Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Aug 13, 2020 5:53 AM
#201
TeamDalaiLana said: AdolZeppeli said: There's a serial killer in the fucking mansion, but let's just waste our time deciding what to do and to talk a loli into your god damn harem. Why did no one take out that thing out of Subaru's shoulder the moment they escaped? Talk about conveniently wasting time xD. It was explained in great details in the novels. They were afraid of removing the spikes due to blood loss. Subaru lamented that there were no healers present (Rem/Betty used to heal their wounds both still in the mansion). Another oof for the anime adaptation then. |
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Aug 13, 2020 5:57 AM
#202
Aug 13, 2020 6:23 AM
#203
There's a serial killer in the fucking mansion, but let's just waste our time deciding what to do and to talk a loli into your god damn harem. Why did no one take out that thing out of Subaru's shoulder the moment they escaped? Talk about conveniently wasting time xD. Of course, if you haven’t noticed Subaru always TRIES to seem calm. It’s a way to try to calm down and calm down others, even if it’s a lie. |
Aug 13, 2020 6:26 AM
#204
In another topic i am listing some interesting passages that was skipped from the Light Novel (anime's source) in this season. *This is not Spoiler, just parts of the story already covered by this episode. Episode 6 (LN vol. 11) # Very little, very little point: Actually the anime adaptation fixed the Light Novel continuation by moving the introduction of Ryuzu. Surrounding Emilia was everyone who had gathered at the tomb for the Trial—in addition to Subaru and Ram, there was Garfiel and Ryuzu, and, for some reason, Otto, who made five. With everyone’s eyes upon her, Emilia held her emotions in check to properly convey the details of the Trial and to announce that it had ended in failure. Most of the conversation was identical to the previous time around. The only difference was— “Then why is Mr. Natsuki safe and sound after having gone inside?” (...) - Actually this conversation was not "aired" to us, the audience, in the previous timeline. Just after Emilia's fail, the next scene was Subaru straightly going to talk with Trollswaal: (...) During that time, Emilia continued to sob, seemingly unable to hear Subaru’s voice. “…ve me, Dad. Save me… Puck, Puck…Pucckkk…” It was not the man at her side consoling her, but the absent spirit whose name she continued to call. 3 “She finally calmed down a short while ago and is now sound asleep.” Ram whispered the news when she came out of the room after Subaru had questioned her with a glance. Given her considerate demeanor, what had happened inside the room behind her must have been something else. While relieved at her reply, he wasn’t relieved enough not to turn his worried eyes toward the closed door. “That expression isn’t like you, Barusu. Normally you have such a sloppy face. Now that I have seen that somber grimace of yours, I truly have no wish to see it ever again.” “Nobody asked you… Sorry, making you worry about me like that.” Ram reacted to those words with a “Ha!” and walked away. Before following in her footsteps, Subaru bit his lip as he turned his eyes toward the door one last time. Perhaps repeated regrets over his insufficient strength, his weakness causing failure to pile upon failure, had steeled his heart. “Ohh? I wonder, is Lady Emilia already weeeell?” ----------- # For Frederica, a vow is a VOW. (confirming that Furry-san came from the Sactuary) “—When we were setting off for the Sanctuary, you deliberately withheld a fair bit of information, but…that was the vow at work, right? And that’s still in effect even now?” Frederica had told Subaru and Emilia about the Sanctuary, but she had hidden a number of facts from them, saying “I cannot speak of it.” Frederica had strenuously insisted that this vow of hers was the reason why. When Subaru questioned whether that yoke was still on her neck, Frederica shook her head side to side. “Unfortunately, I cannot respond as you wish me to. The vow is still in effect…in the first place, unlike a pact or a covenant, a vow has no compulsory power by itself. This is simply what my heart has settled upon.” “If there’s no compulsion, then can’t you bend it just a little? Even if it’s against your beliefs, you understand the situation we’re in here, right?” “—Ten years, seven months, thirteen days.” As Subaru pleaded his case, Frederica suddenly rattled off those words. The span of time didn’t mean anything to Subaru. While he was thoroughly perplexed by this tidbit of information, Frederica gently brought her cup of black tea to her lips and explained. “That is how long it’s been since I left the Sanctuary and began serving Master Roswaal. That is also when the vow went into effect… Master Subaru, are you asking me to throw all that time aside?” “…Ram was just talking to me about time, actually.” Scratching his head over the quiet statement, Subaru took a single, deep breath before pressing on # Ram actually acknowledged Rem more than it seems in the Anime. “—Sorry.” “…Barusu, why are you apologizing?” “I didn’t…want to make you meet Rem like this. But…” (...) “Stop making such a suspicious face. It degrades an already almost worthless man, though I suppose I am too late to do anything about that.” Mid-apology, Ram’s hand stretched forth and mercilessly pinched Subaru’s cheek. When Subaru let out a lament at the amazing pain, Ram snorted “Hah!” and let a laugh slip out. “Do not go making that face. It is as if you decided you were something important to Ram and Rem, lowly Barusu.” “Y-you said it yourself. I really am a lowly…” “Ram has no interest in Barusu’s feelings of guilt. At the very least, she doesn’t blame Barusu in the slightest. Do not insult Ram and her little sister by wallowing in tragedy all by your lonesome.” Thrusting a finger at his forehead, Ram made a truly Ram-like statement as Subaru’s mouth flapped open and closed. “…Y-you don’t even remember her, but you act like Rem’s older sister all of a sudden?” “It is quite mysterious. Though I have no memory of her, I am very firm about holding such a position. It would seem Ram is an elder sister much respected and loved by her younger sister. This is natural, of course.” “That way of thinking is seriously Big Sis of you!” Even though Rem’s existence had fallen away, Ram’s authority remained undaunted. Subaru, conflicted as he was about whether this was a happy or a desolate thing, admired Ram’s nobility of spirit regardless. # In the Light Novel it is made clear that Frederica was not related with the teleport incident itself. “Let me get to details, then. The crystal you gave to Emilia reacted to the barrier, triggering a magic teleport in the dragon carriage…one that rather conveniently launched its victim directly to the tomb.” “Teleport to the tomb…?! A-and was Lady Emilia all right?” “Fortunately, she was, thanks to Subaru’s sacrifice. A noble deed by his standards.” “…In other words, I was teleported in Emilia’s place. I’m all right, though.” Ram accepted more tea as Subaru did a little dance on the spot, demonstrating that he was in good health. The sight made Frederica forget to cover her mouth with her hand, openly displaying the shock on her face. With this, it was finally established that Frederica really hadn’t been involved with the crystal causing the teleport. “But if that’s so, what’d you give her the crystal for? According to Roswaal, what you need to get into the Sanctuary is the correct path. Having an object doesn’t make you qualified.” That’s…” “You can’t speak because of the vow, I figure? If so, that is a poor excuse, Frederica.” (..........after Frederica agreeing in being "taken by force" to Sanctuary............) “Even though you didn’t arrange it in advance, you two sure were on the same page…” “But of course.” “We have known each other for nearly a decade.” Hearing those perfectly matching replies, Subaru completely took his hat off to them. And with that, the situation had well and truly been sorted out. First, barring the possibility of her being an actress of exceptional skill, it seemed that Frederica had absolutely no involvement with the teleportation incident. Her circumstances for remaining silent because of the vow would surely become clear if she went to the Sanctuary. In so doing, they would also be able to expose the mastermind trying to infiltrate through cracks in the camp’s framework. “Hiding the teleportation and then instructing you to keep it secret… When I put it like that, the guy you made a promise to has the worst personality ever.” “I…suppose so… # Why Subaru didn't remove that spike from his back immediately “Miss Frederica!!” Thrown by the landing, Petra raised her voice into a near-shriek as she rolled on the grass. Her gaze was on Frederica, down on one knee in the yard with skewers stuck in her bloody back. “I…underestimated our opponent…!” Frederica was making labored breaths as slender skewers rose from her back like a mountain of swords. The skewers were nearly eight inches in length, and more than a few had doubtless reached her internal organs. Frederica wasn’t the only one who understood their might, for Subaru had gotten a taste as well. “Ow……! Shit! She’s like Julius: an enemy that Shamak doesn’t work on…!” “Surely not. She simply threw them past of the cloud of darkness. She has exceptional intuition.” Subaru wailed at the skewer impaling his right shoulder as Ram stated her thoughts. Examining Subaru and Frederica’s wounds, her refined eyebrows gently formed a scowl. “There is no one here capable of using healing magic. If I remove the skewer, you will die of blood loss.” “I don’t have the courage to touch or even look at it twice, let alone pull it out… Did you get Elsa?” “I blew the entire room away, but I didn’t get the sense that I hit her. We cannot be optimistic.” “Damn it all…! I thought I’d bought us a little time at least…” Gritting his teeth at Ram’s reply, Subaru quietly lamented that no one present was suited to treating their injuries. Previously, Rem had healed his wounds, and Beatrice had healed graver ones still—that was when he belatedly realized it. “Rem and Beatrice are both…!” Both were still in the mansion, and Elsa was right there with them # Patrasche's fight and sacrifice. [after the scene of roof failing down] Cough, cough, cough, cough, cough hard cough hard cough, and finally — “—I’m…” He remembered how to open his eyes. After several blinks, he was freed from the world of darkness. Tears flowed together with the sharp pain of reality jabbing into his eyeballs. He couldn’t determine whether the tear droplets were clear or the color of blood. One thing, however, was clear. —Namely, that the world enveloping Subaru Natsuki was dyed the color of blood. “___” Subaru’s body swayed. Up, down. Left, right. The pitch-black land dragon had Subaru’s hips in its jaws while it raced away from the mansion grounds. “ !!!” Next, when his eardrums came back to life, the sounds of explosions pressing upon them all at once made him want to doubt his ears. There were high-pitched, earsplitting leaden noises, combining to make him feel physically ill. Resounding around him were high-octave voices, roars, neighs—all the cries of the demon beasts hot on their tail. There was a giant mouse with black fly wings spread. There was a ferocious frog that featured black spots. There was a multi-headed serpent with innumerable necks sprouting from its torso. They were surrounded by misshapen creatures beyond all description. —Beast Master was the term that popped up into the back of his mind. “___” With Subaru in her jaws, Patlash was desperately searching for a way out. However, even a land dragon, the fastest of ground creatures, could not overcome such numbers; the roads were blocked, the skies were dangerous, and she was surrounded with no way to break free. Already, there were lacerations beyond counting on her pitch-black scales, from which she was bleeding profusely. Not far in the future, she would reach her limit— No, her limit had already arrived. Patlash was simply exceeding that limit, burning the remaining fire of her life away for Subaru’s sake. “ !!!!” Right after a conspicuously huge roar, the land dragon’s speed was dulled as a creature with over twice her bulk pulled alongside. The black lion had a wound on its face, with blood flowing from the sockets of its smashed eyes—the demon beast from earlier. He’d forgotten its name. But even if he tried, he would never be able to forget the blow from its claw. “ ” Its vision was compromised. It had unleashed a wild strike. And yet, that blow was aimed directly at the land dragon’s right abdomen. This creature was not relying on sight but something else—smell. The demon beast was drawn by scent. Faster than he could register the impact, penetrating with the force of an explosion, the world was dyed red with fresh blood. But it was not Subaru who was affected by that impact. That was because, a moment before the claw strike landed, the land dragon’s neck swung up, hurling Subaru’s body into the air. “Patl—” In her final moment, she did not let out a single cry. Such pride suited the sublime land dragon well. As he spun, a flower of blood bloomed beneath his eyes. Subaru had no time to avert his gaze as his body’s back collided with something, breaking through it with a spectacular sound, before finally smacking the floor, hard. He was racked by a coughing fit; his right eye had closed from the blood coursing from a cut on his forehead, but even so, he immediately realized it. He’d been hurled to the second floor of the mansion—the second floor of the east wing, exactly where he’d been heading. “___” Subaru no longer knew what to think about his beloved land dragon’s final act of devotion. He’d shed too much blood. It was as if his determination and resolve had flowed out of him with it. He couldn’t summon any energy. His head wouldn’t turn, either. His mind was slowly dying, too. Even so, even with Subaru like that, there was one, and only one, place that had not lost its strength. He felt a sensation in the grip of his left hand. Even though his mind was dead, the part telling him not to let go was still alive. He remembered that, right before everything collapsed, he was holding someone’s hand. (...) # The final conversation of Subaru and Elsa was slightly different. “Who hired you to come after us…?” “I shall not speak of my employer. I owe him that much courtesy, at least. Your return was earlier than expected, so things worked out a little differently than in the contract, though…” “Worked out…different…?” “It was supposed to be two maids and one ‘shut-in,’ and everything was supposed to be timed to coincide with your return…” A wry, blood-colored smile came over Elsa as she pointed the tip of her kukri toward Subaru. Her verbal summation of the plan fit with the tragedy that had occurred in the mansion the last time around. At that time, Petra and the others’ corpses were probably waiting for Subaru and the others’ return to the mansion— “I’ve heard enough…” Shaking his head, he rebuffed Elsa, pressing only cruelties upon him. Subaru’s reply made Elsa’s refined eyebrows grimace. “Is that so?” she murmured in visible disappointment as she started to wrap up. “I suppose so. Let us finish this. If this carries on any further, Meiri might be captured, and we cannot have that, so I shall console myself with your hot stuff before that happens.” “___” “All done, are you? Then I shall send you to meet your angels.” This spoken, Elsa’s posture sank. Running with her posture so low she seemed to crawl across the corridor, the black figure charged, making a beeline toward Subaru. She was so fast. One wouldn’t even think counterattack was possible. But— “—Like hell I’m gonna just let you kill me.” Dragging his smashed leg along, Subaru reached the door beside him quicker—the door to Rem’s bedroom. His decision made Elsa knot her brows. Even if he fled into the room, it would only prolong the amount of time until the end. Even so, seeing his reaction made her tone down her gloating smirk just a little. —There was no longer any way to break through the encirclement. It was impossible. Accordingly, he abandoned the thought. His wounds were deep. His life was pouring out. He was on the verge of expiring without having saved any of the people he had to protect. Then, at the very least, he’d get back at Elsa just a little, so that everything would not have gone as she pleased. “___” Neither the Bowel Hunter nor the Beast Master had reached Rem’s bedroom. He absolutely would not allow them to defile the girl who slept within. Even if the world was soon to end, he would not lose Rem a second time, not to anyone— “___” He opened the door wide and leaped into the bedroom. Lifting his head in search of the bed where Rem slept, Subaru was taken aback. —Subaru, resigned to his end, was greeted by the bookshelves of the archive of forbidden books. |
Rob7Aug 13, 2020 6:39 AM
Aug 13, 2020 6:49 AM
#205
Nice to see them out of Sanctuary, which is a boring and dreary place. I hope they find the solution to the Sanctuary walls outside the place. Ram seeing Rem. How odd it must feel. What a nice technique, that they don't show Subaru telling Ram about it. We can just imagine. He really uses his resets to full effect. Ask the assassin about information right before you die. She won't mind telling you since you're going to die anyway. Awesome. Looks like the info he got, while sparse, will be important. She knew he would come back and when. I forget why Ram calls him Barusu. Anyone know? |
Aug 13, 2020 7:02 AM
#206
The suffering is back into full swing for poor Subaru. =( It was a good that he was able to have Ram go with him back to the mansion, where the adorable Petra would meet them and, later on, Frederica would also return. Ram always amuses me with her blunt insults and put-downs and her chemistry with Frederica was really good. However, their time was interrupted when big tits Elsa came along, holding Petra hostage. Thus, chaos ensued, which had our main party regroup so that Frederica could tramsform into a beast herself, which looked really cool. However, both Frederica and Ram's efforts were futile as Subaru had to go through a brutal moment where he and Petra got caught in the blast of the battle from the others, which not only led to him being battered and bloodied from the injuries, but when they showed he was holding Petra's arm and ONLY her arm was present, it made my heart drop. Poor Petra. ='( As Subaru was about to meet his destiny with Elsa's sword yet again, Beatrice finally decided to do something and saved Subaru at the last second. Their conversation is going to be hugely interesting next time, where I hope Beatrice will tell her reasons for saving Subaru from certain death. |
Aug 13, 2020 7:35 AM
#207
Natsude_tanaka said: fullofregrets09 said: Note: Please don't confirm or deny any of my theories. I only want to get my thoughts out by asking these rhetorical questions that I don't want answers to. It takes away from the hype. I've waited patiently years for this whilst managing to dodge spoilers left and right. Don't fail me now y'all. Wow, people are really handling things differently now. I'm guessing Garfiel only wanted him to do the trials when he was the only one who knew that Subaru could do it, but since he blurted it out to everyone, including Ryuzu and Ram, Roswall's confidante, he couldn't do that anymore without consequence. He could've made it so that everyone thought Emilia was doing them instead of Subaru. And then there's Emilia, who doesn't want to turn tail and run. Props to her. Even Roswall was acting different, he didn't sound like he trusted or had faith in Subaru anymore. Glad to see someone finally pick up on Subaru's ramblings that could clue them in on RBD. More so than ever, I think (theory) that Roswall knows something about RBD That pause that Ram had when Subaru was joking about throwing her off into the distance, Subaru actually did that when he was trying to get Rem back into her senses, but since Rem no longer is remembered, she got confused for a bit, I wonder if their twin psychic link is more powerful than we think, and that she will end up remembering Rem. Wrote the above while watching, and then it was addressed a moment later lol. Hmm, so I'm now realizing that the reason why she's more loyal to Roswall than ever is because she has nobody else, she used to have Rem, but now she doesn't, and that's why she was ok with being a sacrificial pawn, because she had nobody else to live and come back for. Wow, I did not expect Frederica to be so cooperative after suspecting her for so long. My theory was that she's actually half-mabeast and answered to her creator or to a shaman. But now I'm not so sure. Who does she have an oath/contract with? A witch? Wait, is Ram using a wand? Probably one that Roswall gave her to channel her mana better, like a portable horn. Maybe because Rem is not around to do the fighting. Return of the Shamac! Why did he grasp his chest? That didn't happen before...is it because his gate still isn't healed? Or is it because he's using the Witch's miasma for Shamac? Ram just casually throws Subaru out of the cloud. She's stronger than before. Wait, so Elsa was roaming around the mansion for two days straight? What for? Looking for someone, like Beatrice? I guess Frederica isn't in cahoots with Elsa after all, unless it's an elaborate act, since we never see her again after she goes off to fight her. Woah, did not expect Frederica to just rip off her clothes, if she was going to transform, then they would've ripped in the transformation anyways lol Did not expect her to go full beast. I guess Garf gave the stone knowing that she needed it to fully transform. My theory is that because its a pair, one sibling needs the other's stone to fully-transform, kind of like how Ram and Rem only had one horn each when they were born. That's no normal mabeast, it got bats floating around and everything! That's definitely (theory) someone who has transformed. Elsa? or Maylie? I'm going to have to go back and watch what happened when Subaru was floating in and out of consciousness. It sounded like Emilia, but that can't be! Edit: Never mind, that was totally Ram, I guess she tried to save Subaru by getting him onto Patrasche, but looks like they got knocked back by that mabeast. Excellent animation. I have to admit, I started crying when I realized that it was only going to be Petra's arm. I almost threw up from gagging (happens when I get incredibly disturbed). It's been so long since I cried in a Re:Zero episode, I think I might just cry again thinking that, out of joy. I was thinking this would just be another exposition episode. I should've known they were going to do that to Petra when she was acting all cute for too long. That cry of Subaru's got me. Best anguished scream he's ever given in the whole series. Looks like Ram's hair tie and Patrasche's body means they all died. I think Ram had to cut off Petra's arm because she was trapped under the rubble and Subaru wouldn't let go. Lots of jump cuts this episode. I wonder if those were in the LN too. (This you can tell me about, whether or not those random cuts were LN material or not, which would explain a lot). Brings back memories of when I watched Corpse Party, when someone was left holding just the arm of the person. That was traumatizing then and even more so now. Maylie, a new name, very interesting. My theory is that Maylie was the mabeast we saw earlier, and that Maylie is actually the blue-haired girl we saw in S1 who was controlling the ulgarm. So now not only do we have Elsa to worry about, but a super powerful mabeast that looks like Melaquera, the beast in the Frozen Bond OVA (My other theory was that Elsa was the mabeast the whole time) Hmm...Elsa's client knows that Subaru is a shut-in. Echidona and Satella know about his past. But they couldn't employ Elsa, so who else? (Theory) Someone with a Gospel that actually talks about Subaru? Would make sense, because Elsa apparently knew the future of what would've happened if Subaru hadn't reset. In that case, her client could be Roswall, because it seems as if both of them have access to the contents of a future-telling Gospel, and both know more about Subaru than they should. But why would he? What were those spikes that Elsa threw at them? Was it Elsa? That's a new one. Is she half-porcupine? It looked like Ram fully expected her arm to be shredded, but her arm is stronger than the average human's. Plus, she moved around like an animal when fighting Reinhard. Beatrice saved Subaru. Is it because she doesn't want to see people die, or does she know that she is being targeted and wants Subaru's help? We all expected Subaru to die and reset, but I'm glad he didn't. Now it's getting interesting. Tea was next to Beatrice. It probably was always there, but now tea has a new meaning. Still think Beatrice is a former Witch, or a relative/friend of a Witch, or a current Witch who has changed her name Episode was called the Maiden's Gospel. There were three maids, and no Gospel in sight. Very interesting choice for a title. ok now its confusing hahaha so wait the beast that we saw in Hyouketsu no Kizuna is diff to the beast in this ep? and also did meili make an appearance in s1 if so what ep? subaru is not the shut in its beatrice of course and also satella is just another nickname for echidna right? The beast in Frozen Bonds is different from this one, they have completely different character designs, if you want to check back and see. The one in Frozen Bonds is named Melaquera or something, this one we don’t know. They look similar in that they both are quadrupeds that look like animals and are strong and dope-looking, but that’s pretty much it. Melaquera could talk, and it seemed more like a spirit than a mabeast, so now that I think about it, they aren’t similar at all, I don’t know why I said that in my post. |
Aug 13, 2020 7:46 AM
#208
fullofregrets09 said: Natsude_tanaka said: fullofregrets09 said: Note: Please don't confirm or deny any of my theories. I only want to get my thoughts out by asking these rhetorical questions that I don't want answers to. It takes away from the hype. I've waited patiently years for this whilst managing to dodge spoilers left and right. Don't fail me now y'all. Wow, people are really handling things differently now. I'm guessing Garfiel only wanted him to do the trials when he was the only one who knew that Subaru could do it, but since he blurted it out to everyone, including Ryuzu and Ram, Roswall's confidante, he couldn't do that anymore without consequence. He could've made it so that everyone thought Emilia was doing them instead of Subaru. And then there's Emilia, who doesn't want to turn tail and run. Props to her. Even Roswall was acting different, he didn't sound like he trusted or had faith in Subaru anymore. Glad to see someone finally pick up on Subaru's ramblings that could clue them in on RBD. More so than ever, I think (theory) that Roswall knows something about RBD That pause that Ram had when Subaru was joking about throwing her off into the distance, Subaru actually did that when he was trying to get Rem back into her senses, but since Rem no longer is remembered, she got confused for a bit, I wonder if their twin psychic link is more powerful than we think, and that she will end up remembering Rem. Wrote the above while watching, and then it was addressed a moment later lol. Hmm, so I'm now realizing that the reason why she's more loyal to Roswall than ever is because she has nobody else, she used to have Rem, but now she doesn't, and that's why she was ok with being a sacrificial pawn, because she had nobody else to live and come back for. Wow, I did not expect Frederica to be so cooperative after suspecting her for so long. My theory was that she's actually half-mabeast and answered to her creator or to a shaman. But now I'm not so sure. Who does she have an oath/contract with? A witch? Wait, is Ram using a wand? Probably one that Roswall gave her to channel her mana better, like a portable horn. Maybe because Rem is not around to do the fighting. Return of the Shamac! Why did he grasp his chest? That didn't happen before...is it because his gate still isn't healed? Or is it because he's using the Witch's miasma for Shamac? Ram just casually throws Subaru out of the cloud. She's stronger than before. Wait, so Elsa was roaming around the mansion for two days straight? What for? Looking for someone, like Beatrice? I guess Frederica isn't in cahoots with Elsa after all, unless it's an elaborate act, since we never see her again after she goes off to fight her. Woah, did not expect Frederica to just rip off her clothes, if she was going to transform, then they would've ripped in the transformation anyways lol Did not expect her to go full beast. I guess Garf gave the stone knowing that she needed it to fully transform. My theory is that because its a pair, one sibling needs the other's stone to fully-transform, kind of like how Ram and Rem only had one horn each when they were born. That's no normal mabeast, it got bats floating around and everything! That's definitely (theory) someone who has transformed. Elsa? or Maylie? I'm going to have to go back and watch what happened when Subaru was floating in and out of consciousness. It sounded like Emilia, but that can't be! Edit: Never mind, that was totally Ram, I guess she tried to save Subaru by getting him onto Patrasche, but looks like they got knocked back by that mabeast. Excellent animation. I have to admit, I started crying when I realized that it was only going to be Petra's arm. I almost threw up from gagging (happens when I get incredibly disturbed). It's been so long since I cried in a Re:Zero episode, I think I might just cry again thinking that, out of joy. I was thinking this would just be another exposition episode. I should've known they were going to do that to Petra when she was acting all cute for too long. That cry of Subaru's got me. Best anguished scream he's ever given in the whole series. Looks like Ram's hair tie and Patrasche's body means they all died. I think Ram had to cut off Petra's arm because she was trapped under the rubble and Subaru wouldn't let go. Lots of jump cuts this episode. I wonder if those were in the LN too. (This you can tell me about, whether or not those random cuts were LN material or not, which would explain a lot). Brings back memories of when I watched Corpse Party, when someone was left holding just the arm of the person. That was traumatizing then and even more so now. Maylie, a new name, very interesting. My theory is that Maylie was the mabeast we saw earlier, and that Maylie is actually the blue-haired girl we saw in S1 who was controlling the ulgarm. So now not only do we have Elsa to worry about, but a super powerful mabeast that looks like Melaquera, the beast in the Frozen Bond OVA (My other theory was that Elsa was the mabeast the whole time) Hmm...Elsa's client knows that Subaru is a shut-in. Echidona and Satella know about his past. But they couldn't employ Elsa, so who else? (Theory) Someone with a Gospel that actually talks about Subaru? Would make sense, because Elsa apparently knew the future of what would've happened if Subaru hadn't reset. In that case, her client could be Roswall, because it seems as if both of them have access to the contents of a future-telling Gospel, and both know more about Subaru than they should. But why would he? What were those spikes that Elsa threw at them? Was it Elsa? That's a new one. Is she half-porcupine? It looked like Ram fully expected her arm to be shredded, but her arm is stronger than the average human's. Plus, she moved around like an animal when fighting Reinhard. Beatrice saved Subaru. Is it because she doesn't want to see people die, or does she know that she is being targeted and wants Subaru's help? We all expected Subaru to die and reset, but I'm glad he didn't. Now it's getting interesting. Tea was next to Beatrice. It probably was always there, but now tea has a new meaning. Still think Beatrice is a former Witch, or a relative/friend of a Witch, or a current Witch who has changed her name Episode was called the Maiden's Gospel. There were three maids, and no Gospel in sight. Very interesting choice for a title. ok now its confusing hahaha so wait the beast that we saw in Hyouketsu no Kizuna is diff to the beast in this ep? and also did meili make an appearance in s1 if so what ep? subaru is not the shut in its beatrice of course and also satella is just another nickname for echidna right? The beast in Frozen Bonds is different from this one, they have completely different character designs, if you want to check back and see. The one in Frozen Bonds is named Melaquera or something, this one we don’t know. They look similar in that they both are quadrupeds that look like animals and are strong and dope-looking, but that’s pretty much it. Melaquera could talk, and it seemed more like a spirit than a mabeast, so now that I think about it, they aren’t similar at all, I don’t know why I said that in my post. ? The demon beast from this episode is the same kind of the beast that was eaten by the black lethal slime in Frozen Bonds movie. Not Melankuera. There is a screenshot of it in the begining of previous page. |
Aug 13, 2020 7:54 AM
#209
I recently watched Frozen Bond, and I still didn’t remember seeing that beast before. Maybe I need to go in for a rewatch after the 1st cours! Wow! So I guess there’s more than one of them, which means that my theory about it being a transformed Maylie or Elsa is out the window, I guess it’s being controlled like the ulgarm by probably the same shaman, the blue-haired girl |
Aug 13, 2020 8:11 AM
#210
Subaru is definitely getting better if you look at the events from a gamer's perspective and he's the MC. not the best but the improvement is still there. just remember that at the end of the day he's playing a kaizo level pretty much. I've seen kaizo players play kaizo levels and you DEFINITELY need the lives. you just can't first try this level. inb4 speedrunning |
>I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
Aug 13, 2020 8:14 AM
#211
The moment the mansion collapsed while Subaru was holding petra's arms i was hoping they won't do a thing where the hands is separated from the body and fuck they did my heart. Petra no, they're all fucking dead. And Maylie! What?! Really great episode, this season has been really great so far and I assume it's going to get even better. |
Aug 13, 2020 8:48 AM
#212
Aug 13, 2020 8:49 AM
#213
I hope this encounter with Beako to be the most mature by Subaru so far. In all the others, mostly he was being a joker, or he was in full shock or PTSD (second arc after second death, Emilia's death), and in every, impatient like a child. The set up now is the worst, but also nothing that he was not used before. He surely will gain a big information this time by using the "code" received from Trollswaal. But i hope for the conversation to be something different from usual, kashira. |
Aug 13, 2020 8:50 AM
#214
dasprn said: why is it that Subaru forgets the advice when he resets? That we don't know |
Aug 13, 2020 9:12 AM
#215
fullofregrets09 said: swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: SoraSenpai said: God Damn I love Frederica even more now then ever. I love how she can control her hair I thought that was pretty cool. Also I LOVE her transformation sequence as well. Honestly this was a pretty good moment for Emilia as well that will probably be thrown away once Subaru eventually resets. (Unless the reset updates) Why Beatrice why did you save him? Everyone is toast! I still think Subaru will reset. Also Rem told Subaru that if he ever saw Beatrice to tell her "Roswall said to ask the question." Speaking of Roswall my man looked super suspect in this episode. Subaru kind of messes up when talking to him which made Roswall question him in some type of way which makes me think that Roswell has some sort of idea abut Subaru's reset ability. Hopefully our Crew is safe next week Oh yeah! I totally forgot about that part, where Subaru can just ask Beatrice to ask the question. I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. I want to see everything change, I don’t want something that significant to be carried over into the next cours. Or blood loss, he was bleeding very badly and it looks like he may have just lost his left hand. swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: SoraSenpai said: God Damn I love Frederica even more now then ever. I love how she can control her hair I thought that was pretty cool. Also I LOVE her transformation sequence as well. Honestly this was a pretty good moment for Emilia as well that will probably be thrown away once Subaru eventually resets. (Unless the reset updates) Why Beatrice why did you save him? Everyone is toast! I still think Subaru will reset. Also Rem told Subaru that if he ever saw Beatrice to tell her "Roswall said to ask the question." Speaking of Roswall my man looked super suspect in this episode. Subaru kind of messes up when talking to him which made Roswall question him in some type of way which makes me think that Roswell has some sort of idea abut Subaru's reset ability. Hopefully our Crew is safe next week Oh yeah! I totally forgot about that part, where Subaru can just ask Beatrice to ask the question. I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. I want to see everything change, I don’t want something that significant to be carried over into the next cours. Or blood loss, he was bleeding very badly and it looks like he may have just lost his left hand. Huh? Did you reply to the wrong post? nah, it was the right post, just use your english skills. It's meant to go with "I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. " Ah. I see now. I spent longer than I would like to admit trying to connect the two, so I had to ask. So I guess that was the significance behind the white handkerchief that was around his hand getting sliced in half, I think you’re right about his hand being cut off too. well the handkerchief was the one on petras hand that he was still holding on to but his left hand isn't visible in the last scene with beako |
Aug 13, 2020 9:14 AM
#216
TS4U said: ChainxBastard said: TS4U said: Something is bothering me. In episode 1, Rem 'AFK' and no one remember her, except Subaru. Why Subaru still remember her? Back in s1 it was found out that Subaru can remember people the White Whale ate. This is old news. Oh yes I remember. How Subaru still remember Rem???? probably because return by death lets him remember stuff from outside the current timeline |
Aug 13, 2020 9:25 AM
#217
Genix said: bluffinie said: Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season Hmm, highly doubtful. Considering that there's far more artwork of Rem, she remained popular even with the native artists, who would've known who got more prominence in the plot. So regardless of what happens, Rem would still be more popular, being in a constant coma or not. Rem is still my favorite character too. But this is her season to shine in my opinion |
Aug 13, 2020 9:31 AM
#218
Ok so I think it's kind of good that beatrice saved subaru before he died. She obviously knows a lot more about what's going on than subaru does, so this is the perfect time for him to gain some knowledge. Didn't Roswaal tell him something to tell beatrice if something bad happened? (I can't hardly remember) but if worst comes to worst subaru can just off himself and reset. |
Aug 13, 2020 10:03 AM
#219
swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: SoraSenpai said: God Damn I love Frederica even more now then ever. I love how she can control her hair I thought that was pretty cool. Also I LOVE her transformation sequence as well. Honestly this was a pretty good moment for Emilia as well that will probably be thrown away once Subaru eventually resets. (Unless the reset updates) Why Beatrice why did you save him? Everyone is toast! I still think Subaru will reset. Also Rem told Subaru that if he ever saw Beatrice to tell her "Roswall said to ask the question." Speaking of Roswall my man looked super suspect in this episode. Subaru kind of messes up when talking to him which made Roswall question him in some type of way which makes me think that Roswell has some sort of idea abut Subaru's reset ability. Hopefully our Crew is safe next week Oh yeah! I totally forgot about that part, where Subaru can just ask Beatrice to ask the question. I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. I want to see everything change, I don’t want something that significant to be carried over into the next cours. Or blood loss, he was bleeding very badly and it looks like he may have just lost his left hand. swordmaster2551 said: fullofregrets09 said: SoraSenpai said: God Damn I love Frederica even more now then ever. I love how she can control her hair I thought that was pretty cool. Also I LOVE her transformation sequence as well. Honestly this was a pretty good moment for Emilia as well that will probably be thrown away once Subaru eventually resets. (Unless the reset updates) Why Beatrice why did you save him? Everyone is toast! I still think Subaru will reset. Also Rem told Subaru that if he ever saw Beatrice to tell her "Roswall said to ask the question." Speaking of Roswall my man looked super suspect in this episode. Subaru kind of messes up when talking to him which made Roswall question him in some type of way which makes me think that Roswell has some sort of idea abut Subaru's reset ability. Hopefully our Crew is safe next week Oh yeah! I totally forgot about that part, where Subaru can just ask Beatrice to ask the question. I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. I want to see everything change, I don’t want something that significant to be carried over into the next cours. Or blood loss, he was bleeding very badly and it looks like he may have just lost his left hand. Huh? Did you reply to the wrong post? nah, it was the right post, just use your english skills. It's meant to go with "I really hope he says that in the next episode and isn’t blinded by anger and rage to remember. " Ah. I see now. I spent longer than I would like to admit trying to connect the two, so I had to ask. So I guess that was the significance behind the white handkerchief that was around his hand getting sliced in half, I think you’re right about his hand being cut off too. well the handkerchief was the one on petras hand that he was still holding on to but his left hand isn't visible in the last scene with beako I see it now. I thought it was an animation error, but now it looks deliberate. Well, good thing Beatrice can heal fatal wounds! Or bad thing, depending on how you look at it |
Aug 13, 2020 11:14 AM
#220
So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed? |
Aug 13, 2020 12:08 PM
#221
Honestly this might have been the best episode of the entire series so far! |
Aug 13, 2020 12:31 PM
#222
TS4U said: ChainxBastard said: TS4U said: Something is bothering me. In episode 1, Rem 'AFK' and no one remember her, except Subaru. Why Subaru still remember her? Back in s1 it was found out that Subaru can remember people the White Whale ate. This is old news. Oh yes I remember. How Subaru still remember Rem???? Literally just told you because he can remember people the White Whale ate, meaning that authorities and magical curses of the like don't affect him, since the White Whale was Gluttony. Most likely because of Satella |
Aug 13, 2020 12:35 PM
#223
Aug 13, 2020 12:35 PM
#224
Aug 13, 2020 12:39 PM
#225
swordmaster2551 said: The next episode will answer these questions.So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed? |
Aug 13, 2020 12:57 PM
#226
mozgow said: swordmaster2551 said: The next episode will answer these questions.So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed? Good it's been bugging me almost this ENTIRE season |
Aug 13, 2020 1:05 PM
#227
Holy fuck this episode was crazy. There's something I didn't understand: why can't Subaru just do the trial and help everyone in Emilia's stead? Wait, so that time when Subaru threw Ram into the air...is it in the same timeline as this episode? Or did that happen in a different timeline? When Elsa showed up and shit hit the fan, I was wondering when Subaru would kill himself to retry with better results. Well...he's gonna have to kill himself or die now if he wants to save everyone. I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix. I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances. Honestly, I think I'm going to love this season; the plot's more focused, and very intriguing. The dialogue in this episode was fine. |
Aug 13, 2020 1:09 PM
#228
there was a part where where said she had instructions that perfectly describe what happened in the first loop. so maybe a sin archbishop with a future telling gospel is the client. |
Aug 13, 2020 1:13 PM
#229
Literally_Pride said: there was a part where where said she had instructions that perfectly describe what happened in the first loop. so maybe a sin archbishop with a future telling gospel is the client. You're so close it hurts. |
Aug 13, 2020 1:44 PM
#230
Hmmmm anyone else think Roswaal is up to something? He seems to do a lot behind the scenes, and it is kind of concerning with Elsa showing up to the mansion to kill everyone now. Not saying the two are related, just wondering what he could be up to throughout all this. |
Aug 13, 2020 2:19 PM
#231
AbsurdTurk said: Holy fuck this episode was crazy. There's something I didn't understand: why can't Subaru just do the trial and help everyone in Emilia's stead? Wait, so that time when Subaru threw Ram into the air...is it in the same timeline as this episode? Or did that happen in a different timeline? When Elsa showed up and shit hit the fan, I was wondering when Subaru would kill himself to retry with better results. Well...he's gonna have to kill himself or die now if he wants to save everyone. I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix. I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances. Honestly, I think I'm going to love this season; the plot's more focused, and very intriguing. The dialogue in this episode was fine. they explained it in the episode, Roswaal wants to sell the Emilia hype drink by having her clear it while Garfiel and Ryuzu are forced to accept that to keep a good relationship, a good thing to point out is that Garfiel told Subaru to do it last episode while mentioning he couldnt handle seeing her suffer anymore. |
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Aug 13, 2020 3:29 PM
#232
Literally_Pride said: there was a part where where said she had instructions that perfectly describe what happened in the first loop. so maybe a sin archbishop with a future telling gospel is the client. I was thinking some sort of clairvoyance like being able to see over a great distance type thing. I'd need one more loop to see if Elsa's dialogue changes again. |
Aug 13, 2020 4:04 PM
#233
davidyodo24 said: So subaru fucked up again, he think he can help Emilia by replace her in the trial, it shows us how sometimes your good intention aren't always be good in others people perspective... The wording is the key here. I think he can convince her about it, but that was not the right way to phrase it. And Subaru's way of explaining things of course is always horrible. He gets it right eventually by trial and error after dying over and over >.<" He could take the three trials to spoil them to Emilia without fully completing the last one. As well as trying to get her to trust him more, open up more to him, and be able to give her hints about how to face her own past for the first trial. He could even do it in a previous loop to not be suspicious about the leaks he makes and then drop some wisdom pill for Emilia-tan! My 2 cents. |
bruh |
Aug 13, 2020 4:20 PM
#234
So... i have few comments and few... speculations about what will happen next. In this case i watched only anime so you are free from any spoilers :) Opinion Second (third if we would count Subaru's "past" episode) episode in the row that made my emotions skyrocket i was screaming half of the episode go frckn visit beatrice and ask about what Ram told him last time, i truly love this anime but sometimes i'm annoyed by subaru's lack of true human's logic. If he knows he can return by death, informations about what's going on should be the most important, and after a talk with Beatrice before leaving, we and he too, can assume she knows way more we know and asking her should be priority to understand more.. i think (instead of having tea, but truth is he didnt expect Elsa to come so fast so yea...) Loved scene with Petra when he was greeting them outside. It was just sooo adorable. Just wish if they showed some more emotions on her face, but it was 10/10 for me anyway. Really enjoyed the 'world war' camera (as someone called it) when we saw how subaru was flying high overall it was once more amazing episode but i felt like animations were a little downgraded but i read some rumors this episode was made in 'home office'. Don't know if it's true though. PS. i actually had to read comments to understand (i kinda would rather not to know...) that Petra died when roof collapsed and later Ram has cutted her hand off to free and take subaru.... damn it broke me So... my thoughts about what's going on (feel free to hop in): Frederica might be good after all (voting for her as next waifu and stuff), but i'm not giving this statement 100%. The pact she has and makes her not talk might be something by what she is doing stuff, we dont even see her dying or anything, she might as well work with Elsa. She even went to forrest to "check the barrier' but wouldn't that mean she had to let the mosnter in? if she really went to check the actual barrier, she would realize something was wrong as there was nearly no time between that and Elsa showing up. (not watching with english subs and focusing mostly on japanese so i could catch it different than people with translated subs) Also she being suprised by teleportation could be: 1.someone did something with the amulet she didn't know about 2.This can be just semantics but Subaru mentioned only "teleportation" and she was suprised by that and that could be done by something/someone else. As i recall inside barrier they were talking about explosion which happend because of the amulet, not teleportation. But again, these might be just semantics. I will have to watch slowly all episodes later again anyway :P (I might wait until next week's episode) Don't know if its only me, but i'm not sure about last scene but Ram escaped? i didn't see her body there, and at first, before knowing about her... slash... seing Patrasche made me think she analized her "priorities" again and escaped or listened to some order we don't know yet... again Above Subaru's order of doing things, I was glad at least he asked Elsa for her master. No idea from which group she is from. I'm sure someone connected to elections as she reffered to subaru when they met for first time as "kankeisha" so that would mean he is one of connected to the case (but again as japanese beautiful is, we could always understand it as he reffered about him as "kankeisha" as he is "one of them, connected to that" and she is from background group aand of course finally Beatrice appeared and we will probably know some even bigger reason to hate Roswaal (after the last episode? damn, it was years since i was so angry i wanted to punch character, not caring it's anime (i belive last time was School Days :P )). Until this point we know his family, he is, serving Witch of Knowledge, sorry, Echidna, he is known for having biggest library with a lot of forbidden knowledge so i bet the "truth" will be connected to it. Subaru might hear also about his plans to kill dragon or smth, dont know. I don't really understand the rules of the world and what's between all of the sins and witches etc., but i would speculate Roswaal and Beatrice (seems like her being spirit might be a big thing) might be somehow connected to the sins as they have connections to witch. We didn't see Frederica's body, nor Rem's body so i'm really scared Subaru could actually have a checkpoint with (I'm going to literally pray for that not to happen) only dead Petra... please not please not please not please not...... Else and her friend... Mild? was that? could it be the same guy from the cult who was controlling the beasts last time when they attacked (dog like monsters)?? Above that i'm wondering why the heck Elsa not only knew who is in the mansion, but also how she knew when Subaru was suppoused to show up?! First could be explained by just spy, but second? That would actually confirm she is working with cult as so far (witch afterall..) only they could "predict" future with their bibles Last, for now, thought would be that after we will know what beatrice will have to tell us, we might know something dark about the barrier/those lands itself. We (i mean Subaru) have no clue about those lands and what Roswaal is still not telling us about. We know litterally nothing. That people live there and we need to take down the barrier. Like after the barrier will be taken down, witch will be free or something else. I can not belive Roswaal got so hurt just to save them. Something is behind it. And Subaru is going to learn it after the fact. I'm going way ahead with thoughts but i'm scared everything will go badly, Emila will learn that IT was released thanks/because of her, she will also learn about Subaru not telling her stuff before and will have even worse contact with him, being angry at him... again (because as we know, if Subaru would get checkpoint right now, he... left with not that 'good' relations with Emilia after she thought he think she can't do this.... Damn next episode might be even bigger than this and/or previous one with punchable Roswaal explaining why he was (or actually wasn't) doing all of that hmm.... what do you think? PS. Hope my english wasn't that hard to read :P |
Aug 13, 2020 4:44 PM
#235
StarAlone said: I did not expect anyone will mention arc 1 here. Nice job recalling that (or did you re-watch arc 1 ?)Above Subaru's order of doing things, I was glad at least he asked Elsa for her master. No idea from which group she is from. I'm sure someone connected to elections as she referred to Subaru when they met for first time as "kankeisha" so that would mean he is one of connected to the case (but again as Japanese beautiful is, we could always understand it as he referred about him as "kankeisha" as he is "one of them, connected to that" and she is from background group What Elsa said back then (it was translated as "So you're one of them") will make sense once you learn who hired her. StarAlone said: This one will also make sense once it is revealed who hired her.Above that i'm wondering why the heck Elsa not only knew who is in the mansion, but also how she knew when Subaru was supposed to show up?! First could be explained by just spy, but second? That would actually confirm she is working with cult as so far (witch afterall..) only they could "predict" future with their bibles |
Aug 13, 2020 4:51 PM
#236
AbsurdTurk said: I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix. Exactly, don't know if you or anyone else watched it so i wont go into details but that's the reason i loved so much Steins;Gate AbsurdTurk said: I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances. I was actually talking about it with people after 2 episode. After we saw amzing new opening (song wise i like previous ones more though :P) on the end. But this one shows exactly what he went trough, his... experiences Not sure if you do realize or not, that the amazing scene with text being written in he background, is modified version of what subaru was saying in the first season in new opening he said キミを すくうためなら オレは なんどでも 死ぬ (to save you, ill die any number of times~) when until now he used to say like おれが かならず すくってみせる (ill prove to you im going to save you~) (both are not my main languages and to be honest english is quite too simple to translate it perfectly to keep the whole meaning, but you should get a point) The point is they are built kinda on the same sentence? words? well... meaning, but they really show us the change of how subaru thinks now, especially in new opening last that has been changed/added (one that really shows us the impact of his words) "死ぬ" (to die) being written with blood. The biggest difference is that he used to yell it without thinking, without giving any thought about consequences and mainly his actions. He was just screaming 'im going to save you' like a random hero, but it changed hugly in new opening. It all might be just my analyzing too much though... It might be only me and only because 死ぬ is popular kanji and looks really cool especially for forgein audience BUT! the author do like to play with words and everything else but 死ぬ was written using only alphabet, and キミ (you) and オレ (I (me)) are even written using second alphaphet, katakana, which is often used like that by young people because its simpler/faster/cooler/saucy(?). While 死ぬ by writing it in kanji might be showing us how serious, mature he is right now about it, when giving so serious promises But maybe it is just me ;P |
Aug 13, 2020 5:00 PM
#237
mozgow said: StarAlone said: I did not expect anyone will mention arc 1 here. Nice job recalling that (or did you re-watch arc 1 ?)Above Subaru's order of doing things, I was glad at least he asked Elsa for her master. No idea from which group she is from. I'm sure someone connected to elections as she referred to Subaru when they met for first time as "kankeisha" so that would mean he is one of connected to the case (but again as Japanese beautiful is, we could always understand it as he referred about him as "kankeisha" as he is "one of them, connected to that" and she is from background group What Elsa said back then (it was translated as "So you're one of them") will make sense once you learn who hired her. StarAlone said: This one will also make sense once it is revealed who hired her.Above that i'm wondering why the heck Elsa not only knew who is in the mansion, but also how she knew when Subaru was supposed to show up?! First could be explained by just spy, but second? That would actually confirm she is working with cult as so far (witch afterall..) only they could "predict" future with their bibles Thanks! I watched first season few times but i just remember these stuff... Usually you just remember key fragments but this one especially? Because of the phrazing? I don't know :P Still hear in my head music getting darker and her 関係者なのね (Kankeisha na no ne) haha |
Aug 13, 2020 5:12 PM
#238
What I don't understand is how Subaru can't connect the dots even when Roswal told him he is doing it intentionally for Emilia to gain the favor of people in the previous episode. It's obvious that Frederica is doing it for Roswal (and Elsa possibly too) yet she doesn't even suspects him when facing the Frederica in the mansion and was confronting her so painfully about it. I really hope he at least thinks about why Roswal wants the barrier removed. I mean, everything is there just to make Emilia position stronger and to make Natsuki x Emilia bond so that he would do anything to save her (the funny part would be if we learn in the end when coronation happens that she really has Satella locked up inside since very beginning and this was all her plan to get to the throne, Roswal and his schemes to shape Subaru included - actually I kinda expected they disregard this twist early on only to confirm it later but well, it's obvious anyway). Another interesting take is the fact that IF Satella was able to give Subaru his Return by Death ability, a) there was a reason and benefit for her, b) she can most likely see the future and determine which Subaru's action would be the most beneficial for her. The question what actually triggers those convenient save points also never crosses his mind. |
Aug 13, 2020 5:31 PM
#239
StarAlone said: It might be only me and only because 死ぬ is popular kanji and looks really cool especially for forgein audience BUT! the author do like to play with words and everything else but 死ぬ was written using only alphabet, and キミ (you) and オレ (I (me)) are even written using second alphaphet, katakana, which is often used like that by young people because its simpler/faster/cooler/saucy(?). While 死ぬ by writing it in kanji might be showing us how serious, mature he is right now about it, when giving so serious promises Nice catch, haven't realized they actually used both in the OP. Although it's actually more simple, katakana is used for emphasis, like italics in the text and they made it so that the word YOU and I intentionally stands out. It probably means he'll is willing to save her by any means necessary and it's to show his determination. |
Aug 13, 2020 6:29 PM
#240
Oh Petra.... :( bluffinie said: Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season Agreed, she is already a strong contender for the MVP. :3 |
Aug 13, 2020 6:40 PM
#241
Seems to me Roswaal is being controlled by some higher order - based on the shine in his eyes? the auspicious King we've never met?. I wonder if Phase 2 of the Greed trials is for Subaru to choose between Rem or Emilia. It would make sense if Roswaal did this, (and also if he was praying that Subaru would find a loop hole--but ultimately believe that he'd choose Emilia in worse case scenario). Elsa mentioned that two maids had to die, so in theory any two could die. It could be referring to Petra and Frederica, but I think Rem is a bigger priority as she is a "weakness" to Subaru's 'loyalty' to Emilia. Of course, if this was the theory-- even though Petra would be the perfect scapegoat to save Rem...now Subaru's attached to her too...hmm....... what if Subaru/Beatrice have to play the part of the maid in order to save the others? What if Re:ZERO-world start from zero is to see how Emilia will handle losing everything precious to her? Oh god...oh god...oh god...stop with the bad theories. Interesting that Ram acknowledges Gaarf's crush on her; is it because she got that Oneesama energy? Is that his kink? LOL |
Aug 13, 2020 7:15 PM
#242
I think Beako didn't save him. It's just his "RPG-Luck" again - that would fit the running - gag. I do think he's gonna learn something by talking to her tho, before he dies. (Prettys sure Elsa cut him somewhere and he's gonna collapse shortly after talking) As for Elsa. I love this character. She never feels TOO Op, or has some kind of crazy magic that makes her untouchable. Just agility and malice . Loving it |
Aug 13, 2020 7:27 PM
#243
So the weekly dose of suffering for Subaru starts... The beginning of the episode gave me S1 vibes when he used knowledge from a past life to try to do things different but he failed and they thought bad of him. I really like that we are getting more of Ram, more of her personality and shit. Action scenes were really good, I like the tension and you can still feel the desperation and fear of Subaru like in S1. Also, we are 6 episodes in for this season and people still thinking that Beatrice give a shit about the mansion... really? |
Aug 13, 2020 7:30 PM
#244
StarAlone said: AbsurdTurk said: I like how Subaru's new conflict is dealing with the fact that people don't care about Rem as much as he does. It's not something that Return By Death can just fix. Exactly, don't know if you or anyone else watched it so i wont go into details but that's the reason i loved so much Steins;Gate AbsurdTurk said: I also like how Subaru actually seems to be thinking more ahead, than just kinda reacting to things happening. I've also noticed these past few episodes, he yells unnecessary a lot less. In fact, in this episode, yes he did yell, but it was normal given the circumstances. I was actually talking about it with people after 2 episode. After we saw amzing new opening (song wise i like previous ones more though :P) on the end. But this one shows exactly what he went trough, his... experiences Not sure if you do realize or not, that the amazing scene with text being written in he background, is modified version of what subaru was saying in the first season in new opening he said キミを すくうためなら オレは なんどでも 死ぬ (to save you, ill die any number of times~) when until now he used to say like おれが かならず すくってみせる (ill prove to you im going to save you~) (both are not my main languages and to be honest english is quite too simple to translate it perfectly to keep the whole meaning, but you should get a point) The point is they are built kinda on the same sentence? words? well... meaning, but they really show us the change of how subaru thinks now, especially in new opening last that has been changed/added (one that really shows us the impact of his words) "死ぬ" (to die) being written with blood. The biggest difference is that he used to yell it without thinking, without giving any thought about consequences and mainly his actions. He was just screaming 'im going to save you' like a random hero, but it changed hugly in new opening. It all might be just my analyzing too much though... It might be only me and only because 死ぬ is popular kanji and looks really cool especially for forgein audience BUT! the author do like to play with words and everything else but 死ぬ was written using only alphabet, and キミ (you) and オレ (I (me)) are even written using second alphaphet, katakana, which is often used like that by young people because its simpler/faster/cooler/saucy(?). While 死ぬ by writing it in kanji might be showing us how serious, mature he is right now about it, when giving so serious promises But maybe it is just me ;P Hey thanks for these rich curiosities there. About the point in bold, it become clear in this 6th episode. I myself never avoided to criticize Subaru lack of focus and foolish personality. But now he is practically the Cautious Hero. lol Now he is legitimately doing the best he can. If we call him "useless", it is just the honest and objective conclusion due to his lack of "superpowers", since he is just a weakling. The only special power of Subaru is gather information and restart after dying. Until there, until the information be enough to deal with the pwerful menace, he always will be weak and "useless". |
Rob7Aug 13, 2020 7:33 PM
Aug 13, 2020 7:42 PM
#245
Better than all the previous episodes combine. This is the rezero I was missing. |
:v |
Aug 13, 2020 7:46 PM
#246
QcDiablo said: mfqxe330 said: I mean, he's making the call to go back and fight to save Rem yet he did nothing at all lol He expected to arrive much earlier than Elsa and see if Frederica was the culprit, but Elsa was told to kill the people in the mansion right before Subaru arrived himself. You can see that Subaru arriving earlier messed up Elsa's plan so she had to get the help of Meili and the mabeasts to be able to kill everyone efficiently. I'm talking about later on, when Ram, Frederica, Petra and himself manage to get out of the mansion. He makes the call to go back and save Rem placing Petra in danger, I know at this point that he has been like that since S1 but still, I can barely bear with him lol |
Aug 13, 2020 8:11 PM
#247
swordmaster2551 said: So Frederica and Garfield are half-siblings right? That's how frederica was able to leave sanctuary without freeing the rest of them, she's not mixed? It is a huge "Plot Hole Flag" that i hope Tappei to be able to avoid. A Plot Hole Flag happens when even with the Suspention of Disbelief, the story made a certain rule or logic scenario to be so clear, so right, that it restrains the author from came with too convenient artifices to solve or change the situation. So many authors just ignore all what was previously taken seriously in the plot and force a solution up from the sleeve, with convincent EXCEPTIONS, or Deus Ex Machina, or new elements that could be introduced earlier (for example "what? Now the beast-races can teleport?) The rules of the Sanctuary are clear: - Half-blood cant leave with their souls. - It is like this since hundreds of years. But now we know that Furry-rica came from the Sanctuary and is Garfield older sister. My GUESS: - A simple explanation could be "Fred and Garf was not born inside the barrier". But it also was eliminated since we know that Garf can't do the trials for being born there, and Fred came from there. - So, with a little plot hole, Fred is just an empty body occupied with another soul, since she died after leave the barrier, maybe for accident. And her "misterious master" (could be Roswaal? It would be another plot hole, since contradicts some of his actions) is the one who granted her actual life. ------------------ Btw, another huge Plot Hole Flag is what Roswaal knows about Return by Death. Come on, since the last episode we can just assume that he knows all the shit about it, and is openly conducting his acts to force Subaru to use it. Come with another explanation fatefully would let plot holes all over the way. |
Aug 14, 2020 12:32 AM
#248
skyUFO said: Damn, Perta and everyone else probably died there, and now Subaru was saved... I feel like Subaru will die soon though, there is no way he'll accept this kind of result. Can't wait for what Beato has to say to Subaru at this point though And damn that 3rd person view from Subaru's eyes when the ceiling collapsed and all was crazy... Indeed, i got Jojo and Demon slayer vibes. It was so clean too, love the detail they put into splitting his vision being clean with the blood. |
Aug 14, 2020 12:33 AM
#249
bluffinie said: Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season Ive heard Echidnas the top contender tho, idk abt that lol |
Aug 14, 2020 3:40 AM
#250
Azri3l said: bluffinie said: Beatrice will be everyone’s favorite character of 2nd season Ive heard Echidnas the top contender tho, idk abt that lol Lots of top contenders this season. |
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