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Mar 20, 2022 2:02 AM
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Satanic_baka said:
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the angelification of miranjo was so unnecessary , why are they trying to justify her actions? she is fucking evil she killed and destroyed and used people for her own gain. why make her a sad lil kid who needs saving for the sake of plot. this is the only thing I don't like in an otherwise fantastic show.whatever she has done is unforgivable, regardless of how "helpless" she may be or claims to be don't fucking give er the "convenience" of a sad past.


think from her perspective... thats the most she couldve done in those times... if Bosse didnt show the backstory, her death wouldve been necessary then. Most of the characters in the show have done some kind of unforgivable dream, but that doesnt mean that they should be killed of.
she deserves worse than being killed off, think about serial killers most of them have a horrible past more so than miranjo most of the time, so you are saying we should forgive their murder? NO we cant w can help them become better byut they will and must suffer the consequences .
Mar 20, 2022 2:15 AM

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SpRayquaza11 said:
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think from her perspective... thats the most she couldve done in those times... if Bosse didnt show the backstory, her death wouldve been necessary then. Most of the characters in the show have done some kind of unforgivable dream, but that doesnt mean that they should be killed of.
she deserves worse than being killed off, think about serial killers most of them have a horrible past more so than miranjo most of the time, so you are saying we should forgive their murder? NO we cant w can help them become better byut they will and must suffer the consequences .


This sure is the right thing, but if u hear the backstory b4 killing her and give the decisive responsibility to a child, he wudve done the same thing, u cant expect a child to give such a difficult choice...the show doesnt follow the obvious path... i told u earlier they made the dark fantasy into a shounen trope.
Mar 21, 2022 10:40 AM
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Omg! Am I the only one who is confused with what's going on? I still don't get what King Bosse's intentions were? And now he's officially dead. He didn't want any of this but he still let Miranjo kill Queen Shina and take over Daida's body all the while planning to kill Hilling? Like why couldn't he just say he never wanted any of this before making her do all the terrible stuff, which she now regrets?
And when I see everyone calling this episode deep and epic, I feel so stupid.
Cause rn, I am confused. I hope I get answers to all these questions. Because the chaos that's going on in the anime rn seems pointless to me.


I know this is an old post now but thank goodness someone has the same thoughts as me, only just watched episode 21 and I'm still confused about a lot of these things too, especially Bosse's motivations, they've been murky to me since the moment he possessed Daida's body.
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Mar 22, 2022 10:01 AM

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that fight scene from Bosse vs Bojji gave me Ping Pong the Animation vibes

defying the laws of anime physics in a good way , peak animation at its finest
Mar 23, 2022 6:46 AM

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The animation was awesome in this episode. That fight between Bojji and Bosse somehow looked like a child friendly version of Levi Vs Kenny and Levi Vs Monke fight.

Also everything about Miranjo at the end seemed kinda confusing. I hope they explain it in the next episode.
Mar 24, 2022 6:34 AM
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Watch this episode way too late, but i can see how all the fuss coming from, especially for the next episode. But before that, the amount of sakuga level and effort Wit put into this really well done and appreciated. I can see that there's something different and great coming up when the camera angle suddenly changed into the fisheye xd.

For the story wise, its to be expected having Bojji defeat Bosse, as how Despa already guess it previously. Still, with the swordmanship style of Bojji whose life-sparing someone as troubled as Bosse actually a big bet for Despa himself. If Bojji unable to dodge the invincible swing of Bosse. The deaf boy would be done for already. Gladly with that 'GoW' titan fight scene, that's how Bojji handle Bosse.

So, Miranjo really ask Bojji to destroy the mirror. But why Bojji prevent Bosse to destroy the mirror by himself? Not to mention Despa encouragement too. Damn, Bojji had a great confidence inside which make him did the impossible decision like that. That's the key, lad. King decision to take a difficult choice by his own hands; save Daida, kick Bosse out, and possibly lift Miranjo deal with the demon. But, how? That's when Daida matter next, i think.

Alright, there's also a slight conversation between Desha and ranking of king envoy. King of the underworld denied the first rank offer, in addition of also reject the treasury as a reward for the first place. Seems like the envoy displeased with Desha decision. Whats the matter? Pretty sure those kind of subject shall be more disclose in the next continuation of this, if Wit decide to continue this.

I assume, its about the Gods scheme from some of the previous episode revelations. But for more detail, well, lets just finish Miranjo case first before jumping up to Ranking of King matters. Hopefully...
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Mar 28, 2022 6:10 PM

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This episode is so freaking good!
So the devil is to blame, hope we will see Bojji defeat him soon! But it was a fantastic ending for Bosse and almost Miranjo.
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Apr 3, 2022 10:15 AM
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They literally just played rock paper scissors with Bosse, Bojji, & Ouken. With this level of animation, I'm not complaining
Apr 4, 2022 9:38 AM

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Dare I say, epic Bosse fight this episode... okay I'll take my leave now.

Great episode once again, but my only critique is that it still isn't crystal clear what Bosse's motivations actually were. I'm glad that there are people who understand in the discussions, so that it's clearer for me, but I wish I was able to understand just by watching the episode (although admittedly that is maybe my own fault). One thing that still isn't clear yet is what Bosse's relationship with Miranjo actually was; seems like a mix of friend, daughter, companion, or possibly even slightly romantic.

Apr 7, 2022 3:11 PM

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twas a pretty quick fight but I liked how they showed Bosse in his giant form. And oh boi this is why you don't make promises in the first place lolz. twas what she fucking deserves lets be honest.

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Apr 8, 2022 8:27 AM

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That was brilliant, Bojji vs. Bosse was siiiiiick
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Apr 9, 2022 7:03 AM

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Implying Miranjo wasnt in a world of pain and suffering already??

Also, Wits sasuga is really outstanding again. Im getting AoT 3DMG vibes.
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May 1, 2022 12:56 PM

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Bojji vs King Bosse was epic. Miranjo's ending though.. oof
Jun 17, 2022 3:10 AM
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great episode enjoy it lot
Aug 11, 2022 2:44 AM

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Wit went all out with the animation. Bojji made everyone proud, took care of Bosse.
Sep 27, 2022 5:44 AM

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That animation was spectacular. I love how Bosse was shown as a giant, in his true form.
Jan 15, 2023 11:43 PM
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What an episode man. Bojji really was the strongest.
Jan 27, 2023 10:29 PM
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ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
Feb 19, 2023 3:21 AM

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So... Miranjo lost her mother and knows how painful it is. And despite that experience, her plan still included to kill Bojji's mother to cause even more pain. And now people act like Miranjo is actually someone worth being saved?
Apr 3, 2023 4:09 AM

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Back in the first cour, Goshozono's episode was my favorite one and it's the same for the 2nd cour as well. POVs, bending perspectives, blending 3d layouts, is a really strong episode. Ah yes, now it's all the devil's fault and not Miranjo's (although to be fair, she never was shown as those conically evil characters lol)
May 7, 2023 7:19 AM
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best episode so far!
May 29, 2023 10:58 AM
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This episode really hit different. Hope nothing bad ruins this show from now on, like anticlimatic ending hahah...hah... hmm.......
Jun 24, 2023 11:33 PM

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Honestly couldn’t care what happens to miranjo
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Jul 13, 2023 7:57 PM
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Kind of scared this is going to get really stupid at the end
Oct 15, 2023 10:46 AM

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I can't avoid feeling sorry for Miranjo, she did such awful things. But her life was so damn miserable, that I can't hate her anymore.
Mixed feelings, cause I can't really feel like what she did is easily forgiven either.
Nov 9, 2023 12:14 PM

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Well despite some of my critiques towards the plot, I have no complaints with this top notch production quality. And no matter how many times I see it, that demon is creepy as Hell.

I wanted to make sure Bosse's motives were on full display before jumping the gun on any theories or predictions. From what I gather, he felt he owed Miranjo a debt and was conflicted between wanting to shoulder her sins vs not wanting to hurt the people of his kingdom. I think he ultimately staked it all on his fight with Bojji, where he would accept whichever result took shape.

But even so, I can't say this revelation connects all of the pieces and fully diminishes my dissatisfaction with the second cour. One thing that particularly irks me this episode is how Bojji understood Miranjo, who was a formless shadow in the mirror. In general, it feels like Bojji's disabilities have been conveniently bypassed for most of this arc.
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Thought this looked cool


THE ANIMATION THIS EPISOED DAYUUUM THE ANGLES AND EVERYTHING TOO DAAAAAMMMNN

This fight was crazy, it kinda reminded me of AOT lmao
Bojji is actually just built different now

Damn Bosse never wanted to come back
Miranjo gone fr put her in super hell

Probably the best animation in the whole show


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Apr 21, 2024 12:42 AM

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What's really Apis' relation to Miranjo? That was never really clearly explained?
Sep 20, 2024 12:36 AM

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Let’s see if it can stop falling off. She for some reason is now having regrets? It was all set up by the mirror. Why is she sorry. What made her change her mind? All of her suffering will be in vain. Some interesting angles. They dedicate themselves to death with one another. Come on what is this? They serve the rightful king. Not bad. Please please the other people have to join. Can we please stop having fights where allies don’t assist one another. Why can’t they fight together? They are agains trying to talk to him when he is not facing them. He cannot hear them. That’s his whole thing. He better not be under there. That is in opposition to his entire character for it to be possible that he didn’t move out of the way. Of course. He is fighting with the colossus. An interesting way for this fight to occur. Shing. He wins. At least that fight looked amazing. He is doing loopy loops. The first wall is destroyed. What is that and why is it that color? They are letting the killer crawl. This guy declines the rank of number 1 king. The system in which this whole show is named. He also blows out his cane. Wow. He changes peoples minds just through violence alone. He doesn’t speak to them. They just figure it out I guess. He has experienced all the joy this world has to offer yet all it would offer her was him. He won’t do that. So are we supposed to be under the impression that he can hear this? Meaning the mirror is talking telepathically, making this the first thing he hears or the mirror has hidden lips that are not visible from our perspective that he could be reading, or whoever is in charge of the show has forgotten that this character is supposed to be deaf. I don’t know at this point. Tommy smashes the mirror. The demon returns. It takes her soul. The demon is consuming and mixing together souls. A world of eternal suffering. 3
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