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| Dude, this show, was fire!! It reminded me so much of a mix between Psycho Pass and Akame ga Kill. The story was super interesting (took me a bit to get into it tbh), i really enjoyed all of the twists and turns it had, the action, the characters, some of them were way better than others, but the overall thing, man i really liked this, it's so good! Really sad about this bittersweet ending though, but i think it was a good one nevertheless. Solid 8/10, engaging af show |
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| I started this anime without any expectations and damn did it surprise me. The soundtrack and visuals are great and the characters are interesting, this was one of the better series of the season. The last episode was stunning and serves as a fitting end for this series. 9/10 |
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Hyperversum said: I mean, it's clear from the fucking start that any "main character" beyond Swindler will be a mostly 2d character defined by one primary motivation. By episode 10, it's clear that the end will be about what the fuck happens to the kids and possibly to the city as a result of all that nice police brutality and what's basically a regime based on the people believing that the "Akudama" are supermegaiper villains when they generally seem to be just criminals and the actual motivation that gets them the death penalty is being against the government (and then there are of course the actual psychos like Cutthroat, but it's clear that he is an exception). Well yeah, that's the principle of 3 act stories, by the end of the second act you're just getting ready for the resolution of the story in the third act expecting everything to be tied up neatly, not to create more questions or make the characters act in a contrived and uncharacteristic way (like Courier did in the last 2 episodes) or introduce even more props to slow down the protagonists (that makes you wonder why didn't the executioners use their big boy toys in the beginning) Hyperversum said: Even so, there are people that fail to see it and go out of their way to speak off "underdeveloped character", "no worldbuilding" and bs of this level. And don't get me wrong, I am not saying that you (general "you", not anyone specifically) are stupid or you taste is shit, because of course not. You have all the right in the world to not like something, it would be absurd to say otherwise. But for God's sake recognize what is your taste and what is throwing buzzwords around to justify your taste as if it was an objective definition of what's good and what isn't. What you're saying here is "shut your brain and enjoy the ride" and on paper it's a good idea. But in reality it's really hard to do so when there's no limitation stablished in the early stages of what these people can do or cannot and why something they could do i previous situations out of the blue they don't work anymore (like Doctor being unable to heal herself and allowed a mob to kill her). There's a reason why the term "jump the shark" exists, and it varies from people to people. You can't expect everyone to settle to your very own personal bar, that's just ridiculous. Hyperversum said: This series doesn't give backgrounds because they aren't relevant, the characters are defined by their actions and aren't the center of the story anyway (apart from Swindler's arc). This series doesn't give a big ass worldbuilding because isn't about it, it's about this specific series of events, the effect they have on the characters and their own little world. Alright, based on what do you make such a bold claim that backgrounds aren't needed nor relevant? Or that the world building isn't important because it's all about the very specific events that impact the protagonists and their enviroment. If the series was a character driven show maybe you could get away with your wild idea, but the series was always a plot driven one with a very specific goal as soon as the 2 kids were introduced. The whole setting is based in a futuristic world with regions so split apart that they might as well be categorized as small countries, yet there's no explanation to this, or why is Kansai the personal guard dog of Kanto when Kanto is nothing but a bunch of floating rocks governed by a supercomputer. It's not a highschool anime with a very copy/paste setting. As a writer you need to give life to the sorroundings where your main characters will use as a playground, otherwise, your work is just hollow and pointless. I'm not saying that the writer should use a huge chunk of episodes to show how this society came to this state, but at least give a short prologue giving valid reasons how it all started. Even something as old and popcorn-ish like Mad Max had a short but concise introduction on how their society crumbled down to the point of becoming gas scavengers. Hyperversum said: You are entitled to your taste, but if you want to give a serious opinion that tries to be objective you have to be in the framework of the product you are analyzing. You don't judge Evangelion by the same metric you judge One Piece or Haruhi, you don't judge a 12 episode anime original that doesn't focus on characters as you would judge a series like "March comes in like a Lion", which gets 24 episode for season, a manga source material and has a completely different framework. The best example (and I won't quote the comment because who cares) is going on a tangent about "plot-holes" in a series where a goddamn motorcycle has a railgun mounted on it and ignores any rule of physics by jumping around like it was made of air. I'm speaking for myself only, but I do believe that I'm using a mindset of "popcorn entertainment" wich is already a low bar, and even that, Akudama can't even stay believeable or consistant in it's own grounds because it never stablishes a ceiling for the characters to stay within bounds. Executioners ranged from god almighty to just pencil-necks when it was convenient for the plot, Hacker was a ridiculous plot device that would solve any computer related problem with just a few mashes on his keyboard (wich is just a pretty lame and cheap new standard) Doctor as I claimed couldn't heal herself when she needed it the most, or that The Swindler can brainwash every single citizen by just doing a twirl like a magical girl and calling herself THE SWINDLER. There are pretty good popcorn entertainment out there, like RedLine. It doesn't need more than 95 mins to stablish the setting, present the characters and set the limitations of their machines to present itself. It doesn't add pointless plotlines that goes nowhere (like the moon being crushed by nukes). I did evaluate Akudama in the same grounds as RedLine and still it felt more like a nonsensical shitpost anime just like Pop Team Epic. Hyperversum said: It's the same principle behind why so many reviews miss the point of "Your Name". Yeah, the plot isn't "nitpicky nerd-prood", but that's not their point. You aren't watching Akudama Drive or Your Name for a perfectly written series of cause-effect relationships, you don't watch them for 2deep4u character interactions, you watch (and should judge them) for what they actually try to accomplish (respectively "an actual cyberpunk story with a dose of action eyecandy about a normal person thrown in a world of violence, where she doesnt' budge from her morality, about choosing to live with purpose rather than simply surviving" and " alove story with magic to make you feel things, not to challenge your brain cells"). I feel you're being a hypocrite in here. You previously mentioned that people were entitled to their own taste. But now you're talking of a very unified way of watching and critizing certain shows and I feel like you're climbing on top of a soapbox in order to call yourself an exemplary beacon. Like seriously, who cares how people enjoy their media? there are plenty of people that over analize "Your name" others that take it very lightly, others that are too nitpicky and hate it. They all have their own perception of their media, and that's very respectable. Hyperversum said: Would you go watch Utena expecting straightforward storytelling and a cast of all likeable characters? Would you read/watch Higurashi and expect a fully functional story, with questions and answers all together rather than put in different perspectives? Would you watch a romance like Wotakoi and don't expect characters to have some trope-y behaviour? Well, duh, that's why there's this thing called "expectations". Not everybody is going to read a whole detailed synopsis with posible spoilers of a series before they even start it. A lot of people like me go completely blind and judge based on the early premise and check if the goals set by the writer were met by the end (if we even finish the whole thing) Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeJan 1, 2021 2:03 AM
| Rushed ending, but at least everyone had their moments until the very end. Would say I want more but I think leaving it like this is good enough.  |
| First half was kinda cold 7/10. Second half was just disappointing. I will not state my reasoning on why, bc no one will read this anyways. 4/10 |
| Binging this from start to finish Damn, The Pacing is almost flawless. Beginning with a Bang to introduce characters in first episode. and then going off crazy to establish groundwork of the work in the next 4 episode while being pretty action heave and eccentric looking. And them in span of 3 episodes, turn things into the Darker aspects of itself and Turn the tides by speeding up the pacing in the next 3 episode, and then Again Wrap it all in an Epic final Episode. Easy 10/10 Plot wise, especially considering it's a 12 episode Anime. It does NOTHING innovative. But It's themes are actually consistent and It's one of those Anime that had a clear vision and point from start to finish. Characters and their Designs are on-point. Their Deaths serve a purpose throughout the Story The Production Value is over the Top, Holy Shit Pierrot, You've done it finally And it also has a Banger OP Can't think of a lot of 12 episode anime that Start and wrap itself as clean as Akudama Drive for me |
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| bittersweet ending but holy shit this anime was fucking good |
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| another show that suffered from being 1 cour. It was beautiful. Some bits were rushed and some just dont make sense but its not a series that'll you'll forget easily. I feel that it tried to be edgy but it is what it is. It wasn't as good as I hoped it would be so 8/10 |
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| The beginning was nice, with all the akudama fighting together, but then it became bad when they split up, and the ending was mostly bad, except for the death on the cross, which seemed to be a Christian symbol, meaning that the creator probably had the good intention of indirectly defending God's truth. I thought the cutthroat would be my favorite character, and he basically was until his character got completely fucked up and ended up trying to kill the girl and then killed by her, so I didn't care much for his death. The Courier had a robotic arm, so I couldn't get to like him, and the same goes for the Hacker with that eerie eyepatch and cap that give the impression that he may have united machine with his body, which is fucked up if that was the case, though that really became the case in the end, as he turned into a virtual thing before dying. The Swindler was extremely cringeworthy most of the time, and her looks with short hair didn't help her case. The Doctor was likeable with "her" Komaeda's voice, and "she" didn't really stop being likeable even after betraying the group, but then he became repulsive when he revealed that he was actually an old man who probably cut his own dick to look like a woman through his own surgeries. So the only characters that were really likeable from beginning to end were Knuckles and the police couple, especially the man probably mostlly because of Ootsuka Akio's voice. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” β Saint Augustine |
FlamepriesT said: A great show with a few issues: * Did they ever explain how the brother got all that money to hire the akudama and how exactly he managed to get in touch with them? * They could have given us a little more information regarding the doctor's betrayal. Just basic things like when and how they got in touch would have been enough. * The whole thing about Shikoku come out of nowhere. We basically know nothing about the place and never get to see it at the end of episode 12. Had these aspects of the story been a little more polished, I would give this show a 9 right away. Now, I'm not so sure. This sums everything up pretty well. Also, I cannot help but wonder how the quantum computer works... Writers/Directors should really stop throwing "quantums" around to avoid having to explain things. Lastly, the characters oftentimes felt too simplistic although many of them "played their part" in the plot very well despite being so one-sided. Otherwise a visually impressive show. I'll miss it along with the Courier <3 |
TwiggyWaspJan 3, 2021 2:07 AM
Swagernator said: deg said: is she the first evil transgender in anime? No she's first evil transgender in anime that actually is not an evil transgender. That is the first mind-breaking comment that actually isn't mind-breaking, that break my mind! |
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
| And here we are at the end of this wild ride. While this final episode was a little rushed, this was a satisfactory bittersweet ending. I do wish that it expanded on the aftermath of the riots, what happened with the executioners, the executioner with the eye patch, and where the siblings finally went to. It just feels like there were too many loose ends that need tying up. Overall though, this was a hell of a ride, and was much better than I think anyone expected it to be. With its bombastic fight scenes, striking visual style, and excellent directing, this has a strong case for AOTS. In later episodes, this also proved that it can also handle quiet and reflective scenes just as well as the loud and flashy action sequences that put it on the map to begin with. Vocal performances were also stellar, especially by Swindler and Cutthroat's voice actors. However, I do believe it lacked world building, such as explaining the executioners and the reason for the existence of Akudamas. I think character wise this was a mixed bag, because characters like Swindler, Hoodlum, and the Siblings got really strong development. I especially loved seeing Swindler become more and more capable. But other characters felt a little one dimensional. I also hate the fact they left the eye-patch Executioner out to dry. It felt as though they were building something for her, but it ultimately ended up as nothing. Really disappointing in that respect. The lesson it shared was once again man's desperate attempt to claim immortality (which seems to be a big cyberpunk genre theme), and the evils of a tyrannical and all powerful government. And while I get what it was saying, there could be room for improvement. Despite everything, I had a total blast. Studio Perriot should be proud of the work they've done. I think this series will be contentious, with debates on whether it's a modern classic or an overly ambitious flop, but ultimately I believe it will turn into a cult classic. Thanks for the memories, you Akudama you. 8/10 |
| So this turned out to be a mess. Also, too bad it turned out to be a mix Akame ga Kill 2.0 + Dangaronpa + Psycho Pass Additionally, there is this empty ending even though it´s an original work. 4/10, maybe 5 |
TechOtakuJan 3, 2021 2:45 PM
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| One of the amazing anime of 2020. What if? This is all a dream and they're inside of Kanto |
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| Best cyberpunk has to offer in 2020. Heh  |
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| So the kids escaped but it is left unclear what their destination is. Not as satisfying of an ending as I hoped. For all we know, at the end of that tunnel is just a wasteland leftovers of the perished civilization. Overall I want to say it was a fun watch, but most of it seem to be due to a high budget animation. I can see why it can be popular with the kids though, fairly easy to distract people with edgy expressions and flashy explosions. Meanwhile, I was too busy nitpicking at plotholes such as how the Doctor managed to sew back on her head and body off screen and then struggle so much with one carotid before dying. |
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| I was not expecting them all to die! I really wanted the Ordinary Person and Courier to live! And her dead was so sad...Execution's chief dead was well deserved and the rebellion was nice, but in the end, it was not the citizen free will, it was control again... |
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| Pretty solid ending imo. All of them dying was somewhat expected - they had no chance for normal lives. What I liked the most was how Swindler actually became swindler. Her first real swindle was lying that she is a swindler... but by the end she really manipulated people. I just really wish some side parts were developed more: stuff like Executioners or Kanto opened interesting topics that were just left there. |
JustAnotherShiroJan 13, 2021 12:54 PM
| Man what a ride this anime was. I didn't expect to enjoy it as much as I did. Swindler's death and the massive movement that sparked after, Courier's death.. holy shit, even though Courier's character, or any of the akudamas' characters, weren't too well developed I couldn't help but feel so sad about it all. This anime was really good for me. |
| truly marvellous and fantastic but at the same time emotionally sad! 5/5. 8/10. |
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| So Swindler lived up to her name!!! She caused an uprising in the last moments thanks to the Hacker's program!! That little girl killing the Executioner was Dark AF!!! Though a well deserved ending for those Executioners!!! R.I.P Swindler and Courier. |
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| First and last episode were the best. I believe it needed just a couple more to fully tell the story it wanted to tell, but that finale was truly great and delivered. Honestly would've loved to see this anime as 2 cours even, but luckily it didn't fall part despite getting pretty ambitious in the storytelling department at the end. That aside, animation and direction sold the shit out of the story. I just can't believe Pierrot delivered so damn hard. |
| I'm still crying about the kids. I felt each hug omg they were so adorable. I can't do these shows where kids go through suffering they don't understand even why. After Grave of the fireflies and clannad it was all downhill for me. TT^TT |
| Jesus what a trainwreck. I kept watching since it had a lot of potential. But from the moment the children were in the show everything started to crumble. A million holes in this story and the logic is rarely found. Such a shame. These kids were made as an offering. For what? Why should I care? What is their purpose of being immortal and why should we feel sad for them? Why are they escaping and for what purpose, if theyre immortal anyway? Why does the MC care about random kids to an extent that does not make sense? All characters died, why exactly? To save two kids that we should care about? God this was infuriating. 4/10. Would have dropped it, if it gotten any worse ngl. |
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| the plot is interesting but all the characters are too blank, I can't give a shit for any one of them. I can't believe you can love all those classic movies but make characters that blank. |
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| God, damn! Who were the true Akudama? Should've been 13 eps instead of 12. |
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| The ending was a bit disappointing not gonna lie but it wasn’t bad. I’m still kinda disappointed the way the show turned out. It could’ve been better it had a chance to actually be good. But 6/10 the animation was good. And I loved the characters I just personally didn’t like the storyline a lot. |
| A mix of Juuni Taisen and Kekkai Sensen. An extended heist movie that manages to keep things briskly moving forward throughout its entire runtime. |
| Really? So they all died, and hanga left two loli? |
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