So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)
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xorion said: She's toying with them, obviously. Sophia even said in the episode that they are intentionally keeping them alive. Nowhere in the fight does Shun have a chance at winning. You say it's like a shounen, but in what shounen does the protagonist fail at every turn? Shun isn't the protagonist, but if it were a shounen and he was the protagonist, he would be more useful when it actually matters. In this case the story is just being consistent with its power scaling. The only thing Shun has succeeded in doing at this point is running away to stay alive, and defeat Hugo. When did the story tell you Hugo was powerful? Think about the perspectives. They're both weak, and Oka isn't strong either, clearly. They may be strong for humans, but when have humans been shown to actually be strong in this story? Hint: they haven't. Overpowered Shounen protagonist can lose, he is just less likely to lose than others, and so far plot favored him quite heavily either facing no real obstacles, resolving issues pretty easily or problems solving themselves with no input. I expect sudden power-up tomorrow, or some contrivance to keep him going. |
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Siegfried10 said: The only thing he has in his favor is the Divine Protection skill that the troll of D gave him, which is literally plot armor. Bla bla bla... And Novel Readers are slowly revealing how broken the character Shun is. Sadly, you aren't going to reveal more, anime is over, I am just waiting for the final episode, and then this discussion will die and be forgotten as any sequel is years away. |
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| At least Hugo has been defeated but I was looking forward to seeing the continuation of Kumoko's and Ariel's fight. |
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groudonvert said: For a human, he's broken in deed (second or third most powerfull human in the world). But humans are weak. Ronandt who is the most powerfull human in the world can't do anything against Kumoko (and she was much less powerfull than she is right now). Roland (and I won't spell him with T) isn't the chosen one. Shun is repeatedly saved by circumstances or favored by them... Shun has .... Harem's protagonist charm, which is totally undeserved, since he doesn't have charisma, and others born to noble families are also rich. He is saved by a teacher who seemingly gained power only to save him and make him special, which is never used again. He became Hero without any particular effort and received free powers without any real effort. He forgot about losing his brother, making his drama empty and pointless. He survived a coup where the entire country turned against him, circumstances favoring him to survive. One brother that sided with him disappeared when saving Shun was needed and forgotten. The death of his father is equally empty as one with his brother, as it is quickly forgotten. He survived an encounter with supposedly more powerful Sophia without any consequences. He heals transexuality by the power of friendship. He survived the labyrinth without any consequences even if he and his harem didn't have any common sense. He is untouched by elves despite they are imprisoning all reincarnates. He is saved by the enemy from the situation he creates when Sophia kills Hugo. (assuming Hugo stays dead, which I doubt) Roland, supposedly the most powerful mage in the Empire, had only one specific event favoring him when he cast his teleport spell fast enough. He supposedly also trained to become a mage for his entire life. |
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| yup everything I predicted has come true but the animation tho was so bad this time. |
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groudonvert said: Ronandt, not Roland ^^ and the t is pronounced, not the d. And... lol for the rest of your sentance about Ronandt. There's a reason why this guy, not counting Kumoko, is the funniest character in the series ^^ Author doesn’t speak English, obviously. Can’t blame her, it isn’t a first language. However LN shouldn’t use it as an example, you often attribute author with genius she doesn't seem to have, for example... Also, Japanese don’t use story structure with Exposion – Rising Action – Climax etc. They go by Introduction – Development – Twist – Conclusion. groudonvert said: And his family, his tilte (both nobility and hero) and kingdom were stolen by Sophia and Hugo. Sophia even stated that she was glad that it happened to him, because he didn't suffer enough. Problem just removed itself. Hugo is dead. If he is resurrected in final episode, he will surely see Shun as awesome because that’s how many anime go by. Sophia can’t rule his kingdom. She is from Demon Lord’s retinue, unless Demon Lord installs her by force, which is unlikely. And Church can convince people about anything seemingly. groudonvert said: There's a reason why she doesn't use them all the time. A reason explained later (LN12 I believe). And we are at LN5. Author probably forgot about the skill and decided to add it in the end because it was contrived. We are what would normally be season two. Answer would be season five or six assuming anime ever gets that many seasons,. This suggest it was never meant to be answered, it’s just contrivance. groudonvert said: He forgot about his brother's death ? When ? He asked Sophia if his brother killer was among the demon army, because he wanted to revenge him (episode 23, during the fight you said they're just talking). Yes, he did. It was an issue immediately after, and then mentioned in the fight in Hugo among other generic shounen protagonist talk. groudonvert said: About that, it's the anime that cut nearly everything about the coup. There are many more things in LN after their escape (for example, we know what happen to Cylis after that). It isn’t in the anime. We can’t be expected to reach for outside material to understand the story. And considering how obsessed story is by confusing readers, I assume even wiki is lying so author can claim all contrivances are “mystery” groudonvert said: She let her escape. Which is stupid thing to do, and isn’t explained, and isn’t going to be explained anytime soon. groudonvert said: No, it's not because of power of friendship, but because of Mercy (episode 15). Katia was dead and Shun used one of the 7 Heavenly Virtue to save her. Besides that, you're right about one thing : even as a LN Reader I can't tell you how he gained this skill. Which isn’t explained in any way. So it is a power of friendship. It forgot about teacher’s power, and gave her new one as plot no longer required old one, but now needed a new one. I assume Shun is the same, gaining powers as plot demands. groudonvert said: Didn't you find that strange that the Nightmare's Vestiges were on their path, then Bargath told them they would pass by an other way to avoid them ? They went directly to Vestiges territory, guide punched Shun to the face for doing so as they would be dead if Shun wasn’t plot armoured. groudonvert said: They are under surveillance. Do you watch the episodes or just note what you can criticize ? They defend the elves against outside force. Before Elves pulled out Gundam crossover, it looked like elves needed help, and Shun was over the heels to help them. groudonvert said: Shun outmatched Hugo. Seriously watch the episodes. And they would probably fight each other to the death, but the situation resolved itself rather than Shun being forced to do anything about it. I bet that Shun now resurrects Hugo with his power as the plot demands, and they will be best friends … again. |
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| It's sad no seeing kumo-chan in the episode, interesting epidose althought |
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Abredon said: Introduction is the same as Exposition Development is the same as Rising Action Twist is the same as Climax Conclusion is the same as Denouement Wow, EXACTLY the same structure. Actually it is not 1:1 analogue, story structure is different in Eastern storytelling and it is actually noticeable in the vast majority of anime as it doesn't rely on the central conflict that is meant to be actually resolved in the end. Western stories tend to be more aggressive, while Eastern doesn't have to be in actually solving anything. A "Development" is usually a small change from the introduction. In MHA "Development" is actually a fact that Deku doesn't have superpowers in world where everyone has one. In Kuko, "Development" is the fact that Shun exists and Kumuko isn't the only protagonist. And yes, development tends to be such a minor thing. |
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renimus said: Even without reading the LN the story makes total sense the only thing the anime cut for the human side story is some charater stuff the mysteries are there even in the LN. it should also go without saying that having plot reveals and twists is not bad storytelling its actually very common both in anime and other media i dont know why you think that having reveals later down the line in a long running story is bad but its an increadibly stupid take. For example the truth behind the inciting incident of the plot of GOT (jhon arryn' death in book 1/s01) is only reaveled in book 4 or 5 seasons later that isnt bad quite the opposite if evrything was explained immidiatly it would make for a less compelling show/book. Even if you dont know all the seacrets tha have been foreshadowed plot and motivations are all clear and its not particulary complex (the demons want to make their invasion easy and destroy the elfs so they throw the kingdom in chaos with a coup and manipulate the empire agaisnt the elfs) Also why are getting so hung up on the B plot and shun you mentioned that you spoiled the books so i presume that you know that shun's plotline isnt that important and we wont see him for an entire season and a half. Litteraly all of your points are nonsesnse or alredy explained by the anime im starting to think that you are a troll because as soon as someone call you out for being wrong on a point you concede and move to a completly unreleted argument that is just as wrong. Anime doesn't make sense without the novel. An actual politics between human kingdoms, church, the Hero and such is not explained, and the story makes a mystery out of it in an attempt to confuse the audience. It is technically mentioned somewhere, for example, country names are offhand mentioned in a school episode, but you don't have a chance to notice that unless you already read the novel and know what to pay attention to. Otherwise, you would entirely lack context for what is happening even if it is mentioned somewhere, skills are usually also "explained" in offhand mentions that are easily forgotten without having a context for all if from different sources. It isn't a coincidence that shows bigger defendants are people who read the novel and now want to act smug because they know it isn't making sense without it and that's exactly the reason why you are here. |
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groudonvert said: Forgot ? lol Okina Baba forshadowed events of LN11 in the first 3 LN (and a scene of the anime is from LN11 by the way). No it wasn't supposed to be unanswered, as I told you multiple times, Shun's Story is a Flashforward of events that will occur later in Kumoko's story, but from an other POV. Many things unclear in their time will be answered later. And, quick reminder, there are 15 years of story to tell between Kumoko and Shun. Yes, the author foreshadowed the events of current event in 11 volume of light novel... I think this explains the issue with the anime perfectly, it demands you to see the future as anime doesn't reach volume 11 as you admired previously. You simply need to know the events that didn't happen yet, and then you feel they were foreshadowed and you just need to "pay attention" because you have read the novel before anime aired. It literally expects you to see the future. Of course, I DIDN'T "PAY ATTENTION" TO THE NOVEL I DIDN'T READ. |
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| Since the last episode's been delayed indefinitely (3 months at the very least due to time slot requirements) I'm just going to consider this the end of the series: The series is a consistently entertaining mix of Slime Isekai, Arifureta, and Youjo Senki with a few elements thrown in from Hamefura (the personality council) and Scrapped Princess (the setting). Sadly it has two rather major flaws. The first being notably inconsistent production quality, sinking down to Arifureta lows at points, while the second is how extremely weird it is for these characters to have lived as long in this new world as they did in their last one and still have such an odd attachment to their former classmates/teacher. I still enjoyed it quiet a bit of course, as I'm a sucker for overpowered MCs, but the flaws are quite visible. |
| the only thing that amused me is the elves seem to have crappy looking mobile suits. |
| Such a fun series but this was the worst episode. The budget is nearly non-existent and sadly the star wasn't even in it. The mech-savvy elfs are kinda lame. Expected a lot more at this point. |
| Why the studio decide to DESTROY the amazing plot twist of the scifi mechas in an anime that is supposed to follow a fantasy rule scenario, THAT PLOT TWIST happen in other part of the novel and it would have been better if they keep like that KUMOMO FINDING THE MECHAS make sense in the novel cuz she went all kumomo style saying : "ahhhhhhhhhh???? What is this ?????? This make no sense !!!!!! Why is scifi now in my fantasy world " and mega funny dialogues that make a great introduction into that slowly change of pace |
Noir_AlchemistJul 4, 2021 6:50 PM
| Wow the fight was really bad and boring... If the Animation was good maybe i can enjoying it. And plus no Kumoko? What a bummer. The only thing that Interesting to me is the end Credit Scene... |
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| As always the animation was mediocre but that is par for the course at this point. It was still somehow a little more enjoyable than MC fighting the demon lord last week. The elves suddenly having machines was at least surprising. Although Sophia/Kyouya doesn't really seem to threaten by them. |
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