DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| Dang, would've been cool to see the return of prince Ouken, but I'm okay with saving that for later. At least Despa will be fine; it wasn't mentioned but I'm pretty sure Daida just sold his soul to the devil when he made his wish, he had to have given up SOMETHING at least. |
  NYANPASU  whiskey tango foxtrot |
| So Miranjo was saved from the Demon thanks to Daida, but I wasn't expecting him to claim Miranjo as his future wife. I guess this was the only way that Daida can fulfill King Bosse's final wish even though Desha and Despa's wish to bring Ouken back. With Bosse gone for good, King Desha accepted the #1 spot in the Ranking of Kings and is escorted to the Treasure Room. Only one episode left. |
 |
| This is some cringe development... BEHOLD... 0 CONSEQUENCES - THE ANIME. At least I'm glad to see Daida and Bojji together now, it's been a long time. Guys, don't worry, it's perfectly understandable why Daida brought back and wants to marry Miranjo, dude obviously has the Stockholm Syndrome. Well, Miranjo is cute so whatever. Goddamn this second half plummeted so much That moment when you realize this "Ranking of Kings" they mentioned has almost nothing to do with the story of the whole season, even though the show is named after it... expectations subverted! |
JedanKomadMar 17, 2022 3:16 PM
 |
| The Show: We must save Miranjo from the Demon Me: Why tho? Daida: I will marry Miranjo! Me: ExCUse mE WHaT!!! This series really dropped the ball in the second half especially with the Bosse and Miranjo. |
| Fuck Miranjo AND Bosse. I mean I personally can't sympathize with or like any one of them. They're both a couple of selfish bastards. Two wrongs don't make a right. I was vibing hard with the first half of this and was set on giving it a least a 9. But with these past couple of episodes, I just couldn't feel the immense enjoyment I had initially. Probably gonna get a 7 from me just because I love everything else about it except for those two. |
| So, to sum this up: Miranjo committed or otherwise contributed to all sorts of atrocities throughout this series, but because she was nice as a kid she basically escapes with literally zero consequences for any of her wrongdoings. Even her soul going to the demon was undone so ridiculously easy that they may as well have not bothered introducing that plot point to begin with. Just when I thought this second cour was going to redeem itself with last week's episode, it goes and pulls this shit instead. This is, without a shadow of a doubt, one of the worst written villains and villain redemption arcs I have ever seen. Also, how disappointing that they also reduced Daida to a mere simp to make this happen, when he'd been a pretty solid character before being locked in the darkness (he seriously feels no negativity towards her about that? none at all?). Truly disappointing, and I'm honestly relieved there's only one episode left of this mess now. Will the titular Ousama Ranking finally become relevant at the last minute, after otherwise having less than no impact on proceedings thus far? |
| Daida's marriage announcements made the whole episode for me |
| One episode left, What a journey for Ousama Ranking! |
 |
| This episode was just a mess overall and a complete buzzkill in the writing department to what the last episode was trying to deliver with some energy for once, although I didn't even love that fight then. The Miranjo stuff felt way too rushed without enough proper build and time for me to be alright with everything that happened here. |
| Its a good ep and all, but how does daida want to marry a 20+ year old Miranjo? Like I understand forgiving her for her past, but that just doesn't make sense. |
| what will happen to daida? will he have to give his soul to the demon? will that be resolve in one episode? |
 |
| Who was behind Miranjo's assassination by arrow when she set up Shillin? It didn't looked like an accident and it's a crucial moment of the show, I can't believe it has been left unexplained. Did I miss a scene? |
| Lmao no what the fuck. Miranjo brought back to life and she’s also going to marry Daida? What a joke. Also, Bosse hands down the worst father ever. I hate him so much. Yeah, didn’t really like the direction this episode took. Also, still didn’t understand the whole deal with the demon. I was expecting more. |
XenocrisiMar 17, 2022 4:55 PM
| Daida is finally free. And Miranjo was saved, the fact that he proposed to her was unexpected xD With Ouken, they will still wait and see what Desha will do. And the scene with Hiling was beautiful <3 But well...there's one episode left. |
| So after all the shit Miranjo did...everybody is just going to forgive her. Nah not me. This is actually fucking stupid and Daida's marriage proposal makes no sense other then Bosse telling him to "Protect Miranjo" Miranjo had him brainwashed since the beginning and they will write it off as "Development" smh. Nah im good. Only thing this episode told me is that Despa and Hilling are top tier characters. My score is dropping after this one. |
| Listen to my podcast https://anchor.fm/waifusandweeaboos Follow my twitch. https://www.twitch.tv/sorasensei1 Fall 2024 Waifus on Profile "You can have multiple Waifus" -me |
| No collateral for Daida's wish? Maybe this one is on the house. Also, surprising development on Desha's side; I wasn't expecting him to bite the bullet and accepting the top king ranking in order to visit the organization's vault. Will he get his wish granted or will he go insane before that? |
| Daida is a fucking CHAD bru He want to hug really hard Miranjo daa unexpected |
 |
AnarchistCandy said: How old is Daida?? I can't tell if I didn't realize he was older or if this relationship with Miranjo is just bizarrely inappropriate. I also thought about that. There are two ways of thinking about it: Miranjo's actual age and her body's age. Miranjo seemed to be a late teen/young adult during that island scene (could be anywhere from 16-20 imo). If so, and assuming around two years passed before Bojji was born, then she should be 18-22 years older than Bojji. From his looks, Daida seems to be 13/14 years old, which would make Bojji anywhere from 15 to 17 (he's small because of his curse, he doesn't look his age). If we assume Bojji was 2 or 3 when his mother died, then Miranjo's body (which was frozen and stopped aging) should be in the range of 20-25 years old. Miranjo's "mind", on the other hand, should be somewhere between 33-39. Either way she's much older than Daida, but if we're only talking about her "body age" then this would be in the range of what was acceptable historically, given the time period (especially if it was the other way around, as it was very common for older men to marry younger women). My personal opinion is that we're supposed to consider Miranjo's body age (her looks) rather than her actual age. Why? It's pure fairy tale logic. Just like in those stories where a prince or princess is cursed and turned into a frog or beast, and then something happens to break the curse and the person comes back to their human form only to marry and live happily ever after. Have you ever considered how long that person stayed cursed for? How old they actually are, despite the looks? No, because that's not the point of the story. This is something that struck me immediately while I was watching. I think it makes sense, since Ranking of Kings seems to be a deconstruction of the classic fairy tales: the hero isn't strong, the step mother isn't evil, the deceased king wasn't good and, in the end, it's the villain who is rescued and gets to live happily ever after. I think it's a fitting end for the story. |
AnotherGuyMar 17, 2022 6:35 PM
k0rvus said: Yaa Ik her age is most probably 100+ but while her soul was captured in the mirror she physically didn't age.ZXEAN said: She's definitely way older than 16-18. She was already a teen or adult before Daida was ever even thought of, let alone born.Not that much I think it's 16-18. There is no official data so we can only assume. |
AnotherGuy said: AnarchistCandy said: How old is Daida?? I can't tell if I didn't realize he was older or if this relationship with Miranjo is just bizarrely inappropriate. I also thought about that. There are two ways of thinking about it: Miranjo's actual age and her body's age. Miranjo seemed to be a late teen/young adult during that island scene (could be anywhere from 16-20 imo). If so, and assuming around two years passed before Bojji was born, then she should be 18-22 years older than Bojji. From his looks, Daida seems to be 13/14 years old, which would make Bojji anywhere from 15 to 17 (he's small because of his curse, he doesn't look his age). If we assume Bojji was 2 or 3 when his mother died, then Miranjo's body (which was frozen and stopped aging) should be in the range of 20-25 years old. Miranjo's "mind", on the other hand, should be somewhere between 33-39. Either way, she's much older than Daida, but if we're only talking about her "body age" then this would be in the range of what was acceptable historically, given the time period (especially if it was the other way around, as it was very common for older men to marry younger women). My personal opinion is that we're supposed to consider Miranjo's body age (her looks) rather than her actual age. Why? It's pure fairy tale logic. Just like in those stories where a prince or princess is cursed and turned into a frog or beast, and then something happens to break the curse and the person comes back to their human form only to marry and live happily ever after. Have you ever considered how long that person stayed cursed for? How old they actually are, despite the looks? No, because that's not the point of the story. This is something that struck me immediately while I was watching. I think it makes sense, since Ranking of Kings seems to be a deconstruction of the classic fairy tales: the hero isn't strong, the step mother isn't evil, the deceased king wasn't good and, in the end, it's the villain who is rescued and gets to live happily ever after. I think it's a fitting end for the story. Hum guys, it's Middle Age ??? |
Whayle said: AnotherGuy said: I also thought about that. There are two ways of thinking about it: Miranjo's actual age and her body's age. Miranjo seemed to be a late teen/young adult during that island scene (could be anywhere from 16-20 imo). If so, and assuming around two years passed before Bojji was born, then she should be 18-22 years older than Bojji. From his looks, Daida seems to be 13/14 years old, which would make Bojji anywhere from 15 to 17 (he's small because of his curse, he doesn't look his age). If we assume Bojji was 2 or 3 when his mother died, then Miranjo's body (which was frozen and stopped aging) should be in the range of 20-25 years old. Miranjo's "mind", on the other hand, should be somewhere between 33-39. Either way, she's much older than Daida, but if we're only talking about her "body age" then this would be in the range of what was acceptable historically, given the time period (especially if it was the other way around, as it was very common for older men to marry younger women). My personal opinion is that we're supposed to consider Miranjo's body age (her looks) rather than her actual age. Why? It's pure fairy tale logic. Just like in those stories where a prince or princess is cursed and turned into a frog or beast, and then something happens to break the curse and the person comes back to their human form only to marry and live happily ever after. Have you ever considered how long that person stayed cursed for? How old they actually are, despite the looks? No, because that's not the point of the story. This is something that struck me immediately while I was watching. I think it makes sense, since Ranking of Kings seems to be a deconstruction of the classic fairy tales: the hero isn't strong, the step mother isn't evil, the deceased king wasn't good and, in the end, it's the villain who is rescued and gets to live happily ever after. I think it's a fitting end for the story. Hum guys, it's Middle Age ??? Yeah, that's why I said that age gap was historically accepted in real life, given the time period. |
| HILLING-SAMA!!!!!!!!! It brought a tear to my eyes when she hugged her boys at the end |
| 2nd half sucks. I missed the story quality of the 1st half... |
My Candies:    |
| Note that Bosse's final wish was NOT "tell my son I'm sorry I ruined his life for something that I didn't care about the literal second I obtained it" but "save my daughter-wife" and that Daida took that to heart and thought, hm...I admire my dad so much I want to be just like him down to marrying his forever mistress. i actually feel bad for Ouken. OUKEN. Also is it just me or is Daida giving off very clear vibes that despite the wonky events prior he will not be giving Bojji that crown. The entire family is full of cheaters except for Hiling, the tsundere is literally the most genuine. dude fck this show |
| That is why people now is so dumb. Incest |
| Daida marrying Miranjo, that was expected. |
   » [The World's Continuation【世界のつづき】- UTA/Ado ♪] « 0:00 〇────── 4:55 ↺ |◁ II ▷| ♡ ✦ Come and Join us! ✦ Evil Club ψ FuwaFuwa Sanctuary ✿ ✿ DeaD Blossoms ✿ |
| That was a perfect chance to save Ouken or restore the strength that was taken away from Boji but saving Miranjo was ok |
 |
| Can't believe Ousama Ranking dropped a fucking "Usagi Drop manga" moment twice in the same episode. Well, let's see. Miranjo being saved from the Devil was a total fact (not a fan of this but well) but a marriage proposal? What in the world?... I mean, if Daida did it with the intention of guaranteeing Miranjo's safety, it kinda makes sense. But if it's not only that and Daida actually fell in love with the mirror's voice he has grown up with, then this will surely become the biggest WTF moment of the entire winter season for me. Also this. So much this: NightKnightTaken said: Who wrote this episode... this episode was honestly just terrible. Miranjo caused tons of citizens of the kingdom to be slaughtered by Ouken, encouraged Bosse to steal his new born baby's power making him disabled, killed Boji's mum so Bosse could have another baby who's body he would steal, attempted to murder Hilling, got Dorshe nearly killed and dismembered, almost got the rest of the 4 heavenly kings killed, tried to have Boji killed on multiple occasions, broke criminals out of prison who killed multiple people and died themselves. Despite all of this, the idea that Miranjo was a "good person" was still shoved in our faces, simply because she was nice when she was like 5. Then Bosse has the balls to ask Daida to forgive and protect her... AND HE ACTUALLY DOES, he cared about what his father, who disabled his brother, let that brother's mother die without condemning the person who did it, let the attempted assassinations of both HIS mother and his brother happen, stole his body, and try to kill their own subjects. SO MUCH, that he even decided that she was worth marrying to protect... Daida couldn't care less about all the harm she did, simply because she was kind as a kid.. +1 Daida literally went from hating his father guts for making his brother disabled to honouring his last wish with all his might in the span of 20 minutes. Honestly, it's such a shame to see this show dropping the ball so hard after such engaging first cour. Seriously, it was being so damn solid... Oh. And Ouken deserved better, by the way. |
| this episode is a bit anticlimactic if you ask me.. like i thought they would fight the demon or the demon would take something for the wish but he just left.. queen hiling still the best mom, the way she got embarrassed is also cute.. daida really become one of my favorite character in this series.. now that's weird, desha is a really hot tempered individual, I cant believed he just accepted it like that.. also it seems like this ranking of kings is darker than we thought. 1 episode left, I really cant wait but also it will be sad.. I will miss this anime |
| ant sure about this one chief anymore my excitement to turn into this each week died in the 2nd half to i guess ill watch it since theres nothing else on missed the quality of the first half plot wise and ever since the Gyakuza which has some questionable stuff the writing has been not great at all |
katsu044Mar 17, 2022 8:39 PM
 |
Well, this was different from how it played out in the manga I guess lol Even then, this still is the weakest part of the entire manga, because of how anticlimactically it was executed, but it actually makes a lot of coherent sense in terms of character progression, and I'll make a post explaining why (yeah, even the stupid "proposal as an excuse to atone sins" in here actually is in line with Daida's character arc related to Bosses' own resolve towards Miranjo). Could have been much better with some more monologuing pinpointing where Daida is coming from, a lot of people will miss why he did just that (he is basically taking Bosses' mantle in protecting Miranjo and trying to make herself give her extremely traumatized and codependent life a chance with the turn of a new page). I thought Wit could have expanded just a little bit explicitly on what the manga didn't, it ended up wasting potential (they did expand some things in the anime despite distilling others). The overall effective characterization and consistency with the thematic conflicts is still in there, but alas is not portrayed as well put as it could have been. 3/5 |
DanpmssMar 17, 2022 8:47 PM
 |
| that's kinda fucked up for Ouken, wtf Daida |
 |
| What the hell did I just watch lol. First Platinum End today, and now this. Um, hello Daida? You just proposed to the woman who was probably in love with your FATHER and tried to assassinate your MOTHER?? And what about the other fucked up shit she's done? Just cause she was nice to you growing up, and your selfish-assed daddy asked you to coddle her? Her sad past doesn't excuse her horrible actions. She should've just gone to the afterlife with Bosse or something. This redemption arc is horribly written. Even if she somehow spends the rest of her life helping people, she doesn't deserve this at all. And did the demon really just grant Daida's wish - something normally considered taboo (bringing someone back to life) and having terrifying consequences - in exchange for just getting his head back? That trade is so unbalanced. Fullmetal Alchemist would bring this to shame. If it was that easy, Bosse should've just beat the demon up until the demon granted his wish. I really hope there's a better explanation - like the demon's plotting something - but I really doubt it given that they haven't even bothered to give a proper explanation for most of Bosse's actions. Lastly, as "nice" as Despa is, his logic doesn't make much sense. Yes, Ouken is immortal so they could technically save him later, but the point is that he's suffering and in AGONY right now. And this is not to mention he's stuck in a fucking rock. I would've been beyond furious if I was him. Especially when Daida didn't do shit in severing the demon's head but he just so happened to gain consciousness at just the right time, waltzed in, and stole his wish. The only thing I liked about this episode was Hiling and the interesting set-up with Desher going to the treasure vault. Actually, they are the only characters I like in this show, screw everyone else. I really, really want to give this show at least a 7 since I absolutely loved the first half of this show but these last few episodes have been such a disappointment, I don't even.... |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Ousama Ranking Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - Dec 9, 2021 |
151 |
by JayremyTM
»»
Nov 7, 3:36 AM |
|
Poll: » Ousama Ranking Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )deg - Jan 5, 2022 |
116 |
by jilebi_james23
»»
Oct 21, 5:29 PM |
|
Poll: » Ousama Ranking Episode 11 Discussion ( 1 2 )Stark700 - Dec 23, 2021 |
94 |
by jilebi_james23
»»
Oct 21, 5:02 PM |
|
Poll: » Ousama Ranking Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Dec 16, 2021 |
110 |
by jilebi_james23
»»
Oct 21, 4:14 PM |
|
Poll: » Ousama Ranking Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Dec 2, 2021 |
145 |
by jilebi_james23
»»
Oct 21, 3:00 PM |