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It seems science has made Anime real.

ANIME IS GOING TO BE REAL.

In a remarkable—if likely controversial—feat, scientists announced today that they have created the first successful human-animal hybrids. The project proves that human cells can be introduced into a non-human organism, survive, and even grow inside a host animal, in this case, pigs.

This biomedical advance has long been a dream and a quandary for scientists hoping to address a critical shortage of donor organs.

Every ten minutes, a person is added to the national waiting list for organ transplants. And every day, 22 people on that list die without the organ they need. What if, rather than relying on a generous donor, you could grow a custom organ inside an animal instead?

That’s now one step closer to reality, an international team of researchers led by the Salk Institute reports in the journal Cell. The team created what’s known scientifically as a chimera: an organism that contains cells from two different species. (Read more about the DNA revolution in National Geographic magazine.)

In the past, human-animal chimeras have been beyond reach. Such experiments are currently ineligible for public funding in the United States (so far, the Salk team has relied on private donors for the chimera project). Public opinion, too, has hampered the creation of organisms that are part human, part animal.

But for lead study author Jun Wu of the Salk Institute, we need only look to mythical chimeras—like the human-bird hybrids we know as angels—for a different perspective.

“In ancient civilizations, chimeras were associated with God,” he says, and our ancestors thought “the chimeric form can guard humans.” In a sense, that’s what the team hopes human-animal hybrids will one day do.

BUILDING A CHIMERA
There are two ways to make a chimera. The first is to introduce the organs of one animal into another—a risky proposition, because the host’s immune system may cause the organ to be rejected.

The other method is to begin at the embryonic level, introducing one animal’s cells into the embryo of another and letting them grow together into a hybrid.

It sounds weird, but it’s an ingenious way to eventually solve a number of vexing biological problems with lab-grown organs.

When scientists discovered stem cells, the master cells that can produce any kind of body tissue, they seemed to contain infinite scientific promise. But convincing those cells to grow into the right kinds of tissues and organs is difficult.

Cells must survive in Petri dishes. Scientists have to use scaffolds to make sure the organs grow into the right shapes. And often, patients must undergo painful and invasive procedures to harvest the tissues needed to kick off the process.

At first, Juan Carlos Izpisua Belmonte, a professor in the Salk Institute’s Gene Expression Laboratory, thought the concept of using a host embryo to grow organs seemed straightforward enough. However, it took Belmonte and more than 40 collaborators four years to figure out how to make a human-animal chimera.

To do so, the team piggybacked off prior chimera research conducted on mice and rats.

Other scientists had already figured out how to grow the pancreatic tissue of a rat inside a mouse. On Wednesday, that team announced that mouse pancreases grown inside rats successfully treated diabetes when parts of the healthy organs were transplanted into diseased mice.

The Salk-led group took the concept one step further, using the genome editing tool called CRISPR to hack into mouse blastocysts—the precursors of embryos. There, they deleted genes that mice need to grow certain organs. When they introduced rat stem cells capable of producing those organs, those cells flourished.

The mice that resulted managed to live into adulthood. Some even grew gall bladders, which haven’t been part of the species for 18 million years.

REJECTION RISK
The team then took stem cells from rats and injected them into pig blastocysts. This version failed—not surprisingly, since rats and pigs have dramatically different gestation times and evolutionary ancestors.

But pigs have a notable similarity to humans. Though they take less time to gestate, their organs look a lot like ours.

Not that these similarities made the task any easier. The team discovered that, in order to introduce human cells into the pigs without killing them, they had to get the timing just right.

“We tried three different types of human cells, essentially representing three different times” in the developmental process, explains Jun Wu, a Salk Institute scientist and the paper’s first author. Through trial and error, they learned that naïve pluripotent cells—stem cells with unlimited potential—didn’t survive as well as ones that had developed a bit more.

When those just-right human cells were injected into the pig embryos, the embryos survived. Then they were put into adult pigs, which carried the embryos for between three and four weeks before they were removed and analyzed.

In all, the team created 186 later-stage chimeric embryos that survived, says Wu, and “we estimate [each had] about one in 100,000 human cells.”

That’s a low percentage—and it could present a problem for the method in the long run, says Ke Cheng, a stem cell expert at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and North Carolina State University.

The human tissue appears to slow the growth of the embryo, notes Cheng, and organs grown from such embryos as they develop now would likely be rejected by humans, since they would contain so much pig tissue.

The next big step, says Cheng, is to figure out whether it's possible to increase the number of human cells the embryos can tolerate. The current method is a start, but it still isn't clear if that hurdle can be overcome.

Belmonte agrees, noting that it could take years to use the process to create functioning human organs. The technique could be put to use much sooner as a way to study human embryo development and understand disease. And those real-time insights could be just as valuable as the ability to grow an organ.

Even at this early stage, Cheng calls the work a breakthrough: “There are other steps to take,” he concedes. “But it’s intriguing. Very intriguing.”





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Jan 26, 2017 11:53 AM
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Duke Nukem tried to warn us about the Pig Cops, we didn't listen. Science has went too far.
Jan 26, 2017 11:54 AM
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RedArmyShogun said:
Duke Nukem tried to warn us about the Pig Cops, we didn't listen. Science has went too far.
We'll finally have cat girls, Shogun.

Who cares about anything else?




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Jan 26, 2017 11:56 AM
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Immahnoob said:
RedArmyShogun said:
Duke Nukem tried to warn us about the Pig Cops, we didn't listen. Science has went too far.
We'll finally have cat girls, Shogun.

Who cares about anything else?


Nyan desu, no more need to deal with feminists.
Jan 26, 2017 12:00 PM
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Catgirls are still part human. I'm more excited for android girls.
Jan 26, 2017 12:02 PM
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Narmy said:
Catgirls are still part human. I'm more excited for android girls.
OR even better, cat girls with chips implanted for extra loyalty.




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Jan 26, 2017 12:56 PM
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Jan 26, 2017 12:58 PM
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Immahnoob said:
https://archive.is/9TqEa
It seems science has made Anime real.

ANIME IS GOING TO BE REAL.



for real tho, i'm out of pig cartridge

http://sciencenewsjournal.com/human-skin-can-now-printed-3d-bio-printer/
I am the harem MC
Jan 26, 2017 1:00 PM
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This is terrifying, we as a human race are only a few steps away from creating manbearpig.
half man, half bear, half pig.
Jan 26, 2017 1:06 PM
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waiting for cat girls

skimming on that article shows that this tech is mainly for organ replacement so they will only laboratory create those organs without the brain right? you do not want to go the immoral route of creating conscious life that is just disposable
Jan 26, 2017 1:22 PM

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This has been done before years ago. Also with rabbits too and one other animal I forgot.
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Jan 26, 2017 1:28 PM

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We must further our research. You wouldn't want to disappoint this little girl would you?
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traed said:
This has been done before years ago. Also with rabbits too and one other animal I forgot.

You are a buzzkill Traed... So no cat girls then ;-;
Jan 26, 2017 1:50 PM

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I tried to warn you guys about Man Bear Pig and you didn't believe me but I'm super cereal.

Jan 26, 2017 6:12 PM

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traed said:
This has been done before years ago. Also with rabbits too and one other animal I forgot.
"First successful" are two keywords that most likely were missing from the first time this was done.
Thrashinuva said:
We must further our research. You wouldn't want to disappoint this little girl would you?
Oh, it's that girl that is great at doggy style.




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Jan 26, 2017 7:46 PM

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"Human stem cells were injected into young pig embryos, which were then placed in surrogate cows. Of the more than 2,000 embryos, only 186 turned into chimeras – largely pig, with human elements in 1 out of 10,000 cells."


It says largely pig, curious what the unlisted ones were from, though this research strikes me more of the grounds of "Should we?"
Jan 26, 2017 7:59 PM

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Does that mean we can expect a live action adaptation of Porco Rosso?
Jan 26, 2017 8:30 PM

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sold atempt w/ animals liek chimpansee bc close dna to human
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Jan 26, 2017 8:56 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Narmy said:
Catgirls are still part human. I'm more excited for android girls.
OR even better, cat girls with chips implanted for extra loyalty.


That sounds dangerous though, Armored Core and Front Mission tell you that putting things like microchips in the brain can have irreversible side effects.


Jan 26, 2017 9:51 PM

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Wait... Why is it not cat-ear female?!

This is shit...

I'm out...
Jan 26, 2017 9:57 PM

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But what will it taste like?
Jan 26, 2017 10:10 PM

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One of the points made by the article was that pigs and humans already have similar organ and genetic structures, and cells from organisms that were to genetically dissimilar were rejected by the body. The whole reality of "catgirls" relies on the genetic similarity between cats and humans. I've heard that cats and humans share similar X/Y chromosome structures, but if anyone can bring in some other sources, it would really shed some light on this issue.

Even if cats and humans were biologically comparable enough, I have high doubts that "catgirls" will ever be produced. First of all, the article has a heavy focus on " to study human embryo development and understand disease" and to grow organs for donation. Second, since catgirls are a very specific fetish and would be incredibly costly to make, the market for them would probably go under very quickly. If such a market did manage to succeed, it's likely that only the rich would be able to afford them. Not only would you have to take the cost of creating a catgirl into consideration (nevermind the issue of defects), but the care and maintenance of them would also be problematic. Since the ideal catgirl would maintain a wide variety of aspects of the human psyche, their psychological development would probably have to be monitored closely. If the catgirls end up resembling more like mentally retarded humans, their development would need even more attention and money put in. Not to mention the cost of specialized food; it'd be like paying for a regular human child at this point. Third, the premise of "owning" catgirls would likely turn out to be a moral/social issue, including whether or not they deserve rights and if they can be considered "people". I'd imagine this would result in catgirls being highly regulated by the government, especially if they became more psychologically advanced.

If you guys were joking about the whole catgirl thing, then sorry for going off like a philistine cunt.
Jan 26, 2017 11:41 PM

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Immahnoob said:
traed said:
This has been done before years ago. Also with rabbits too and one other animal I forgot.
"First successful" are two keywords that most likely were missing from the first time this was done.

The other times also were successful. Im not sure if this stepped it up somehow to a further stage or what
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Can we please not make mutant abominations in labs please.
Jan 27, 2017 3:08 AM

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lol tread immetaitely into catgrils. unfortunately is wold only cause
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mutant abominations
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if ppls rely desire animu catgrils into rl, then only throuh physical modificaton in future maybe.

Jan 27, 2017 3:20 AM

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You can say whatever you want if your name is Juan Carlos Izpisua Belmonte and I'll trust you with my life.

Can't wait till a bunch of horny dudes start demanding their cats to be made into catgirls.
Jan 27, 2017 3:42 AM

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Weird, I thought the human-pigs were already among us
Jan 27, 2017 5:10 AM

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Hoppy said:
Immahnoob said:
OR even better, cat girls with chips implanted for extra loyalty.


That sounds dangerous though, Armored Core and Front Mission tell you that putting things like microchips in the brain can have irreversible side effects.
Armored Core and Front Mission are games.
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Immahnoob said:
"First successful" are two keywords that most likely were missing from the first time this was done.

The other times also were successful. Im not sure if this stepped it up somehow to a further stage or what
The article mentions the two words "first successful", so I'm going to assume your case was successful in finding a way to do it but not testing it or some shit.




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Jan 27, 2017 8:19 AM

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Good job archiving a page that uses javascript for everything
Now you can't see any of the images

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science/
Jan 27, 2017 8:35 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
We must further our research. You wouldn't want to disappoint this little girl would you?

HAHHAHA, but I seriously think it is kinda wrong :c
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Momono said:
Good job archiving a page that uses javascript for everything
Now you can't see any of the images

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science/
There's the original link on the archive site itself.

I've already given clicks to National Geographic after their SJW bullshit, I'd rather them not gain more money from clicks.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
Jan 27, 2017 12:24 PM

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That just screams "haram." I guess people excited by cat ears on girls will remain expectant though. They would receive more donations if they started from there.
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Jan 27, 2017 12:26 PM

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If catgirls irl existed it wouldn't be special anymore in anime. So no.
Jan 27, 2017 2:52 PM

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I will forgive trump for everything and give him my full support if he makes anime real.
Jan 27, 2017 4:02 PM

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Why don't they do something cool for once and genetically engineer a dragon already instead of creepy human hybrids...
Jan 28, 2017 8:51 AM

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By the time cat girls are made.
You would be too old to fuck them.
It would be statutory rape.
They would have the mind of a child.
If you even think of saying "It's ok because they would make them adults"
Then your fucking disgusting.
Jan 28, 2017 9:28 AM

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ChrisHanson said:
Then your fucking disgusting.
You're fucking disgusting.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
Jan 28, 2017 9:35 AM

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Immahnoob said:
ChrisHanson said:
Then your fucking disgusting.
You're fucking disgusting.

Why?Because I destroyed your dreams of performing bestiality with a furry?
Jan 28, 2017 9:42 AM

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ChrisHanson said:
Immahnoob said:
You're fucking disgusting.

Why?Because I destroyed your dreams of performing bestiality with a furry?
You're not even able to properly write in English, if anything, the only thing you destroyed was everyone's last impression of you that was positive, if that was ever a thing.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Jan 28, 2017 9:44 AM

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Money and power can make most men of pigs, hard science is the guiding pole for a more real narrative.
Jan 28, 2017 9:47 AM
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This reminds me of the homunculus



It's so fucking kek :D:D:D
Jan 28, 2017 9:50 AM

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Immahnoob said:
ChrisHanson said:

Why?Because I destroyed your dreams of performing bestiality with a furry?
You're not even able to properly write in English, if anything, the only thing you destroyed was everyone's last impression of you that was positive, if that was ever a thing.

So you'd want to take advantage of somebody without a brain?
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ChrisHanson said:
Immahnoob said:
You're not even able to properly write in English, if anything, the only thing you destroyed was everyone's last impression of you that was positive, if that was ever a thing.

So you'd want to take advantage of somebody without a brain?
You have some fucked up fantasies, Hanson.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Immahnoob said:
ChrisHanson said:

So you'd want to take advantage of somebody without a brain?
You have some fucked up fantasies, Hanson.

Like what?Just tell me i'm curious.
Jan 28, 2017 1:18 PM

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That'll do Piggly, That'll do.
Jan 30, 2017 8:45 AM

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I see what you did there, mr scientisto ^^



I can't belive how many pics I found when I wrote this into the google
Feb 1, 2017 5:17 AM

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We've been transplanting with pig's heart valves for years until better valves arrived. That was also a chimera.
Feb 1, 2017 9:48 AM

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Is it me or the pictures in the link do not work/show?
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