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May 13, 2018 12:38 PM

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Katojana said:
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I may be a little biased coming from a historically disadvantaged group from a country that has notoriously bad racial relations but I would like some links to these issues. They sound painfully familiar to what a few people with very dubious ideas of race have said in recent years. What with birth rates, Shari'a law supposedly being passed in the midwest, etc. I will be honest; I seriously doubt the severity everything you said regarding muslims and that last bit about welfare is usually found in the mouthes of of our most extreme political groups. But since I have no ties to Europeans apart from my country being a former colony of the British empire (Us) I will cede the floor and review what you're saying. If you will please send me some data regarding these issues.

Also I.mentioned ethnicity and not simply to avoid the misunderstanding. Since wr know Islam is a religion and not a racial group.


Okay here's the deal. I'm from germany, one of the countries hit the hardest with the refugee crisis of 2015-2017
Did problems arise? Yes. Quite a lot actually. BUT it has nothing to do with only one ethnicity.
Comparedly there have been more crimes by people who are against refugees than the refugees themselves (attacks against refugees, burning down Refugee centers etc).
There is a gigantic fearmongering by groups and political parties (
Identitarian movement, AfD in germany, FPÖ in austria, literal Nazis going through the streets) which overblows the whole issue. Are there criminal refugees (besides some illegal habitations)? Yes of course. But there are criminals everywhere.
It didnt get unsafer and there is NO sharia law even close to being legislated...
That's just the fearmongering by interestgroups. The problem is, you cant argue against feelings with facts.
"The facts state that the crime rates even lowered over the past years"
"Yes but I feel unsafer"
"Well but the chart says..."
"Muh feelings"

And in times of fake news, its very easy to find articles and stuff that are completely fake but are believed anyways.
I figured as much I was pretty convinced I was reading bs a few posts back but I didn't want give ammo by pointing to inaccurate sources or thoughts. We have the same issue here in the US particularly with Latinos (Mexicans) and no this issue was here long before trump ran for president. That with thr police shootings and uptick in hate crimes really pulled the veil off of some people (read white people who actually think racism is in the past). Strange I feel a type of global resurgence of (white) nationalism in my bones. Just beneath the surface.

I don't mean to call anyone out but I suspect a big part of the concern of women and feminism is the impact it has on the growth of the majority vs everyone else. Latinos Are the largest group aside from whites and blacks are the largest racial minority. Of course the solution is to dump the racism and accept a multiracial drmocracy and be something beyond your skin color but people never listen.
May 13, 2018 12:41 PM
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Quite the eventful episode. Nice to see those blue horns confirmed and Kokoro and Mitsuru progress their relationship.


MahadoKusanagi said:
Holy crap, this bullshit about "Kokoro is a bitch, Kokoro broke a promise" is still going on. Damn, i was right to have my popcorn on standby, this is getting hilariously more ridiculous the longer it gets. Awesome.


Man I can't even blame Kokoro with how she handled Futoshi since he acts so much like the typical "nice guy".
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May 13, 2018 12:45 PM

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Actually so glad that Mitsuru realised that fast " due to hiro " that he like kokoro , only few episode left , we needed things to escalated quickly... Now for all salty people concerning futoshi heh , he loved her first , yes ? Then what ? She never said she'd mary him or anything , she said that she was happy that he wanted to protect her , nothing less , nothing more , she wouldnt force herself to love someone that she actually doesnt lmao..Yeah folks ,that not because u fall in love with someone first , that you own this person... Yeah okay she broke her promise to be with futoshi for ever , but what else can you do beside following ur feeling and the will to be happy ? Nothing , also she just promised that because at this time , he was her partner and nothing else more than " i have to fight the klox with my partner " was in her mind , kokoro has the biggest charact dev' ofc things would have gone this way anyway ..Now concerning zero two and the fact that she said " i cannot have babies " does that mean she think she can't or she actualy have no sexual organs ? Also , now we know that the klox are the real humans , i wonder what our teenagers will do once they discover it , will they fights the klox or the apes?


Sorry terrible englando
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May 13, 2018 1:03 PM

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WordIsBond said:
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I’m a defender of this show and even i will admit this “let’s have sex let’s make babies” thing is very random.


She found the book about making babies way back during the beach episode. This has been foreshadowed.

She just didn't want her baby to be fat, nothing wrong with that.


Hmmm being fat is not a gene , its not because your two parents are fat that u'll be fat aswell lmao







May 13, 2018 1:43 PM
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Great episode...
It had great character development and had built the mystery around the Klaxosaurs too.

My guess is that Papa and the rest are aliens as he said, "their earth," and the original humans created the Klaxosaurs to battle these aliens....
May 13, 2018 2:10 PM

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RobertBobert said:
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I think its more of a rise of sexuality versus androgynous asexual anti-utopia more than anything else, but we can now safely call Dr. FranXX's experiment a gender instrumentality project.


Yes, I never thought that gender studies can be turned into such an exciting mecha anime :D

Anime is certainly magical in that way, is it not?
May 13, 2018 2:16 PM
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AnthonyTLA said:
Are you the type to hold a grudge over a broken promise like Mitsuru?

Hold a grudge? No. I can forgive, which I do, but I admit I do not forget (I have a really good memory, unfortunately).

AnthonyTLA said:
Breaking one promise doesn't make you a thot or a bitch. Do you believe that every couple who gets a divorce are bad people because they are breakng the promises in their wedding vows?

I believe that people who lie and break promises to their respective husbands/wives are indeed bitches and thots. If the divorce comes because one of the accountances cheats or lies, yes, obviously. If they divorce because they "no longer love each other", have had a proper discussion, have talked about it without telling lies in the process and reached the common conclusion they need to separate, no, they aren't.

You can divorce on good terms or on bad terms.

AnthonyTLA said:
I already explained how she was pressured into accepting that promise. Why would she risk both of their lives during a mission by telling him that she doesn't want to be his partner?

"Pressured". She could have put it on hold. She could have talked about it (like she did with Mitsuru in the very first fight). We're talking about consequences in their "job"...

AnthonyTLA said:
Would you keep a promise that you made with a gun to your head? When, she made that promise, she thought she was stuck with Futoshi and didn't have the option to change so she had no reason to reject that promise.

So it's okay that just after she gets a reason to break it, she actually does it without even talking about it?

AnthonyTLA said:
I have had people break promises to me but that doesn't mean that they are bad people if you examine the context behind it and if the person acknowledges their mistake. If Kokoro is a THOT for breaking a promise isn't Hiro also a THOT? Also, Kokoro did apologize.

When did she apologize? That "Sorry" right after asking for a switch where she couldn't even stare at him? Please. She doesn't think she's made a mistake -that's why she admits she's not as nice as others think she is-.
Also, Hiro's promise was broken for major reasons (him having his memory erased).

ACasualBlackDude said:
Hmmm being fat is not a gene , its not because your two parents are fat that u'll be fat aswell lmao

Actually, I read some time ago that the way parents disposed of food could affect your metabolism genes to some degree.

If your parents suffered some kind of famine or had troubles getting food on the table, your metabolism would work so that it saves more resources, so you'd tend to getting fat easier. Same thing goes on the opposite direction (if your parents could get a dish on the table without problems, your metabolism would be fast and not fill up as many reserves as the opposite case).
May 13, 2018 2:18 PM

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Man Zero Two and Hiro touching Horns was actually pretty fucking adorable.



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When? I don't Remember!


The creator also said we would get more focus on her now..

She loves Ichigo. I felt this for a while. #yuri



TheGrandSage23 said:
Blue Oni Hiro and Mitsuru x Kokoro finally do the deed.. Still feel bad for Futoshi. From Kokoro to his bulimia hes been getting the short end of the stick. I actually expect him to die
el_morris said:
They did it!! Too bad kokoro's son probably won't be born.


See I feel like Futoshi is going to survive. Mitsuru will die, Kokoro will Die during Child Birth and Futoshi takes care of the child. Futoshi basically wins in the end.

Futoshi is kind of a creep too..."My kokoro!" Thats stalker level shit. I do feel bad for the dude though.
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May 13, 2018 2:29 PM

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I have a bad feeling that Mitsuru and Kokoro are going to die.

Is the Dr. FranXX trying to restore civilization back to the way it once was? Is that what his little experiment is about?

Things aren't looking well for Nana. Looks like she's either had her memories wiped, or something else.
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Naudri said:
AnthonyTLA said:
Are you the type to hold a grudge over a broken promise like Mitsuru?

Hold a grudge? No. I can forgive, which I do, but I admit I do not forget (I have a really good memory, unfortunately).

AnthonyTLA said:
Breaking one promise doesn't make you a thot or a bitch. Do you believe that every couple who gets a divorce are bad people because they are breakng the promises in their wedding vows?

I believe that people who lie and break promises to their respective husbands/wives are indeed bitches and thots. If the divorce comes because one of the accountances cheats or lies, yes, obviously. If they divorce because they "no longer love each other", have had a proper discussion, have talked about it without telling lies in the process and reached the common conclusion they need to separate, no, they aren't.

You can divorce on good terms or on bad terms.

AnthonyTLA said:
I already explained how she was pressured into accepting that promise. Why would she risk both of their lives during a mission by telling him that she doesn't want to be his partner?

"Pressured". She could have put it on hold. She could have talked about it (like she did with Mitsuru in the very first fight). We're talking about consequences in their "job"...

AnthonyTLA said:
Would you keep a promise that you made with a gun to your head? When, she made that promise, she thought she was stuck with Futoshi and didn't have the option to change so she had no reason to reject that promise.

So it's okay that just after she gets a reason to break it, she actually does it without even talking about it?

AnthonyTLA said:
I have had people break promises to me but that doesn't mean that they are bad people if you examine the context behind it and if the person acknowledges their mistake. If Kokoro is a THOT for breaking a promise isn't Hiro also a THOT? Also, Kokoro did apologize.

When did she apologize? That "Sorry" right after asking for a switch where she couldn't even stare at him? Please. She doesn't think she's made a mistake -that's why she admits she's not as nice as others think she is-.
Also, Hiro's promise was broken for major reasons (him having his memory erased).

Some divorce occur because only one side wants out of the relationship. That doesn't mean that the person who instigates the divorce is a bitch. Kokoro failed to communicate properly with Futoshi regarding her feelings and passively agreed to a promise that she didn't want to keep. She wanted to pursue her own happiness but didn't want to face the conflict of rejecting Futoshi to his face. However, labelling an inexperienced child a bitch due the inability to properly navigate these complex issues is ridiculous. She wanted to pursue her own happiness but didn't want to face the conflict of rejecting Futoshi to his face. She didn't handle the situation well, but one mistake someone made as a teenager doesn't define who they are. If someone promised to accept a job but then gets offered a job that will provide them greater financial stability that they thought was previously unattainable, I don't think that person is a bitch. Your expectations for her are ridiculous given her age and the environment she grew up in.

Hiro has remembered his promise for over a month but has never expressed the desire to fulfill it. If breaking one promise means you're a bitch then Hiro, Kokoro, and anyone else who ever broke a promise when they were kids or teenagers are bitches.
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DuskSymphony said:
Am I the only who's thinking Kokoro's decision to have a child is not only stupid but also pretty immoral? Like getting pregnant will put her and by extension the Franxx she pilots with Mitsuru out of commission for several months as I doubt her body would be able to take the strain of piloting while bearing a child. This could end up putting her teammates at a big risk as time goes on.

Going past that, there's still the question of whether or not it's ethical to bring a new life into this world in the first place. What kind of life would await a child they have to leave behind? (probably before it grows too much if the advanced aging theory is correct) Would it have to go through the same training as they have? Would it be consigned to a life of fighting the Klaxosaurs? Chances are having a child before the whole war is cleared up puts them at a big risk of experiencing a life of fear and suffering. Is having a child just out of some desire to "leave something behind" really the right choice?

Kinda reminds me of the recent film A Quiet Place:
ye i wonder what happens/ can she even get pregnant? and if she gets pregnant i dont think she can pilot a franxx when she has a baby inside her thats like the first thing that came into my mind when i saw those scenes
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MiiyoSon said:
Alpenglow said:

Thanks for explaining. English is not my mother tongue so it is difficult for me to elaborate on these types of topics.


No worries man just asking for clarification.

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I think this was the guy who also said anime was a mistake. The idea is how rigid the relationships in anime are. The main girl and boy are always establish and they hardly go past even acknowledging feelings for one another which then are barely romantic but more goofy than anything else. They follow stale patterns reenact worn out tropes and lines that you can finding countless shows and in the same order as the others. Sex seems to be forbidden kissing is a rarity and the "romance" is always framed as "true love" or "love at first sight." Sexually is often framed as impure or perverted and always played for laughs but almost never legitimate curiosity or a valid faucet of human interaction. Even here Mitsuru and Kokoro "love each other", that phrase is pretty much tossed around almost to insulate the deed from criticism.

People are calling Kokoro a whore because she didn't follow the down the beaten down path of sticking with her implied pair. Implied being they work together, not mutual affection, sexual interest or concentrated longing to be with one another, simply because "you're MY girl because the genre or medium (through echoed precedence) says so". People claim Futoshi got "cucked" he was "cheated on" you can't be cheated on without an actual relationship and you can't have a relationship without a mutual understanding said or otherwise. That promise wasn't even romantic, she "promised" to be his partner in occupation not affairs beyond that but even that was an appeasement, a pacifier to prevent hurting her friend (and yes, she considers him a friend) but that's just it he is nothing more than a friend. She has no obligation to engage him romantically just because his feelings towards her were greater than a simple friendship. I feel for dude, I really do but this is life he has to move on. Sadly in this setting there aren't exactly plenty of fish but as for the audience the obsessiveness of Kokoro's "betrayal" is...disturbing.

It speaks to the inability to accept the fluidity of human relationships. This is the one thing that turns me off with Japanese anime. From the romance, to the archetypes to the villains, there's rarely any middle ground or acknowledgment of such. Even when a middle ground or duality of morality is present it is often a straw-man and it is countered by an equally bland ideology or speech. No thought, no consideration or concern of transforming into the thing you battle against.


Not sure how to separate quotes so forgive me.

I will agree with you that anime generally doesn't have the most convincing relationships. That's why I love shows like Rakugo that show these types of complex relationships. To tie it back into Franxx, my problem is that I feel Franxx is not one of those shows because I don't think it goes far enough.

You're absolutely right that Kokoro was not obligated to stay with Futoshi and people who keep harping that he was "betrayed" REEAAALLLLYYYYY need to let that shit go cause first of all no he wasn't and second its done and over with.

BUT the way the show continuously treats Futoshi as the butt end to every joke the show has still not sat well with me and really soured me on Mitsuru x Kokoro relationship. What I would have really liked for the show to do (hopefully in future episodes) is have him be more introspective as to why she wanted to switch and maybe even confront her and ask her to get closure. He would have felt like a character instead of a punchline and would have been more on board with Kokoro x Mitsuru.

I think the same can be said about Hiro & 02's relationship with the show not going far enough in these relationships because I think it uses some of the same "true love" tropes other shows use. I think it would have been more interesting if instead they didn't have the backstory where they actually met prior to the present, we found out that the kid 02 met when she was younger died. I think that would have made for more interesting dynamic.

That's how I see the show anyway. Maybe there is stuff I missed but I can't sit here this show is that revolutionary ya know.

Edit:Never mind I figured out how to separate quotes XD


I've noticed that with anime. They go for low-hanging fruit when it comes to comedy, be it gays, trans people, over weight people, etc. Though they may plan to take this more seriously in the coming future (I think Futoshi blames his weight for Kokoro not wanting him) it's kinda getting dragged down by constantly using his pain as comic relief. Much like Kokoro opened up to Mitsuru glasses could've done the same for him. Not romantically but at least to develop the two of them. It's a bit implied that Ikuno is attracted to Ichigo, they can respect that while still showing the human side of her consoling Futoshi.

Naudri said:

Hold a grudge? No. I can forgive, which I do, but I admit I do not forget (I have a really good memory, unfortunately).



Naudri said:
I believe that people who lie and break promises to their respective husbands/wives are indeed bitches and thots. If the divorce comes because one of the accountances cheats or lies, yes, obviously. If they divorce because they "no longer love each other", have had a proper discussion, have talked about it without telling lies in the process and reached the common conclusion they need to separate, no, they aren't.

You can divorce on good terms or on bad terms.


Kokoro and Futoshi are not married.

Naudri said:
"Pressured". She could have put it on hold. She could have talked about it (like she did with Mitsuru in the very first fight). We're talking about consequences in their "job"...


Why would she put it on hold? Even their superiors felt there would be a small risk involved in letting them experiment; they suggested it. She didn't do this in the middle of a battle...she did this in the middle of a meeting...in which that was part of the subject matter. I see nothing wrong with the timing. You can pressure someone without even knowing it by the way or better yet someone can feel pressured by you even if that wasn't your intention. If I am not mistaken "Kokoro" means "heart" and her character shows her being the "heart" in many ways given her nurturing and soft spoken archetype. She knew that would hurt him but she does have a right to some level of autonomy. I'm glad she spoke up, makes her character less of a phone-in.

Naudri said:

So it's okay that just after she gets a reason to break it, she actually does it without even talking about it?
What is there to talk about? She voiced that she wanted to switch. The opportunity was presented and she took it. There doesn't appear to be any requirement in which all four involved members must agree to it. It's piloting giant robots not a foursome with your neighbors.

Naudri said:
When did she apologize? That "Sorry" right after asking for a switch where she couldn't even stare at him? Please. She doesn't think she's made a mistake -that's why she admits she's not as nice as others think she is-.
Also, Hiro's promise was broken for major reasons (him having his memory erased).
It was a difficult moment for her, too. She's not used to speaking out like that hence turning away. What is she supposed to do? Give him a farewell BJ?

Naudri said:
Actually, I read some time ago that the way parents disposed of food could affect your metabolism genes to some degree.

If your parents suffered some kind of famine or had troubles getting food on the table, your metabolism would work so that it saves more resources, so you'd tend to getting fat easier. Same thing goes on the opposite direction (if your parents could get a dish on the table without problems, your metabolism would be fast and not fill up as many reserves as the opposite case).


That makes sense, though that might be moot given how saturated the human gene pool must be at that point.
May 13, 2018 4:12 PM

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I had a feeling someone would get it on in this episode - I'm always hyped when it happens since it's such a rarity in anime.
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QWERTYFish25 said:
Kokoro and Futoshi are not married.

I know. But that comment was referring to someone else talking about marriage. I didn't post it as an argument for the anime "problem" discussion, but rather about the comment on RL issues.

QWERTYFish25 said:
Why would she put it on hold? Even their superiors felt there would be a small risk involved in letting them experiment; they suggested it. She didn't do this in the middle of a battle...she did this in the middle of a meeting...in which that was part of the subject matter. I see nothing wrong with the timing. You can pressure someone without even knowing it by the way or better yet someone can feel pressured by you even if that wasn't your intention. If I am not mistaken "Kokoro" means "heart" and her character shows her being the "heart" in many ways given her nurturing and soft spoken archetype. She knew that would hurt him but she does have a right to some level of autonomy. I'm glad she spoke up, makes her character less of a phone-in.

So that she could have had time to reflect on it and think of a better answer than a plain "yes" since she didn't want to in first place. Noone's denying autonomy, just stating that she did things in horrible ways. Yeah, she's "a heart", but others are also.

And yes, kokoro means heart in a "feelings" way (not the actual organ).

QWERTYFish25 said:
What is there to talk about? She voiced that she wanted to switch. The opportunity was presented and she took it. There doesn't appear to be any requirement in which all four involved members must agree to it. It's piloting giant robots not a foursome with your neighbors.

Those robots' mechanisms work with pilots' compatibilities. That's why Pistil-Pistil doesn't work, and in the first tests the new pairs make, they have poor sync (they barely pass the minimum connection). If they calmly talked about it, it would have gone better.

QWERTYFish25 said:
It was a difficult moment for her, too. She's not used to speaking out like that hence turning away. What is she supposed to do? Give him a farewell BJ?

Nope. Just take him to some corner and explain him properly the situation. No need to go sexual. You're kind of radical here.
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Naudri said:
QWERTYFish25 said:
Kokoro and Futoshi are not married.

I know. But that comment was referring to someone else talking about marriage. I didn't post it as an argument for the anime "problem" discussion, but rather about the comment on RL issues.

QWERTYFish25 said:
Why would she put it on hold? Even their superiors felt there would be a small risk involved in letting them experiment; they suggested it. She didn't do this in the middle of a battle...she did this in the middle of a meeting...in which that was part of the subject matter. I see nothing wrong with the timing. You can pressure someone without even knowing it by the way or better yet someone can feel pressured by you even if that wasn't your intention. If I am not mistaken "Kokoro" means "heart" and her character shows her being the "heart" in many ways given her nurturing and soft spoken archetype. She knew that would hurt him but she does have a right to some level of autonomy. I'm glad she spoke up, makes her character less of a phone-in.

So that she could have had time to reflect on it and think of a better answer than a plain "yes" since she didn't want to in first place. Noone's denying autonomy, just stating that she did things in horrible ways. Yeah, she's "a heart", but others are also.

And yes, kokoro means heart in a "feelings" way (not the actual organ).

QWERTYFish25 said:
What is there to talk about? She voiced that she wanted to switch. The opportunity was presented and she took it. There doesn't appear to be any requirement in which all four involved members must agree to it. It's piloting giant robots not a foursome with your neighbors.

Those robots' mechanisms work with pilots' compatibilities. That's why Pistil-Pistil doesn't work, and in the first tests the new pairs make, they have poor sync (they barely pass the minimum connection). If they calmly talked about it, it would have gone better.

QWERTYFish25 said:
It was a difficult moment for her, too. She's not used to speaking out like that hence turning away. What is she supposed to do? Give him a farewell BJ?

Nope. Just take him to some corner and explain him properly the situation. No need to go sexual. You're kind of radical here.


1) I know that part wasn't really an argument. However given how people have spoken as if they were an item yah, never know

2) I think she did what most short sighted teens would do especially without knowing the fact you can alternate. I understand the spontaneity. Also she was probably just trying to appease Futoshi. It felt more like a "Yeah, sure." rather than a full blown "yes."

3) I guess. That still wouldn't have an affect on whether Kokoro would've have chosen to go with Mitsuru. Also as we've seen compatibility varies. Also I see the writers don't really seem to be taking Futoshi's feelings as seriously as others so there's no worry about incompatibility if only for the sake of "cause the plot says so."

4A) Yeah, I guess though that's more of the fault of the writers really not giving a shit about Futoshi. Sadly he's just a punchline, it seems.

4B) I have an average of 90 tabs of hentai/porn open at any given time. And no, almost none of it is Netorare.
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If you listen very closely you can hear Futoshi cries on the background.


OT: Kokoro proving once again why she is the best girl in the entire series. Good episode minus the whole Hiro crap with him becoming more like 02, wich i hope this doenst mean that the parasites all contain the DNA of this queen or something like that (still at least that would make more sense than "because he licked my blood" explanation).
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I found this masterpiece floating around. This is too funny! HAHAHAHA
「ボクは…確かに現実に絶望している。だけど、自分には絶望していない!! 今がつまらないか…楽しいのか…平凡なのか…決めているのは現実じゃない。決めるのはボクだ!!ボクが望めば不可能はない!!」-桂木桂馬
"True, I've given up on the real world. However, I haven't given up on myself!! The world doesn't get to decide whether my life is boring, fun, or ordinary because that's my decision to make!! As long as I have the will, nothing is impossible!!" -Katsuragi Keima
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QWERTYFish25 said:
Alpenglow said:
Well, another great episode. I like how this is going.

I'm not sure who was the one who said that the big problem in this industry these days is that too many people involved in it try to recreate human relationships without having such relationships themselves (which fortunately does not happen with this case in particular). The same applies to anime communities, and that's why it's embarrassing to read several comments here and on other websites.


Yeah, like damn. Dudes are entitled as fuck. Girl showed NO interest other than being friendly or having to be paired up with this guy yet people hope the worst for her. These are the type of dudes feminists worry about...not Futoshi but part of the audience. These are the cats that empathize with that InCel killer from Canada a few weeks ago.


It's the same as when episode 14 aired, they went straight to hating on Ichigo and calling her "Bitchigo" without calming down and trying to see things from the characters POV. There is no pint in them watching if they won't see things from the characters perspectives.

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copyrightRingo said:
I found this masterpiece floating around. This is too funny! HAHAHAHA

OMG !!!
Hahahhahh. Actual ending of episode
XD
I ship them now


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I got used to the idea of Hiro and zero two being together, I am not to happy about the situation Ichigo is in, especially considering the ed, but that could just me misleading. I am definitely not comfortable with the whole Kokoro and Mitsuru relationship due to the way they treated Futoshi, but in the end I understand their feelings and their goals. Finally got to see Ikuno do something relevant to the story, looking forward to seeing her more throughout the rest of the series.
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Eagerly awaiting Ikuno's lesbian awakening
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Who voiced the klaxosaur princess? Think she's listed as 001 in the end credits

Good catch! It says Kugimiya Rie. Her japanese wikipedia page credit her as 001 so I guess they want to keep it semi secret for now.

But who else could it be since she hasn't been credited before this episode and all the Nines are credited separately? I'd say it has to be the klaxosaur princess.

The chances that she's related to Zero Two just went up considerably. Besides her face look similar to Zero Two as well.

I'm 99.9% sure it's Kugimiya, In the moment I heard the princess's voice I knew it was Kugimiya.
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A-1 Pictures, you motherf*cker.

Endorsing cucking.

And thottery.

And now, teenage pregnancy.

With thottery.

And cucking.

Ravioli ravioli, Kirito will not touch the loli.
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So less than 10 episodes for it to end... I'm actually worried of the pacing, since through episode 1 and 15 we see continously how Hiro and Zero Two confirm their feelings, some world building and getting to know the other characters, but most of the episodes that focus on Zero Two and Hiro could be done in less. You see, through episodes 1 and 6 Hiro managed to became the official partner of Zero Two, Then dino aids gets cured and we see that Hiro can manage to stay alive with her. Then we see that they knew way before, since they were kids... So this could be done in less than 6 episodes with no problem in the pacing. And now we get this episode that get it right just because it managed to touch multiple topics, not like the others.
I'm saying this because Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann have a pacing that manage to mark how their characters change and grow, faster and it doesn't even feel wrong.

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just posting my daily hate for that bitch.

Hope everyone dies in this anime except for hiro and zero two :D
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just posting my daily hate for that bitch.

Hope everyone dies in this anime except for hiro and zero two :D


Dude...up the dosage.
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my belief:

Zero Two is actually a true human, what happened was that humans had reached a point where they had evolved again. Some people (Church) were probably agaisnt the idea of humans evolving and resorted to creating something like artificial "old" humans through machines instead of sex. And the whole WAR thing is about the new evolved humans vs the crazy religious bastards that think evolution is fake.

My prediction is that, just as how the natural world works the old humans will end up phased out and Hiro will evolve into the next step of evolution for humans becoming same as Zero Two.

I predict (and hope) everyone dies in this anime except for Hiro and Zero Two. MAYBE the current evolved princess won't approve of Hiro and Zero Two will have some sort of fight with the princess and take her spot becoming the new princess of the evolved humans just like in the book, and Hiro will become the prince.

sorry if you want everyone to survive, at this point for myself I prefer if everyone died except for Hiro and Zero Two.

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Dude...up the dosage.


I give up haha I don't actually care about this whole NTR thing anymore. After watching and reading actual romance anime / manga for the last two days I managed to get rid of the bad taste that FranXX left.

I mean, at this point in the game, can it really go worse than this?
Cro_pcMay 13, 2018 8:12 PM
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Whorekoro confirmed worst girl


Are you kidding me since when does having sex make you a whore? and she wanted to do it for a wholesome reason of having a baby and we all know that Kokoro is like the nicest character in the show so she is not a whore
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So many stuffs happened, like Hiro growing horns wasn't surprising enough but Mitsuru and Kokoro finally did it! why they gotta skip it tho? I ASK FOR DOUJINS! hope the manga doesn't skip it, in Yabuki sensei we trust!
Kokoro thirst got real.
Anyways, the green haired nine's VA... that's fucking Ayane Sakura!!!! I knew it was her after the ep when they were inside the frankxx too.


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Hiro turning into a blue oni. Can't say that was unexpected from the time that veiny blue stuff was absorbed by his body into that chest scar of his. In turn all of it made possible by him tasting 02's blood from childhood. That blue klaxosaur princess though. Dat voice especially. I know that voice.

Kokoro and Mitsuru climbing the stairs to adulthood. From the moment she picked up that book, I knew this was going to happen with her. Of course, when she gets pregnant it's highly likely "Papa" will have her disappear to protect their artificial society built on lies... Also, Futoshi's ship sank a long time ago so personally I see no point in reacting negatively about this "controversy".

The more disturbing thing here is the implication that adults don't have reproductive organs anymore unlike children and teenagers. Some kind of "coming of age" surgery going on in their society? All the adults are neutered and spayed like pets? Dunno if that already applies to Nana and Hachi as well though.
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Hiro turning into a blue oni. Can't say that was unexpected from the time that veiny blue stuff was absorbed by his body into that chest scar of his. In turn all of it made possible by him tasting 02's blood from childhood. That blue klaxosaur princess though. Dat voice especially. I know that voice.

Kokoro and Mitsuru climbing the stairs to adulthood. From the moment she picked up that book, I knew this was going to happen with her. Of course, when she gets pregnant it's highly likely "Papa" will have her disappear to protect their artificial society built on lies... Also, Futoshi's ship sank a long time ago so personally I see no point in reacting negatively about this "controversy".

The more disturbing thing here is the implication that adults don't have reproductive organs anymore unlike children and teenagers. Some kind of "coming of age" surgery going on in their society? All the adults are neutered and spayed like pets? Dunno if that already applies to Nana and Hachi as well though.


Finally some good thought provoking commentary!

I hope to goodness that Kokoro and her baby (And Mitsuru pls) make it to the end of this series alive and well.

And yeah, when Nana flipped out and that creepy little blonde kid mentioned 'replacing her with a new nana' I immediately thought of that, and also I wondered, does 'Papa' make clones of the few adults who take care of the kids, and if so, do the other plantations have a Nana and a Hachi?
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By definition, everything is retro since by the time you realize something has happened it's already in the past.
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what an episode for today, i mean those 9's sure has been sent down by Papa for some reason and im so eager to know what they are gonna report to him...

anyways Hiro x Zero 2 drawing moment is cute, as Zero 2 is drawing what is on the picture book..

the Mitsuro and kokoro moment is the one that made it a little controversial to the 9's and their group. well she has been asking some things about reproduction which is illegal to be discussed with.

Princess klauxarus appeared... hmmm!!! this sure will be their final battle!!!

and as the episode says in the opening and last part, the ending will happen, its possible nearer or later.

im so excited about the development of the story so far. will they all be saved, or will just one remain. hahaha
May 13, 2018 10:51 PM

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Really dislike the entire group of Nines.

The scene with the princess of the Klaxosaurs was interesting, even revealing that the "people in the sky" may not be humans. Going to be interesting to see what happens with Mitsuru and Kokoro now that they've gone and done it.
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If on Mount Inaba's peak
I should hear the sound
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May 14, 2018 12:32 AM

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Man don't tell me the other kids will have sex as well because they believe Kokoro or something.. but wow this thing is insanity!
May 14, 2018 12:34 AM

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The ending holyshit....
And I managed to capture a still frame of Nana's PTSD

May 14, 2018 12:43 AM

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protecc kokoro!!


let's us protecc Kokoro!!
May 14, 2018 1:03 AM

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They're pulling a mars of destruction lol
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Well... well, ladies and gentlemen, in the following chapters of FranXX:



I'm not sure, but this smells like an abortion or two that die both with their unborn child! xD
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Well... well, ladies and gentlemen, in the following chapters of FranXX:



I'm not sure, but this smells like an abortion or two that die both with their unborn child! xD


Pretty sure /co/ uses this as an miscarrage meme.


I go where I wanna go, even if its into Oppai.
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So kokoro and Mitsuri ended up having sex...right? I mean they where both in bed naked.
Although their ages aren’t said,by the looks of it they are 15/16 and getting pregnant that early doesnt seem like a good idea.

I fianlly got to see what the princess looks like,pretty cool
women reach sexual maturity around 16. From a physical and mental pov they are mature as they will ever be at 16. Men enter puberty later and mature around 18. That is why in many countries the legal age to vote is 18. So technically they could have a baby. But it would be difficult. Kokoro is kinda flat.

As a side note in the old days it was not unusual for women to have babies even as early as 12 although in civilised countries the minimum age was 14.

Not only Kokoro clearly has the biggest rack of them all but you also believe that breast's size has anything to with milk production? Do you have some mental disability?
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nightcrawlercyp said:
women reach sexual maturity around 16. From a physical and mental pov they are mature as they will ever be at 16. Men enter puberty later and mature around 18. That is why in many countries the legal age to vote is 18. So technically they could have a baby. But it would be difficult. Kokoro is kinda flat.

As a side note in the old days it was not unusual for women to have babies even as early as 12 although in civilised countries the minimum age was 14.

Not only Kokoro clearly has the biggest rack of them all but you also believe that breast's size has anything to with milk production? Do you have some mental disability?
Yes it is linked. Breast size is generally linked to overall body fat. That is why fat women generally also have big tits. Basically that milk is in big part converted from fat. But hey I probably have a mental disability because I think logically and can reason.
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Kokoro confirmed as biggest THOT in 2018...
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Oh it turned awesome.
Oni Hiro & 02 are so smooth sailing. Miku's flower headpiece is beautiful.
Two naked guys one river.
So gender is used only for piloting by kids, & Nana was a former pilot but shows puberty relapse. Wait, then these kids can become adults eventually, someone was lying.
Lesbian slaps 9arba9eBlonde, 1vs0. Yuri matters.
The Hime & ost was really cool.
Mitsuru & Kokoro yay ship sails.
'Papas' are hollow 'human wannabes'...machines? AI? Aliens? Pulling a Kino's Journey there.


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I honestly don't understand why people are pissed at Kokoro still?
Cuz she wasn't into Futoshi? Get over it, it wasn't gonna work out between them anyway.
Jesus christ, people out here treating her like a hoe cuz she broke some promise?
Good fucking lord this is getting ridiculous, it was one stupid grade school promise. Holy fuck!
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OMFD, this anime never fails... I’m lovin' this evolution of live that we're seeing (ahem) kokoro and mitsuru got down to business at the end of this 😏; but what was that about zero two not being able to have children 😭😭
I’m wondering though about that green haired one from the NINEs; was that a boy or a girl, since that would answer the big question hanging over this anime -how do the NINEs FranXX’s function?
Anyway, looking forward to next week’s development... Things seem to be climaxing ”like mitsuru’s and kokoro's relationship -if you know what I mean!” 😋
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Kokoro confirmed as biggest THOT in 2018...


Real life Futoshis are really hurt that being "nice" isn't a substitute for an actual personality. XD
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--ALEX-- said:
Kokoro confirmed as biggest THOT in 2018...


Real life Futoshis are really hurt that being "nice" isn't a substitute for an actual personality. XD


Indeed. The level of self projection from some people on the FranXX forums has been nothing short of astonishing.

BUT SHE PROMISEEDDDD....
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I honestly don't understand why people are pissed at Kokoro still?
Cuz she wasn't into Futoshi? Get over it, it wasn't gonna work out between them anyway.
Jesus christ, people out here treating her like a hoe cuz she broke some promise?
Good fucking lord this is getting ridiculous, it was one stupid grade school promise. Holy fuck!


No. Rather because everybody (well, the ones that call Kokoro all sorts of shit) goes "She made a promise, broke it, slept with Mitsuru AND is stupid for wanting to get pregnant".
Basically ignoring.........well...............EVERYTHING that would prove them wrong (and guess what, i dont even have to prove anything myself since the people with an IQ over 50 already have done the job. Yeah, i've been following this "discussion" since the beginning).
In other words: Its picking and choosing at its finest.
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this show prove, sex education for child needed.
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QWERTYFish25 said:
MiiyoSon said:


No worries man just asking for clarification.



Not sure how to separate quotes so forgive me.

I will agree with you that anime generally doesn't have the most convincing relationships. That's why I love shows like Rakugo that show these types of complex relationships. To tie it back into Franxx, my problem is that I feel Franxx is not one of those shows because I don't think it goes far enough.

You're absolutely right that Kokoro was not obligated to stay with Futoshi and people who keep harping that he was "betrayed" REEAAALLLLYYYYY need to let that shit go cause first of all no he wasn't and second its done and over with.

BUT the way the show continuously treats Futoshi as the butt end to every joke the show has still not sat well with me and really soured me on Mitsuru x Kokoro relationship. What I would have really liked for the show to do (hopefully in future episodes) is have him be more introspective as to why she wanted to switch and maybe even confront her and ask her to get closure. He would have felt like a character instead of a punchline and would have been more on board with Kokoro x Mitsuru.

I think the same can be said about Hiro & 02's relationship with the show not going far enough in these relationships because I think it uses some of the same "true love" tropes other shows use. I think it would have been more interesting if instead they didn't have the backstory where they actually met prior to the present, we found out that the kid 02 met when she was younger died. I think that would have made for more interesting dynamic.

That's how I see the show anyway. Maybe there is stuff I missed but I can't sit here this show is that revolutionary ya know.

Edit:Never mind I figured out how to separate quotes XD


I've noticed that with anime. They go for low-hanging fruit when it comes to comedy, be it gays, trans people, over weight people, etc. Though they may plan to take this more seriously in the coming future (I think Futoshi blames his weight for Kokoro not wanting him) it's kinda getting dragged down by constantly using his pain as comic relief. Much like Kokoro opened up to Mitsuru glasses could've done the same for him. Not romantically but at least to develop the two of them. It's a bit implied that Ikuno is attracted to Ichigo, they can respect that while still showing the human side of her consoling Futoshi.


Haha "Implied" he says XD LOL

Seriously though I'm hoping they do take Futoshi more seriously too (although at this point I highly doubt it) cause as of now, using him as a literal stepping stone for other characters to get development and then not use him for anything else is not good character writing.
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