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Feb 24, 2018 7:26 AM
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sea-lemon said:
I hate Matsuri so much, there's nothing worse than a character that is pain in the ass because they don't give a shit about anything and just wanna make a mess for the sake of it. Here I thought that Momo idiot was my biggest problem. But if we're gonna look on a story telling point of view, Mei needed to wake up to the her real feelings towards Yuzu and the easiest way to do that is with a rival. That's a shame they're going down this path, I just hope Matsuri gets wrecked and kicked out by the next episode.
actually theres quite a good reason why matsuri is doing that. in case youre reading this after ep 8,
Feb 24, 2018 8:10 AM

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MHEEC said:


That still doesn't justify her behaviour, in fact, it's such a cliche explanation that I don't feel an ounce of pity for her. She has gone on this long without Yuzu, so she should carry on without her. I did think the reason for her being unlikeable was because her parents were assholes, but she still comes across as a brat that needs to disappear no matter what.
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Feb 24, 2018 8:42 AM
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sea-lemon said:
MHEEC said:


That still doesn't justify her behaviour, in fact, it's such a cliche explanation that I don't feel an ounce of pity for her. She has gone on this long without Yuzu, so she should carry on without her.
but she still comes across as a brat that needs to disappear no matter what.
if you live a whole life with
youre very likely gonna become someone bitter and depressive, sometimes even violent. matsuri deal with her pain by clinging into yuzu, and trying to protect something so precious to her is only natural, especially when she deems the other one isnt worthy of her affection. can you imagine how you would react if someone really dear to you (apparently) exchanged you for an asshole? her actions not too far fetched, in fact its the opposite

also, mark spoilers
Feb 24, 2018 10:33 AM

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It's okay to kiss your little sister :)
Matsuri cheats old guys out of money.
Feb 24, 2018 9:09 PM

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Saucy said:
I'm not saying it's not possible that Mei was sexually abused as a child, but there is just not enough evidence to boldly assert it as so. It's not the only explanation for her behaviors, albeit it could explain why she feels like she can take such liberties with Yuzu without consequences.
Perhaps you're jumping the gun on what i'm saying... I never said anything about sexually abused as a child, i mean a sexually ignorant/inexperienced delicate class type girl gets her first exposure to it in highschool years probably; i was referring to prior actions by the same man, and possibly others, not her whole bloody childhood.

Saucy said:
Again, my explanation was that Mei was trying to push Yuzu away and to make sure she wasn't a threat to her future, but this idea backfired on her and lead to Yuzu falling in love with her. Just think of how powerful of a tool sex can be. If you have just been introduced to a sibling with whom you don't want anything to do with, crossing such a boundary is a sure signal to put them off. There are obvious problems with that approach, but it's a sure way to get them to hate you.
Sex is not that powerful unless you're already susceptible. Yuzu would have already had lesbian tendencies within her nature, just yet unrealized.

Saucy said:
I don't know what other signs you're talking about since you only mentioned the one with her kissing the teacher.
Only the one incident was spoken of because that's the one Yuzu saw. It's not unreasonable to assume it's happened multiple times, especially with her response when it was happening, it was like it had happened before and she was going through the motions.... Her to be suddenly lewd with a teacher and act in ways that blatantly suggest it's happened before, would be what is an unlikely stretch.
Why else would she be so sexually deranged whilst knowing fuckall about what it really means? Come on.
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Feb 24, 2018 11:21 PM

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She's no an idiot. If she wasn't sexually abused a child, as a teen, I doubt she would develop such a skewed sense of what sex means or what it's like. We have no idea what her sexual history is like and again, there isn't much evidence to go on. The fact that she forced herself onto Yuzu to show her what it felt like to be kissed by that teacher, to me, shows that she knows this kind of behavior is wrong.

I just think she has a skewed or cynical view of what love is and what sex means to people. She seems to view it as a tool to manipulate and get what she wants like she did with the teacher and and like she tried with Yuzu.


Feb 25, 2018 3:53 PM

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@Saucy She'd have no reason to believe sex a tool to manipulate unless she'd been victim or otherwise exposed to such things.
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Feb 25, 2018 4:16 PM

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GenesisAria said:
@Saucy She'd have no reason to believe sex a tool to manipulate unless she'd been victim or otherwise exposed to such things.


Not at all. I don't think you need to experience it to know that sex is a powerful tool, even as a teen. The media we all consume in the form of television, film, books, and even music all shows that people are willing to do a lot for sex. It's really not that difficult to figure out. Even if she was sheltered her whole life, she can still learn to manipulate people this way fairly easily.


Feb 25, 2018 5:26 PM

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@Saucy
But now you're assuming she watched a lot of sex drama or porn... but there's no evidence for that, and everything points to her likely previously sheltered view (rich people in anime are almost always overly sheltered) being tainted by experience.
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Feb 25, 2018 5:48 PM

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But now you're assuming she watched a lot of sex drama or porn... but there's no evidence for that, and everything points to her likely previously sheltered view (rich people in anime are almost always overly sheltered) being tainted by experience.


No I'm not assuming that at all. I'm stating an alternative. My point was that there is no evidence and that your explanations don't have much evidence. Experience is as likely as her learning about sex through people and media.


Feb 25, 2018 8:50 PM

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I literally said, watched sex drama, aka media. Whatever, she was being forced upon by a lustful man at the start, and her behaviours followed, so that's what i go on.
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Feb 26, 2018 10:23 AM

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Oh my! I ship Yuzu and Matsuri More then i do Mei! Go to sleep Mei, it's Matsuri's turn now.
Mar 3, 2018 12:17 AM

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I don't care if it's a catfight or a slugfest, I want to see Mei and Matsuri punch, claw and pulverize each other. Last person standing is best girl.

Harumin was too adorable thinking Yuzu's purity was tarnished because Matsuri kissed her, giiiiiiiiiirl, if you only know what kind of kissing Yuzu be doing behind yo back.

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Mar 11, 2018 7:30 PM

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So, uh... I wanna say "cuck" but I'm not sure if that word really applies to gay girls...

Harumin is so in tune, and that's why she's best girl.
Mar 15, 2018 8:49 AM
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Childhood friend? Just are problems!!! :/
Mar 29, 2018 6:44 AM
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I didn't dislike it, but... so CLICHE
May 13, 2019 1:28 PM
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Ah, the cliche "childhood friend comes back after a long time and starts clinging onto the MC" plot...well, this is boring.
May 18, 2019 8:46 AM

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even yuzus new friend is smart enough to see that this bitch is trouble, yuzu is so blind
Jul 9, 2019 8:25 PM

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Fuck I feel like this slut is going to single handedly ruin this show,I hope I'm wrong I don't want to see the "I was jealous of you cliche" and then one of them are probably gonna give her the talk of the truth and make her realize she's wrong and then she will smile like a bitch and accept defeat. I hope I'm wrong.
Jun 13, 2021 10:55 AM
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"That kiss meant nothing." Yeah, I'm guessing Mei does that since she gets stressed from all the schoolwork. That, alongside with genuine feelings towards Yuzu?

Matsuri's voice is really familiar. Apparently, the voice actress did a couple of roles in "Girls und Panzer." Kind of weird how Matsuri's voice took me back, considering it's been a while since I've watched GUP. But I think I could have heard the voice somewhere else.

Ah, so basically Yuzu had always lectured Matsuri. I was going to joke that Mei must have rubbed some of her uptight behaviour on Yuzu. But eh, isn't really that uptight anyway.

"Is it true that girls in all-girls schools kiss each other?" Damn it, it made me laugh when Yuzu spit her drink out.

Damn, Matsuri must be pretty smart if she figured out Yuzu likes Mei. I mean, Yuzu is blushing in the picture, but I like to think that it's exaggerated for the viewers so we get the point. Also, yeah, I can really feel that Matsuri might be a huge source of in-universe drama.

Yeah, I find it a little ironic (but not surprising) that Yuzu and Harumi are more "prudish" than Mei.

How did Matsuri get in the school? I'm guessing that day didn't had the student council at the entrance blocking people from entering or something? But damn, she's like an extreme version of Yuzu. Yuzu has the guts to modify her uniform despite being in a strict school. Matsuri, on the other hand, just barges in. She even kisses Yuzu in public, right in front of Mei! And I assume homosexuality in the Citrus universe isn't viewed as normal? Although who did she call when she left the school after kicking the sign? I'm guessing Yuzu?

Yeah, I like the tension so far. Like, Yuzu is more "prudish" than Mei and Matsuri. While Yuzu and Matsuri are both "delinquents" as opposed to Mei's "good student" image.

I'm guessing Mei x Yuzu would win over Matsuri x Yuzu. I mean, Mei x Yuzu is featured in the manga cover, OP, and ED. But hey, it would be pretty unexpected if a different pairing becomes "more canonical."

Also, based on my experience, girls do cling to each other. Well, not like in this anime with all the kissing and touching like Mei and Matsuri. But I'd say I've met a handful of girls whose relationships are similar to Yuzu and Harumi's. IDK, maybe I've just been watching way too many cute girls doing cute things anime.
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Matsuri makes a pretty good antagonist tbh, her actions are evident that the love is mutual between Yuzu and Mei. Because Mei was all over the place I couldn't tell lol. Her behaviour is really something else too, scamming old dudes at such a young age.

Anyways, I want to see how this will play out.
Jan 26, 2022 1:04 PM
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Great episode.

Matsuri is up to no good. She's pretty much the perfect "antagonist" in this story. I love her character!

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Jul 14, 2022 11:21 PM
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Ugh, I already don't like Matsuri :\

At least things will start to get more interesting b/w Yuzu and Mei ૮ • ﻌ - ა`` ~ ୨୧ ✩°。⋆⸜
Jul 21, 2022 1:48 AM

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Hate pink haired chick, reminds me of Mami.
Jul 28, 2022 8:38 AM

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Yep, here we go again
My blood is boiling.
Thank god I thought that this little piece of garbage was gonna Photoshop mei's face and (you know) ruin her reputation.
Oct 23, 2022 1:34 PM

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The last time I've seen this much of a hardworking homewrecker was Scum's Wish, and I don't think any character should strive to become anything resembling that particular case, despite my eventual understanding and acceptance of that Scum's Wish character. Vengeful, prone to violence, jealous and envious, scheming, spiteful, and full of sadism. Goodness gracous.

I dislike these kinds of characters because they rarely have any personality or purpose beyond just causing drama. They're like walking disaster zones, and whenever they show up, the anime's story always gets thrown off course, pivoting hard to dealing with rampant misunderstandings, lies, and outright malice purely due a singular character's unrelenting hatred of anything resembling peace. I really hope there's more to Matsuri's character than just screwing with people, figuratively or otherwise.
Nov 8, 2022 8:51 AM
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Best anime what I watched
May 15, 2023 4:49 PM

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I wonder how Matsuri is going to be like throughout the rest of the series now that she is introduced. But it seems like she is going after Yuzu as well. Can't wait to see how this ends.
Sep 16, 2023 4:11 AM

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this is crap.

Yuzu doesnt still know how to use her fucking arms.

Have some sense of personal space or ownership jezus crist

Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.


I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death.


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