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| I've just finished the first episode. It was very good actually. It seems that it follows the same basic premise of the original work, but the events will be entirely different. I only wish they hadn't removed Milly from the story 😢 |
justhuman22 said: That's more of your problem and it's really nitpicking. What difference does it make? Nothing's fully removed or changed. It's just that this new adaptation chose a different sequential order of revealing things. Well, at least you ain't one of those people who blindly hate CGI to no tomorrow even though it's far better than what's expected plus some really polished background and actions sequences. The writing for this episode was so bad. The characters don’t feel like themselves. They revealed everything so quickly in this first episode instead of having it be more of a slow burn. I preferred the way the original story did it where you didn’t know they were on an alien planet right away, that you didn’t learn that he had a robotic arm until later as a plot point, and no one praised him as a town hero until after you see him save a town. I liked Meryl being very confident and sure of herself and hot headed and taking charge of things. Don’t like how she is portrayed here. I did not like this. I wish they did this show better. |
KarmaKop217 said: I second this. this doesn't look OK it's looks GREAT I might say This looks way better than expected, and i like it more than the original.Cgi looks great, as expected from studio orange. I prefer this new character design over the 90s generic one. Also, op and music is great too. And most important Meryl looks so cute :> |
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| As expected orange never disappoints . Dynamic action storyboards utilising the full potential of 3d cg , I hope we get more gun action that flows as well as this ep . That being said this is 100% a different route than the og , what with the introduction of his knives and and vash's past this early on . I am interested to see how the story enfolds , as the og didn't have the greatest of stories and was easily forgettable as any other shounen . Not having Millie is sucha minus tho , she was one of the few fun side characters . I hated mryl or whatever the fuck her name is , was so useless and annoying . Can't wait for my priest to arrive . |
| I'm not sure why they those to remake Trigun out of all things, but it's not bad at the least. They completely switched around the order of events of the original. If I recall, Knives wasn't introduced until much later in the show in the original. The only thing I can complain about the CG is that the color palette isn't as vivid. Vash was deep red in the original. Here, he's almost magenta. I also don't know why the subbers translated July as "JuLai", as if they're not familiar with the source. I'm anticipating the all the whining about the CGI from 2D purists though. We had to live through this once in the late 90s when cel animation gave way to digital. It's a rehash of the same argument: Traditionalists who can't adapt to the new age. If you guys have seen the new Unreal Engine 5.1 features, you'd notice that they're developing 2D styled art using 3D models. That's just the direction the industry will move to because certain things like high action perspective shots will be way easier to do. You guys all trashed the Berserk OVA's which were alright in my book. You guys trashed donghua like King's Avatar which had a hybrid 2D/3D style. Now that there's a mainstream work on the horizon, I can't wait until all the in-fighting between anime elitists. I'll be grabbing my popcorn. |
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| Why would one use a .22LR revolver when better calibers exist? Also why make it a Chiappa Rhino system when .22 doesn't kick all that much? |
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| I'm not sure I'm going to be able to stick around for this. The CG doesn't even bother me that much, although the audio often seems out of sync with the mouth flaps. Maybe there will even be good reasons for changing some things around, like Meryl's job. But what was the point in changing the amount of the bounty? That was just weird. This felt like an OVA. One late-stage reveal after another. Where is this even going to go? Obviously there was a lot from the manga that wasn't ever animated, is this just going to be that? Right now it feels like the audience is being deprived of some truly important character development that makes later events more satisfying to watch. This isn't even a retelling, it's a complete re-imagining. It's not a "based on," it's an "inspired by." I hope anyone discovering Trigun for the first time is interested enough to pick up the manga. As for me, this was a very very hard watch. |
| What an episode! Beautiful CGI, awesome direction, and I can already say I like the main cast. I can't wait to see the next episode. MahoShojoEnjoyer said: definitely exceeded my expectations. Same! I expected nice looking show with action, but these elements - even though they were gorgeous - did not end up as the most important things that made me hooked to this show. |
| As expected of Studio Orange, the CGI is really good. However, seeing good old Vash in this new style feels strange, to say the least. It will probably take me a few more episodes to get used to it. |
minix_animade said: Just because something was done slower back in the day doesn't make it inherently inferior, because at the end of the day it was still at one time a commercial product and everyone got paid. It's really sad to see cel anime completely obliterated off the face of the earth. Again I don't hate CG anime, but I do hate how cel anime just doesn't get made anymore. I'm not saying budget choices don't happen or that needing to cut corners sometimes isn't inevitable, but I don't like this "give up" mentality either. Some people just don't even care. The same arguments were used back in a day by Westerners, when digital 2D animation was getting more popular. "Soulless, cheap looking, making anime turn from a work of art into poor looking product". And yet here we are - anime is still alive, and hand-drawn animation is romanticized only by some of anime veterans. I'm not saying you belong to that kind of people or to digital 2D animation enthusiasts, but what I'm saying is that it's a matter of getting used to certain technique to tolerate it, because the technique alone is not at fault. It feels nostalgic to see people putting next to each other two frames: one with sakuga digital 2D, and another one with bad looking CGI. Same thing happened long ago, when people liked to spam with frames taken from awesome looking movies or exceptionally well animated shows, and compare them with one of early, quite mediocre looking done in digital 2D technique (surprise - just as in CGI's case, it wasn't like everything looked top-notch right away). It's another example of "old gud, new bad" mindset. At least it was like that in most of cases I saw myself. Y'know, people who whined about a sequence featuring CGI that had lasted few seconds at most, lol. |
| If only Studio Orange CGI was the standard for CGI. It's definitely weird seeing this after watching the original but I think I'm going to enjoy this a lot. |
the cg may be good but I am not a fan of the character design, not my taste |
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| The only thing I dislike about the animation is the constant change in framerate. They should've just animated the entire show at 15 fps in they can't do it at 24. I love the colours and lighting. However, the biggest issue is the story. In one episode, you learn stuff from about 10 episodes of the original anime. It's rushed, and feels extremely unnatural |
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| Ppl still crying about the cgi damn. Shouldnt you guys already accept cgi at this point..! And it doesn’t even look bad. It looks beautiful! |
| This was a refreshing Vash Stampede!!! That End Card Illustation was stunningly beautiful! 5/5. |
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| That was amazing. I'm not fond of the change in Meryl's occupation, the absence of Milly (so far), or the change in voice actors, but everything else about watching this was incredible. Btw, some of you really should rip off those rose-tinted glasses that are glued on to your faces. I watched the original anime for the first time last month to prepare for this series and I felt that show was heavily flawed in many ways. The animation was ugly for the most part. Cowboy Bebop and Trigun aired around the same time and the difference in quality between the two is massive. Bebop is still beautiful to this day, whereas Trigun is populated by really ugly scenes and stuff that is barely animated. Here's a bunch of still frames with sound effects and music! Wow, cool. The story is a mess. It takes 17 episodes before the main story line kicks off, and the series resolution is incredibly weak. The only strong aspects of the original are the Western concept, characters, and the voice acting. justhuman22 said: That's one of the worst aspects of the original series. For the first 16 episodes of that show it was just a repetitive enemy of the week story that built up to nothing. Vash solves random town's problem and then moves on to the next town with no to very little narrative link between each episode. There was no "slow burn." Then episode 17 happens and the final 10 episodes are about Vash and Knives. And despite me preferring how Knives was depicted in the original (at least so far), I appreciate that they introduced him early because hopefully this means we get more of him on the show. He had very little screen time in the original when you think about it.The writing for this episode was so bad. The characters don’t feel like themselves. They revealed everything so quickly in this first episode instead of having it be more of a slow burn. I preferred the way the original story did it where you didn’t know they were on an alien planet right away, that you didn’t learn that he had a robotic arm until later as a plot point, and no one praised him as a town hero until after you see him save a town. I liked Meryl being very confident and sure of herself and hot headed and taking charge of things. Don’t like how she is portrayed here. I did not like this. I wish they did this show better. |
| The OG Trigun was absolutely silly in a lot of places. This one is very pretty, but I'm not sure they know where the line between "silly" and "dumb" is. I definitely don't hate it, but I have to reserve judgement for now. |
| Oh... this is some damn ugly CG. It reminds me of the crap Hollywood is churning out in spades every year. At this point I don't even know if it's still Pixar making them, since it feels like there's another one popping out every month. Rem pointlessly dying at the start, when she had ample time to get in the pod, just to make the scene melodramatic and people talking in expositions, doesn't bode well for writing either. Not to mention giving out Vash's origin right away, which was a mystery for most of the original. Having Matsuoka voice him is another awful choice. I'd rather watch the old one again and I don't even feel particularly nostalgic about it. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| I didn't watch the original so here's for my first trigun experience! I saw a few clips that showed off the CGI from the fight scene and was impressed enough to check this out, and it's as good as it seemed to be. I really like the light and over-the-top tone the show presents so far. Vash reminds me of Gojo lol. His voice is nice too Wow that ending song was great! EDIT: Some comments above don't seem to know that STAMPEDE isn't trying to copy-paste the original... it's a reboot/reimagination according to the author. So there's really no point in saying that some aspect that got changed is already BAD when the show just began. Nobody knows which way this will go. |
JedanKomadJan 8, 2023 5:16 AM
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| This premiere was fantastic. The art direction and backgrounds in general looks gorgeous & the CGI consistency is great as expected by Studio Orange. I am already enjoying the characters, tone, and the setting quite a bit and this episode does a splendid job at establishing them. Sound design is awesome, the music in general is great and it is pretty inticing already because of its overall flair, it is just so fun to watch. I already see the potential and I can't wait to see what's next. Haven't seen the original trigun, even if I have I don't think it would have changed my thoughts on this episode. |
Zed-NJan 8, 2023 5:39 AM
| I liked the look but very weird choices with the story. I don't understand why they invented a new male mc and removed Milly. She had one of the most memorable scenes in the original show and I loved her chemistry with Wolfwood. |
JdT77 said: It's literally reimagined for a less modern audience though. Replaced one of the two female MCs with a gruff older guy character and made the other female MC take a backseat as an ignorant newbie This isn't your old pappy's Trigun. It's Trigun reimagined for a MODERN AUDIENCE. |
minix_animade said: You don't sound old, you sound like those kids under classic rock songs on Youtube talking about how all new music is trash and none of their peers have any taste. Good looking shows will always exist and will always stand out from the generic trash, it doesn't matter what technique they use as long as they have passion for what they do. I'm not advocating for a return to the stone age, but by God, 1998 was freaking 24 years ago, not 1,000. I sound like I'm fuckin' 65 but I was born barely even two decades ago. Of course the natural response is "get over it", which, fair enough I guess. But again, where will the line be drawn? If the future of anime is say, cheap shitty scribbles of generic deviantart OC equivalent characters fighting each other made in 5 seconds by artificial intelligence, I genuinely wonder if the general populace would even care as long as their waifu is in it. |
| Lol what... People are blind af. As a person who has, EYES I thought this looked really damn good. You rarely see 3d anime this good of a quality other than in ufotable works or other orange studio works. I have not seen the original trigun so maybe the 2d of that is phenomenal, which is why some people are complaining, but you have got to have some REALLY bad eyes to tell me that THAT didn't look good. Other than that, the only criticism so far that I can agree on is Vash's design. From the looks of it, yeah I definitely agree. His old spiky hair look definitely looked so much better. |
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| It's very odd that they started this episode with the ships falling, since... We have no backstory, so there's no emotional weight for anyone seeing this for the first time. But if you already know the story from the original anime, it also doesn't really resonate because these are different characters from the ones we know (one of them is Nai now). I kind of wish they didn't even go into this part of the story unless they were willing to go into everything. A slight misstep imo Hmm, everyone seems to be concerned about the art decisions.. It looks fine edit: wait, is his name written in katakana in japanese? the wiki says his name in the original was ナイブズ, so it's... Naibuzu? |
FragOutFireJan 8, 2023 7:43 AM
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| the CG among other things make this an eyesore, hard pass. -5/10 |
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