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Jan 2, 2015 9:10 AM
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Personally, I really like the studio and it seems like it's the most loved studio in the west. I mean, here on mal, whenever it's announced that a manga will be adapted into an anime, at least half of the replies are about people hoping for Madhouse to be the studio in charge of that. It also had an overwhelming victory in the best studio poll. Madhouse has also made very popular anime series or movies in the west like Death Note, Ngnl, Redline, Wolf Children etc and some semi popular but highly rated shows like Monster, HxH 2011, Hajime no Ippo and this season's Parasyte etc.

Japan doesn't seem to share this sentiment since in most japanese polls it's not highly ranked and it's best selling titles (Death Note and Cardcaptor Sakura) don't really have very impressive sales compared to other studios. There are also many westeners who believe that it is wanked but in fact produces just one good sghow in a stream of average to atrocious ones.

Personally, I feel like Madhouse really deserves all it's love, since from what I've heard and seen, they almost always adapt their shows well, have produced some of my favourites, produce a wide variety of shows thereby giving their chances to less popular titles to get anime adaptations instead of milking already popular frachises and whenever they produce bad shows, it's generally due to source material itself being bad.

So, what do you think? Is Madhouse overrated in the west or does it deserve it's love? Why is it less popular in Japan? Has it ever screwed up a show where viewers had high expectations (like Pierrot did to TG)?

Edit: I hope that this thread isn't against the rules. I know that OR/UR threads are forbidden when it comes to series but I don't think the mods have forbidden them otherwise.
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Jan 2, 2015 9:11 AM
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What the fuck you saying m8?
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Jan 2, 2015 9:13 AM
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Madhouse deserves all it's love, they produce a variety of great shows, and they produced some of my favorite series.
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Jan 2, 2015 9:14 AM
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They're good, but one big problem with them is they usually only complete their popular and selling animes.

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Don't really care which animation studio is involved in a show.
Toei and Deen are right for you m8
Jan 2, 2015 9:15 AM
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The only bad show I've watched that Mad House did was Mahou Sensou, but they still had great voice actors, the show was just to short and I didn't like the main character and that girl with black hair(Mui?)

So I don't think they are over rated 'cause they have made many of my favourite anime.
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Jan 2, 2015 9:15 AM
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yea I think they are. Most of the praise comes from HxH 2011 fans who haven't watched many of their other shows.

They have produced some shit over the years but overall they are decent
Jan 2, 2015 9:22 AM
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Toei >> madhouse
Jan 2, 2015 9:22 AM
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Yes.
Jan 2, 2015 9:27 AM
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Madhouse deserves all it's love.

As far as I see, they rarely screw up with good source material, all their original shows are good to great and even their bad shows are atleast watchable (although the source material is at fault, mostly).

Simply, a top tier studio.

MAPPA, madhouse' spiritual successor, also releases good titles.

P.s. I ACCIDENTLY VOTED FOR YES. Fml
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Jan 2, 2015 9:29 AM
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So long anything is popular it will also be overrated.
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Jan 2, 2015 9:29 AM

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madhouse isnt consistent but their hits make them the best out there, they also make some of the most out there and unique shows that no other studio would bother with

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 2, 2015 9:31 AM

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PriestSlayer said:
Madhouse deserves all it's love, they produce a variety of great shows, and they produced some of my favorite series.


Basically this. I usually prefer their adaptations to the source material, Ippo, Hellsing and HxH are especially godlike.
Jan 2, 2015 9:34 AM
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Well, what Madhouse really has going for it (at least up to 2010) is, that they give everything a chance, even really obscure shows.
Also most of their animation looks at least good, more often than not better than that. So no, not overrated imo.
Jan 2, 2015 9:34 AM

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JizzyHitler said:
madhouse isnt consistent but their hits make them the best out there, they also make some of the most out there and unique shows that no other studio would bother with
Exactly, this is one of the reason why I like them so much. I mean, just look at Sunrise and their obsession with mechas like Gundam that they endlessly milk while gems are waiting somewhere (not a bad studio though)
Jan 2, 2015 9:38 AM

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yea I think they are. Most of the praise comes from HxH 2011 fans who haven't watched many of their other shows.

They have produced some shit over the years but overall they are decent
Those shit shows you're talking about, did you find their source materials good making Madhouse the one to be blamed? Mind giving examples please?
Jan 2, 2015 9:38 AM

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Take a look at Hunter x Hunter

Now take a look at other Animes

Now back to Hunter x Hunter

Now back to other animes

They are not Hunter x Hunter

I'm flipping you off

Now look at the topic name

Now back to Madhouse

Now where's the best anime studio award?

It's with fucking Madhouse


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Jan 2, 2015 9:40 AM

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Deen>>>>>>>>>Madhouse all the way, man.
Jan 2, 2015 9:43 AM

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The things they produce have high quality overall, so I wouldn't call them overrated.
Jan 2, 2015 9:44 AM
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No, they deserve all love it gets.
Jan 2, 2015 9:46 AM

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Yes its extremely overrated. And I really don't see why
Jan 2, 2015 9:51 AM

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When Madhouse gets things right, they usually hit the ball out of the park. Besides, no one's record is spotless.
Jan 2, 2015 9:53 AM

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M8 is u serious
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Jan 2, 2015 9:56 AM

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Madhouse is not the best studio.
Jan 2, 2015 9:56 AM

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M8 is u serious
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Jan 2, 2015 9:59 AM

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No, I don't think so. Sure, they made a lot shitty shows but the amount of good/very good/masterpiece content totally overshadows the bad ones.

I think their strength is in doing a variety of shows with very decent animation and art ( which happens to be my favorite and prefered art out of all studios ).
Jan 2, 2015 9:59 AM

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Mahou sensou is so shitty that it cancels out their other great works for years to come :(
Jan 2, 2015 10:00 AM

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ichii_1 said:
Mahou sensou is so shitty that it cancels out their other great works for years to come :(

Madhouse's best works easily overshadow their shit shows. Just look at the number of shows they made. I don't know if there are many other studios that has done so many anime.
Jan 2, 2015 10:02 AM

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They're just good, not overrated.
Jan 2, 2015 10:08 AM
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No, they deserve all the praise.
Jan 2, 2015 10:09 AM

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2 guud 4 u

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What the fuck you saying m8?
Jan 2, 2015 10:10 AM

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They made Mahou Sensou.
Jan 2, 2015 10:17 AM

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NOPE, don't think Madhouse is overrated at all.
Jan 2, 2015 10:22 AM

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P.s. I ACCIDENTLY VOTED FOR YES. Fml
Freudian slip. You actually hate them.


y u do dis ;_;
Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse.

Now take a look at Berserk (2016).

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Jan 2, 2015 10:27 AM

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Still waiting for Dream Machine.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

Jan 2, 2015 10:31 AM

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Yeah, Mahou Sensou was reealy suck(even with that quite good ED), If i only look on anime perspective, then i strongly agree on that. But if i consider the source material too, i just think it can't be helped, because the source are bad too. The mistake was MadHouse animated that series, it's not that MadHouse animated it badly.
Jan 2, 2015 10:57 AM
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The only reason why it's not considered good in Japan is because only the basement dwelling otakus watch anime over there and Madhouse doesn't produce their precious generic ecchii light novel adaptions full of pandering so they can escape their shitty life. (Except NGNL)
The anime industry is dead, the otaku fanbase killed it.
Jan 2, 2015 11:00 AM

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No
Jan 2, 2015 11:00 AM

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Well I've seen HXH/Parasyte/Btooom!/Black Lagoon/No Game No Life and I love them! Good job madhouse
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Jan 2, 2015 11:13 AM
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no game no life, hxh, mahouka, mahou sensou
Jan 2, 2015 11:15 AM

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they've made a lot of great shows, so they definitely deserve the praise they get. :>
Jan 2, 2015 11:27 AM

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JizzyHitler said:
madhouse isnt consistent

tell me one studio that is. MAPPA would be a good contender, but they slipped up big time with Terror in Resonance
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gedata said:
JizzyHitler said:
madhouse isnt consistent

tell me one studio that is. MAPPA would be a good contender, but they slipped up big time with Terror in Resonance


MAPPA has only made 2 shows above 7.0, and one of them is terror in resonance
how casual are you?
Jan 2, 2015 11:31 AM

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Considering the crap they put up in 2014 I would say they are losing some of their well-founded goodwill.
I sometimes watch chinese cartoons/stuff and share unsolicited opinions.
Jan 2, 2015 11:31 AM

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You don't have to look at poles to judge if an studio is good or not, for me Madhouse is one of the best, just look of how well they adapted HxH , and i'm not just talking about being faithful to the source also the animation, OST and overall synergy of all these elements.
The best example is ep. 131 of HxH (i know this is an obvious example, but it's specimen of their work).
Now imagine BONES is the studio that animated HxH ... that would have been a train wreck :3
Jan 2, 2015 11:32 AM

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amateur said:
Considering the crap they put up in 2014 I would say they are losing some of their well-founded goodwill.


its because all their talent left and went to mappa
Jan 2, 2015 11:32 AM

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amateur said:
Considering the crap they put up in 2014 I would say they are losing some of their well-founded goodwill.
Parasyte might redeem them again.
Jan 2, 2015 11:40 AM

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Lancehot said:
Don't really care which animation studio is involved in a show.
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Jan 2, 2015 11:46 AM

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They made Kaiji, so they're underrated actually.
Jan 2, 2015 11:49 AM

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SolviteWoTaberu said:
amateur said:
Considering the crap they put up in 2014 I would say they are losing some of their well-founded goodwill.


its because all their talent left and went to mappa

If the ones who made mahou sensou went there, mappa will will be closed in 2 years tops.
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JizzyHitler said:
madhouse isnt consistent but their hits make them the best out there, they also make some of the most out there and unique shows that no other studio would bother with
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