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Apr 22, 2013 11:54 AM
#151
100 fucking times better, the worst thing about this adaptation is that their soundtracks SUCK |
Apr 22, 2013 12:44 PM
#152
Lolack said: 100 fucking times better, the worst thing about this adaptation is that their soundtracks SUCK Their soundtrack is fine for the most part, the fact that they don't change their opening theme is kind of odd, but I like Departure. |
FrostToasterApr 22, 2013 11:24 PM
Apr 22, 2013 1:55 PM
#153
| Yeah, the soundtrack has been pretty solid. Especially since Greed Island, I actually found some of the choices in Yorknew kind of odd, the music has been pretty great. I still can't get the battle music used in Greed Island during the dodge ball and Bomber fights out of my head. |
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Apr 22, 2013 2:11 PM
#154
insan3soldiern said: Yeah, the soundtrack has been pretty solid. Especially since Greed Island, I actually found some of the choices in Yorknew kind of odd, the music has been pretty great. I still can't get the battle music used in Greed Island during the dodge ball and Bomber fights out of my head. That soundtrack is called The Emperor's time and it's from the Hunter x hunter movie soundtrack. u can just buy it or download it from anime-mp3.com or something. |
Apr 22, 2013 2:47 PM
#155
insan3soldiern said: The song used in Gon Vs. Genthru was actually Uvos Requiem and after hearing it used in the fight between them was a bit odd, the soundtrack I loved the most was Killuas fight against one of the bombers.Yeah, the soundtrack has been pretty solid. Especially since Greed Island, I actually found some of the choices in Yorknew kind of odd, the music has been pretty great. I still can't get the battle music used in Greed Island during the dodge ball and Bomber fights out of my head. |
Apr 22, 2013 3:08 PM
#156
Theorder14 said: Here's for those who wanted another op song :P That fit together oddly well, lol. Yeah, I was never a huge fan of the HxH opening song but it grew on me. Now it's starting to get on my nerves. Is this the only one we'll have for the rest of the series? |
Apr 22, 2013 3:27 PM
#157
| ughh Ive been waiting Sooo Sooo long !! it was soo Beautiful:P im kind Of Mad that they changed Kite ! but its okay..i guess . |
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Apr 22, 2013 9:00 PM
#158
| Maybe Kite wasn't added in the earlier episodes because they thought the anime would end at Yorkshin? They were granted Greed Island and forward, possibly even before G.I. (What was it... 39 episodes when it first aired?), so the doubt of continuation may have effected Kite's entrance in the original story. With that said, subtle (and they really were subtle, this is just a bunch of manga fanboys whining, really) changes to the plot surrounding Kite and Gon's relationship make perfect sense. In episode 76, had they recognized eachother without their first on-screen entrance, it would have seemed out-of-the-blue and disorienting. In episode 1, had they introduced Kite than they'd have to make it all the way to episode 76, otherwise their'd be a massive missing relationship between Kite and Gon. Though they could have played it a little differently - and this point is certainly weaker than the first, it is the possible reasoning behind this decision. |
Apr 22, 2013 9:12 PM
#159
Billbillstar said: Maybe Kite wasn't added in the earlier episodes because they thought the anime would end at Yorkshin? They were granted Greed Island and forward, possibly even before G.I. (What was it... 39 episodes when it first aired?), so the doubt of continuation may have effected Kite's entrance in the original story. With that said, subtle (and they really were subtle, this is just a bunch of manga fanboys whining, really) changes to the plot surrounding Kite and Gon's relationship make perfect sense. In episode 76, had they recognized eachother without their first on-screen entrance, it would have seemed out-of-the-blue and disorienting. In episode 1, had they introduced Kite than they'd have to make it all the way to episode 76, otherwise their'd be a massive missing relationship between Kite and Gon. Though they could have played it a little differently - and this point is certainly weaker than the first, it is the possible reasoning behind this decision. Animating chimera ant arc was the whole point of the remake. So that's 100% what they were going for. Not to mention the Kite-Knuckle-Morel silhouettes in the HxH intro. |
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Apr 22, 2013 9:22 PM
#160
Mikasa said: Billbillstar said: Maybe Kite wasn't added in the earlier episodes because they thought the anime would end at Yorkshin? They were granted Greed Island and forward, possibly even before G.I. (What was it... 39 episodes when it first aired?), so the doubt of continuation may have effected Kite's entrance in the original story. With that said, subtle (and they really were subtle, this is just a bunch of manga fanboys whining, really) changes to the plot surrounding Kite and Gon's relationship make perfect sense. In episode 76, had they recognized eachother without their first on-screen entrance, it would have seemed out-of-the-blue and disorienting. In episode 1, had they introduced Kite than they'd have to make it all the way to episode 76, otherwise their'd be a massive missing relationship between Kite and Gon. Though they could have played it a little differently - and this point is certainly weaker than the first, it is the possible reasoning behind this decision. Animating chimera ant arc was the whole point of the remake. So that's 100% what they were going for. Not to mention the Kite-Knuckle-Morel silhouettes in the HxH intro. Yes it's the point but there was still a certain amount of risk to the project. If the show got crap ratings they weren't going to continue. They listed it at 45+ episodes at first before it aired which means if the anime bombed they would do 45 episodes at the very minimum. Thankfully it didn't and it's kicking ass consistently now especially with Madhouse's announcement of its best ratings yet with 5.2% because of the Chimera Ant arc premiere : ) http://madhouse.co.jp/news/news_2013_04.html#news2013_0422 |
HybridMBLApr 22, 2013 9:58 PM
Apr 23, 2013 7:27 AM
#161
| Awesome episode. Don't care about whatever they changed. But please don't bring up one piece in here, don't taint this anime with that thing. |
Apr 23, 2013 7:36 AM
#162
| What the hell was that? 1/5 Combo breaker for Madhouse. After a long run. |
Apr 23, 2013 8:22 AM
#163
HeavenlyUser said: Mikisi said: WHAT THE FUCK THEY DESTROY KITExGON RELATIONSHIP Gon determination after Kite death will be making no sense now... Actually they destroyed the entire purpose of the series. Gon no longer has a reason to be a hunter seeing as Kite never said anything about Gin therefor gon never learned about hunters Paradox stuff right there. gon no longer has a reason to be a hunter? uhm to find his dad dumbass |
Apr 23, 2013 12:48 PM
#164
| Why are you guys even complaining about Mikasa saying One Piece being influenced by Hunter x Hunter? Whether or not One Piece was influenced by One Piece, that doesn't mean it ripped off of HxH. In fact, you could even say it's a good thing. Though really, Mikasa. Oda made it really obvious that it was DBZ that inspired One Piece and it's characters (I think he said so in an SBS). |
Apr 23, 2013 12:59 PM
#165
Calumz said: No he's talking about how in the manga and 1999 version it was Kite that told him that his father was a hunter and gave him his card, which started his desire to become a hunter and see his dad. The 2011 version left that out, which they feel screws up the story.gon no longer has a reason to be a hunter? uhm to find his dad dumbass yhunata said: Because they don't think it is, and most of the time when someone says something like that it's a way to say it copied. Why are you guys even complaining about Mikasa saying One Piece being influenced by Hunter x Hunter? Whether or not One Piece was influenced by One Piece, that doesn't mean it ripped off of HxH. In fact, you could even say it's a good thing. Though really, Mikasa. Oda made it really obvious that it was DBZ that inspired One Piece and it's characters (I think he said so in an SBS). Well he's saying that just that whole "don't tell me, I'll find out on my own" thing is from Hunter x Hunter. Not the rest of the influence of the story which is probably a lot from Dragonball. |
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Apr 23, 2013 2:05 PM
#166
yhunata said: Why are you guys even complaining about Mikasa saying One Piece being influenced by Hunter x Hunter? Whether or not One Piece was influenced by One Piece, that doesn't mean it ripped off of HxH. In fact, you could even say it's a good thing. Though really, Mikasa. Oda made it really obvious that it was DBZ that inspired One Piece and it's characters (I think he said so in an SBS). I think togashi and oda are fans of each others work and are friends i think? i read an sbs thing where they interviewed each other, they seemed rather friendly with each other :P Luffy's answer in one piece was made so dramatic xD |
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Apr 23, 2013 2:40 PM
#167
Calumz said: why? Lol just why???? You don't even know what he's talking about, and you saying it's better than 1999? You haven't even watched it son.HeavenlyUser said: Mikisi said: WHAT THE FUCK THEY DESTROY KITExGON RELATIONSHIP Gon determination after Kite death will be making no sense now... Actually they destroyed the entire purpose of the series. Gon no longer has a reason to be a hunter seeing as Kite never said anything about Gin therefor gon never learned about hunters Paradox stuff right there. gon no longer has a reason to be a hunter? uhm to find his dad dumbass |
Apr 23, 2013 3:46 PM
#168
| Anyone else annoyed that this went from an episode discussion to an Oda vs Togashi influence discussion? I am. :P I'm going to say it one more time: Just because Kite didn't tell Gon about his dad, doesn't mean he couldn't have found out. Oy. |
Apr 24, 2013 1:25 AM
#169
| thats what I'm been telling, not enough reason for Gon to surrender himself to nen, with that kind of relationship bought up. I stick to my review First, Hi guys! I'm new here :) A full fan of Hunter X Hunter universe. I can't help but to express my thoughts about this NEW episode everyone have been waiting for. I voted 1 out of 5. Yes. I have a couple of reasons why. I might add up a spoiler so be cautious.. or I may not since the episode spoiled it itself to the viewer. Reasons 1. Kite(Kaito) and Gon relationship is not like that it is much deeper than that. I was like "Okay, what is happening here madhouse?". 1999 version and the manga had that original relationship and the 2011 had it differently. The first I saw the episode one of this reboot series, I was like "Okay good animation, but it will ruin the rest of the story and leave a hole in the end of greed island be cause they didn't show up kaito at the beginning. Kaito has much more role than to train him, it is not enough "reason" now for Gon to do what he will do. //not spoiling. Kaito is the key why Gon knew the word Hunter. Why Gon knew his dad is alive, and why Gon wants to become a Hunter.. It is all because of that very moment Kaito and Gon crossed path. and in the series they are like forget each other? the.heck. 2. They showed already the Nen Ability of Kaito and they even described it!. I mean that broke the basic law of being a pro hunter. Never show your nen ability to anyone as lightly as that. I mean c'mon. one of the hypes of this arch is to see one by one the nen ablity of Kaito in battle. but they spoiled it up so.. thats already a minus. 3. Kaito never detailedly told his history. What remains unknown should be unknown because theres a reason why it was unknown in the first place. so another minus there. 4. Chimera Ant. Gon stepping in the chimera ant and Killua got biten by one.. really? and kaito even described it too. that also will lead to many cuts in the near future episode. The thing is, I know the manga, I've read it but the essence of reading the information needed to understand what is happening at great timing is much entertaining. same goes with watching. It is much better if they will research for it first and so on. (There shouldn't be a chimera ant there in the first place) 5. In any information out there, Ging never said that thing about the Triple Star Hunter. again there is a reason why. I even searched it myself but it is still a mystery. Currently there are only 3 known Triple Star Hunters.. Yup. people might say, this series has its own story, it is not dependent to the manga or whatsoever. First, it is dependent to the manga no matter what. Madhouse is ruining the golden comeback of Hunter X Hunter. Real good animation no doubt. I even got WOWed with the new Opening seeing (spoilers) Hakoware, Hotel Raffesia, HIDE AND SEEK! and Deep Purple animations at last! I was in tears :> plus the three royal guards! High hopes built up during the Opening and it was crumbled down at the very last of the episode. :( Good thing though that they had a narrator in this reboot because that narrator is going have some kick ass narrating at this arch. He has the most script than the characters. I keep telling myself "this is a filler, this is a filler, this is a filler" but no its not, it will affect the future episodes :( Might stick up watching because of battles and to see the nen ability in actions. but for story, I won't get too attached to what they will build up. Still waiting for the manga :) Well thats all about my rate. I'll wait for manga for story, I've read togashi interview, and there will be at least 3 or 4 more archs to come "So where is HxH? At half? Togashi: Hard to say. I still have five or six stories in mind. If all goes as planned, there should be at least 3 or 4 stories after the ant arc. Course of time, unexpected events occur and fuck up your plans. therefore, OP is more than half?" |
roiabrazaldoApr 24, 2013 1:33 AM
Apr 24, 2013 2:47 AM
#170
| There was no way they could fix this, even a flashback showing chapter 1 wouldn't have much effect |
Apr 24, 2013 5:29 AM
#171
roiabrazaldo said: thats what I'm been telling, not enough reason for Gon to surrender himself to nen, with that kind of relationship bought up. I stick to my review First, Hi guys! I'm new here :) A full fan of Hunter X Hunter universe. I can't help but to express my thoughts about this NEW episode everyone have been waiting for. I voted 1 out of 5. Yes. I have a couple of reasons why. I might add up a spoiler so be cautious.. or I may not since the episode spoiled it itself to the viewer. Reasons 1. Kite(Kaito) and Gon relationship is not like that it is much deeper than that. I was like "Okay, what is happening here madhouse?". 1999 version and the manga had that original relationship and the 2011 had it differently. The first I saw the episode one of this reboot series, I was like "Okay good animation, but it will ruin the rest of the story and leave a hole in the end of greed island be cause they didn't show up kaito at the beginning. Kaito has much more role than to train him, it is not enough "reason" now for Gon to do what he will do. //not spoiling. Kaito is the key why Gon knew the word Hunter. Why Gon knew his dad is alive, and why Gon wants to become a Hunter.. It is all because of that very moment Kaito and Gon crossed path. and in the series they are like forget each other? the.heck. 2. They showed already the Nen Ability of Kaito and they even described it!. I mean that broke the basic law of being a pro hunter. Never show your nen ability to anyone as lightly as that. I mean c'mon. one of the hypes of this arch is to see one by one the nen ablity of Kaito in battle. but they spoiled it up so.. thats already a minus. 3. Kaito never detailedly told his history. What remains unknown should be unknown because theres a reason why it was unknown in the first place. so another minus there. 4. Chimera Ant. Gon stepping in the chimera ant and Killua got biten by one.. really? and kaito even described it too. that also will lead to many cuts in the near future episode. The thing is, I know the manga, I've read it but the essence of reading the information needed to understand what is happening at great timing is much entertaining. same goes with watching. It is much better if they will research for it first and so on. (There shouldn't be a chimera ant there in the first place) 5. In any information out there, Ging never said that thing about the Triple Star Hunter. again there is a reason why. I even searched it myself but it is still a mystery. Currently there are only 3 known Triple Star Hunters.. Yup. people might say, this series has its own story, it is not dependent to the manga or whatsoever. First, it is dependent to the manga no matter what. Madhouse is ruining the golden comeback of Hunter X Hunter. Real good animation no doubt. I even got WOWed with the new Opening seeing (spoilers) Hakoware, Hotel Raffesia, HIDE AND SEEK! and Deep Purple animations at last! I was in tears :> plus the three royal guards! High hopes built up during the Opening and it was crumbled down at the very last of the episode. :( Good thing though that they had a narrator in this reboot because that narrator is going have some kick ass narrating at this arch. He has the most script than the characters. I keep telling myself "this is a filler, this is a filler, this is a filler" but no its not, it will affect the future episodes :( Might stick up watching because of battles and to see the nen ability in actions. but for story, I won't get too attached to what they will build up. Still waiting for the manga :) Well thats all about my rate. I'll wait for manga for story, I've read togashi interview, and there will be at least 3 or 4 more archs to come "So where is HxH? At half? Togashi: Hard to say. I still have five or six stories in mind. If all goes as planned, there should be at least 3 or 4 stories after the ant arc. Course of time, unexpected events occur and fuck up your plans. therefore, OP is more than half?" So much win in your post. That's exactly what i thought. Plus, it was Kite who tells Gon that Hunters are well liked by animals, when he befriends the Foxbear cub |
Apr 24, 2013 12:05 PM
#172
| I think it's pretty obvious who among us are the real retards, it's not the ones that are complaining over madhouse screwing this up, it's also not the ones that are accepting this change, but it's those guys that accept it and brag about doing it while also disdaining and mocking others, using insults as arguments to avoid discussing the subject, really you guys seem like some ostentatious real life failures that desperately seek superiority online, I'll be making a lot of $ off you guys in the near future |
Apr 24, 2013 12:52 PM
#173
Lolack said: I think it's pretty obvious who among us are the real retards, it's not the ones that are complaining over madhouse screwing this up, it's also not the ones that are accepting this change, but it's those guys that accept it and brag about doing it while also disdaining and mocking others, using insults as arguments to avoid discussing the subject, really you guys seem like some ostentatious real life failures that desperately seek superiority online, I'll be making a lot of $ off you guys in the near future Does someone need a tissue to wipe up all of those tears? I already explained how I felt Madhouse didn't ruin some of the most important aspects of Kaito's character and how people, such as yourself are completely overreacting. There is a difference between thinking Madhouse screwed up and saying that one episode ruined the whole series. If you're gonna defend those that say an entire series is ruined by some changes in one episode that, for all we know, could or could not be remedied in the future, then you should really take a step back and reflect on the stupidity that is spewing out your mouth. |
Apr 24, 2013 1:03 PM
#174
fearthebeard85 said: well saying the whole series is ruined is a bit far, but if they don't fix what they screwed up on then wouldn't it ruin one of the biggest moments that happens in HxH? Also, it does sort of leave a plot hole in the series if you're a manga reader or watched the 1999 version.Once again, I will sit here and completely laugh my ass off at the dumb people who are sitting here saying "the series is ruined". |
Apr 24, 2013 1:26 PM
#175
Alexx_ said: ... but if they don't fix what they screwed up on then wouldn't it ruin one of the biggest moments that happens in HxH? The thing is that this is an /adaption/ of the manga, not the manga itself. Much like a book-turned-movie, the creators and director will often go in a slightly different direction because they feel it is a better way to interpret the story on screen. While I love the manga, and understand people not liking the change, I think we need to give Madhouse a chance to show where they are going with this. While I don't think I feel that it is a major a change as others might feel it is, I know it could have an effect. I also feel it isn't as big a deal as many have proclaimed. In a matter of days/weeks during the exam, Gon came to form three strong friendships. One led him and two others to travel to another continent to seek a friend that left. I truly believe he would have died for Killua at that point, despite having known him for a short time. Gon and Killua will be spending at /least/ a month with Kite (going by the manga timeline), and will be able to have so much time for him to tell stories of Ging, or to just help guide the young Hunters. Do you really think Gon can't get attached to a friend in this time period? Yes, it was time "off screen" in the manga, but that doesn't mean the time wasn't spent. Plus, when Kite sends Gon and Killua off and they don't stay and fight, the /guilt/ at leaving him behind helps drive Gon to do what he does. He feels responsible for what happened. His character, I believe, would have hi feel responsible for /anyone/ who he left behind like that. So, honestly, I don't see the problem. Anything having to do with learning that Ging was a Hunter, or getting the license... that can all be explained away. Mito, Grandma/Great Aunt or Whale Island residents... Whatever. Okay. I'm done with it. I've stated my peace multiple times, and I likely should have just listened to others and let the complaints pass over, but I can't help it. I'm annoyed. Not at any one person, just at the lack of allowance for adaption. :P |
Apr 24, 2013 1:30 PM
#176
| It's not they didn't realize what they were changing. This was planned and Madhouse has a reason for doing this. They have made a lot of minor changes to the series and it's always turned out fine. I think the complaints madhouse is getting on this forum is kind of unnecessary since we don't really know how their changes will pan out. |
Apr 24, 2013 1:57 PM
#177
| This show IS fucking ruined. Who the fuck is that fucking green mushroom headed faggot? I swear to god if he is the main villian or something I am dropping this series. |
Apr 24, 2013 9:08 PM
#178
| Great episode. It's a bit slow going, but I'm excited to get into the next arc of the series. Also can't wait for the Phantom Troupe to show back up again. Whoo, Chimera Ant arc! |
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Apr 24, 2013 9:57 PM
#179
zoleth said: You should really read what you write, the first sentence was literally one of the dumbest thing an apologist can come up with so then Bakuman, uchuu kyoudai aren't adaptation of the manga itself? Lol, You should use this argument in the Magi threads when it was airing see the kind of reaction you would've gotten. Many "book turned movies" aren't altered such as Harry Potter, LOTR etc.Alexx_ said: ... but if they don't fix what they screwed up on then wouldn't it ruin one of the biggest moments that happens in HxH? The thing is that this is an /adaption/ of the manga, not the manga itself. Much like a book-turned-movie, the creators and director will often go in a slightly different direction because they feel it is a better way to interpret the story on screen. While I love the manga, and understand people not liking the change, I think we need to give Madhouse a chance to show where they are going with this. While I don't think I feel that it is a major a change as others might feel it is, I know it could have an effect. I also feel it isn't as big a deal as many have proclaimed. In a matter of days/weeks during the exam, Gon came to form three strong friendships. One led him and two others to travel to another continent to seek a friend that left. I truly believe he would have died for Killua at that point, despite having known him for a short time. Gon and Killua will be spending at /least/ a month with Kite (going by the manga timeline), and will be able to have so much time for him to tell stories of Ging, or to just help guide the young Hunters. Do you really think Gon can't get attached to a friend in this time period? Yes, it was time "off screen" in the manga, but that doesn't mean the time wasn't spent. Plus, when Kite sends Gon and Killua off and they don't stay and fight, the /guilt/ at leaving him behind helps drive Gon to do what he does. He feels responsible for what happened. His character, I believe, would have hi feel responsible for /anyone/ who he left behind like that. So, honestly, I don't see the problem. Anything having to do with learning that Ging was a Hunter, or getting the license... that can all be explained away. Mito, Grandma/Great Aunt or Whale Island residents... Whatever. Okay. I'm done with it. I've stated my peace multiple times, and I likely should have just listened to others and let the complaints pass over, but I can't help it. I'm annoyed. Not at any one person, just at the lack of allowance for adaption. :P Whilst I do agree that he developed a strong friendship overtime with the gang in exam, it was actually showed rather than said though in the manga it wasn't really said nor showed that much because kaitos time was cut really short A lot of what you said it just PURE speculation regarding Kaito and Gon since it's already been shown in the manga so I can't really take it into account. I think Madhouse intended to the end the series at Greed Island seeing how CA arc is the only arc they announced that they were going to adapt it even stated that it was supposed to be "shocking news". The reason why I reacted the way I did is because I am a long time huge avid HxH fan whose gotten attach to it. I'm sure you can see difference in fans. Also, I never stated the arc was ruined and exaggerated like Mikasa I just simply stated that the one of the biggest moments in HxH is ruined though I can proved wrong, but I still have faith in Madhouse |
RX-782Apr 24, 2013 10:17 PM
Apr 25, 2013 12:34 AM
#180
Alexx_ said: Also, I never stated the arc was ruined and exaggerated like Mikasa I just simply stated that the one of the biggest moments in HxH is ruined though I can proved wrong, but I still have faith in Madhouse Note, at the end of my post I said this: "I'm annoyed. Not at any one person, just at the lack of allowance for adaption." I literally put that in there to where you would not feel that I had directed my post at you, and yet... nope. Listen, I never once said /you/ overreacted. I never said names. I was replying to the general misunderstanding as to what an adaption is. Now, this next part is directed at you, but only because you attacked what I said and questioned my intelligence. Excuse it, and take it for what it is worth, please. Alexx_ said: You should really read what you write, the first sentence was literally one of the dumbest thing an apologist can come up with so then Bakuman, uchuu kyoudai aren't adaptation of the manga itself? Lol, You should use this argument in the Magi threads when it was airing see the kind of reaction you would've gotten. Many "book turned movies" aren't altered such as Harry Potter, LOTR etc. Hahahahaha. Bad examples to use. Have you /read/ LOTR or Harry Potter? I assume you have, since you state this so flippantly. However, you must not have paid much attention. There are major things the movie leaves out or moves around. Or totally adds. Two Towers, for example, at the Battle of Helms Deep. The elves. While a great scene... did not happen in the book. It just didn't. For me, as a major LOTR fan, this was a huge change. Here, found this for you to look at: http://www.theonering.com/complete-list-of-film-changes Also: http://www.craveonline.com/film/articles/171155-the-top-ten-things-the-harry-potter-movies-left-out And sorry, but do you read? You say I said something "dumb", yet it is hilarious that you do not understand my statement. You ask me if I read you I wrote, and yet it seems like you haven't read it yourself. Or you just don't understand the word "adaption". An ADAPTION is this: A movie, television drama, or stage play that has been adapted from a written work, typically a novel. Adapted is defined as: Make (something) suitable for a new use or purpose; modify. Note the word modify. I did not say it wasn't an adaption of the manga. Actually, I did. I stressed the fact that it was an adaption, and that they would modify things to suit their own purposes. Before you attack what a person writes, read it. My basic premise is that people who are manga purists (I love the manga) don't allow room for the anime adaption to make the modifications they want to, the will help fit their style of telling this awesome story. I didn't think I needed to define things. Sorry. Alexx_ said: A lot of what you said it just PURE speculation regarding Kaito and Gon since it's already been shown in the manga so I can't really take it into account. It is, because we only have /one/ episode to go on. I was presenting a path the studio /could/ take. One I would understand. |
Apr 25, 2013 4:10 PM
#181
zoleth said: Touche about the lotr and HP I literally pulled those examples out of thin air thinking you wouldn't actually look into google, but anyways I noticed how you didn't prove me wrong towards Uchuu Kyoudai So, it's nice that you proved me wrong about the book/movies but that doesn't excuse you of being an apologist for trying to compare anime/manga to books/movies.Alexx_ said: Also, I never stated the arc was ruined and exaggerated like Mikasa I just simply stated that the one of the biggest moments in HxH is ruined though I can proved wrong, but I still have faith in Madhouse Note, at the end of my post I said this: "I'm annoyed. Not at any one person, just at the lack of allowance for adaption." I literally put that in there to where you would not feel that I had directed my post at you, and yet... nope. Listen, I never once said /you/ overreacted. I never said names. I was replying to the general misunderstanding as to what an adaption is. Now, this next part is directed at you, but only because you attacked what I said and questioned my intelligence. Excuse it, and take it for what it is worth, please. Alexx_ said: You should really read what you write, the first sentence was literally one of the dumbest thing an apologist can come up with so then Bakuman, uchuu kyoudai aren't adaptation of the manga itself? Lol, You should use this argument in the Magi threads when it was airing see the kind of reaction you would've gotten. Many "book turned movies" aren't altered such as Harry Potter, LOTR etc. Hahahahaha. Bad examples to use. Have you /read/ LOTR or Harry Potter? I assume you have, since you state this so flippantly. However, you must not have paid much attention. There are major things the movie leaves out or moves around. Or totally adds. Two Towers, for example, at the Battle of Helms Deep. The elves. While a great scene... did not happen in the book. It just didn't. For me, as a major LOTR fan, this was a huge change. Here, found this for you to look at: http://www.theonering.com/complete-list-of-film-changes Also: http://www.craveonline.com/film/articles/171155-the-top-ten-things-the-harry-potter-movies-left-out And sorry, but do you read? You say I said something "dumb", yet it is hilarious that you do not understand my statement. You ask me if I read you I wrote, and yet it seems like you haven't read it yourself. Or you just don't understand the word "adaption". An ADAPTION is this: A movie, television drama, or stage play that has been adapted from a written work, typically a novel. Adapted is defined as: Make (something) suitable for a new use or purpose; modify. Note the word modify. I did not say it wasn't an adaption of the manga. Actually, I did. I stressed the fact that it was an adaption, and that they would modify things to suit their own purposes. Before you attack what a person writes, read it. My basic premise is that people who are manga purists (I love the manga) don't allow room for the anime adaption to make the modifications they want to, the will help fit their style of telling this awesome story. I didn't think I needed to define things. Sorry. Alexx_ said: A lot of what you said it just PURE speculation regarding Kaito and Gon since it's already been shown in the manga so I can't really take it into account. It is, because we only have /one/ episode to go on. I was presenting a path the studio /could/ take. One I would understand. I know what adaptation fucking means, doesn't excuse the fact that MH created a plothole in the beginning and that there's been many many adaptations that have faithful adaptations, the only thing MH does judging from Claymore and One Outs is give anime original ending, so don't go around hiding behind a 2nd MAL account acting your some intelligent cunt, shoving down your speculation down our throats, we get it, you want people to be open to what MH has presented and not everyone likes it, me it bugged but I'm over it already. and we're taking this way farther than it should've so I'm done. |
Apr 25, 2013 5:04 PM
#182
| Don't talk about zoleth like that. /you/ /aren't/ /cool/ /enough/ |
Apr 26, 2013 4:58 AM
#183
Alexx_ said: Touche about the lotr and HP I literally pulled those examples out of thin air thinking you wouldn't actually look into google, but anyways I noticed how you didn't prove me wrong towards Uchuu Kyoudai So, it's nice that you proved me wrong about the book/movies but that doesn't excuse you of being an apologist for trying to compare anime/manga to books/movies. I can't prove you wrong towards Uchuu Kyoudai. I have never watched it. I likely won't. I don't need to, because whether it is a manga, book or comic does not matter in the scheme of things. All adaptions of any media will make changes. At least, that is my opinion. And yes, we have likely gone farther than necessary, and I am sorry for anything you might have taken offensively. You did call me dumb, though. :P Leaulux said: Don't talk about zoleth like that. /you/ /aren't/ /cool/ /enough/ Of course Alexx_ is. Anyone with a 'xx' in their name is. Though, the cursing was interesting. :D Oh, and Leaulux? Your signature totally... hypothesized me or something. Seriously started writing and it was there... then, about 30 seconds later I realized I was staring at it and had typed only three words. Crazy. |
Apr 26, 2013 9:18 AM
#184
| The thing is that the Madhouse rewrite makes perfect sense in the context it's in. Kite goes to Whale Island in search of Ging, meets Gon and then leaves. The conversation they have in episode 76 is basically an extended one of the one they had in chapter 1. So it basically has the same effect. Kite didn't stay with Gon that long anyway back in chapter 1. And you can still create a good relationship for Kite and even learn more about him. In the end Gon still respects Kite for saving him and being the hunter his father respected. A hunter that is kind of like him. Which was the point of Killua smiling while watching them talk. So it's all still there, just moved around a little bit. So they manage to work around without straying too far. It's not like the Nippon Anime making Mito and Gon's mom sisters or anything. |
Apr 26, 2013 3:53 PM
#185
bleachjoj said: The thing is that the Madhouse rewrite makes perfect sense in the context it's in. Kite goes to Whale Island in search of Ging, meets Gon and then leaves. The conversation they have in episode 76 is basically an extended one of the one they had in chapter 1. So it basically has the same effect. Kite didn't stay with Gon that long anyway back in chapter 1. And you can still create a good relationship for Kite and even learn more about him. In the end Gon still respects Kite for saving him and being the hunter his father respected. A hunter that is kind of like him. Which was the point of Killua smiling while watching them talk. So it's all still there, just moved around a little bit. So they manage to work around without straying too far. It's not like the Nippon Anime making Mito and Gon's mom sisters or anything. But it doesn't make sense that Gon didn't recognized someone who saved his life. |
Apr 26, 2013 4:30 PM
#186
Salce said: bleachjoj said: The thing is that the Madhouse rewrite makes perfect sense in the context it's in. Kite goes to Whale Island in search of Ging, meets Gon and then leaves. The conversation they have in episode 76 is basically an extended one of the one they had in chapter 1. So it basically has the same effect. Kite didn't stay with Gon that long anyway back in chapter 1. And you can still create a good relationship for Kite and even learn more about him. In the end Gon still respects Kite for saving him and being the hunter his father respected. A hunter that is kind of like him. Which was the point of Killua smiling while watching them talk. So it's all still there, just moved around a little bit. So they manage to work around without straying too far. It's not like the Nippon Anime making Mito and Gon's mom sisters or anything. But it doesn't make sense that Gon didn't recognized someone who saved his life. I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. |
bewareofhisokaApr 27, 2013 11:53 AM
Apr 27, 2013 3:46 AM
#187
bewareofhisoka said: I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. True that, it makes sense for Gon not to instantly recognise Kite. But in the manga, Kite doesn't just save Gon. He tells Gon everything about Hunters and Ging. Kite is, in other words, the main reason why Gon even wanted to become a Hunter himself. Kite is the reason why Gon became so interested in Ging. And that, plus some stuff that will be happening in the near future, lead to a relationship between Gon and Kite that becomes the defining moment of this arc (the future stuff alone won't be creating that much of a relationship). I'm not trying to sound like a jerk whose pissed Madhouse went away from the manga, but the thing is, this hole they've created is something they're gonna have to fill up. As I said in my first post, if Madhouse can fill it, Kudos to them. If they fail, this arc won't live up to the same standards of the manga. |
Apr 27, 2013 5:09 AM
#188
yhunata said: bewareofhisoka said: I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. True that, it makes sense for Gon not to instantly recognise Kite. But in the manga, Kite doesn't just save Gon Well here's the kicker, he only saves Gon at that point in the anime Everything you say after, being mostly "It's not like the manga therefore it might suck", has no context to what they were talking about previously not that it isn't valid but you're connecting two unrelated things in that particular argument |
HybridMBLApr 27, 2013 5:50 AM
Apr 27, 2013 5:43 AM
#189
Hybridbloodszak said: yhunata said: bewareofhisoka said: I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. True that, it makes sense for Gon not to instantly recognise Kite. But in the manga, Kite doesn't just save Gon Well here's the kicker, he only saves Gon at that point in the anime Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before being mostly "It's not like the manga" (i.e reread bleachjoj's post) not that it isn't valid but you're connecting two unrelated things in that particular argument Why did you ignore the part where I said that if Madhouse fills the hole they created, I'm completely fine with it? Also, I agreed with bleachjoj saying that it made sense for Gon to not recognise Kite immediately, since Kite only saved him in the anime and didn't have a talk with him or anything of the like. It seems you're the one who didn't read my post. |
Apr 27, 2013 5:51 AM
#190
yhunata said: Hybridbloodszak said: yhunata said: bewareofhisoka said: I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. True that, it makes sense for Gon not to instantly recognise Kite. But in the manga, Kite doesn't just save Gon Well here's the kicker, he only saves Gon at that point in the anime Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before being mostly "It's not like the manga" (i.e reread bleachjoj's post) not that it isn't valid but you're connecting two unrelated things in that particular argument Why did you ignore the part where I said that if Madhouse fills the hole they created, I'm completely fine with it? Also, I agreed with bleachjoj saying that it made sense for Gon to not recognise Kite immediately, since Kite only saved him in the anime and didn't have a talk with him or anything of the like. It seems you're the one who didn't read my post. Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before in the previous argument. I didn't dismiss it however you were focusing on my aside in middle of what I said |
HybridMBLApr 27, 2013 6:01 AM
Apr 27, 2013 5:58 AM
#191
Hybridbloodszak said: yhunata said: Hybridbloodszak said: yhunata said: bewareofhisoka said: I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. True that, it makes sense for Gon not to instantly recognise Kite. But in the manga, Kite doesn't just save Gon Well here's the kicker, he only saves Gon at that point in the anime Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before being mostly "It's not like the manga" (i.e reread bleachjoj's post) not that it isn't valid but you're connecting two unrelated things in that particular argument Why did you ignore the part where I said that if Madhouse fills the hole they created, I'm completely fine with it? Also, I agreed with bleachjoj saying that it made sense for Gon to not recognise Kite immediately, since Kite only saved him in the anime and didn't have a talk with him or anything of the like. It seems you're the one who didn't read my post. Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before in the previous argument. I didn't ignore it if you read my post. You were focusing on my mini aside in middle Well then. Should I have said I was giving some input of my own as a sort of elaboration or should I have just put that in a different paragraph? |
Apr 27, 2013 6:07 AM
#192
| Just watched the 75th episode now. Aside from a change of storyline about Kite's part, I notice that Ging's different faces. (lol) And so I consider this as a filler, and I didn't like it :( New Ending Song? Not so like ~ |
| If I became a Hunter, I can catch all my family member and sell them for high price |
Apr 27, 2013 6:18 AM
#193
yhunata said: Hybridbloodszak said: yhunata said: Hybridbloodszak said: yhunata said: bewareofhisoka said: I think it makes more sense and realistic for Gon not to recognize someone instantly for someone he hasn't seen in years especially if he last saw him as a little boy. True that, it makes sense for Gon not to instantly recognise Kite. But in the manga, Kite doesn't just save Gon Well here's the kicker, he only saves Gon at that point in the anime Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before being mostly "It's not like the manga" (i.e reread bleachjoj's post) not that it isn't valid but you're connecting two unrelated things in that particular argument Why did you ignore the part where I said that if Madhouse fills the hole they created, I'm completely fine with it? Also, I agreed with bleachjoj saying that it made sense for Gon to not recognise Kite immediately, since Kite only saved him in the anime and didn't have a talk with him or anything of the like. It seems you're the one who didn't read my post. Everything you say after has no context to what they were talking about before in the previous argument. I didn't ignore it if you read my post. You were focusing on my mini aside in middle Well then. Should I have said I was giving some input of my own as a sort of elaboration or should I have just put that in a different paragraph? A different paragraph would have sufficed, if it was elaborated on. :P Here's the argument summation: In the manga, it makes sense that the recognize each other, because Gon spent more time with Kite and he played a different role in things. Still, I think it should have taken a little longer. In the anime, it makes sense that they didn't recognize each other right away. Gon had been young, and had only the briefest encounter with Kite. Plus, after he and Killua show up they don't really have much time to think about it. They way they had them realize they knew each other was very well done. |
Apr 27, 2013 9:57 AM
#194
cbsky said: Just watched the 75th episode now. Aside from a change of storyline about Kite's part, I notice that Ging's different faces. (lol) And so I consider this as a filler, and I didn't like it :( New Ending Song? Not so like ~ It wasn't all filler. It was just some stuff mixed in the canon to help you get to know Kite. Anyways imo Ging looks different everytime he is shown on screen. It seems like MH has trouble with his character design or something. |
Apr 27, 2013 11:16 AM
#195
bewareofhisoka said: Most of it was, Kites flashback with Ging was never shown before.cbsky said: Just watched the 75th episode now. Aside from a change of storyline about Kite's part, I notice that Ging's different faces. (lol) And so I consider this as a filler, and I didn't like it :( New Ending Song? Not so like ~ It wasn't all filler. It was just some stuff mixed in the canon to help you get to know Kite. Anyways imo Ging looks different everytime he is shown on screen. It seems like MH has trouble with his character design or something. |
Apr 27, 2013 12:51 PM
#196
bewareofhisoka said: cbsky said: Just watched the 75th episode now. Aside from a change of storyline about Kite's part, I notice that Ging's different faces. (lol) And so I consider this as a filler, and I didn't like it :( New Ending Song? Not so like ~ It wasn't all filler. It was just some stuff mixed in the canon to help you get to know Kite. Anyways imo Ging looks different everytime he is shown on screen. It seems like MH has trouble with his character design or something. No there is a reason Ging looks different every-time. It depends on when it took place. |
Apr 27, 2013 5:14 PM
#197
bleachjoj said: bewareofhisoka said: cbsky said: Just watched the 75th episode now. Aside from a change of storyline about Kite's part, I notice that Ging's different faces. (lol) And so I consider this as a filler, and I didn't like it :( New Ending Song? Not so like ~ It wasn't all filler. It was just some stuff mixed in the canon to help you get to know Kite. Anyways imo Ging looks different everytime he is shown on screen. It seems like MH has trouble with his character design or something. No there is a reason Ging looks different every-time. It depends on when it took place. It's more of the manga's problem. In manga Ging looked different every time he appears, more so than the anime. |
Apr 27, 2013 5:17 PM
#198
kcaco said: bleachjoj said: bewareofhisoka said: cbsky said: Just watched the 75th episode now. Aside from a change of storyline about Kite's part, I notice that Ging's different faces. (lol) And so I consider this as a filler, and I didn't like it :( New Ending Song? Not so like ~ It wasn't all filler. It was just some stuff mixed in the canon to help you get to know Kite. Anyways imo Ging looks different everytime he is shown on screen. It seems like MH has trouble with his character design or something. No there is a reason Ging looks different every-time. It depends on when it took place. It's more of the manga's problem. In manga Ging looked different every time he appears, more so than the anime. Totally agree there, could barely tell it was ging half the time in the manga, sometimes he seemed like he was about 5 years old >.> |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
May 30, 2013 1:17 PM
#199
Jun 10, 2013 9:28 PM
#200
| Holy shit, new OP song. Mm, so I guess this is the start of the Chimera arc. I like this Kite guy tbh. He has this sense of style that I'm catching on. |
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