ryu , at long last. And Asufi too. Those too are awesome in fight, hope they'll animate them properly in the remaining episodes x].


-It's bell-sama.
-Yes, definitely bell.

->That recurring joke with that type of monster always make me laugh x).

As always, regretting that they aren't making the monsters look more dreadful. Hellhounds looks like normal wolves both in size and aspect.
Regretting we didn't see that heroic block from Mikoto right before the Pass Parade.

Outside of that, except that it still feels rushed (I thought it would slow down from no on, but didn't really felt that way)

We actually saw Naza Urusuisu for like 2 seconds when they were together in the church, she was right besides Miach. Didn't speak, though. That was her lass chance to appear properly in the anime. Such a interesting character, yet she never got a chance to show herself in the anime, truly a huge loss imo.

Outside of that, it was entertaining. I think the voices cast for all the new characters is fitting too. Hermes actually look better in the anime than the LN, I'd say.
Also, glad that the fire protection garments were mentioned properly as well as the fact that it was Eina who requested those, before going into dungeon scenes again.
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The middle floors were quite intriguing already, can't help but build some expectations for floor bosses and future floors.

Hearing about "pass parade" is really interesting, it just makes me think how there are probably a lot tactics out there. It actually becomes a little grim knowing how there would have had been victims and the people who slipped away surviving.

The formation of the search party, some members looks quite promising.

Bell with that heavy attack skill to kill a few minotaurs was amazing.
Jun 5, 2015 11:17 AM
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Well now we've actually surpassed the amount of content which is currently translated from the LNs so this is new to me as well for the first time. How about dem apples~

Anyways this really reminded me of some RPG gaming experiences of my own when you accidentally end up somewhere where you're really in over your head and desperately try to find a way back to safety. Pretty intruiguing really
Jun 5, 2015 11:27 AM

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Bell being boss again. And the search party begins its quest
Jun 5, 2015 11:36 AM

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Why is hestia wearing glasses? :3
Jun 5, 2015 11:40 AM
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Melcookie96 said:
Why is hestia wearing glasses? :3
To disguise herself? Gods aren't supposed to enter the dungeon after all, she's breaking the rules by entering
Jun 5, 2015 11:42 AM

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Bell's party sure got into a lot of trouble this time.... and those guys "helped" when they led the monsters near Bell and the others.

Hestia really wants to bring Bell back, she even formed a search party. Well, everything is probably going to be ok, I doubt something really bad will happen to them.

Bell really looked like Levi when he killed that minotaure, with all those spins. He even wore a cape like the Scouting Legion.
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HaXXspetten said:
Melcookie96 said:
Why is hestia wearing glasses? :3
To disguise herself? Gods aren't supposed to enter the dungeon after all, she's breaking the rules by entering


ohhh thats why o_o

thanks random person
Jun 5, 2015 11:53 AM

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Looks like Bell and the rest won't hold out much longer. I have a really bad feeling they're going to end up running into the floor boss Goliath.

I like Ryu's new outfit <3 I wonder what level she is?
Jun 5, 2015 11:55 AM

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Bell's second skill is pretty much damn OP, killing those minotaurs in just one blow.

Will the Hestia and her company reach Bell-kun's party before they reach the 18th floor or will Bell somehow have to fight against 17th floor's boss where that bitch of a goddess again is preparing just for him?

Anyway from what I heard, Bell have to face that Goliath sooner or later, then Bell will reach the next level again in a more impressive time. So that is something to look forward to.
Jun 5, 2015 11:55 AM

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Man, talk about a brutal difficulty curve. Also, Bell looked pretty badass after killing the minotaurs with that heavy weapon. He really hates those suckers doesn't he?
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Zefyris said:
Here comes Ryu , at long last. And Asufi too. Those too are awesome in fight, hope they'll animate them properly in the remaining episodes x].


-It's bell-sama.
-Yes, definitely bell.

->That recurring joke with that type of monster always make me laugh x).

As always, regretting that they aren't making the monsters look more dreadful. Hellhounds looks like normal wolves both in size and aspect.
Regretting we didn't see that heroic block from Mikoto right before the Pass Parade.

Outside of that, except that it still feels rushed (I thought it would slow down from no on, but didn't really felt that way)

We actually saw Naza Urusuisu for like 2 seconds when they were together in the church, she was right besides Miach. Didn't speak, though. That was her lass chance to appear properly in the anime. Such a interesting character, yet she never got a chance to show herself in the anime, truly a huge loss imo.

Outside of that, it was entertaining. I think the voices cast for all the new characters is fitting too. Hermes actually look better in the anime than the LN, I'd say.
Also, glad that the fire protection garments were mentioned properly as well as the fact that it was Eina who requested those, before going into dungeon scenes again.


Considering that Fire is pretty much the main elemental theme of the monsters down in the Level 2 Dungeon Areas, I was positive that they would go back to explaining the Salamander Cloaks for sure.

I'm glad that they introduced Take's Familia before entering the dungeon, and I somewhat sympathize for them.
It made me a bit mad at how Mikoto messed up by thinking that she would be able to carry the weaker members of her team and ended up being forced in that situation to bypass Bell's team for their own safety, and I keep on having to remind myself that they really had little choice at all (considering how only three of Mikoto's team were actually Floor 13 and below ready, and one of them was injured...). Still, I think Mikoto knows that she messed up, though it's not much consolation to Hestia. I've always been surprised at how calm Hestia can be in front of others during desperate situations.

The Usagi=Bell joke never gets old, and I'm really glad that they kept the stink pouch scene in the show as well.

Totally agree with your assessment of the Monster animations, I think I've complained about it before as well. They just don't look all that threatening to me.....

I'd always wondered how they would animate the Will O Wisp that Welf used. I'm a bit surprised here. It looked more like he used a strong draft of wind to blow the Hellhound's attack back into his body, which isn't exactly how it's suppose to work...

Been waiting for Ryu's appearance in the Dungeons for a long time now. Her and Asufi will be fun to watch.

They did the first two chapters of Vol. 5 here, that is to say they did kind of slow things down already. I'm expecting the Dungeon resort next week, then the buildup to the final battle in Episode 12, leaving SS Goliath and the epilogue for the last episode. I would consider this normal pacing already. It's kind of sad to think back and say that if they had 24 episodes, then the first 4 Volumes could have skipped a lot less things, and still be paced like it is now. We would have had so many more dungeon fights!

Welp.... hindsight is always 20/20. I can't wait to see the look on Bell's face when Hestia catches up to him XD
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Melcookie96 said:
HaXXspetten said:
To disguise herself? Gods aren't supposed to enter the dungeon after all, she's breaking the rules by entering


ohhh thats why o_o

thanks random person
I've been demoted to random person status now? ;__;
Jun 5, 2015 12:14 PM

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As an some one who enjoys fantasy games, I like the sense of peril within the dungeon.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jun 5, 2015 12:22 PM

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Bell's second skill is pretty much damn OP, killing those minotaurs in just one blow.

Yes, very OP. Now he'll have to drink potion to even be able to fight his next encounter since it drained most of its stamina and mind in one attack. It's incredibly powerful, but when you're inside a dungeon, that attack is almost suicidal, especially since they lost most of their potion when the ceiling collapsed.

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Will the Hestia and her company reach Bell-kun's party before they reach the 18th floor or will Bell somehow have to fight against 17th floor's boss where that bitch of a goddess again is preparing just for him?

Freiya has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bell's current situation. She isn't preparing anything, nor did she cause the current situation.


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It made me a bit mad at how Mikoto messed up by thinking that she would be able to carry the weaker members of her team and ended up being forced in that situation to bypass Bell's team for their own safety, and I keep on having to remind myself that they really had little choice at all (considering how only three of Mikoto's team were actually Floor 13 and below ready, and one of them was injured...). Still, I think Mikoto knows that she messed up, though it's not much consolation to Hestia. I've always been surprised at how calm Hestia can be in front of others during desperate situations.

What are you talking about? It's not Mikoto who messed up. Mikoto was against this, the Familia leader from takemikaduchi is Ouka (who is the most ancient level 2 in that familia, Mikoto is just a fresh level 2 from a few days/weeks before), not Mikoto, she didn't have a thing to do with it. Rather, she feels very bad for this happening even though she isn't directly responsible of Ouka's choice.


L-Ryoshi said:
I'd always wondered how they would animate the Will O Wisp that Welf used. I'm a bit surprised here. It looked more like he used a strong draft of wind to blow the Hellhound's attack back into his body, which isn't exactly how it's suppose to work...

I think it was ok somehow though, at least compared to monsters. Except the fact that the fire was shown being pushed back (on this point I agree, was a bit surprised to see them animating it that way), indeed, but the spell animation itself wasn't half bad. But then aghain, they never explained once the phenomenon of magic going berserk even though it was discussed multiple time in the LN. So right now, even if they say "it forces a Igni Fatuus on the enemy casting a spell" , this isn't going to explain anything to anime watchers x(.


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-snip- It's kind of sad to think back and say that if they had 24 episodes, then the first 4 Volumes could have skipped a lot less things, and still be paced like it is now. We would have had so many more dungeon fights!

Be careful about spoiler here.
But yes, it was deserving 24 episodes rather than 13 if they wanted to go that far.
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Jun 5, 2015 12:26 PM

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Awesome ep! It's nice to watch an ep without knowing what happens nxt this time since I haven't read vol5.

The despair is real! Really like how they're having to go down to the 18th level already :O
I really wonder if they really won't encounter Goliath ^^;

DAT Bell vs Minotaurs!!! FRIGGIN BA!! He REKT 4 in an instant O_o!!! HAX!! lol
And Welf's got quite the nice magic there too.

Really loved the scene when Take's familia kneeling to Hestia with the god rays. She deserves that much respect :P Liking Hermes quite a bit. He seems interesting. And Asfi with him seems quite cute <3 Ryuu joining the fray was awesome to see >.<!! The hype is real for this rescue mission!
Jun 5, 2015 12:27 PM
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If this is how the middle floors are, I shudder to think what things are like at the top levels.
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Jun 5, 2015 12:29 PM

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If this is how the middle floors are, I shudder to think what things are like at the top levels.

you mean the lower levels, since the upper levels are the levels bell was before. Remember, it goes down rather than up.
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This episode was insane. 5/5
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Nice fight scenes, especially the last one o.o Bell is a boss!

Hestia is stupid, just saying. Has she even thought that someone could betray her and tell that she was in the dungeon? -__-

Also Ryu looks sick!
Jun 5, 2015 12:33 PM

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Zefyris said:

L-Ryoshi said:
It made me a bit mad at how Mikoto messed up by thinking that she would be able to carry the weaker members of her team and ended up being forced in that situation to bypass Bell's team for their own safety, and I keep on having to remind myself that they really had little choice at all (considering how only three of Mikoto's team were actually Floor 13 and below ready, and one of them was injured...). Still, I think Mikoto knows that she messed up, though it's not much consolation to Hestia. I've always been surprised at how calm Hestia can be in front of others during desperate situations.

What are you talking about? It's not Mikoto who messed up. Mikoto was against this, the Familia leader from takemikaduchi is Ouka (who is the most ancient level 2 in that familia, Mikoto is just a fresh level 2 from a few days/weeks before), not Mikoto, she didn't have a thing to do with it. Rather, she feels very bad for this happening even though she isn't directly responsible of Ouka's choice.


L-Ryoshi said:
-snip- It's kind of sad to think back and say that if they had 24 episodes, then the first 4 Volumes could have skipped a lot less things, and still be paced like it is now. We would have had so many more dungeon fights!

Be careful about spoiler here.
But yes, it was deserving 24 episodes rather than 13 if they wanted to go that far.


I guess you're right about Mikoto and Ouka, I was unfairly grouping all of their Level 2s together under her name.
I still think she could have spoken up against Ouka's decision before they went down to those floors though. I'm still quite upset at Take's whole Familia for in Eina terms "Going on an Adventure". When we saw Bell do so, not once did he ever make trouble for other people, but this time, Take's adventurers did the exact opposite.

As for the spoilers, I don't really consider it much of a spoiler, both the Floor Boss name and the resort I mentioned came up in this episode already, so I think I'm safe ;)
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ninja + elf....
epic combo ^^b
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@L-Ryoshi
That's actually a huge spoiler if you think about it.

As for Takemikaduchi's family, if you think about it, this isn't their first time in the middle level AT ALL. If it was, they wouldn't have level 2. So they have been going to that level again and again, until Ouka leveled up, and then Mikoto leveled up, and they're still going now, for Chigusa and others to level up. They had a very bad luck with the ampount of monsters that came at them and Chigusa was badly hurt as the result, forcing them to run. Pass parade isn't rare in danmachi world. And most familia don't go to the other familia to apologize and help afterwards. I would say that it's actually Bell's group fault here, to adventure into middle level with such an underwhelming group.
Takemikaduchi's familia have a really high honour, that's why they ame to Hestia like this. Ouka choose to do a pass parade because he had under his responsibility the lives of his comrades and there was no other possibilities. I their was another choice, he would have took it instead.
Jun 5, 2015 12:42 PM

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I really enjoy this episode! It's nice to see a party working together.

I'm curious about Hermes, what he wants... Well, I'm waiting the next week!

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Brings back memories when i was still playing MMO's, those guys that ran past you while being on the run where very annoying.
They are really one of the worst kind of players you can encounter.


+1.
Jun 5, 2015 12:43 PM

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Sweet, they're back in the action, and Bell is once again in over his head. Loved the action, and i love how every time Bell faces off against a minotaur, he gets better and better. He whooped that minotaur ass this time for sure. I'm beginning to think minotaurs are his nemesis race.

Dammit, now i have to wait another week...
Jun 5, 2015 12:46 PM

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such a great series

Ninja Ryu at the end. i bet she used to be a higher level adventurer

the sound everytime hermes patted asufi haha


Hestia is bestia http://i.imgur.com/vMYUQKq.gifv



anyone know if the light novel was popular before the anime started?
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Great episode! 5/5. Wow Bell is awesome in this episode, that second skill really drained a lot of stamina huh.

I wonder why Gods are forbidden in the dungeon, too OP? That new God, Hermes, is a funny guy. I like how there's a *pop* sound when he put his hand on his subordinate.

I was expecting Aiz to come save Bell like she always does lol. Aiz saving Bell is almost always repeated that I thought she will come again.

Well next week gonna be awesome it seems. 2 Gods, lots of strong people, and that badass elf from bar.

Jun 5, 2015 12:52 PM

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idk if i missed something, but couldn't they have used that stink sack to go back up the dungeon? whatever. at least we get to see ryu in action.
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xSanox said:



anyone know if the light novel was popular before the anime started?

Yes, it was selling very very well for a LN series.

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idk if i missed something, but couldn't they have used that stink sack to go back up the dungeon? whatever. at least we get to see ryu in action.

I'll explain that. They fell through 2 levels by a hole, meaning they have no idea of where they are in that specific level. Dungeon levels, especially the maze like ones, are almost impossible to find back your way without turning around for hours, because they are gigantic (by gigantic, I mean that even if you know where you are and know the map, it would take several hours to go from one side to another)and full of dead ends. There is only one place with stairs up, but those levels have a lot of holes going to the lower levels. Meaning than rather than trying to find the stairs, there is far more hope in finding holes.

They lost most of their equipment, including most of their potions when the celling fell and when afterwards they fell themselves 2 levels lower. They're wounded, and starting to reach their limits both in mind and stamina. There's no way they can hope getting out from the level 15 and then the level 14 if they search the stairs.


It wasn't very well explained in the anime, but Lili's way of thinking is seriously something else. She came up with a very bold and courageous idea than most adventurers in this situation wouldn't have thought about , let alone dared to suggest to their party member and apply it.

Lili is truly the coordinator of the group, and the brain. She's one hell of a supporter.
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Zefyris said:
xSanox said:



anyone know if the light novel was popular before the anime started?

Yes, it was selling very very well for a LN series.



makes it even more questionable why they decided to only make a 13 episode series and are rushing through the content

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Leeeeroooooyyyyyyy Jenkinnnnssss!!!
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xSanox said:
Zefyris said:

Yes, it was selling very very well for a LN series.



makes it even more questionable why they decided to only make a 13 episode series and are rushing through the content



Lots of Light Novel anime adaptations are rushed. Oregairu, arguably one of the best selling LN, recently have their episode being rushed.

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Bell's party sure has a lot of troubles.
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This episode made me remember my MMO times... they lure monsters and bring them to us thus killing all of our PT members..... d*ck move.
Bell continues to be badass! J.C staff is really pulling out the budget eh!!
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Who was that ninja girl at the end?
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Who was that ninja girl at the end?


Ryu the elf maid

Jun 5, 2015 1:19 PM

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hermes the rebel lol

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Jun 5, 2015 1:25 PM

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Hestia got a nice party. Though I think Bell can handle everything by himself
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Hestia got a nice party. Though I think Bell can handle everything by himself
He would already be dead without Lili and Welf by now...
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Pretty intense episode.

Hestia really did look like a goddess with that light behind her :P

Wow Bell wrecked those Minataurs!
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idk if i missed something, but couldn't they have used that stink sack to go back up the dungeon? whatever. at least we get to see ryu in action.


Nice to know I'm not the only one that thought it was kinda dumb how they did that. They use it going down when they could have used it going back up. Now, from my understanding, once they get saved by the others they will have to go back through all the levels anyway to get out while still being wounded.
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