A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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| >It's the exact same role, that's not true at all. With so much context and infodumping missing, no they arent. >Also, people have joked about her Ahegao face since it appeared on screen, you sure nobody remembers her? Rememberingher about an ahegao face, not for protetcing everyone,being an artficial angel etc.See why this is bad? >THat's how Vento planned on using it, but the Pope wasn't so sure. And he still complied. >For you, yes. For other people, it is. Seems like those people arent looking for the same things most LN readers are looking for. |
| > you really can't sit here and say it's the anime's fault Kazakiri is forgotten. And yet your example was her ahegao... >He didn't really have much choice, Vento as you can see now just does whatever she wants anyways. So he can go against Fiamma but he cant even say no, without ill intent, to Vento? Yeah.... >you do know characters like Frenda became popular just because she was cute in the LN yes? LN Fenda is popular because of her sudden death. Manga Frenda is popular because of her chemistry with rest of Item and Saten. And so sorry if I dont like"fans" that like a character because they are cute.I hate Silent Party arc for that reason.All cute no substance or consistency with the rest of the series. If they are in any franchise with rich world building for some cute characters then it is their problem. Also if you think that it is fanservice that draws them in then dont act an elitist like "Oh it is their fault they dont remember" since clearly they are here for the cute waifus and the edgy boi Accel.You arent really in any position to criticize them. |
| Jesus christ just how many characters are in this? Lets just rename this anime to a Certain Magical Hamazura, it would make more sense |
| Damn this ending was pretty intense! And what a buildup, really amazed by how the whole thing turned out and to be honest they better make a fourth season with such an ending! This season was quite nice I mist say, I really enjoyed the more to the point episodes and then the few originally more comedy/slice of life like episodes. The beginning where Accelerator turned into an angel was really amazing and well I really do hope we'll see a follow up soon and not in another 10 years or so :p |
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| There it goes... Touma punches Fiamma. The end. Sometimes I feel like this universe over-exaggerates its characters' powers and speed lol. Oh I forgot... Fiamma's also now a friend despite... you know... creating WW3 lol Why did they even bother putting Biribiri in this arc or in the whole damn series lol. Give us Railgun 3 already So... what's up with muting Touma's voice in the supposed big reveal? We already know he lost his memories lol. It's not like it's gonna make any difference tf Oh, Touma also punches Gabriel. The end. Eyyy... new "enemy" appears and Hamazura disposes of them immediately lol. In the end, not even Accelerator could save this shitshow  Good riddance. I didn't even like the last 2 seasons that much but this season just hit a new low  If JC Staff fucks up Railgun 3.............. istg |
Dull_LullJul 16, 2019 6:06 AM
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| I'll never understand why people are so up their own arses with anime. I've just binge watched all of Index for the first time and while I feel like they rushed this season a bit it's still very good and very enjoyable. You all need to chill. I'm looking forward to a potential New Testament adaption. |
Dull_Lull said: There it goes... Touma punches Fiamma. The end. Sometimes I feel like this universe over-exaggerates its characters' powers and speed lol. Oh I forgot... Fiamma's also now a friend despite... you know... creating WW3 lol Why did they even bother putting Biribiri in this arc or in the whole damn series lol. Give us Railgun 3 already So... what's up with muting Touma's voice in the supposed big reveal? We already know he lost his memories lol. It's not like it's gonna make any difference tf Oh, Touma also punches Gabriel. The end. Eyyy... new "enemy" appears and Hamazura disposes of them immediately lol. In the end, not even Accelerator could save this shitshow Good riddance. I didn't even like the last 2 seasons that much but this season just hit a new low If JC Staff fucks up Railgun 3.............. istg you might as well stop now if you didnt like it. have you read the light novels? |
| Fire Emblem anime when |
| So Crowley goes there physically or just a projection? |
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| I don't care if I didn't have the hell idea what was happening in Toaru Majutsu no Index III that moment between Last Order and Accelerator was beautiful. |
| I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something. People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English. |
| Stupid episode, none of it makes any sense... |
| First of all, what's with the shitty animation. Secondly, I literally hate Touma at this point because of his whining about bad luck (which apparently isn't the case) and his hypocritical dialogues that never seem to end. Accelerator was the best character for me for the whole series, but seriously, what has become of him, damn it. All that angel thing and just so that he could show some rainbow crucifix for 2 seconds. That's bullshit. And, literally, throughout the whole series, all I wished for was the villians to punch Touma in his face and come out victorious. That's the level of how much crap is fitted in that protagonist. As always, this particular series never seems to not disappoint me, specially with the protagonist. Hamazura is far better than Touma, for "literally" being level 0 "without" any powers. Atleast his actions are logically calculated. Railgun and Accelerator's routes are far better. |
Shizokami2Apr 11, 2020 9:15 AM
| Rem is best girl |
Shizokami said: First of all, what's with the shitty animation. Secondly, I literally hate Touma at this point because of his whining about bad luck (which apparently isn't the case) and his hypocritical dialogues that never seem to end. Accelerator was the best character for me for the whole series, but seriously, what has become of him, damn it. All that angel thing and just so that he could show some rainbow crucifix for 2 seconds. That's bullshit. And, literally, throughout the whole series, all I wished for was the villians to punch Touma in his face and come out victorious. That's the level of how much crap is fitted in that protagonist. As always, this particular series never seems to not disappoint me, specially with the protagonist. Hamazura is far better than Touma, for "literally" being level 0 "without" any powers. Atleast his actions are logically calculated. Railgun and Accelerator's routes are far better. to correct you only the anime makes touma seem like that. touma is a master battle tactician. in the novels. almost all his actions are thought out both before hand and during the battle. sadly the anime cut out almost all of his inner monologues. also again anime didn't explain fiamma's actual power, but with the power he had he was near magic god territory and could have reshaped/ destroyed the world 10 times over. accelrorator still has that power even after that he keeps it and gets stronger in NT (but he can't use magic and he never will hes an esper and they can't use magic without there blood vessels bursting. also yes touma has bad luck. he was called a god of pestelince in his home town for a reason. the fact that he is almost daily caught up in life or death situations. almost all his acquaintances are nearly killed daily. i love how people some how forget that all these events aren't spanning over months and weeks, but are day to day occurrences. "First of all, what's with the shitty animation. " it's almost like condensing 9 300+ page volumes into 26 episodes leads to shoddy animations and plots that make no sense because they lack all the contextual detail. "for "literally" being level 0 "without" any powers." i'm surprised you haven't realized that touma an ordinary high schooler was a joke by the author yet. >Accelerator was the best character for me for the whole series, who's ironically one of the most hypocritical in the series honestly touma anime is a butchered mess of a character who only steals quotes form novel touma which make more sense to them as a character. it's explained in NT volume 19 DivineLion said: damn this thread is full of salt. i am kinda dissapointed but ill wait until NT gets adapted. the animation better be on par with Railgun S honestly i wouldn't get your hopes up JC staff corpate side already demonstrated that they care little for faithful adaptation of this series and just want a slice of the money that the novels have been making. which is why they forced this rush messed because they saw how much money NT was making and wanted some of that as well. Even the novel author criticized them over how they handled this season. |
GrimAtramentApr 11, 2020 10:03 AM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| I love Accelerator! His relationship with Last Order is so dramatic. 😭 |
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hazarddex said: Even the novel author criticized them over how they handled this season. Wait, did Kamachi really criticized Nishikiori and the staffs? I thought that one was a propaganda made by some Chinese fans? |
| I watched all 26 episodes and I still have no idea what the plot is lol. The problem is that they're trying to tell 3 different stories at same time and in doing so, they ended up half assing all 3 of them. The only parts done well were the Hamazura, Takitsubo, and Mugino parts since they were the only interesting characters imo. |
| MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10. |
| Highlight was Accelerator and Last Order. The entire season itself though, a huge letdown. So many characters popping up that we have barely or no knowledge of, conflicts are half assed, we literally get shown 2 minutes of a conflict before we move on to the next scene feeling like we've skipped 5 to 10 minutes. You're just trying to make sense of the story but the season doesnt let you, it just goes on and on not explaining anything properly, shoving more characters in our face, rushing fights ... That said, I did see the potential, it was definitely there, we got a glimpse of it with Mugino for exampe or even Touma himself but that's all it was, potential. 6/10 *Apparently the staff tried to get more episodes since they knew they couldn't finish it in 1 season but that was declined. You can even see how they tried to make most of what they got by skipping the OP / ED's etc. Comes back to what I said, the potential ... :( |
PrOxAntoMay 4, 2020 2:22 PM
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| All of the people here blaming JC Staff. But the one who really needs to put the blame on it is Kadokawa. Fuck kadokawa |
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| It wasnt great but im not sure its totally unwatchable im not sure why people are giving it a 3? The Royal family arc was so fucking boring felt like an absolute chore to get through. Battle royal arc was rushed and disappointing but its still watchable and probably the highlight arc they did for mine |
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| This might have been an awful adaption (what happens when you make 36+ episodes of story into 26) but the second half or basically everything since episode 9 has been pretty enjoyable. This episode felt fitting for a final episode of the season, or really of the first series of the novels/anime. Guess i better read NT though now and hope for an anime adaption at some point too. Apparently the anime spoiled something from NT2 which seems a bit odd, since was rather uncertain if Touma actually survived in v22. Would have been odd if they killed him though. Guess they just wanted to leave a cliffhanger, and given that Railgun T is selling well it looks like NT is getting animated anyway. I think Battle Royale really got shafted this season, the only arc that really felt like a below passing grade adaption, and the British Royal Family arc got pretty abridged since it got the least episodes/novels of any arc this season. DRAGON was pretty rushed but they kept the key scenes intact and it felt ok. WW3 really should have been a full cour, but other than some stuff at the start and shortening Touma vs Fiamma, the pacing was mostly OK. Hopefully S4 gets enough episodes, otherwise this season was still as enjoyable as other seasons and probably an ok ending-point for anime-onlies. |
| Objectivity? In my anime scoring? Of course not... |
| Had to put in my two cents after being what you'd call a hater of the Index series... I actually found this season enjoyable. Not great, but enjoyable. I consider this anime the modern successor to Bleach: You don't watch it because of the boring, lackluster protagonist and his overidealistic speeches, but for all the insane, interesting side characters (FYI, love Railgun much more than Index... Surprise there...). The difference that makes this world succeed instead of sink like Bleach's? The main series learned to embrace its side stories to keep its fans sated until the next rushed, chaotic, info-dumping main story segment comes out again (Referring to a Certain Scientific Railgun and Accelerator as the side stories). I will watch season 4 of Index just so I can see Accelerator, Misaka, and super normal-man (Hamazura) again, and holding my breath for the third side story anime: A Certain Scientific Zero (jking, but would watch). A 6 out of 10 that would have been a 4 if not for Accelerator and Hamazura (Accelerator vs Worst is currently one of my favorite scenes in any anime, but I like edgy, emotional crap). BTW, I never read the Light Novels so have no idea how this sux compared to them :P. And I've heard no one talk about the reveal of the potential 8th level 5: Hamazura's Waifu. No one else cares about this reveal *Crickets chirping* Nobody? |
| Did they just turn Accelerator into an angel? Only from him to do... pretty much nothing? This season was so damn confusing and made no sense on so many levels. At least Touma stayed the same shit protagonist as he was in the first two seasons. Though the first ones actually made sense somehow while this was just a clusterfuck of pointless characters switching sides once a day. 2/10 |
Gator said: Did they just turn Accelerator into an angel? Only from him to do... pretty much nothing? This season was so damn confusing and made no sense on so many levels. At least Touma stayed the same shit protagonist as he was in the first two seasons. Though the first ones actually made sense somehow while this was just a clusterfuck of pointless characters switching sides once a day. 2/10 Accelerator grew white wings out of his black ones and a halo after switching his mentality of violence switched to protection. The golden like energy in the sky (that was connected to heaven) who's name is Telesma, was going to pour down and cause a disaster, Accelerator went to redirect that mass of Telesma back to heaven knocking him out in the process (this happens offscreen as well in the novels). Later AC forces take him back to the city but he brings an ultimatum about chasing down any dark side organization that doesn't ceases their activities, whatever happens about that ultimatum is explored on New Testament. |
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Mistress_Misaki said: Gator said: Did they just turn Accelerator into an angel? Only from him to do... pretty much nothing? This season was so damn confusing and made no sense on so many levels. At least Touma stayed the same shit protagonist as he was in the first two seasons. Though the first ones actually made sense somehow while this was just a clusterfuck of pointless characters switching sides once a day. 2/10 Accelerator grew white wings out of his black ones and a halo after switching his mentality of violence switched to protection. The golden like energy in the sky (that was connected to heaven) who's name is Telesma, was going to pour down and cause a disaster, Accelerator went to redirect that mass of Telesma back to heaven knocking him out in the process (this happens offscreen as well in the novels). Later AC forces take him back to the city but he brings an ultimatum about chasing down any dark side organization that doesn't ceases their activities, whatever happens about that ultimatum is explored on New Testament. Oh I see, thanks for the explanation. Seems kinda weird to offscreen an important detail like that, but if they did that in the novels as well I guess I can't blame it on the adaption. |
| Heh, this does give me Tokyo Ghoul RE: 2nd season vibes, though maybe not as disjointed and confusing. As an anime only, the story and setting wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. I dunno, it had it's poor moments, but I just love the characters and the Raildex world too much, 6/10. |
| Accelerator. Last Order. WTF! Accerlator has become an Angel? Dat light. Carissa. Itsuwa oppai. Where's Kanzaki oppai? SONO GENSOU WO BUCHIKOROSU! DAT PUNCH! Touma puts Fiamma in the last pod. Biri-Biri appears before Touma. Index. Touma tells Index the truth. Index is awake. Misha is back. Touma punches Misha. Shiage is surrounded. They want Rikou. They got sprayed. Accelerator is captured. Now freed. Fiamma. OH SHIT!!! His arm! And that was the end. I waited so damn long for Index III and can I say it delivered? It was pretty damn good. I feel Index II was better as an anime, but story in III was definitely bigger, obviously. There better be Index IV. I'm disappointed at the lack of screentime my waifu Itsuwa got in the final episodes compared to earlier in the season. She better return immediately in the following arcs. With that said, I'll miss her and my other waifu's. Finally, Maon slayed the OP songs as I expected and she proved to be a worthy successor to Mami. GRAVITATION was a banger. Then she went even further beyond with ROAR. I love it when I'm right. With that said... SONO GENSOU WO BUCHIKOROSU! |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| So that Leivinia Birdway will join the harem on season 4 or an other movie 🤔 Sadly there might be no 4th season since this one was...well hard to explain , i didnt read the LN , i never do , so i couldnt understand most things , but with to aru series its always like that , but they have to explain things like how accelerator after joining that light ended in a car , then just free himself that easely Its not an anime for story fans , since the story got cut everywhere , its not a anime for fanservice fans since there was many possibilities that got skiped , its not an anime for fight fans since most fight are short and hard to understand , hard to tell if theres a 4th season or not But that Leivinia definitly worth it and hype me a lot 🤤 |
Loli world is just a cute world full of cute meat |
 Misaka Worst best girl |
| I was about to say that was a good finale ep but then they ruined the "o no Touma is deded" moment and reveal he got rescued When I first watched this in 2019 when it's still airing I got confused by the complex story (and the abundance of side characters) not portrayed properly so I gave it a 6/10, I now sadly have to give this season a 4/10 after reading the LNs and realizing how much of a shitfest this was. The Battle Royale arc and British arc were badly affected by pacing problems, the others are just ok well now time to finally start reading up New Testament |
| Yeah, I'd agree with Aleister.. Indeed some last talks of our green peace guy seemed like he tried to explain everything only in some narrow terms.. And Aleister calls it Christianity views, hm.. Touma is indeed lucky guy, fukuoda is a lie.. ;P Half-joking, of course.. As story can be written in whatever way.. But also how much lucky stuff happened with Touma?.. A lot, for sure.. Overall, season was nice.. I actually expected it'd be poor.. Well, both for how edgy was Accelerator towards the end of season 2, as well as I heard that adaptation of season 3 is a mess.. I think that this series are more or less understandable, really.. Characters have their motivations, lots of grey characters.. And also just Index remains series it has been before, it personally feels to me.. Familiar comedy, familiar lots of things happening at the same time.. This season had some less enjoyable episodes, especially towards the first half, and Frenda's death is just wasting her potential as an interesting character, it feels.. But also we got lots of screen time for Amakusa, Right Throne of the God members, Aqua especially, remaining members of Item group, characters, who rose from UK revolution arc, and many other characters.. Index series is series with lots and lots of characters.. And some did get their time.. They felt like the characters they were, the old characters I liked.. And I liked some of the new characters too, especially Aqua and UK girls.. Wish we'll have more of our girl Index in the future, as well as more slice of life in general.. World is going to shit in Index in many aspects, but also seeing some more of the bright side of the world would be nice as well.. Overall, will wait for more.. |
| After procrastinating for so many years saying I would get on this even though my backlog goes back to 2017, my biggest complaint is I can't remember half of these characters due to Index III being made 8 years later from Index II...as if I would remember everyone from Index I too. The only real concerns I had were "Is Touma and Accelerator finally going to duke it out and shake off their plot repellant" and is Misaka also going to have a fight scene in with Touma and the answers were yes and no. Half the time I was thinking to myself "I don't get why they're fighting over here," "Index IV ain't going to happen if the pacing is this bad," "I love wartime themes, but this show shouldn't be one of them," "Why does Accelerator have so much screen time compared to Misaka? If you try to compare the 2 spinoff heroes in Index, it's like Accelerator never had a spinoff at all, and they just casted off Misaka as trash." I really enjoy the series but out of Index I, II and III, I think III was the worst. I think they should just remake the whole series to have the story be more fluid and with better animators to set the mood (really liked Index I's animators but Index II and III's animation really looked bad.) |
| Ok, nice ending but... it ends this way? I mean... I have a feeling there'd be more. |
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| An ok ending to a badly rushed season. The hints at the end really make me want to see New Testament animated one day. |
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| If misaka is not in danger, touma doesn't give a s*** ☹ |
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| 2nd half was really bad and confusing. I enjoyed the first half but it just goes down the trash bin as I watch the next episodes. The ending also is hinting for season 4 which is I am not excited for |
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| I can't speak on how truly good or bad this series is from the novels, but I can say that the director of the anime did a horrendous job. 3/10. It's so bad that I couldn't tolerate not skimming through most of this final season to only skip to some of the fights and dramatic moments because I've come to not care about the characters or the war anymore from how poorly presented and boring it all is. I think many fans can or already have elaborated on why this series/anime is genuinely bad. Unlike Railgun, this anime fails in several ways. The common trope of; idiotic abuse/fan-service, forced bad harem and mediocre action is almost unbearable. From losing investment in the story, I don't know how sophisticated or not the story is in having churches and science fighting for power is, but I can tell that some of the villain's seem fairly good in how complicated they are, even if they're not great. I don't know how relevant or meaningful some of the lower villains or moments of conflict were, but it is interesting how most of the goal for masterful power revolves a lot around the Sisters. Unfortunately, the flow of the story is incredibly dull. Dislikeable main characters, monotonous dialogue, stupid tropes, uminagitive mediocre battles kill the quality of a potentially good story from the novels that I'm unaware of. Most of the fights have glaring flaws in continuity, logic, realism, unrealistic survival, and overall bad choreography visually and in the fighting itself. Villains turned Allies may be interesting, but most of the characters aren't great. Touma's an untrained brawler with a powerful right hand who is durable with fortunate dodging ability. In the novels it seems from his inner thoughts and backstory there's a reason to his character, but in the anime, regardless, it comes off as just an aggressive moral enthusiast who's selfless in saving anyone. The harem is idiotic and has no real genuinely good substance for how cheap it is. Index is utterly obnoxious as the constant hungry jealous glutton who bites Touma, and is mostly useless unless she can redirect magic. She's only entertaining when she's being possessed and can use the magic of the grimoire. Accelerator is an immature wannabe-villain who remains distasteful, but his complexity may have been interesting if it weren't poorly portrayed in how nonchalant to murder he seemed until the reveal of it being an actual trauma. I think him becoming an Angel is bullshit. Last Order's mentality is difficult to ever accept from how unreasonable it kinda is. I never liked it, or their relationship. It failed to explain itself in the anime. Worse is how the Sisters and several other things in the story from other characters and their own issues is never mentioned or fully concluded. Misaka is great in her spin-off, but in Index she's forced as a aggressive tsundere who usually gets mad even though the adaption or her anime is truly great unlike this. Some of the magic and esper abilities with some of the characters have cool substance to them, but it doesn't matter in the end from how bad the series is. In the end, for skimming through this season too much, I'm not even sure who the new characters are or what's left of the story with their setups, but the anime was so bad, that I don't care anymore, and am only willing to quickly read through an article or watch a video about it. I'm not surprised it never got a continuation, I guess. Especially with that horrible director. |
waalex11Sep 4, 2022 2:24 AM
| MAAAAAN this season was such doo doo. Rushed beyond belief without explaining a thing with new characters just popping up, skipping a long scene after scene leaving things disjointed. Understand about a quarter of what was happening only by just assuming cause everything is only implied, and done off screen with no explanation. I enjoyed the past installments but this was the worst |
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