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Jan 26, 2018 12:17 PM
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I feel very good about it.
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I will say it again since adolescents keep posting here. Intention and feelings matter, but we can never ascertain them like this series does - there is no way to look into the others' mind and soul. In this particular case, Kondo remembers his youth and sensations he felt, unable to admit being worthless (which he is not) ossan. They are being drawn together by sensations and feelings, all based on the well-intentioned emotions. I can keep coming up with reasons why this is wrong, but they are all based on biology, physicality. Love surpasses it and goes beyond the eternity. My possible discontents about *THIS* *PARTICULAR* *PAIRING* are irrelevant.

"Uuuu can't wait for them to share bed huhuhu more acceptance for me" is that what some of you deviants think? Purged be blight.
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If a girl loves an older man, its romantic.

If a older man loves a younger girl, either his a lolicon pervert or a geniune criminal.

Hmm
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Jan 27, 2018 3:57 AM

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Gazz said:
If a girl loves an older man, its romantic.

If a older man loves a younger girl, either his a lolicon pervert or a geniune criminal.



Also, I have the feeling that if the young one in the show was the boy and the older one the woman then some people would be thinking much differently.

Honeslty, I don't see all the drama here that some people see. She's mature, almost 18 and genuinely in love. If he ends up feeling something I don't think it's because of her age but because of the adult person behind the number.
Jan 27, 2018 6:46 AM
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Noxith said:
Gazz said:
If a girl loves an older man, its romantic.

If a older man loves a younger girl, either his a lolicon pervert or a geniune criminal.



Also, I have the feeling that if the young one in the show was the boy and the older one the woman then some people would be thinking much differently.

Honeslty, I don't see all the drama here that some people see. She's mature, almost 18 and genuinely in love. If he ends up feeling something I don't think it's because of her age but because of the adult person behind the number.

Yeah I would have threw up after fathoming the premise.
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Jan 27, 2018 8:23 AM

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> garden of words
>young guy x old hag
> oh look, how empowering for the wamanz

>this show
>young girl x old gramps
>pedophilia!!! age gap!!!

the double standards is just appalling. the west should just die.
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
Jan 28, 2018 8:11 AM
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kidlat020 said:
> garden of words
>young guy x old hag
> oh look, how empowering for the wamanz

>this show
>young girl x old gramps
>pedophilia!!! age gap!!!

the double standards is just appalling. the west should just die.

West should be purged along with East.
To start with, you have mixed the settings. Which is amateurish, but you will get around it one day. The guy *DOES NOT LOVE THE YOUNG GIRL*. He can't be accused of about anything. As of yet.
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kidlat020 said:
> garden of words
>young guy x old hag
> oh look, how empowering for the wamanz

>this show
>young girl x old gramps
>pedophilia!!! age gap!!!

the double standards is just appalling. the west should just die.


I agree with you bro.

When I watched her confession, I feel a weird pain in my heart.

Is it jealousy? envy? hate?

But there's one thing for sure (and I hope my GF wont read this lol)

Jan 28, 2018 7:36 PM
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Gazz said:
If a girl loves an older man, its romantic.

If a older man loves a younger girl, either his a lolicon pervert or a geniune criminal.

Hmm
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There is nothing loliconish about a 17 yo young woman, to begin with.
Jan 28, 2018 9:45 PM

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I'm ok with age gaps as long as they have mutual interest in each other.
I bet if it was a story about young looking 1000-year old or something no one would care about the age gap, lol.
Well, seriously though, there are a lot of cases with big age gap in real life so it's ok to have an anime that depicts this kind of relationship too.
Jan 30, 2018 2:35 AM

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Absolutely nothing. If they love each other genuinely, go for it. Ain't easy to find the right one AND be together.

It's not like she's underage (like 8-9) or a gold digger or that he's a pervert who likes young girls.
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Jan 30, 2018 8:50 AM
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I have no trouble with it really. I mean age gaps depend on the person. My girl is 12 years younger than me (23/ 35) but we are an about the same maturity level and able to connect with each other despite the difference
Jan 30, 2018 9:58 AM

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prince_david said:
I have no trouble with it really. I mean age gaps depend on the person. My girl is 12 years younger than me (23/ 35) but we are an about the same maturity level and able to connect with each other despite the difference


That's nice for you two. :D
But 12 years is a lot different than 28 years, in my humble opinion. XD



Jan 30, 2018 10:22 AM

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Chiibi said:
prince_david said:
I have no trouble with it really. I mean age gaps depend on the person. My girl is 12 years younger than me (23/ 35) but we are an about the same maturity level and able to connect with each other despite the difference


That's nice for you two. :D
But 12 years is a lot different than 28 years, in my humble opinion. XD


The gap still doesn't matter though.

Jan 30, 2018 10:24 AM

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Kittens-kun said:
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That's nice for you two. :D
But 12 years is a lot different than 28 years, in my humble opinion. XD


The gap still doesn't matter though.


*facepalm*

Yes, it does. The maturity levels are too bloody different.



Jan 30, 2018 10:25 AM

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Chiibi said:
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The gap still doesn't matter though.


*facepalm*

Yes, it does. The maturity levels are too bloody different.


They aren't real people. It's stupid to feel uncomfortable about it.

Jan 30, 2018 10:27 AM

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Kittens-kun said:
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*facepalm*

Yes, it does. The maturity levels are too bloody different.


They aren't real people. It's stupid to feel uncomfortable about it.


It's not stupid. Would you watch an anime about the Holocaust? How about a girl getting raped over and over? How about one about an abortion?

Do you see what I'm getting at, here?

Go watch Scum's Wish and tell me "I'm not uncomfortable". I dare you.



Jan 30, 2018 10:31 AM

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Chiibi said:
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They aren't real people. It's stupid to feel uncomfortable about it.


It's not stupid. Would you watch an anime about the Holocaust? How about a girl getting raped over and over? How about one about an abortion?

Do you see what I'm getting at, here?

Go watch Scum's Wish and tell me "I'm not uncomfortable". I dare you.


Scum's Wish? Already watched it. I wasn't uncomfortable once. Especially not in the sense of "this is disgusting and wrong" The series is obviously handling the gap in a very mature way. I don't see why people are getting triggered over it.

Jan 30, 2018 10:43 AM

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Kittens-kun said:

Scum's Wish? Already watched it. I wasn't uncomfortable once.


Wow.

I think you're in the minority there. :/

I don't see why people are getting triggered over it.

The idea of a girl romantically loving a man old enough to be her father is just "squick" for a lot of people. Different people are bothered by different things.



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Chiibi said:
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Scum's Wish? Already watched it. I wasn't uncomfortable once.


Wow.

I think you're in the minority there. :/

I don't see why people are getting triggered over it.

The idea of a girl romantically loving a man old enough to be her father is just "squick" for a lot of people. Different people are bothered by different things.


The minority? I watched it when it was airing and there were plenty of people who weren't complaining about the relationships, and watched it all the way through. And of course, some people even loved the show. Sometimes they even liked it BECAUSE of the aspects you think are gross.

Ok, and I'm allowed to think that it's stupid to be bothered by the age gap of 2D characters.

Jan 30, 2018 11:03 AM

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And of course, some people even loved the show. Sometimes they even liked it BECAUSE of the aspects you think are gross.


I thought it was a VERY well-done series. Excellent writing and directing and execution. It wouldn't have made me uncomfortable otherwise.

Ok, and I'm allowed to think that it's stupid to be bothered by the age gap of 2D characters.

Again, I will ask if you think it's stupid to be bothered by an anime all about rape? Even though rape is a very touchy trigger for thousands of people? Because if your answer is "no", it's the same concept.

Being 2D is irrelevant. It's simply the idea



Jan 30, 2018 11:10 AM

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Chiibi said:
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And of course, some people even loved the show. Sometimes they even liked it BECAUSE of the aspects you think are gross.


I thought it was a VERY well-done series. Excellent writing and directing and execution. It wouldn't have made me uncomfortable otherwise.

Ok, and I'm allowed to think that it's stupid to be bothered by the age gap of 2D characters.

Again, I will ask if you think it's stupid to be bothered by an anime all about rape? Even though rape is a very touchy trigger for thousands of people? Because if your answer is "no", it's the same concept.

Being 2D is irrelevant. It's simply the idea


Rape is a little more serious than an age gap don't you think? But still, they could always choose to just not watch it? Or if they do decide to still watch it knowing that they won't like the subject matter, they could at least not complain about it? Or they could realize that it's just fiction, and not get so stressed out about it? Plenty of options here.

Jan 30, 2018 11:12 AM

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Kittens-kun said:
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I thought it was a VERY well-done series. Excellent writing and directing and execution. It wouldn't have made me uncomfortable otherwise.


Again, I will ask if you think it's stupid to be bothered by an anime all about rape? Even though rape is a very touchy trigger for thousands of people? Because if your answer is "no", it's the same concept.

Being 2D is irrelevant. It's simply the idea


Rape is a little more serious than an age gap don't you think?


You're missing the point of what I'm trying to explain entirely.....so I'm just going to give up. lol



Jan 30, 2018 11:12 AM

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Chiibi said:
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Rape is a little more serious than an age gap don't you think?


You're missing the point of what I'm trying to explain entirely.....so I'm just going to give up. lol


I didn't miss anything, but ok.

Jan 30, 2018 1:39 PM

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Chiibi said:
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Scum's Wish? Already watched it. I wasn't uncomfortable once.


Wow.

I think you're in the minority there. :/


Guess I am part of the minority then. Personally I completely agree with Kittens-kun.

Back on topic: if people have a problem with the age gap.. then just.. don't read the manga or watch the anime? I mean I have personal likes and dislike about manga and anime genres as well. I tend to only spend time with series that I like... It's really not that difficult. c:
check out my twitch: https://twitch.tv/slowy
Jan 30, 2018 6:07 PM

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Wow.

I think you're in the minority there. :/


Guess I am part of the minority then. Personally I completely agree with Kittens-kun.

Back on topic: if people have a problem with the age gap.. then just.. don't read the manga or watch the anime? I mean I have personal likes and dislike about manga and anime genres as well. I tend to only spend time with series that I like... It's really not that difficult. c:


I'm not actually watching the series; I'm just discussing the topic of the gap.



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Would you watch an anime about the Holocaust?

Some parts of the original Hagaren / FMA series weren't that far off from that topic. Essentially that Bonnie & Clide-ish alchemist couple tried to draw into a war and mass exterminate a whole nation just to produce the sorcerer's stone, including a sub-thread of racial hatred against the Ishbalan people. So, I'm afraid we could possibly see an anime about the Holocaust, as the japanese do not have the taboo and probably don't even grasp the topic's full significance. If Grossflix or Stony pictures brings the money, they will do it.
Jan 31, 2018 3:19 PM

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after seeing episode 3 i can say for the time being that this is as tasteful a taboo romance can be

Feb 3, 2018 6:20 AM
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I mean, love is love right?
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I mean, love is love right?
I wanna marry my cat, then.
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There are only 48 chapters translated out of 78 and the manga is still ongoing, but after checking out the raws I'm in full support of them ending up together. For the people still crying about the age gap, this series is obviously not for you. Instead of bitching about fictional age gaps, why don't you complain about real ones? How about the president of France having a 25 year age gap with his wife? Or the fact that they started falling in love when he was only 15 years old while she was a married women with a daughter his age? The double standards are ridiculous.
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In like 10 years she's gonna have to deal with that erectile dysfunction.


EXACTLY.

There are just too many problems to count since they're in VERY different periods of their lives.

By the time she is mature enough to raise a family, he will be ready for a senior home.

It's so f*cked up, man. It's not going to work at all.

All he did was give her a coffee and a little cheer-up with it while she was waiting for the rain to pass. How do you fall so madly in love from a thing like that?!?

Rofl okay, I've lost what little respect I've had for Akira just from reading that.

My OTP has a significant gap but they are BOTH still relatively young. Their lives have just started.

But pairing a girl whose life has just started (teen) with an old fart whose life is HALF OVER....just...............nope.

Too many problems, too detached from reality, and too f*cking weird.

For me, anyway.

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Are they protesting because this is shoujo?

No. Shoujo is the best and more tasteful (in the world with a few exceptions)

This is aimed at OLDER MEN, just like the man she's crushing on

That makes it even more disturbing.

Agreed. So.fucking.much.
I see that the most of the men who posted in this thread don't think with their brain, but with their penis.

Story: who doesn't wanna smash a 17-year-old am I right?

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4 episodes in and I havent dropped it.
I cant call this anything else but mazohism at this point. The manager is made to look even more pathetic than in the manga, it hurts to watch :(
Anyone else feeling the same?
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EXACTLY.

There are just too many problems to count since they're in VERY different periods of their lives.

By the time she is mature enough to raise a family, he will be ready for a senior home.

It's so f*cked up, man. It's not going to work at all.


Rofl okay, I've lost what little respect I've had for Akira just from reading that.

My OTP has a significant gap but they are BOTH still relatively young. Their lives have just started.

But pairing a girl whose life has just started (teen) with an old fart whose life is HALF OVER....just...............nope.

Too many problems, too detached from reality, and too f*cking weird.

For me, anyway.


No. Shoujo is the best and more tasteful (in the world with a few exceptions)

This is aimed at OLDER MEN, just like the man she's crushing on

That makes it even more disturbing.

Agreed. So.fucking.much.
I see that the most of the men who posted in this thread don't think with their brain, but with their penis.

Story: who doesn't wanna smash a 17-year-old am I right?


Congratulations on missing the point of the entire story. The main reading demographic of the manga are females not old men. But please, keep making baseless assumptions. And as a side note, yes men do generally want younger woman and 18 is the prime of most females. Being bitter about it isn't going to change that fact.
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Congratulations on missing the point of the entire story. The main reading demographic of the manga are females not old men. But please, keep making baseless assumptions. And as a side note, yes men do generally want younger woman and 18 is the prime of most females. Being bitter about it isn't going to change that fact.

Saying that I missed the point of the story, then adding that side note. Cool story bro.

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Love is free and you choose to love who you want. If she loves him, she loves him-that it, simple. You don't need someone to be good-looking to love him, it's what inside that counts. And I totally agree with them being together 😊
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Age gap relationships can be cute, as long as they’re consensual and they both know what they’re getting into.

Also after reading ahead in the source material for this I can confirm that it’s far from being as dirty or as weird as people think it is.
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From a dominance point of view, yes there's a problem, but since there isn't such thing as a authority figure that abuse of the power, it's ok.
I mean, the whole thing is sweet and tender, their feelings are blooming with them.
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I bet if it was a story about young looking 1000-year old or something no one would care about the age gap, lol.


So true, for most nay-sayers it's about appearance as usual. Not like I don't understand but it's ridiculous when those that think that way act like they got the moral high ground. You don't.
Feb 6, 2018 7:00 AM

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Idk Its kinda cute but at the same time i'm like nooo
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I see the MC is a woman of culture as well.
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I mean, love is love right?
I wanna marry my cat, then.


Quick Gsearch = Um.....(last entry on that list is indeed a cat,) and A doll is fine too?


._.;;; Yeah.... Be careful with sarcasm on the internet. You'd never believe what doesn't work.
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In some parts of Japan, the age of consent is 13 and up. So this really isn't all that weird tbh. Besides, this is a fictional anime, I really don't care. I'm just enjoying the hell out of it because the main girl is super adorable.
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Many people here are just too damn sensitive becouse of all this pedophile witch hunt we have nowadays.

Pedophilia is evil and it's sexual attraction to child not to the teenager after puberty. Naturally when girl is having a period and has traits of her sex developed it's nothing wrong to be attracted to her no matter how big age difference is.

It's completly normal, natural and traditional for wifes to be much younger than husbands. Men are sexually attractive and efficient even for their whole life while women are fertile just when they are young. Men are also burdened with resposibility of providing for the family. So it's obvious that nature works out that way that often mature men, with accumulated wealth and position in society marry young girls. From what I heard from my grandfathers stories avarage age difference in marriage was like 10 years. In this anime we have almost 30 years gap and I agree it's rather too much but still - it's not something one should condamn.
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Many people here are just too damn sensitive becouse of all this pedophile witch hunt we have nowadays.

Pedophilia is evil and it's sexual attraction to child not to the teenager after puberty. Naturally when girl is having a period and has traits of her sex developed it's nothing wrong to be attracted to her no matter how big age difference is.

It's completly normal, natural and traditional for wifes to be much younger than husbands. Men are sexually attractive and efficient even for their whole life while women are fertile just when they are young. Men are also burdened with resposibility of providing for the family. So it's obvious that nature works out that way that often mature men, with accumulated wealth and position in society marry young girls. From what I heard from my grandfathers stories avarage age difference in marriage was like 10 years. In this anime we have almost 30 years gap and I agree it's rather too much but still - it's not something one should condamn.

How old are you? 60? 75? I think the only time I've ever seen someone speak offensively with a straight face was as an ironic joke. This is a joke right? You didn't just try to justify actual pedophilia right?
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So after reading this thread and thinking about it. I had some thoughts on this matter of the Age gap.

I've been meaning to start a youtube channel anyway so instead of type it all out, here is my first video which gives my thoughts on the subject.



https://youtu.be/fk7Wc4JNi1I
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In some parts of Japan, the age of consent is 13 and up. So this really isn't all that weird tbh. Besides, this is a fictional anime, I really don't care. I'm just enjoying the hell out of it because the main girl is super adorable.


Japan has a national baseline of 13yo, but each prefecture (think of them as "states" if that helps since it's somewhat similar) is allowed to set their own laws above that minimum and have unanimously raised the age of consent/marriage to at least match US standards, but their age of majority is actually higher than ours at 20yo. It actually sounds like sexual conduct between unmarried couples is only "safe" if both parties are over 20yo in fact. If you are sober 19yo male and have happy consensual sex with a sober 19yo female, if her parents find out and decide they don't like you and call the cops, then you can be arrested in most prefectures. >_>;;

Anime related conclusion: They need to get married or wait until she's 20 to do anything sexual if Kondou wants to be sure that his ass stays out of jail. XD
TBH, I almost get the feeling that the author made her 17 in order to put an extra roadblock in front of them having a sexual relationship. This story is a lot more attractive w/o worrying about Kondou going the Dirty Old Man route. lol

Serious question: How many of you would be spazzing out if her age was raised to 18 on her character sheet? How about 20 and her school renamed to a college? Would those 1-3yrs make a big enough dent in the age gap to make it more acceptable, even if it became unquestionably legal?
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I didint mind the age gap , and strangely i felt attracted to this anime even if i rarely watch romance.i had a hard time forcing to watch the 1st episode but when i did i really love it But its true that this age gap could be a problem for most ppl. I offer this anime to my friend and he said its gross for a 17 y.o teenage to like an old man. So its not for ppl who like the usual young lovey dovey couples
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maybe because i really can relate this anime to some levels lol, i kind of know that feelings of akira's emotion to him
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"He could be her dad" a lot of people are saying. Why not "he could be her brother" if they were the same age?

This is an interesting anime so far anyway.
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