is the first year of Trump a success?
yes
35.1%
20
no
50.9%
29
neutral
14.0%
8
57 votes
| It's been a fucking trainwreck. I bet he'll mumble something about alt-left and have a heart attack, lol. |
| TL;DW As we say in Swedish: mycket snack och lite verkstad (lots of talk and no workshop) |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Uhhhhhhhhh this poll is pointless. Even the strongest of Trump supporters are switching sides. Can we have more Trumpisms pls? |
All of it is good fun, probably the best thing to come out of his election |
| Very little has changed, he can't get anything done because his policies are too draconian and he often refuses to negotiate even with his own party sometimes. |
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| Meme man tell me about walls and jesus |
 I can see you |
| What a disappointment. I can't believe Trump said those things. I am officially on the side of the Never Trumpers. |
| Nope big fat failure. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| I think Trump should look for more longsighted deals, he seems to be more impulse driven. Like, taking a clear rough stance with China over Taiwan. Not only is Taiwan democratic and peaceful, it is a keystone in the trading port in the Pacific, if Taiwan is overtaken, China will become more or less unstoppable. He should have given China a nuclear warning, to deter any risk. Taiwan might be "off the table", but, if nuclear options are on the table too, China won't risk MAD. I also believe he should listen more to his advisors, definitely, and not monger so much on Twitter. As a European, and you Americans don't have what we got yet, You should be very FUCKING glad, he's strong on immigration. Believe me, the kind of terrorism we have here is not something you want, and considering USA is hated by 80% of the middle least (compared to EU who has mostly neutral emotions there). You don't wanna go down that road. |
| Progressing like cancer. isekai said: lol and only 1 major law (tax reform) passed so far and that tax reform law is only making the rich more rich while the middle class of USA will only get tax cut temporarily until 2020+ After which it's a tax hike for low income but it happens for some before then iirc. |
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traed said: Um, no.Progressing like cancer. isekai said: lol and only 1 major law (tax reform) passed so far and that tax reform law is only making the rich more rich while the middle class of USA will only get tax cut temporarily until 2020+ After which it's a tax hike for low income but it happens for some before then iirc. The tax breaks are nullified after 8 years. By that extent maybe you'd qualify it as a tax hike, but it's as it was before the break. The deductions which were doubled by the break also follow the same rules. Some obscure incentives were also temporarily cut which can raise taxes for a very minor few individuals, who are very extremely likely not poor at all. The tax cuts for businesses are just that, tax cuts, and are permanent. |
| Also streams are live now btw. Trump has not started speaking yet. |
Thrashinuva said: traed said: Um, no.Progressing like cancer. After which it's a tax hike for low income but it happens for some before then iirc. The tax breaks are nullified after 8 years. By that extent maybe you'd qualify it as a tax hike, but it's as it was before the break. The deductions which were doubled by the break also follow the same rules. Some obscure incentives were also temporarily cut which can raise taxes for a very minor few individuals, who are very extremely likely not poor at all. The tax cuts for businesses are just that, tax cuts, and are permanent. No it goes up higher than it was before it started but the business owners keep their cuts. After a certain point it has to balance the budget or something. I posted a link to a well detailed summary of the tax plan in some older thread. Idk if I can find it again but too busy to look right now. |
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| Americans are dreamers too. |
 Democrats universally behaving like children. A huge mistake. The meme pushers will be pushing that they grimaced at literally every positive thing that was said. |
isekai said: merit base immigration (i agree with this) cheaper drugs/medication (i agree with this but how he will do that with a republican plan on this though, single payer is the way to go but that is the democrat way) It already was but he is too ignorant to know the lottery immigration isn't a lottery in any way shape or form. Yeah I call bullshit just like he claimed ISIS would be defeated 30 days into office with his secret plan. He likely has no plan. |
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traed said: It literally is a lottery.isekai said: merit base immigration (i agree with this) cheaper drugs/medication (i agree with this but how he will do that with a republican plan on this though, single payer is the way to go but that is the democrat way) It already was but he is too ignorant to know the lottery immigration isn't a lottery in any way shape or form. Yeah I call bullshit just like he claimed ISIS would be defeated 30 days into office with his secret plan. He likely has no plan. https://www.us-immigration.com/greencard/Green-Card-Lottery.html ISIS was substantially diminished and the threat of them launching major attacks overseas substantially diminished at the same time. They weren't erased, but they were defeated in all but their lack of surrender. |
| If this poll is anywhere near accurate, then the compromise immigration bill Trump was talking about contains everything that the MAJORITY of people support: http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Final_HHP_Jan2018-Refield_RegisteredVoters_XTab.pdf Take a look at page 64 onwards. |
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Thrashinuva said: traed said: It literally is a lottery.It already was but he is too ignorant to know the lottery immigration isn't a lottery in any way shape or form. Yeah I call bullshit just like he claimed ISIS would be defeated 30 days into office with his secret plan. He likely has no plan. https://www.us-immigration.com/greencard/Green-Card-Lottery.html ISIS was substantially diminished and the threat of them launching major attacks overseas substantially diminished at the same time. They weren't erased, but they were defeated in all but their lack of surrender. No it's not. They have to be able to qualify and done all the paper work to even be selected. He promised 30 days. Also that's not from the US alone he said HE would do it. |
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Grey-Zone said: If this poll is anywhere near accurate, then the compromise immigration bill Trump was talking about contains everything that the MAJORITY of people support: http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Final_HHP_Jan2018-Refield_RegisteredVoters_XTab.pdf Take a look at page 64 onwards. The bill looks to be ok and on par with RACA. |
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traed said: Thrashinuva said: It literally is a lottery. https://www.us-immigration.com/greencard/Green-Card-Lottery.html ISIS was substantially diminished and the threat of them launching major attacks overseas substantially diminished at the same time. They weren't erased, but they were defeated in all but their lack of surrender. No it's not. They have to be able to qualify and done all the paper work to even be selected. He promised 30 days. Also that's not from the US alone he said HE would do it. The lottery is to jump to the front of the line in what is a years long process. Just because you still have to go through a process doesn't mean there's no form of lottery involved. What, you thought he was going to land his feet on their soil with a machine gun in his hands? You can't take every little thing so seriously. If he was the savior of all of mankind, you'd complain that he didn't do it fast enough. |
Thrashinuva said: Democrats universally behaving like children. A huge mistake. The meme pushers will be pushing that they grimaced at literally every positive thing that was said. ^This is fucking hilarious. Are you new to American politics or something? Go back to Obama's SOTU addresses....I can point to many, MANY times the GOP behaved like fucking kids towards him. This is something that happens every fucking year....Trump is no exception. |
| Donald Trump is by far the biggest American embarrassment of my lifetime and has truly made me for the first time ever DISLIKE America to such a degree. Even Bush could not make me feel like this....and that fucking dipshit started two endless wars which we are STILL feeling the effects almost two decades later. Personally, I'm NOT down with this whole meme shit a lot of you seem to relish on (Trump Supporters). Memes ARE fun and funny....but NOT when the most powerful man on the planet is one of your shitty memes! And ultimately this is what it's ALL about. Trump Supporters LOVE the fact that Trump is hated as much as he is....the ultimate objective of a troll is to enact a strong reaction....and no one has done that better than Trump. Sooo...here we have Trump Supporters laughing and enjoying the fact we have a literal idiot who is clearly unfit to be president while the rest of us who take it seriously can't believe we have to deal with this shit. There is no winning here. |
| Democrats didn't stand for the parents of teenage girls murdered by MS13, yet give a standing ovation to top cuck Joe Kennedy when he fake cries for a bunch of trannies. Anyway Trump is doing well by me. My investments have gone up considerably in the past year and I don't have to pay that travesty of an individual mandate. Crybabies keep crying. |
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| I'll vote no until he finally builds the much needed wall. And hopefully Mexico pays for it, just like he promised. |
Bayek said: Democrats didn't stand for the parents of teenage girls murdered by MS13, yet give a standing ovation to top cuck Joe Kennedy when he fake cries for a bunch of trannies. Anyway Trump is doing well by me. My investments have gone up considerably in the past year and I don't have to pay that travesty of an individual mandate. Crybabies keep crying. Another person that has clearly never seen SOTU addresses before. Go back to Obama's SOTU to see how many times the GOP would not applaud Obama even when he said things that CLEARLY were nonpartisan. This is just a game. Furthermore, if I had been in that crowd, I would not have applauded a single thing Trump said. |
| it was kinda boring, was funny seeing dems' hyper partisan reactions to everything though. --ALEX-- said: Donald Trump is by far the biggest American embarrassment of my lifetime and has truly made me for the first time ever DISLIKE America to such a degree. Even Bush could not make me feel like this....and that fucking dipshit started two endless wars which we are STILL feeling the effects almost two decades later. stopped reading right here. the rest of your post im sure is just more meaningless babble and generalizations against a specific thing conjured up in your head that you've been posting about for the past year that no one here takes seriously anymore. get new material. |
 Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Valaskjalf said: I'll vote no until he finally builds the much needed wall. And hopefully Mexico pays for it, just like he promised. Literally never going to happen. I feel like people are stuck on this fantasy where Trump is the FIRST man ever to think of this idea... "Hey, here's a thought....LET'S BUILD A WALL!" There's a damn good reason why there is no wall in the U.S/Mexico border. The terrain is absolutely brutal, it costs a shit ton of money, and ultimately even if you DO overcome the terrain and money issues....it's fucking pointless! A wall will NOT deter anyone! You might as well burn billions of dollars because that is more effective than building a useless wall. Yomiyuki said: it was kinda boring, was funny seeing dems' hyper partisan reactions to everything though. I'm starting to see a pattern here. Lol...seriously, is this really the FIRST time you people have ever seen a SOTU address? |
--ALEX-- said: Okay, the GOP is filled with obstinate cucks. What, were you hoping for me to play team sport here?Bayek said: Democrats didn't stand for the parents of teenage girls murdered by MS13, yet give a standing ovation to top cuck Joe Kennedy when he fake cries for a bunch of trannies. Anyway Trump is doing well by me. My investments have gone up considerably in the past year and I don't have to pay that travesty of an individual mandate. Crybabies keep crying. Another person that has clearly never seen SOTU addresses before. Go back to Obama's SOTU to see how many times the GOP would not applaud Obama even when he said things that CLEARLY were nonpartisan. This is just a game. Furthermore, if I had been in that crowd, I would not have applauded a single thing Trump said. Also, you seem to be an obstinate cuck yourself. Why? |
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Bayek said: Democrats didn't stand for the parents of teenage girls murdered by MS13, yet give a standing ovation to top cuck Joe Kennedy when he fake cries for a bunch of trannies. Maybe because MS13 originated in our country instead of being brought to the US? Who knows why, but yes, not standing for them was totally distasteful. --ALEX-- said: Sooo...here we have Trump Supporters laughing and enjoying the fact we have a literal idiot who is clearly unfit to be president while the rest of us who take it seriously can't believe we have to deal with this shit. There is no winning here. Totally agree with this. No matter how much one likes his policies or how much they actually do for the country, Trump's toxic self-projection is going to rattle politics for a while. I don't think the littler effects right now are as important as how fit our governing body is in 10, 20, or 30 years. His conduct certainly doesn't help. |
N30-R3TR0 said: Bayek said: Democrats didn't stand for the parents of teenage girls murdered by MS13, yet give a standing ovation to top cuck Joe Kennedy when he fake cries for a bunch of trannies. Maybe because MS13 originated in our country instead of being brought to the US? lmfao what the actual fuck? what kind of mental gymnastics did you do to reach this logic. ms-13 was literally formed by central american immigrants in the 80's. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
--ALEX-- said: Valaskjalf said: I'll vote no until he finally builds the much needed wall. And hopefully Mexico pays for it, just like he promised. Literally never going to happen. I feel like people are stuck on this fantasy where Trump is the FIRST man ever to think of this idea... "Hey, here's a thought....LET'S BUILD A WALL!" There's a damn good reason why there is no wall in the U.S/Mexico border. The terrain is absolutely brutal, it costs a shit ton of money, and ultimately even if you DO overcome the terrain and money issues....it's fucking pointless! A wall will NOT deter anyone! You might as well burn billions of dollars because that is more effective than building a useless wall. Yomiyuki said: it was kinda boring, was funny seeing dems' hyper partisan reactions to everything though. I'm starting to see a pattern here. Lol...seriously, is this really the FIRST time you people have ever seen a SOTU address? what's your point??? like rato said, the gop are cucks too. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Bayek said: --ALEX-- said: Okay, the GOP is filled with obstinate cucks. What, were you hoping for me to play team sport here?Another person that has clearly never seen SOTU addresses before. Go back to Obama's SOTU to see how many times the GOP would not applaud Obama even when he said things that CLEARLY were nonpartisan. This is just a game. Furthermore, if I had been in that crowd, I would not have applauded a single thing Trump said. Also, you seem to be an obstinate cuck yourself. Why? Are you being serious right now? "Cuck"? Really? I'm just saying this is how it always goes, whoever the president is, the opposing political party will play partisan ball the entire address. Hell, I remember in Obama's final SOTU he said "This is my last SOTU" and the GOP immediately clapped and yelled with joy....while Obama laughed and gave a clearly sheepish grin at the reaction. This is how it's always been. |
--ALEX-- said: Joking? About cucks? Surely you jest.Bayek said: Okay, the GOP is filled with obstinate cucks. What, were you hoping for me to play team sport here? Also, you seem to be an obstinate cuck yourself. Why? Are you being serious right now? "Cuck"? Really? I'm just saying this is how it always goes, whoever the president is, the opposing political party will play partisan ball the entire address. Hell, I remember in Obama's final SOTU he said "This is my last SOTU" and the GOP immediately clapped and yelled with joy....while Obama laughed and gave a clearly sheepish grin at the reaction. This is how it's always been. No, I haven't seen other SOTU addresses. My basic take has always been to show the POTUS respect even in the face of disagreement. There were lots of non-partisan moments for the Democrats to take part in and they decided to do what you just told me: "Furthermore, if I had been in that crowd, I would not have applauded a single thing Trump said." You're being obstinate for nothing more than to make a statement that ultimately achieves nothing. It just makes you and the Dems look like sore losers. |
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Bayek said: don't you know?--ALEX-- said: Joking? About cucks? Surely you jest.Are you being serious right now? "Cuck"? Really? I'm just saying this is how it always goes, whoever the president is, the opposing political party will play partisan ball the entire address. Hell, I remember in Obama's final SOTU he said "This is my last SOTU" and the GOP immediately clapped and yelled with joy....while Obama laughed and gave a clearly sheepish grin at the reaction. This is how it's always been. No, I haven't seen other SOTU addresses. My basic take has always been to show the POTUS respect even in the face of disagreement. There were lots of non-partisan moments for the Democrats to take part in and they decided to do what you just told me: "Furthermore, if I had been in that crowd, I would not have applauded a single thing Trump said." You're being obstinate for nothing more than to make a statement that ultimately achieves nothing. It just makes you and the Dems look like sore losers. alex is a radical centrist, but would've voted hilary if it came down to it. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Yomiyuki said: lmfao what the actual fuck? what kind of mental gymnastics did you do to reach this logic. ms-13 was literally formed by central american immigrants in the 80's. El Salvadorans and other Central Americans immigrated to the U.S. and formed the gang. If a bunch of Germans moved to Thailand and formed a gang there, then the gang would have originated in Thailand. I don't know what kind of mental gymnastics you are performing to think that your race determines where your gang is from. Edit: The gang members themselves may come from wherever, but the place that the gang is formed in is the origin of the gang. It's the same thing as an immigrant forming a business in a foreign country. |
N30-R3TR0Jan 30, 2018 9:32 PM
N30-R3TR0 said: Yomiyuki said: lmfao what the actual fuck? what kind of mental gymnastics did you do to reach this logic. ms-13 was literally formed by central american immigrants in the 80's. El Salvadorans and other Central Americans immigrated to the U.S. and formed the gang. If a bunch of Germans moved to Thailand and formed a gang there, then the gang would have originated in Thailand. I don't know what kind of mental gymnastics you are performing to think that your race determines where your gang is from. you literally said they originated in the US, as in they have roots in the US. they were from central america. and when did i say race determines what gang you're in? where in my post did i even mention race? |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
| as outsider, it could've been worse... so i vote neutral... lot shit does getting worse, but at least not fatal yet (that jarussalem one was dissaterious tho, but not formally yet so i don't count it)... if there is vote >at least, not as bad as i expected i would vote the shit out of it... i rank it 5/10... |
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