| I'm a proud incel, I love women. I dunno about MGTOW though Chazniac said: this thread is a clusterfuck, lmao constant bait between several people who are all wrong, with occasional helpings of ridiculous statements, unbelievable smugness, and a shocking lack of sympathy for fellow humans, although to be fair there are some good points too i can't wait to see what happens next now this sounds like the MAL I know.... |
Ryuk9428 said: 149597871 said: @Ryuk9428 I mean it's your choice, you don't have to listen to me. Your "luck" theory is flawed in my opinion, some of the situations you are talking about sound completely outlandish to me personally. Even if we were in some sort of a parallel universe where this is true what would the moral of the story be? This self-created excuse is purely meant to prevent you from acknowledging the real reasons behind your failure by creating a comfortable illusion that nothing depends on you and everything is based only on "luck". If you look at the world and the people around you, you'll see that the reality is far different. Everyone goes through all kinds of different struggles, but some people grow up and fight while other prefer to blame someone else for their failures and give up or put the blame on something they have no control over. If a girl had to choose one of the two it is quite obvious which one she'll go for. The fact that you are using the word "luck" instead of "odds", "probability", "chances", etc. also make you sound like you belong in that second category. The moral of the story is that our environment and the society we create is what determines people's luck. Its not consistent across all countries. Incels are mostly a US and Middle Eastern phenomenon. So that means there's something going on in those countries which produce incels at a disproportionate rate to other countries. Therefore, since incels cannot solve this issue themselves, its up to the rest of us to look at what creates incels. Then, we figure out how to shape society in a way so as to not create incels. In the Middle East, I think polygamy is the main factor to blame. I've gone over that in detail. Polygamous marriages are obviously not what's going on in the United States. The United States situation is much more complicated. I do think legalizing prostitution and making it accessible across the board would do a lot in helping this phenomenon. I don't think it would completely solve it though. A major part of the incel phenomenon is because gender relations in general are in very bad shape in the US. A lot of women have been taught to be scared of men. The fear of men is so bad that some women are claiming to be lesbians even though they aren't because having sex with girls feels safer to them than having sex with men. As a result of women's fear of men, a lot more men are having difficulty getting sex and emotional satisfaction with women because a lot of women are not allowing men into their private spaces or make them work very hard in order to do so and jump through numerous hoops to prove they aren't dangerous. When men can't get sex and emotional satisfaction from women, they become angry at them and some men take that anger and become violent. Some don't become violent, but do become more sexually aggressive and threatening. As a result of the increase in violent and sexually aggressive, desperate men, women become more scared of men. This results in more men becoming inceled, and more men becoming angry at women. Its a vicious cycle that self-perpetuates and will only get worse and worse the more this cycle is ignored and denied. The only way to eliminate inceled men's anger is to give them the affection they so desperately crave. If they get what they want, they don't have a reason to be angry anymore. This will result in a decrease in violent of sexually aggressive men as men become more satisfied with their relationship with women. As men become more satisfied, women's fear of men will drop as well because of the less frequent encounters with potentially dangerous men. "our environment and the society we create is what determines people's luck" No, society can reduce your chances to get laid at best but it cannot affect your "luck". No person or organization has any control over it. That's why I was saying that you shouldn't use that word. And yes, there are plenty of fucked up things in our society. It is far from perfect, there are obvious flaws and it can affect the things that you've said to a certain degree. However, I'm still not buying this theory. I see that the focus has changed from "it's all luck" to "it's all society's fault" and the connection between the two is apparently that the latter determines the former which is simply incorrect as explained in my first paragraph. This is the first time I hear about the Middle East having this problem to be honest. As for America - no. Women aren't afraid of men, at least most of them aren't. In fact nowadays women are a lot "less afraid of men" than they were a century ago and society has still made it that far so you cannot really use this as an excuse. Also I've never heard of a nearly 100% hetero girl forcing herself to have sex with other women because she is too afraid of the opposite sex. Which brings us to the solution that you proposed - paying a girl to have sex with you which is a pretty desperate one but since it is almost a hundred percent guaranteed that you'll get what you want without many risks or any courage required I kinda get why you chose it over some more rational ones. "The only way to eliminate inceled men's anger is to give them the affection they so desperately crave" No, this would be an awful solution. First of all if you want something you should work for it until you truly deserve it. A society that gives things for free to people to "eliminate their anger" isn't a society that is going to survive for too long. It is like giving your children what they want every time they start crying. You'll end up with a bunch of spoiled kids. For example you want women, I want to work at NASA. Should I go to a bunch of scientists and start crying how unlucky I am and that they couldn't possibly understand me because they were too fortunate and this is the only reason why they've succeed and the only way of making me less angry is accepting me as one of them and so on? Also women are actual people who have free will and human rights so you can't really "distribute" them to the members of the incel community just so they can shut up. Not even the biggest american socialist would ever think of something as irrational as that. Even in communist countries like North Korea that is rarely the case and the country in general isn't a good example of an utopian society to look up to. |
149597871Sep 2, 2019 11:05 PM
SadMadoka said: Ryuk9428 said: Ever heard of the friend zone? Only losers remain stuck in the friend zone despite wanting out. (I mean in general, not in respect to a specific individual, since a given person may never want you.) Nearly everyone I dated was a friend first. This isn't true. A lot of girls are afraid of entering relationships with friends because they think if it doesn't work out they will lose them as a friend. Sometimes they just think they aren't good enough for them and go to bad relationships instead . In other cases they actually do want to be in a relationship with their friend but don't want to do it right then because they are afraid it will go so well that's the last relationship they will have and start getting commitment fears for no reason. |
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149597871 said: Ryuk9428 said: The moral of the story is that our environment and the society we create is what determines people's luck. Its not consistent across all countries. Incels are mostly a US and Middle Eastern phenomenon. So that means there's something going on in those countries which produce incels at a disproportionate rate to other countries. Therefore, since incels cannot solve this issue themselves, its up to the rest of us to look at what creates incels. Then, we figure out how to shape society in a way so as to not create incels. In the Middle East, I think polygamy is the main factor to blame. I've gone over that in detail. Polygamous marriages are obviously not what's going on in the United States. The United States situation is much more complicated. I do think legalizing prostitution and making it accessible across the board would do a lot in helping this phenomenon. I don't think it would completely solve it though. A major part of the incel phenomenon is because gender relations in general are in very bad shape in the US. A lot of women have been taught to be scared of men. The fear of men is so bad that some women are claiming to be lesbians even though they aren't because having sex with girls feels safer to them than having sex with men. As a result of women's fear of men, a lot more men are having difficulty getting sex and emotional satisfaction with women because a lot of women are not allowing men into their private spaces or make them work very hard in order to do so and jump through numerous hoops to prove they aren't dangerous. When men can't get sex and emotional satisfaction from women, they become angry at them and some men take that anger and become violent. Some don't become violent, but do become more sexually aggressive and threatening. As a result of the increase in violent and sexually aggressive, desperate men, women become more scared of men. This results in more men becoming inceled, and more men becoming angry at women. Its a vicious cycle that self-perpetuates and will only get worse and worse the more this cycle is ignored and denied. The only way to eliminate inceled men's anger is to give them the affection they so desperately crave. If they get what they want, they don't have a reason to be angry anymore. This will result in a decrease in violent of sexually aggressive men as men become more satisfied with their relationship with women. As men become more satisfied, women's fear of men will drop as well because of the less frequent encounters with potentially dangerous men. "our environment and the society we create is what determines people's luck" No, society can reduce your chances to get laid at best but it cannot affect your "luck". No person or organization has any control over it. That's why I was saying that you shouldn't use that word. And yes, there are plenty of fucked up things in our society. It is far from perfect, there are obvious flaws and it can affect the things that you've said to a certain degree. However, I'm still not buying this theory. I see that the focus has changed from "it's all luck" to "it's all society's fault" and the connection between the two is apparently that the latter determines the former which is simply incorrect as explained in my first paragraph. This is the first time I hear about the Middle East having this problem to be honest. As for America - no. Women aren't afraid of men, at least most of them aren't. In fact nowadays women are a lot "less afraid of men" than they were a century ago and society has still made it that far so you cannot really use this as an excuse. Also I've never heard of a nearly 100% hetero girl forcing herself to have sex with other women because she is too afraid of the opposite sex. Which brings us to the solution that you proposed - paying a girl to have sex with you which is a pretty desperate one but since it is almost a hundred percent guaranteed that you'll get what you want without many risks or any courage required I kinda get why you chose it over some more rational ones. "The only way to eliminate inceled men's anger is to give them the affection they so desperately crave" No, this would be an awful solution. First of all if you want something you should work for it until you truly deserve it. A society that gives things for free to people to "eliminate their anger" isn't a society that is going to survive for too long. Also women are actual people who have free will and human rights so you can't really "distribute" them to the members of the incel community just so they can shut up. Not even the biggest american socialist would ever think of something as irrational as that. Even in communist countries like North Korea that is rarely the case and the country in general isn't a good example of an utopian society to look up to. So if America had legal prostitution for $150-200 an hour, sex robots, matchmaking parties with even gender ratios for the explicit purpose of finding a dating partner, matchmaking agencies that find you a partner, an app that plans out and puts you on blind dates instead of this Tinder bullshit, more of an expectation for friends, family, and the community to set their friends up with opposite sex partners, and people participating in all these things that we wouldn't all have a much easier time finding sexual satisfaction? Funny how both you and SadMadoka just assumed I was advocating for some kind of sexual slavery or something. Instead we have a society that thinks getting laid is 100% your responsibility. That everyone should get girls independently. You don't get any help from anyone when it comes to this. Bitch please, you don't even live in the US how would you know if girls are scared of guys here or not? Gender relations here are in the fucking trash. There's a reason why incels, MGTOW, and the red pill all popped up in the past ten years. Yes, its better to allow people's rage to fester out of control, resulting in high suicide rates, the highest rates of depression and anxiety ever seen, an ever increasing mass shooting problem, a rampant issue with sexual assault and an equally large problem of false accusations towards innocent men, then it is to help lonely guys get some pussy? Anything is better than letting those incels have some sex? If people don't deserve sex unless they work adequately for it, then buddy, you're fucked... 149597871 said: even for someone who is below the average level of attractiveness it should be fairly easy to get laid. You never had to work for sex 12354334. You have it too easy and clearly don't deserve it, we're gonna strip you of your ability to get laid and all your memories of the sex you've had, start you again as a 13 year old, and until you get an incel laid, you will never have sex even if it takes you many years. Sounds like a fair deal to me given how much hedonistic pleasure you've so easily indulged in over the years without working for it. Oh it doesn't sound so nice when you might have to go through it does it? The vast majority of incels have worked 100 times harder and deserve it way more than you do. You can't even comprehend the idea of having to approach 100 girls without easily getting sex from them. You think its outlandish and refuse to believe that that could be anyone's reality. What the hell makes somebody who's had it as easy as you do think he has the right to say that other people don't deserve what he's been handed on a silver platter? Upon the reasoning that people shouldn't get sex on a silver platter? How about you try putting yourself out there and get rejected by 1,000 different women and then have everybody tell you that you don't deserve to be happy because you didn't try hard enough? |
Ryuk9428Sep 3, 2019 12:41 AM
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Ryuk9428 said: 149597871 said: "our environment and the society we create is what determines people's luck" No, society can reduce your chances to get laid at best but it cannot affect your "luck". No person or organization has any control over it. That's why I was saying that you shouldn't use that word. And yes, there are plenty of fucked up things in our society. It is far from perfect, there are obvious flaws and it can affect the things that you've said to a certain degree. However, I'm still not buying this theory. I see that the focus has changed from "it's all luck" to "it's all society's fault" and the connection between the two is apparently that the latter determines the former which is simply incorrect as explained in my first paragraph. This is the first time I hear about the Middle East having this problem to be honest. As for America - no. Women aren't afraid of men, at least most of them aren't. In fact nowadays women are a lot "less afraid of men" than they were a century ago and society has still made it that far so you cannot really use this as an excuse. Also I've never heard of a nearly 100% hetero girl forcing herself to have sex with other women because she is too afraid of the opposite sex. Which brings us to the solution that you proposed - paying a girl to have sex with you which is a pretty desperate one but since it is almost a hundred percent guaranteed that you'll get what you want without many risks or any courage required I kinda get why you chose it over some more rational ones. "The only way to eliminate inceled men's anger is to give them the affection they so desperately crave" No, this would be an awful solution. First of all if you want something you should work for it until you truly deserve it. A society that gives things for free to people to "eliminate their anger" isn't a society that is going to survive for too long. Also women are actual people who have free will and human rights so you can't really "distribute" them to the members of the incel community just so they can shut up. Not even the biggest american socialist would ever think of something as irrational as that. Even in communist countries like North Korea that is rarely the case and the country in general isn't a good example of an utopian society to look up to. So if America had legal prostitution for $150-200 an hour, sex robots, matchmaking parties with even gender ratios for the explicit purpose of finding a dating partner, matchmaking agencies that find you a partner, an app that plans out and puts you on blind dates instead of this Tinder bullshit, more of an expectation for friends, family, and the community to set their friends up with opposite sex partners, and people participating in all these things that we wouldn't all have a much easier time finding sexual satisfaction? Funny how both you and SadMadoka just assumed I was advocating for some kind of sexual slavery or something. Instead we have a society that thinks getting laid is 100% your responsibility. That everyone should get girls independently. You don't get any help from anyone when it comes to this. Bitch please, you don't even live in the US how would you know if girls are scared of guys here or not? Gender relations here are in the fucking trash. There's a reason why incels, MGTOW, and the red pill all popped up in the past ten years. Yes, its better to allow people's rage to fester out of control, resulting in high suicide rates, the highest rates of depression and anxiety ever seen, an ever increasing mass shooting problem, a rampant issue with sexual assault and an equally large problem of false accusations towards innocent men, then it is to help lonely guys get some pussy? Anything is better than letting those incels have some sex? If people don't deserve sex unless they work adequately for it, then buddy, you're fucked... 149597871 said: even for someone who is below the average level of attractiveness it should be fairly easy to get laid. You never had to work for sex 12354334. You have it too easy and clearly don't deserve it, we're gonna strip you of your ability to get laid and all your memories of the sex you've had, start you again as a 13 year old, and until you get an incel laid, you will never have sex even if it takes you many years. Sounds like a fair deal to me given how much hedonistic pleasure you've so easily indulged in over the years without working for it. Oh it doesn't sound so nice when you might have to go through it does it? The vast majority of incels have worked 100 times harder and deserve it way more than you do. You can't even comprehend the idea of having to approach 100 girls without easily getting sex from them. You think its outlandish and refuse to believe that that could be anyone's reality. What the hell makes somebody who's had it as easy as you do think he has the right to say that other people don't deserve what he's been handed on a silver platter? Upon the reasoning that people shouldn't get sex on a silver platter? How about you try putting yourself out there and get rejected by 1,000 different women and then have everybody tell you that you don't deserve to be happy because you didn't try hard enough? That's a long rant and I pretty much believe that there are similar things to a sex robot in America as well as ways of getting a "blind date" (not that you should!). I can't get you a girlfriend for you because I have no control over a girl's will or desires so I can't force her to have sex with you or be your girlfriend no matter how anti-social you try to behave. I can give you an advice on what I consider to work but it is pointless if you don't listen to me and assume things that aren't based on any good reason. What you are talking about is close to an arranged marriage. If the US is so cruel to you can try living in a country where it is a thing, there are also countries where prostitution is legal. If you are so determined that this the only way to get laid go for it. If you truly work 100 times harder than the average person it shouldn't be much of a problem. |
149597871Sep 3, 2019 1:45 AM
149597871 said: Ryuk9428 said: So if America had legal prostitution for $150-200 an hour, sex robots, matchmaking parties with even gender ratios for the explicit purpose of finding a dating partner, matchmaking agencies that find you a partner, an app that plans out and puts you on blind dates instead of this Tinder bullshit, more of an expectation for friends, family, and the community to set their friends up with opposite sex partners, and people participating in all these things that we wouldn't all have a much easier time finding sexual satisfaction? Funny how both you and SadMadoka just assumed I was advocating for some kind of sexual slavery or something. Instead we have a society that thinks getting laid is 100% your responsibility. That everyone should get girls independently. You don't get any help from anyone when it comes to this. Bitch please, you don't even live in the US how would you know if girls are scared of guys here or not? Gender relations here are in the fucking trash. There's a reason why incels, MGTOW, and the red pill all popped up in the past ten years. Yes, its better to allow people's rage to fester out of control, resulting in high suicide rates, the highest rates of depression and anxiety ever seen, an ever increasing mass shooting problem, a rampant issue with sexual assault and an equally large problem of false accusations towards innocent men, then it is to help lonely guys get some pussy? Anything is better than letting those incels have some sex? If people don't deserve sex unless they work adequately for it, then buddy, you're fucked... You never had to work for sex 12354334. You have it too easy and clearly don't deserve it, we're gonna strip you of your ability to get laid and all your memories of the sex you've had, start you again as a 13 year old, and until you get an incel laid, you will never have sex even if it takes you many years. Sounds like a fair deal to me given how much hedonistic pleasure you've so easily indulged in over the years without working for it. Oh it doesn't sound so nice when you might have to go through it does it? The vast majority of incels have worked 100 times harder and deserve it way more than you do. You can't even comprehend the idea of having to approach 100 girls without easily getting sex from them. You think its outlandish and refuse to believe that that could be anyone's reality. What the hell makes somebody who's had it as easy as you do think he has the right to say that other people don't deserve what he's been handed on a silver platter? Upon the reasoning that people shouldn't get sex on a silver platter? How about you try putting yourself out there and get rejected by 1,000 different women and then have everybody tell you that you don't deserve to be happy because you didn't try hard enough? That's a long rant and I pretty much believe that there are similar things to a sex robot in America as well as ways of getting a "blind date" (not that you should!). I can't get you a girlfriend for you because I have no control over a girl's will or desires so I can't force her to have sex with you or be your girlfriend no matter how anti-social you try to behave. I can give you an advice on what I consider to work but it is pointless if you don't listen to me and assume things that aren't based on any good reason. What you are talking about is close to an arranged marriage. If the US is so cruel to you can try living in a country where it is a thing, there are also countries where prostitution is legal. If you are so determined that this the only way to get laid go for it. If you truly work 100 times harder than the average person it shouldn't be much of a problem. Yes there's a concept of blind dates but no guy ever does it. Never been setup on a blind date, ever. I've asked my more successful friends to do it before too and they still don't. You don't need to possess her and make her Fuck me. 75% of the battle is just getting through the front door and being seen as a potential dating partner to begin with. That's easily the most difficult part. By being setup on a date and having the girl already acknowledge you as a date, 75% of the trouble zone has been bypassed. I actually like the idea of arranged marriages. I wish we could bring them back. My parents know what I like, I'd completely trust them to find a good wife for me. Prostitution provides a safety net so that you never go too long without getting laid. The purpose of prostitution is to use as a stepping stone. You will put out the vibe of someone who has sex which significantly increases your odds. Prostitution is too expensive to use as a complete substitute though. The US isn't "cruel" we just have a tendency to ignore problems until they get really out of control. |
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Ryuk9428 said: My parents know what I like, I'd completely trust them to find a good wife for me Whatever, if everyone's fine with it. A lot of people may regret it later though. Ryuk9428 said: Prostitution is too expensive to use as a complete substitute though. Well, yea, nobody is going to do sex work for 12$ per hour. I do believe that there are other reasons why it can't fully substitute a normal relationship but whatever. I prefer not going in detail on this topic. Ryuk9428 said: You don't need to possess her and make her Fuck me. 75% of the battle is just getting through the front door and being seen as a potential dating partner to begin with. That's easily the most difficult part. By being setup on a date and having the girl already acknowledge you as a date, 75% of the trouble zone has been bypassed. She'll still want to know at least something about you before considering you "a potential dating partner", at least most girls would, else it is just a blind date which as you said is something that most people avoid. You know, maybe it will be fair to show her your MAL comments including this thread and ask her what she thinks. If she's still interested you can date as much as you want, I don't mind. I don't think that neither luck nor society are involved much here either. There aren't any pictures of you and nobody knows whether you are rich or poor so it's a pretty good offer. In fact I'm also sending this offer to all women on MAL that might be reading this although probably a very few users are following this conversation. |
149597871Sep 3, 2019 11:10 PM
| Several notes by my part... The subject of Incels does indeed fascinate me....mostly because I believe that IF Incels were a thing back when I was in my early 20s....I probably would've identified as one of them. I think too many guys have this distortion of reality....and the Internet plays a HUGE part on it. Many of them start to literally believe the ridiculous memes, they start to think "Chads" are a real thing and that based on SOLELY your looks you either will get pussy or you won't! It's obviously a ridiculous notion. The other thing is that MANY of these guys HATE women....they think women are to blame for all their problems. "Why won't women give me a chance? They're all fucking sluts and bitches and disgusting Whores!" I've literally seen comments like this...they answered their own question, and it has nothing to do with their looks. |
149597871 said: Ryuk9428 said: My parents know what I like, I'd completely trust them to find a good wife for me Whatever, if everyone's fine with it. A lot of people may regret it later though. Ryuk9428 said: Prostitution is too expensive to use as a complete substitute though. Well, yea, nobody is going to do sex work for 12$ per hour. I do believe that there are other reasons why it can't fully substitute a normal relationship but whatever. I prefer not going in detail on this topic. Ryuk9428 said: You don't need to possess her and make her Fuck me. 75% of the battle is just getting through the front door and being seen as a potential dating partner to begin with. That's easily the most difficult part. By being setup on a date and having the girl already acknowledge you as a date, 75% of the trouble zone has been bypassed. She'll still want to know at least something about you before considering you "a potential dating partner", at least most girls would, else it is just a blind date which as you said is something that most people avoid. You know, maybe it will be fair to show her your MAL comments including this thread and ask her what she thinks. If she's still interested you can date as much as you want, I don't mind. I don't think that neither luck nor society are involved much here either. There aren't any pictures of you and nobody knows whether you are rich or poor so it's a pretty good offer. In fact I'm also sending this offer to all women on MAL that might be reading this although probably a very few users are following this conversation. Fine by me, I don't mind them knowing something about me. I never expected to find a wife on MAL so that's a moot point. |
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