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Sep 14, 2022 5:37 PM

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Speaking from experience, it depends what mod you get....... A lot of them are ass backwards. Each and everyone of them has their own definition of "anime" or "what deserves to be on MAL". I've submitted many edits, and used to submit a lot of old school anime, characters and pics to go with the old school animes I tried to put on here. One mod will say somethin beyond stupid like "For X and XX reason it doesnt need to be on here because of X" and another will just okay it and say thanks for adding what we are missing.
Even so far as fixing a misplaced pic, or changing a sequel to an adaption or something like that gets denied when its absolute truth cause they don't wanna believe it themselves or research it after I did all of the research for them.

I legit gave up giving community edits and shit.
Sep 14, 2022 8:46 PM

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Seitaro11 said:
adffeaf said:


You already refuted your argument by saying Afro Samurai is anime and it obviously has Japanese dub. It's adapted from a doujinshi manga after all.


It doesn't have one. You can easily check it if you browse the cast for Afro Samurai on MAL. And source material doesn't matter at all.


But it still satisfies the criteria of aiming towards the japanese audience, even with no Japanese dub.
The original show was TV broadcasted on Wowow.
It used to have a Japanese anime site, although now archived. You can find it on the wayback machine.
[ https://web.archive.org/web/20070103000000*/http://www.afrosamurai.jp]
Sep 15, 2022 2:57 AM

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But anime is literally Japanese cartoon, what are you talking about

Some people are delusional and think that calling Japanese animation as anime by people from outside of Japan will magically make Japanese people think that their own word to describe animation should have its meaning changed in Japanese languege, lol.

My thoughts exactly .Couldn't have said it better
Sep 15, 2022 3:57 AM

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here is your answer sir
Sep 15, 2022 12:18 PM

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This whole thing of being intended for a Japanese (or whatever) audience is pretty subjective and stupid in my opinion. Yes, you can argue that something can be aimed at a certain kind of audience or whatever based on what language it comes out in or where it's released first, but primarily the anime industry is a business and their shows are meant to be successful, not to cater to someone's culture or sensibility. A lot of Studio Ghibli films for example are given wide releases in the west by big companies, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that Studio Ghibli made their films without at least in part considering audience outside of Japan. Disney and other Western animation is also pretty popular in Japan, to a similar degree that Japanese anime is popular in the United States (source: https://scholarworks.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5856&context=etd).

I don't blame MAL for the definition they've adopted, as you have to draw the line somewhere, but I do think this definition is nowhere near as objective as some think it is, hence all the confusion.
Sep 15, 2022 7:43 PM

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mkyiu said:
a better question would be where is Arcane
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hmm, just because !
Sep 16, 2022 12:02 AM
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Pingu is considered an anime according to mal don't question it
Sep 16, 2022 2:53 AM

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mods pretending they don't see this thread
Sep 16, 2022 4:35 AM

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Siana_chan said:
Cartoon =/= anime


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Sep 16, 2022 4:46 AM
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EndlessMaria said:
Why are MAL database mods such hypocrites?

don't know don't take it too seriously tho
Sep 16, 2022 4:59 AM

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Siana_chan said:
Cartoon =/= anime

^Based and truth.^

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Sep 16, 2022 6:01 AM
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because rick and morty is american animated show and cyberpunk is japanese
Sep 16, 2022 8:10 AM

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https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101
Check this first and see if Rick and Morty follow whatever is in section I.

But Rick and Morty is a strange case because I still believe it should technically be in the database. But when I asked for mods to look back on it (I also provided many reasons and evidence as to why it should be allowed), the response I got was:
MAL Admin said:
So long story short, the main reason Samurai & Shogun wasn't accepted is because the special is not available on Netflix Japan. There's not enough focus towards the markets mentioned in our guidelines.



Regardless, what's the matter with Cyberpunk being in here? Hurts no one lol. ppl seem to like this too.
Sep 16, 2022 8:49 AM

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At this point I think the MAL mods are just fucking with you specifically since you're the only one who's constantly complaining about it.

This is my headcanon on MAL lore now and I find it hilarious.
Sep 16, 2022 9:43 AM
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Bhavya7 said:
because rick and morty is american animated show and cyberpunk is japanese


I believe the OP was referring to "Studio Deen' version of Rick and Morty which I haven't seen or heard but i'm guessing it's a spin off animated by Studio Deen or something like this. Don't quote me on it I don't even watch rick & morty

But we had the same issue a while back with the anime called "The Red Turtle" even though studio ghibli was involved they refused to add it to MAL database. I'd recommend searching for that old thread about The Red Turtle because they explained why they didn't add it to the database which should be relevant to this too
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Sep 16, 2022 11:21 AM
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Johan said:
Your first mistake was expecting consistency from MAL's DB Admins. They're worthless, and i wish the worst on them.


this is becoming increasingly more obvious
Sep 16, 2022 12:03 PM

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Because the studio Deen's Rick and Morty is a short. So it doesn't count. And it's American-based.
While Cyberpunk: Edgerunner is a full fledged show. Japanese-Based.


Sep 16, 2022 5:01 PM

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Johan said:
Your first mistake was expecting consistency from MAL's DB Admins. They're worthless, and i wish the worst on them.


this is becoming increasingly more obvious


I'm considering writing a very detailed post about all the problems with MAL's DB admins and what needs to be done to fix it up. Unfortunately itll probably mean i get banned again, or theyll just delete the entire thread and pretend it never happened.



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Sep 20, 2022 5:15 PM
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NextUniverse said:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101
Check this first and see if Rick and Morty follow whatever is in section I.

But Rick and Morty is a strange case because I still believe it should technically be in the database. But when I asked for mods to look back on it (I also provided many reasons and evidence as to why it should be allowed), the response I got was:
MAL Admin said:
So long story short, the main reason Samurai & Shogun wasn't accepted is because the special is not available on Netflix Japan. There's not enough focus towards the markets mentioned in our guidelines.



Regardless, what's the matter with Cyberpunk being in here? Hurts no one lol. ppl seem to like this too.

The point about Netflix makes no sense, since it's a YouTube short - I don't think these were ever streaming over there. The Japanese website for Studio Deen has a page mentioning the short and providing updates when it hit certain view count milestones. https://www.deen.co.jp/works/ram
And Deen Digital posted an announcement, with a video link, the very day it was uploaded: https://www.deendigital.com/2020/03/30/rick-and-morty-samurai-shogun%e3%80%80%e5%85%ac%e9%96%8b%e3%81%95%e3%82%8c%e3%81%be%e3%81%97%e3%81%9f/
It is very debatable if an audience should be inferred based on the channel's country of origin if the video is accessible to everyone. Just browse the YouTube comments and you will see some from Japanese accounts.

Additional Japanese notices of the short:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3#%E3%82%B9%E3%83%94%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AA%E3%83%95%E4%BD%9C%E5%93%81
https://kai-you.net/article/80039
https://www.drive-music.jp/music/works/rick-and-morty
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MAL is very inconsistent when it comes to adding titles.
Chalk it up to a personal bias on their behalf.
Sep 21, 2022 1:11 AM

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What a clown, bait post to call the attention. Anyways, maybe they are arbitrary in what they consider or not anime and to them, that trashy Rick and Morty anime isnt good enough or doesnt comply all the requeriments to be here.
Sep 21, 2022 1:43 AM

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Rick and Morty doesn't have a loli. Cyberpunk does.
Sep 21, 2022 2:59 AM
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EndlessMaria said:
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i got no idea maybe post this thread on the anime database section

I already did and I was told that Studio Deen's Rick and Morty isn't allowed on MAL because the target audience isn't Japanese. This is the actual reason they gave me, and I have brought up this hypocrisy many times with the database staff and I get ignored every time. Yet The Animatrix, so many Marvel adaptions, the Halo OVAs, and now this shit is allowed. MAL has no standards at all.

"This shit" ??....you better watch the show before calling it shit.....it is on of the best anime in this year
Sep 21, 2022 11:50 PM

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A nice dose of hypocrisy goes a long way. Good job MAL, I'm not being sarcastic either.
Sep 22, 2022 5:10 AM

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Siana_chan said:
Cartoon =/= anime
The Rick and Morty short was literally animated by Studio Deen, a Japanese studio, what are you talking about?

It's hard to win an argument against smart people, but impossible to win an argument against dumb ones.
Sep 22, 2022 5:31 AM

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Xenophon01 said:
What a clown, bait post to call the attention. Anyways, maybe they are arbitrary in what they consider or not anime and to them, that trashy Rick and Morty anime isnt good enough or doesnt comply all the requeriments to be here.
OP seems 100% serious when she says that the Rick and Morty short should’ve been on MAL if Cyberpunk: Edgerunners is on here. She even gave genuine arguments for why that should be the case.

It's hard to win an argument against smart people, but impossible to win an argument against dumb ones.
Sep 22, 2022 8:36 AM
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mkyiu said:
a better question would be where is Arcane


Arcane is explicitly a work of western animation.
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Jul 24, 2023 12:48 AM
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Their justification for exuding it was that it wasn't made for a Japanese audience...but neither was Housing Complex C, which is also in the exact same boat as Rick and Morty(notably , the fact it has never aired in Japan) but it has it's own MAL page.
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PrasadRT said:
Because, it is not targeted for Japanese audience, first of all, it isn't even Japanese Language. It's an English Animated series, so it isn't allowed in MAL.

That's odd because Castlevania is also not on here, which is even more odd because it's based off of a Japanese video game that's targeted towards Japanese audiences.
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Because, it is not targeted for Japanese audience, first of all, it isn't even Japanese Language. It's an English Animated series, so it isn't allowed in MAL.

That's odd because Castlevania is also not on here, which is even more odd because it's based off of a Japanese video game that's targeted towards Japanese audiences.

Most video games are catered to all people around the wprld, not just Japanese audience,. Besides, the game series is not called Castlevania in Japan, it's called Dracula X, which shows this was not catered to only Japense audience.  Find a better example next time.
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Blade772009 said:

That's odd because Castlevania is also not on here, which is even more odd because it's based off of a Japanese video game that's targeted towards Japanese audiences.

Most video games are catered to all people around the wprld, not just Japanese audience,. Besides, the game series is not called Castlevania in Japan, it's called Dracula X, which shows this was not catered to only Japense audience.  Find a better example next time.

it is a good example because your logic holds no merit because even though that it's called Dracula x in Japan and Castlevania here in America it's the same way with resident evil and biohazard which is also based off of the video game. so you just disproved your own self because that's on here but Castlevania is not. I was quoting the guy earlier saying that it wasn't a target for Japanese audiences, would it actually is because it's based off of Japanese IPs? same way with biohazard and resident evil the marvel stuff that's on here isn't no way shape or form for Japanese audiences but they're still on here regardless. and you can say well the marvel stuff caters to around the world which is true. they do, but the only really do significant numbers in America and China. the rest of the world not as much as what you think. and the other thing is the Japanese considered anime pretty much anything that's animation. it doesn't matter if it's anime from Japan or if It's stuff that's done by Pixar it's anime to them regardless. Try harder next time.
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Yes, my little dude ...it's the evil MaL-Council, meeting this morning...trying to figure out how to make you as mad as possible xD


God, touch grass, drink some milk and eat a cookie. Who cares? Grow some and just ask them instead of bitching in your passive agressive Thread like this...it's embarrassing. How do you know the Mods are even deciding this stuff?...Ugh...
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If it bothered you so much that a 5 min short is missing then you can just join another site to include it in your list.
well it's about to be a 10 episode long show now, so can we complain now?
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The Rick and Morty short films are produced by Deen, Telecom Animation, and Sola Entertainment. They're all Japanese studios, and the main staff reflects that. It's an anime. Who cares if the target audience was North America. Japan has access to them from Adult Swim's YouTube channel. It makes more sense for it to be in the database than Chinese and Korean productions that have zero Japanese input. I think it meets more than enough requirements for leeway.

The 10-episode series is being directed by Takashi Sano who worked on 2 of the previous shorts, and produced by Telecom Animation. It appears it's gonna be just like the previous work. So far, I'd say the series could also be added. Hell, both the series and short films are on AniList, and their database is always lacking compared to MAL. Well, not in this specific case.
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The Rick and Morty short films are produced by Deen, Telecom Animation, and Sola Entertainment. They're all Japanese studios, and the main staff reflects that. It's an anime. Who cares if the target audience was North America. Japan has access to them from Adult Swim's YouTube channel. It makes more sense for it to be in the database than Chinese and Korean productions that have zero Japanese input. I think it meets more than enough requirements for leeway.

The 10-episode series is being directed by Takashi Sano who worked on 2 of the previous shorts, and produced by Telecom Animation. It appears it's gonna be just like the previous work. So far, I'd say the series could also be added. Hell, both the series and short films are on AniList, and their database is always lacking compared to MAL. Well, not in this specific case.
This is not exactly our topic, but what exactly Anilist lack compared to MAL? You will find every single entry that it is here on Anilist. Otherwise, Anilist is superior in terms of manhwa/manhua!
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Gotta draw the line somewhere, there are many "cartoons" made in my country which had little collaborations with jp studios, with some doing 99% of the work. So why should western trash be so special to get an entry in an anime database.

If you want every animated entry in the world maybe check smth like IMDb.
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The Rick and Morty short films are produced by Deen, Telecom Animation, and Sola Entertainment. They're all Japanese studios, and the main staff reflects that. It's an anime. Who cares if the target audience was North America. Japan has access to them from Adult Swim's YouTube channel. It makes more sense for it to be in the database than Chinese and Korean productions that have zero Japanese input. I think it meets more than enough requirements for leeway.

The 10-episode series is being directed by Takashi Sano who worked on 2 of the previous shorts, and produced by Telecom Animation. It appears it's gonna be just like the previous work. So far, I'd say the series could also be added. Hell, both the series and short films are on AniList, and their database is always lacking compared to MAL. Well, not in this specific case.
This is not exactly our topic, but what exactly Anilist lack compared to MAL? You will find every single entry that it is here on Anilist. Otherwise, Anilist is superior in terms of manhwa/manhua!
@Hachii13

Anilist doesn't allow recap movies, recap episodes, manner movies/photo sessions and a bunch of other stuff
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Anilist doesn't allow recap movies, recap episodes, manner movies/photo sessions and a bunch of other stuff
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Wdym! They allow recap movies!! but not recap episodes and the bunch of worthless stuff, and that's one of the things I like about Anilist.
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Wdym! They allow recap movies!! but not recap episodes and the bunch of worthless stuff, and that's one of the things I like about Anilist.
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An incomplete database isn’t a good thing just because something is deemed “worthless.”
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The rule that says an anime needs to be made for a Japanese audience is a decent guideline when debating what constitutes anime. I admit a show or movie just being animated in Japan isn't enough for me to consider something anime and without that guideline you run into semantics like "shouldn't Frosty the Snowman be considered anime? Shouldn't Tiny Toons be considered anime?" Adding the qualifier that it needs to have been made for a Japanese audience puts stupid arguments like that to rest. That being said it seems like the MAL staff are abusing that guideline to keep shows out of their database that they don't like for personal reasons. Using that qualifier of "made for a Japanese audience" should be a way of explaining why explicitly American productions aren't listed despite some Japanese involvement not a way to exclude shows produced in Japan with >90% Japanese staff just because you think they're gay. Cyberpunk and Scott Pilgrim were created under extremely similar circumstances but Cyberpunk has a listing and Scott Pilgrim doesn't.

Cyberpunk is a western IP just like Scott Pilgrim but the argument for why Scott Pilgrim isn't on here is because the trailers came out in English first. Space Dandy aired in English first but yeah it gets a listing. The CG Netflix/CR Saint Seiya anime was animated in Japan but was made for the American market. The writer is an English speaking Asian-American and all the names were localized (Hyoga is Magnus and Saori is Sienna ect). All three seasons of this series have entries on MAL. There are pages for tons of other anime produced by Adult Swim, Netflix, and CR which are absolutely aimed at an international audience that have pages. The Rick and Morty Anime looks like shit and I probably won't watch a minute of it but its unfortunately anime.
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this is not Anime but Chinese Animation is Anime why How?
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Arcane is the best animation series ever, I can't for season 2 this year. I don't like Netflix, but here they cooked.
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Arcane is the best animation series ever, I can't for season 2 this year. I don't like Netflix, but here they cooked.
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cause this site sucks ass, Scott Pilgrim Takes Off isnt on here as well because "it targets the west demographic". pathetic
Im glad that atleast Edgerunners is tho cause its a true masterpiece (also im Polish lmao)
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