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Aug 13, 2020 5:53 AM

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TeamDalaiLana said:
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There's a serial killer in the fucking mansion, but let's just waste our time deciding what to do and to talk a loli into your god damn harem.

Why did no one take out that thing out of Subaru's shoulder the moment they escaped? Talk about conveniently wasting time xD.

It was explained in great details in the novels. They were afraid of removing the spikes due to blood loss. Subaru lamented that there were no healers present (Rem/Betty used to heal their wounds both still in the mansion).


Another oof for the anime adaptation then.
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes."
~Blackwall
Aug 13, 2020 5:57 AM
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So subaru fucked up again, he think he can help Emilia by replace her in the trial, it shows us how sometimes your good intention aren't always be good in others people perspective...

I'm really curious about Beatrice decision to help only Subaru 🤔
Aug 13, 2020 6:23 AM

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There's a serial killer in the fucking mansion, but let's just waste our time deciding what to do and to talk a loli into your god damn harem.

Why did no one take out that thing out of Subaru's shoulder the moment they escaped? Talk about conveniently wasting time xD.


Of course, if you haven’t noticed Subaru always TRIES to seem calm. It’s a way to try to calm down and calm down others, even if it’s a lie.
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In another topic i am listing some interesting passages that was skipped from the Light Novel (anime's source) in this season.


*This is not Spoiler, just parts of the story already covered by this episode.



Episode 6 (LN vol. 11)



# Very little, very little point: Actually the anime adaptation fixed the Light Novel continuation by moving the introduction of Ryuzu.


- Actually this conversation was not "aired" to us, the audience, in the previous timeline. Just after Emilia's fail, the next scene was Subaru straightly going to talk with Trollswaal:



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# For Frederica, a vow is a VOW. (confirming that Furry-san came from the Sactuary)




# Ram actually acknowledged Rem more than it seems in the Anime.




# In the Light Novel it is made clear that Frederica was not related with the teleport incident itself.




# Why Subaru didn't remove that spike from his back immediately



# Patrasche's fight and sacrifice.




# The final conversation of Subaru and Elsa was slightly different.





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Nice to see them out of Sanctuary, which is a boring and dreary place. I hope they find the solution to the Sanctuary walls outside the place.

Ram seeing Rem. How odd it must feel. What a nice technique, that they don't show Subaru telling Ram about it. We can just imagine.

He really uses his resets to full effect. Ask the assassin about information right before you die. She won't mind telling you since you're going to die anyway. Awesome. Looks like the info he got, while sparse, will be important. She knew he would come back and when.

I forget why Ram calls him Barusu. Anyone know?
Aug 13, 2020 7:02 AM

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The suffering is back into full swing for poor Subaru. =(

It was a good that he was able to have Ram go with him back to the mansion, where the adorable Petra would meet them and, later on, Frederica would also return.

Ram always amuses me with her blunt insults and put-downs and her chemistry with Frederica was really good. However, their time was interrupted when big tits Elsa came along, holding Petra hostage.

Thus, chaos ensued, which had our main party regroup so that Frederica could tramsform into a beast herself, which looked really cool.

However, both Frederica and Ram's efforts were futile as Subaru had to go through a brutal moment where he and Petra got caught in the blast of the battle from the others, which not only led to him being battered and bloodied from the injuries, but when they showed he was holding Petra's arm and ONLY her arm was present, it made my heart drop. Poor Petra. ='(

As Subaru was about to meet his destiny with Elsa's sword yet again, Beatrice finally decided to do something and saved Subaru at the last second. Their conversation is going to be hugely interesting next time, where I hope Beatrice will tell her reasons for saving Subaru from certain death.
Aug 13, 2020 7:35 AM
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Natsude_tanaka said:
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Note: Please don't confirm or deny any of my theories. I only want to get my thoughts out by asking these rhetorical questions that I don't want answers to. It takes away from the hype. I've waited patiently years for this whilst managing to dodge spoilers left and right. Don't fail me now y'all.

Wow, people are really handling things differently now. I'm guessing Garfiel only wanted him to do the trials when he was the only one who knew that Subaru could do it, but since he blurted it out to everyone, including Ryuzu and Ram, Roswall's confidante, he couldn't do that anymore without consequence. He could've made it so that everyone thought Emilia was doing them instead of Subaru. And then there's Emilia, who doesn't want to turn tail and run. Props to her.

Even Roswall was acting different, he didn't sound like he trusted or had faith in Subaru anymore. Glad to see someone finally pick up on Subaru's ramblings that could clue them in on RBD. More so than ever, I think (theory)


That pause that Ram had when Subaru was joking about throwing her off into the distance, Subaru actually did that when he was trying to get Rem back into her senses, but since Rem no longer is remembered, she got confused for a bit, I wonder if their twin psychic link is more powerful than we think, and that she will end up remembering Rem.

Wrote the above while watching, and then it was addressed a moment later lol.

Hmm, so I'm now realizing that the reason why she's more loyal to Roswall than ever is because she has nobody else, she used to have Rem, but now she doesn't, and that's why she was ok with being a sacrificial pawn, because she had nobody else to live and come back for.

Wow, I did not expect Frederica to be so cooperative after suspecting her for so long. My theory was that


Wait, is Ram using a wand? Probably one that Roswall gave her to channel her mana better, like a portable horn. Maybe because Rem is not around to do the fighting.

Return of the Shamac! Why did he grasp his chest? That didn't happen before...is it because his gate still isn't healed? Or is it because he's using the Witch's miasma for Shamac?

Ram just casually throws Subaru out of the cloud. She's stronger than before.

Wait, so Elsa was roaming around the mansion for two days straight? What for? Looking for someone, like Beatrice? I guess Frederica isn't in cahoots with Elsa after all, unless it's an elaborate act, since we never see her again after she goes off to fight her.

Woah, did not expect Frederica to just rip off her clothes, if she was going to transform, then they would've ripped in the transformation anyways lol

Did not expect her to go full beast. I guess Garf gave the stone knowing that she needed it to fully transform. My theory is that


That's no normal mabeast, it got bats floating around and everything! That's definitely (theory)


I'm going to have to go back and watch what happened when Subaru was floating in and out of consciousness. It sounded like Emilia, but that can't be! Edit: Never mind, that was totally Ram, I guess she tried to save Subaru by getting him onto Patrasche, but looks like they got knocked back by that mabeast. Excellent animation.

I have to admit, I started crying when I realized that it was only going to be Petra's arm. I almost threw up from gagging (happens when I get incredibly disturbed). It's been so long since I cried in a Re:Zero episode, I think I might just cry again thinking that, out of joy. I was thinking this would just be another exposition episode. I should've known they were going to do that to Petra when she was acting all cute for too long. That cry of Subaru's got me. Best anguished scream he's ever given in the whole series. Looks like Ram's hair tie and Patrasche's body means they all died. I think Ram had to cut off Petra's arm because she was trapped under the rubble and Subaru wouldn't let go. Lots of jump cuts this episode. I wonder if those were in the LN too. (This you can tell me about, whether or not those random cuts were LN material or not, which would explain a lot).

Brings back memories of when I watched Corpse Party, when someone was left holding just the arm of the person. That was traumatizing then and even more so now.

Maylie, a new name, very interesting. My theory is that


Hmm...Elsa's client knows that Subaru is a shut-in. Echidona and Satella know about his past. But they couldn't employ Elsa, so who else? (Theory)


What were those spikes that Elsa threw at them? Was it Elsa? That's a new one. Is she half-porcupine? It looked like Ram fully expected her arm to be shredded, but her arm is stronger than the average human's. Plus, she moved around like an animal when fighting Reinhard.

Beatrice saved Subaru. Is it because she doesn't want to see people die, or does she know that she is being targeted and wants Subaru's help?

We all expected Subaru to die and reset, but I'm glad he didn't. Now it's getting interesting.

Tea was next to Beatrice. It probably was always there, but now tea has a new meaning.


Episode was called the Maiden's Gospel. There were three maids, and no Gospel in sight. Very interesting choice for a title.



ok now its confusing hahaha so wait the beast that we saw in Hyouketsu no Kizuna is diff to the beast in this ep? and also did meili make an appearance in s1 if so what ep? subaru is not the shut in its beatrice of course and also satella is just another nickname for echidna right?


The beast in Frozen Bonds is different from this one, they have completely different character designs, if you want to check back and see. The one in Frozen Bonds is named Melaquera or something, this one we don’t know. They look similar in that they both are quadrupeds that look like animals and are strong and dope-looking, but that’s pretty much it. Melaquera could talk, and it seemed more like a spirit than a mabeast, so now that I think about it, they aren’t similar at all, I don’t know why I said that in my post.
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fullofregrets09 said:
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ok now its confusing hahaha so wait the beast that we saw in Hyouketsu no Kizuna is diff to the beast in this ep? and also did meili make an appearance in s1 if so what ep? subaru is not the shut in its beatrice of course and also satella is just another nickname for echidna right?


The beast in Frozen Bonds is different from this one, they have completely different character designs, if you want to check back and see. The one in Frozen Bonds is named Melaquera or something, this one we don’t know. They look similar in that they both are quadrupeds that look like animals and are strong and dope-looking, but that’s pretty much it. Melaquera could talk, and it seemed more like a spirit than a mabeast, so now that I think about it, they aren’t similar at all, I don’t know why I said that in my post.



? The demon beast from this episode is the same kind of the beast that was eaten by the black lethal slime in Frozen Bonds movie.

Not Melankuera.

There is a screenshot of it in the begining of previous page.
Aug 13, 2020 7:54 AM
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I recently watched Frozen Bond, and I still didn’t remember seeing that beast before. Maybe I need to go in for a rewatch after the 1st cours! Wow! So I guess there’s more than one of them, which means that my theory about
Aug 13, 2020 8:11 AM

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Subaru is definitely getting better if you look at the events from a gamer's perspective and he's the MC. not the best but the improvement is still there. just remember that at the end of the day he's playing a kaizo level pretty much. I've seen kaizo players play kaizo levels and you DEFINITELY need the lives. you just can't first try this level.

inb4 speedrunning
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
Aug 13, 2020 8:14 AM

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The moment the mansion collapsed while Subaru was holding petra's arms i was hoping they won't do a thing where the hands is separated from the body and fuck they did my heart. Petra no, they're all fucking dead. And Maylie! What?!

Really great episode, this season has been really great so far and I assume it's going to get even better.
Aug 13, 2020 8:48 AM

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why is it that Subaru forgets the advice when he resets?
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because.

Aug 13, 2020 8:49 AM

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I hope this encounter with Beako to be the most mature by Subaru so far.

In all the others, mostly he was being a joker, or he was in full shock or PTSD (second arc after second death, Emilia's death), and in every, impatient like a child.

The set up now is the worst, but also nothing that he was not used before. He surely will gain a big information this time by using the "code" received from Trollswaal. But i hope for the conversation to be something different from usual, kashira.
Aug 13, 2020 8:50 AM
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dasprn said:
why is it that Subaru forgets the advice when he resets?

That we don't know
Aug 13, 2020 9:12 AM
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nah, it was the right post, just use your english skills. It's meant to go with "I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. "


Ah. I see now. I spent longer than I would like to admit trying to connect the two, so I had to ask. So I guess that was the significance behind the white handkerchief that was around his hand getting sliced in half, I think you’re right about his hand being cut off too.


well the handkerchief was the one on petras hand that he was still holding on to but his left hand isn't visible in the last scene with beako
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Back in s1 it was found out that Subaru can remember people the White Whale ate. This is old news.

Oh yes I remember. How Subaru still remember Rem????


probably because return by death lets him remember stuff from outside the current timeline
Aug 13, 2020 9:25 AM

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Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season


Hmm, highly doubtful. Considering that there's far more artwork of Rem, she remained popular even with the native artists, who would've known who got more prominence in the plot. So regardless of what happens, Rem would still be more popular, being in a constant coma or not.


Rem is still my favorite character too. But this is her season to shine in my opinion
Aug 13, 2020 9:31 AM
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Ok so I think it's kind of good that beatrice saved subaru before he died. She obviously knows a lot more about what's going on than subaru does, so this is the perfect time for him to gain some knowledge. Didn't Roswaal tell him something to tell beatrice if something bad happened? (I can't hardly remember) but if worst comes to worst subaru can just off himself and reset.
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swordmaster2551 said:
fullofregrets09 said:


Ah. I see now. I spent longer than I would like to admit trying to connect the two, so I had to ask. So I guess that was the significance behind the white handkerchief that was around his hand getting sliced in half, I think you’re right about his hand being cut off too.


well the handkerchief was the one on petras hand that he was still holding on to but his left hand isn't visible in the last scene with beako


I see it now. I thought it was an animation error, but now it looks deliberate. Well, good thing Beatrice can heal fatal wounds! Or bad thing, depending on how you look at it
Aug 13, 2020 11:14 AM
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So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed?
Aug 13, 2020 12:08 PM

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Honestly this might have been the best episode of the entire series so far!
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TS4U said:
ChainxBastard said:


Back in s1 it was found out that Subaru can remember people the White Whale ate. This is old news.

Oh yes I remember. How Subaru still remember Rem????


Literally just told you because he can remember people the White Whale ate, meaning that authorities and magical curses of the like don't affect him, since the White Whale was Gluttony. Most likely because of Satella
Aug 13, 2020 12:35 PM

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I have a horrible suspicion that he just hit a "save point" by going into the library...if he did then that leaves so many dead D;
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I have a horrible suspicion that he just hit a "save point" by going into the library...if he did then that leaves so many dead D;
Aug 13, 2020 12:39 PM

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swordmaster2551 said:
So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed?
The next episode will answer these questions.
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mozgow said:
swordmaster2551 said:
So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed?
The next episode will answer these questions.


Good it's been bugging me almost this ENTIRE season
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Holy fuck this episode was crazy.

There's something I didn't understand: why can't Subaru just do the trial and help everyone in Emilia's stead?

Wait, so that time when Subaru threw Ram into the air...is it in the same timeline as this episode? Or did that happen in a different timeline?

When Elsa showed up and shit hit the fan, I was wondering when Subaru would kill himself to retry with better results. Well...he's gonna have to kill himself or die now if he wants to save everyone.

I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix.
I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances.

Honestly, I think I'm going to love this season; the plot's more focused, and very intriguing. The dialogue in this episode was fine.
Aug 13, 2020 1:09 PM
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there was a part where where said she had instructions that perfectly describe what happened in the first loop.
so maybe a sin archbishop with a future telling gospel is the client.
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there was a part where where said she had instructions that perfectly describe what happened in the first loop.
so maybe a sin archbishop with a future telling gospel is the client.

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Hmmmm anyone else think Roswaal is up to something? He seems to do a lot behind the scenes, and it is kind of concerning with Elsa showing up to the mansion to kill everyone now. Not saying the two are related, just wondering what he could be up to throughout all this.
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Holy fuck this episode was crazy.

There's something I didn't understand: why can't Subaru just do the trial and help everyone in Emilia's stead?

Wait, so that time when Subaru threw Ram into the air...is it in the same timeline as this episode? Or did that happen in a different timeline?

When Elsa showed up and shit hit the fan, I was wondering when Subaru would kill himself to retry with better results. Well...he's gonna have to kill himself or die now if he wants to save everyone.

I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix.
I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances.

Honestly, I think I'm going to love this season; the plot's more focused, and very intriguing. The dialogue in this episode was fine.

they explained it in the episode, Roswaal wants to sell the Emilia hype drink by having her clear it while Garfiel and Ryuzu are forced to accept that to keep a good relationship, a good thing to point out is that Garfiel told Subaru to do it last episode while mentioning he couldnt handle seeing her suffer anymore.
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Literally_Pride said:
there was a part where where said she had instructions that perfectly describe what happened in the first loop.
so maybe a sin archbishop with a future telling gospel is the client.


I was thinking some sort of clairvoyance like being able to see over a great distance type thing. I'd need one more loop to see if Elsa's dialogue changes again.
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So subaru fucked up again, he think he can help Emilia by replace her in the trial, it shows us how sometimes your good intention aren't always be good in others people perspective...

The wording is the key here.
I think he can convince her about it, but that was not the right way to phrase it.
And Subaru's way of explaining things of course is always horrible.
He gets it right eventually by trial and error after dying over and over >.<"

He could take the three trials to spoil them to Emilia without fully completing the last one.
As well as trying to get her to trust him more, open up more to him, and be able to give her hints about how to face her own past for the first trial.
He could even do it in a previous loop to not be suspicious about the leaks he makes and then drop some wisdom pill for Emilia-tan!

My 2 cents.
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So... i have few comments and few... speculations about what will happen next. In this case i watched only anime so you are free from any spoilers :)
Opinion
Second (third if we would count Subaru's "past" episode) episode in the row that made my emotions skyrocket

i was screaming half of the episode go frckn visit beatrice and ask about what Ram told him last time, i truly love this anime but sometimes i'm annoyed by subaru's lack of true human's logic. If he knows he can return by death, informations about what's going on should be the most important, and after a talk with Beatrice before leaving, we and he too, can assume she knows way more we know and asking her should be priority to understand more.. i think (instead of having tea, but truth is he didnt expect Elsa to come so fast so yea...)

Loved scene with Petra when he was greeting them outside. It was just sooo adorable. Just wish if they showed some more emotions on her face, but it was 10/10 for me anyway.
Really enjoyed the 'world war' camera (as someone called it) when we saw how subaru was flying high

overall it was once more amazing episode but i felt like animations were a little downgraded but i read some rumors this episode was made in 'home office'. Don't know if it's true though.

PS. i actually had to read comments to understand (i kinda would rather not to know...) that Petra died when roof collapsed and later Ram has cutted her hand off to free and take subaru.... damn it broke me



So... my thoughts about what's going on (feel free to hop in):

Frederica might be good after all (voting for her as next waifu and stuff), but i'm not giving this statement 100%. The pact she has and makes her not talk might be something by what she is doing stuff, we dont even see her dying or anything, she might as well work with Elsa. She even went to forrest to "check the barrier' but wouldn't that mean she had to let the mosnter in? if she really went to check the actual barrier, she would realize something was wrong as there was nearly no time between that and Elsa showing up.

(not watching with english subs and focusing mostly on japanese so i could catch it different than people with translated subs)
Also she being suprised by teleportation could be:
1.someone did something with the amulet she didn't know about
2.This can be just semantics but Subaru mentioned only "teleportation" and she was suprised by that and that could be done by something/someone else. As i recall inside barrier they were talking about explosion which happend because of the amulet, not teleportation. But again, these might be just semantics. I will have to watch slowly all episodes later again anyway :P (I might wait until next week's episode)


Don't know if its only me, but i'm not sure about last scene but Ram escaped? i didn't see her body there, and at first, before knowing about her... slash... seing Patrasche made me think she analized her "priorities" again and escaped or listened to some order we don't know yet... again


Above Subaru's order of doing things, I was glad at least he asked Elsa for her master. No idea from which group she is from. I'm sure someone connected to elections as she reffered to subaru when they met for first time as "kankeisha" so that would mean he is one of connected to the case (but again as japanese beautiful is, we could always understand it as he reffered about him as "kankeisha" as he is "one of them, connected to that" and she is from background group


aand of course finally Beatrice appeared and we will probably know some even bigger reason to hate Roswaal (after the last episode? damn, it was years since i was so angry i wanted to punch character, not caring it's anime (i belive last time was School Days :P )).
Until this point we know his family, he is, serving Witch of Knowledge, sorry, Echidna, he is known for having biggest library with a lot of forbidden knowledge so i bet the "truth" will be connected to it.
Subaru might hear also about his plans to kill dragon or smth, dont know. I don't really understand the rules of the world and what's between all of the sins and witches etc., but i would speculate Roswaal and Beatrice (seems like her being spirit might be a big thing) might be somehow connected to the sins as they have connections to witch.


We didn't see Frederica's body, nor Rem's body so i'm really scared Subaru could actually have a checkpoint with (I'm going to literally pray for that not to happen) only dead Petra... please not please not please not please not......


Else and her friend... Mild? was that? could it be the same guy from the cult who was controlling the beasts last time when they attacked (dog like monsters)??
Above that i'm wondering why the heck Elsa not only knew who is in the mansion, but also how she knew when Subaru was suppoused to show up?! First could be explained by just spy, but second? That would actually confirm she is working with cult as so far (witch afterall..) only they could "predict" future with their bibles


Last, for now, thought would be that after we will know what beatrice will have to tell us, we might know something dark about the barrier/those lands itself. We (i mean Subaru) have no clue about those lands and what Roswaal is still not telling us about. We know litterally nothing. That people live there and we need to take down the barrier. Like after the barrier will be taken down, witch will be free or something else. I can not belive Roswaal got so hurt just to save them. Something is behind it. And Subaru is going to learn it after the fact.

I'm going way ahead with thoughts but i'm scared everything will go badly, Emila will learn that IT was released thanks/because of her, she will also learn about Subaru not telling her stuff before and will have even worse contact with him, being angry at him... again (because as we know, if Subaru would get checkpoint right now, he... left with not that 'good' relations with Emilia after she thought he think she can't do this....


Damn next episode might be even bigger than this and/or previous one with punchable Roswaal explaining why he was (or actually wasn't) doing all of that

hmm.... what do you think?


PS. Hope my english wasn't that hard to read :P
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StarAlone said:
Above Subaru's order of doing things, I was glad at least he asked Elsa for her master. No idea from which group she is from. I'm sure someone connected to elections as she referred to Subaru when they met for first time as "kankeisha" so that would mean he is one of connected to the case (but again as Japanese beautiful is, we could always understand it as he referred about him as "kankeisha" as he is "one of them, connected to that" and she is from background group
I did not expect anyone will mention arc 1 here. Nice job recalling that (or did you re-watch arc 1 ?)
What Elsa said back then (it was translated as "So you're one of them") will make sense once you learn who hired her.

StarAlone said:
Above that i'm wondering why the heck Elsa not only knew who is in the mansion, but also how she knew when Subaru was supposed to show up?! First could be explained by just spy, but second? That would actually confirm she is working with cult as so far (witch afterall..) only they could "predict" future with their bibles
This one will also make sense once it is revealed who hired her.
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I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix.


Exactly, don't know if you or anyone else watched it so i wont go into details but that's the reason i loved so much Steins;Gate



AbsurdTurk said:

I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances.


I was actually talking about it with people after 2 episode.

After we saw amzing new opening (song wise i like previous ones more though :P) on the end.
But this one shows exactly what he went trough, his... experiences

Not sure if you do realize or not, that the amazing scene with text being written in he background, is modified version of what subaru was saying in the first season
in new opening he said キミを すくうためなら オレは なんどでも 死ぬ (to save you, ill die any number of times~)
when until now he used to say like おれが かならず すくってみせる (ill prove to you im going to save you~) (both are not my main languages and to be honest english is quite too simple to translate it perfectly to keep the whole meaning, but you should get a point)
The point is they are built kinda on the same sentence? words? well... meaning, but they really show us the change of how subaru thinks now, especially in new opening last that has been changed/added (one that really shows us the impact of his words) "死ぬ" (to die) being written with blood.
The biggest difference is that he used to yell it without thinking, without giving any thought about consequences and mainly his actions. He was just screaming 'im going to save you' like a random hero, but it changed hugly in new opening.
It all might be just my analyzing too much though...
It might be only me and only because 死ぬ is popular kanji and looks really cool especially for forgein audience BUT! the author do like to play with words and everything else but 死ぬ was written using only alphabet, and キミ (you) and オレ (I (me)) are even written using second alphaphet, katakana, which is often used like that by young people because its simpler/faster/cooler/saucy(?). While 死ぬ by writing it in kanji might be showing us how serious, mature he is right now about it, when giving so serious promises

But maybe it is just me ;P
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Above Subaru's order of doing things, I was glad at least he asked Elsa for her master. No idea from which group she is from. I'm sure someone connected to elections as she referred to Subaru when they met for first time as "kankeisha" so that would mean he is one of connected to the case (but again as Japanese beautiful is, we could always understand it as he referred about him as "kankeisha" as he is "one of them, connected to that" and she is from background group
I did not expect anyone will mention arc 1 here. Nice job recalling that (or did you re-watch arc 1 ?)
What Elsa said back then (it was translated as "So you're one of them") will make sense once you learn who hired her.

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Above that i'm wondering why the heck Elsa not only knew who is in the mansion, but also how she knew when Subaru was supposed to show up?! First could be explained by just spy, but second? That would actually confirm she is working with cult as so far (witch afterall..) only they could "predict" future with their bibles
This one will also make sense once it is revealed who hired her.


Thanks!
I watched first season few times but i just remember these stuff...
Usually you just remember key fragments but this one especially? Because of the phrazing? I don't know :P
Still hear in my head music getting darker and her 関係者なのね (Kankeisha na no ne) haha
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What I don't understand is how Subaru can't connect the dots even when Roswal told him he is doing it intentionally for Emilia to gain the favor of people in the previous episode. It's obvious that Frederica is doing it for Roswal (and Elsa possibly too) yet she doesn't even suspects him when facing the Frederica in the mansion and was confronting her so painfully about it. I really hope he at least thinks about why Roswal wants the barrier removed.

I mean, everything is there just to make Emilia position stronger and to make Natsuki x Emilia bond so that he would do anything to save her (the funny part would be if we learn in the end when coronation happens that she really has Satella locked up inside since very beginning and this was all her plan to get to the throne, Roswal and his schemes to shape Subaru included - actually I kinda expected they disregard this twist early on only to confirm it later but well, it's obvious anyway).

Another interesting take is the fact that IF Satella was able to give Subaru his Return by Death ability, a) there was a reason and benefit for her, b) she can most likely see the future and determine which Subaru's action would be the most beneficial for her. The question what actually triggers those convenient save points also never crosses his mind.
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It might be only me and only because 死ぬ is popular kanji and looks really cool especially for forgein audience BUT! the author do like to play with words and everything else but 死ぬ was written using only alphabet, and キミ (you) and オレ (I (me)) are even written using second alphaphet, katakana, which is often used like that by young people because its simpler/faster/cooler/saucy(?). While 死ぬ by writing it in kanji might be showing us how serious, mature he is right now about it, when giving so serious promises

Nice catch, haven't realized they actually used both in the OP. Although it's actually more simple, katakana is used for emphasis, like italics in the text and they made it so that the word YOU and I intentionally stands out.

It probably means he'll is willing to save her by any means necessary and it's to show his determination.
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Oh Petra.... :(

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Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season


Agreed, she is already a strong contender for the MVP. :3
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Seems to me Roswaal is being controlled by some higher order - based on the shine in his eyes? the auspicious King we've never met?.
:? I dunno what to think.

Interesting that Ram acknowledges Gaarf's crush on her; is it because she got that Oneesama energy? Is that his kink? LOL
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I think Beako didn't save him. It's just his "RPG-Luck" again - that would fit the running - gag.

I do think he's gonna learn something by talking to her tho, before he dies. (Prettys sure Elsa cut him somewhere and he's gonna collapse shortly after talking)


As for Elsa. I love this character. She never feels TOO Op, or has some kind of crazy magic that makes her untouchable. Just agility and malice . Loving it
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So the weekly dose of suffering for Subaru starts...

The beginning of the episode gave me S1 vibes when he used knowledge from a past life to try to do things different but he failed and they thought bad of him.

I really like that we are getting more of Ram, more of her personality and shit.

Action scenes were really good, I like the tension and you can still feel the desperation and fear of Subaru like in S1.

Also, we are 6 episodes in for this season and people still thinking that Beatrice give a shit about the mansion... really?
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I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix.


Exactly, don't know if you or anyone else watched it so i wont go into details but that's the reason i loved so much Steins;Gate



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I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances.


I was actually talking about it with people after 2 episode.

After we saw amzing new opening (song wise i like previous ones more though :P) on the end.
But this one shows exactly what he went trough, his... experiences

Not sure if you do realize or not, that the amazing scene with text being written in he background, is modified version of what subaru was saying in the first season
in new opening he said キミを すくうためなら オレは なんどでも 死ぬ (to save you, ill die any number of times~)
when until now he used to say like おれが かならず すくってみせる (ill prove to you im going to save you~) (both are not my main languages and to be honest english is quite too simple to translate it perfectly to keep the whole meaning, but you should get a point)

The point is they are built kinda on the same sentence? words? well... meaning, but they really show us the change of how subaru thinks now, especially in new opening last that has been changed/added (one that really shows us the impact of his words) "死ぬ" (to die) being written with blood.
The biggest difference is that he used to yell it without thinking, without giving any thought about consequences and mainly his actions. He was just screaming 'im going to save you' like a random hero, but it changed hugly in new opening.
It all might be just my analyzing too much though...
It might be only me and only because 死ぬ is popular kanji and looks really cool especially for forgein audience BUT! the author do like to play with words and everything else but 死ぬ was written using only alphabet, and キミ (you) and オレ (I (me)) are even written using second alphaphet, katakana, which is often used like that by young people because its simpler/faster/cooler/saucy(?). While 死ぬ by writing it in kanji might be showing us how serious, mature he is right now about it, when giving so serious promises

But maybe it is just me ;P


Hey thanks for these rich curiosities there.


About the point in bold, it become clear in this 6th episode.

I myself never avoided to criticize Subaru lack of focus and foolish personality.

But now he is practically the Cautious Hero. lol




Now he is legitimately doing the best he can.

If we call him "useless", it is just the honest and objective conclusion due to his lack of "superpowers", since he is just a weakling. The only special power of Subaru is gather information and restart after dying. Until there, until the information be enough to deal with the pwerful menace, he always will be weak and "useless".
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Better than all the previous episodes combine. This is the rezero I was missing.
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I mean, he's making the call to go back and fight to save Rem yet he did nothing at all lol

He expected to arrive much earlier than Elsa and see if Frederica was the culprit, but Elsa was told to kill the people in the mansion right before Subaru arrived himself. You can see that Subaru arriving earlier messed up Elsa's plan so she had to get the help of Meili and the mabeasts to be able to kill everyone efficiently.


I'm talking about later on, when Ram, Frederica, Petra and himself manage to get out of the mansion. He makes the call to go back and save Rem placing Petra in danger, I know at this point that he has been like that since S1 but still, I can barely bear with him lol
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So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed?


It is a huge "Plot Hole Flag" that i hope Tappei to be able to avoid.


A Plot Hole Flag happens when even with the Suspention of Disbelief, the story made a certain rule or logic scenario to be so clear, so right, that it restrains the author from came with too convenient artifices to solve or change the situation. So many authors just ignore all what was previously taken seriously in the plot and force a solution up from the sleeve, with convincent EXCEPTIONS, or Deus Ex Machina, or new elements that could be introduced earlier (for example "what? Now the beast-races can teleport?)


The rules of the Sanctuary are clear:
- Half-blood cant leave with their souls.
- It is like this since hundreds of years.

But now we know that Furry-rica came from the Sanctuary and is Garfield older sister.

My GUESS:

- A simple explanation could be "Fred and Garf was not born inside the barrier". But it also was eliminated since we know that Garf can't do the trials for being born there, and Fred came from there.

- So, with a little plot hole, Fred is just an empty body occupied with another soul, since she died after leave the barrier, maybe for accident. And her "misterious master" (could be Roswaal? It would be another plot hole, since contradicts some of his actions) is the one who granted her actual life.


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Btw, another huge Plot Hole Flag is what Roswaal knows about Return by Death.

Come on, since the last episode we can just assume that he knows all the shit about it, and is openly conducting his acts to force Subaru to use it.

Come with another explanation fatefully would let plot holes all over the way.
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Damn, Perta and everyone else probably died there, and now Subaru was saved...
I feel like Subaru will die soon though, there is no way he'll accept this kind of result.
Can't wait for what Beato has to say to Subaru at this point though

And damn that 3rd person view from Subaru's eyes when the ceiling collapsed and all was crazy...


Indeed, i got Jojo and Demon slayer vibes. It was so clean too, love the detail they put into splitting his vision being clean with the blood.
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Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season


Ive heard Echidnas the top contender tho, idk abt that lol
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bluffinie said:
Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season


Ive heard Echidnas the top contender tho, idk abt that lol

Lots of top contenders this season.
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