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Dec 9, 2016 7:50 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Wow Josuke is pissed lol, not that I'm surprised after everything that happened.

Pretty exciting episode. The fight against began against Kira!

Glad to see they adapted the violence and the mind games coming from Kira continues. As my favorite antagonist in this series, I thought they captured his personality quite well even when faced up against multiple enemies. A shoutout also to Koichi for being such a brave kid.

Stark700Dec 9, 2016 7:59 AM
Dec 9, 2016 9:49 AM
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the season is near to end...but i don´t want to finish... another great-mega episode!!!
Dec 9, 2016 10:04 AM
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Killer Queen lowkey best pokemon trainer in Morioh
Dec 9, 2016 10:17 AM
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Hayato is so much better than Poco, Smokey, and Anne put together that it's not even funny.

I also love how Kira gets caught because of his long-established habit of speaking about himself in the third person.
Dec 9, 2016 10:18 AM
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And i thought they'll go full out with these episodes. The animation is terrible.
The final of SC shits over this. And yes even with Dios faces. I'm honestly interested how DP is dividing their budget. By that I mean even the unimportant episodes (rat one for example) were better animated.
Besides the animation it also feels weirdly paced. Maybe because the low quality animation was distracting.
NycroDec 9, 2016 10:35 AM
Dec 9, 2016 10:26 AM
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The poor animation is getting really annoying.
Dec 9, 2016 10:35 AM
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Great battle huge amount of mind games and strategies. The battle felt like chess game.

This Hayato kid is amazing for a non-stand user, he came up with a good strategy to expose Kira and find a chink in bites. Hayato also pretty much guided Josuke during the battle if Hayato wasn't there Joskue could've been killed. Hayato is so bold that he was willing to be blown up to save Okuyasu.

Dec 9, 2016 10:35 AM
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Jojo's Bizarre adventure: Budget is breakable by D̶a̶v̶i̶d̶ Duwang Productions.
I wouldn't mind shit like this for the other stand of the week episodes but this is the Josuke vs Kira finale god fucking dammit.
Kira fucks himself over again by revealing his name out in the open, what a genius.
The blood looks so damn cheaply drawn lately and it's not just this anime.
Drake1000Dec 9, 2016 10:40 AM
Dec 9, 2016 10:41 AM
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I got the chills when Josuke appeared behind Kira. I was impressed again by Hayato's guts.
Dec 9, 2016 11:04 AM
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Hayato is the real MVP. Killer Queen teamed with Stray Cat is pretty badass.
Dec 9, 2016 11:20 AM
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Did anyone notice the changes in the ED? When the ED is about to end i.e when images of Josuke and Kira flashes one after the other, a turtle (or tortoise) is shown with Josuke and the cat with Kira. What does it mean?
Dec 9, 2016 11:22 AM

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lol, people complaining about animation issues, but I look to those Killer Queen menacing shots and I cum a lot, damn son, this episode was pretty awesome
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes."
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Dec 9, 2016 11:36 AM

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Killer queen looks much more menacing evil than before and I'm liking it

It had some Duwang moments but still a great episode nonetheless
Dec 9, 2016 11:42 AM

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I mean sure the animation suffered a bit. But when u think about it JoJo is all about close ups and zooming into peoples faces to show their emotion and stuff like that. So yeah all the close ups are still high quality and u still get all the feels u get from the series. I'm still satisfied and for sure hype for the blurays.
Dec 9, 2016 11:59 AM

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Great episode.Kira screwed up once again and got found out.Josuke and Okuyasu couldn't take him down though.Great fight and strategies this week.Two episodes remaining.
Dec 9, 2016 12:00 PM

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Good Episode, but I kinda missed Kira-senseis bizarre math lesson

Dec 9, 2016 12:03 PM
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Nycro said:
And i thought they'll go full out with these episodes. The animation is terrible.
The final of SC shits over this. And yes even with Dios faces. I'm honestly interested how DP is dividing their budget. By that I mean even the unimportant episodes (rat one for example) were better animated.
Besides the animation it also feels weirdly paced. Maybe because the low quality animation was distracting.


The rat episode was properly animated because it was entirely done by a single guy, one single person animated the whole episode, that's why the animation was consistent.
Dec 9, 2016 12:11 PM
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Okocha119 said:
Meanwhile Koichi, Rohan and Jotaro are still standing like 30 feet away without noticing a thing, including the multiple explosions and people screaming at the top of their voice.

The rain sounds like Josuke's voice? Has Jotaro gone braindead between episodes?


Killer Queen bomb are silent they make no sound
Dec 9, 2016 12:35 PM

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Maybe Rohan, Jotaro and Koichi left to chill at a coffee shop not long after meeting because they ought to have gotten involved.

thewatcher974 said:
Okocha119 said:
Meanwhile Koichi, Rohan and Jotaro are still standing like 30 feet away without noticing a thing, including the multiple explosions and people screaming at the top of their voice.

The rain sounds like Josuke's voice? Has Jotaro gone braindead between episodes?


Killer Queen bomb are silent they make no sound
Nonsense. I could hear them just fine.
Dec 9, 2016 12:52 PM

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Nycro said:
And i thought they'll go full out with these episodes. The animation is terrible.
The final of SC shits over this. And yes even with Dios faces. I'm honestly interested how DP is dividing their budget. By that I mean even the unimportant episodes (rat one for example) were better animated.
Besides the animation it also feels weirdly paced. Maybe because the low quality animation was distracting.
RagingMan said:
The poor animation is getting really annoying.

I'll say it again - this is a late-night show (limited viewership = lack of revenue) of three straight cours w/ no breaks whatsoever (not to mention this is DP who isn't particularly known for fluidity). It is still more fluid than season 1, and has overall better/more-creative directorial choices (stylization) than Stardust Crusaders
ShigyCDec 9, 2016 1:00 PM
Always remember that anime is a niche medium in Japan. Manga sells way better
Dec 9, 2016 12:53 PM

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Really dude??????????????????????????????????
It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on.
Dec 9, 2016 1:04 PM

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Honestly if you try it's easy to ignore the QUALITY in this episode and enjoy the fight itself, which was great. It still kinda bugs me the fucking rat gets better animation than the finale. Hopefully the other episodes are better.
Dec 9, 2016 1:06 PM

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Would Killer Queen have been better without the time loop
cause you know? After the explosion, done.


I'm asking for too much there because Kira would be OP

Oh man just 2 more episodes,
no more chew




It's just irritating that DP didn't change the ED
at all, while the OP has been changed several times.
They could have used songs "Killer Queen" and "Another
One Bites the Dust" by Queen. But oh well, using those
songs will cost DP a lot of money.

Dec 9, 2016 1:07 PM

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i dont think ppl know what bad animation/art is....if they did they would have complained for the other parts

looks like barely anyone here remembers part 1 and the mess that was

ya and dont get me started on dio vs jotaro

please stop talking nonsense all of u its embarrassing
Dec 9, 2016 1:33 PM
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gedata said:
Maybe Rohan, Jotaro and Koichi left to chill at a coffee shop not long after meeting because they ought to have gotten involved.

thewatcher974 said:


Killer Queen bomb are silent they make no sound
Nonsense. I could hear them just fine.


They ARE silent, DP just gave them a sound effect to make them feel more powerful, just like how they add different sound effects to the stands when being summoned.
Dec 9, 2016 1:35 PM

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moodie said:
i dont think ppl know what bad animation/art is....if they did they would have complained for the other parts

looks like barely anyone here remembers part 1 and the mess that was

ya and dont get me started on dio vs jotaro

please stop talking nonsense all of u its embarrassing


The irony is strong.
Dec 9, 2016 1:36 PM

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Things aren't looking too good for Okuyasu.
Hayato almost disappeared there.
Dec 9, 2016 1:37 PM
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PK777 said:
It's just irritating that DP didn't change the ED
at all, while the OP has been changed several times.


David Productions have never changed the ending in during seasons, all 4 seasons the anime has so far have the same ending from start to finish:

Season 1: Roundabout
Season 2: Walk like an egyptian
Season 3: Last train home
Season 4: I want you

Season 5 will probably have only 1 ending too.
Dec 9, 2016 1:42 PM

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I don't know, aside from a couple of zoomed out shots, I think the animation was just fine.
The majority of the close-up shots were amazing(especially Killer Queen).
It's a shame that they didn't include the part where Kira calculate the distance between him and Josuke, though.
Dec 9, 2016 1:43 PM

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Two things I'm kinda annoyed about.
Rather disappointed by the lack of math in this episode.

I don't know why they couldn't have left it in. It kinda screws with a bit of the foreshadowing at the end of Chase, at least that's how I always saw that.
Also we didn't get a shot that allows someone to recreate this

Aside from that I'd say it was an okay episode. I may have built up my expectations a bit higher by finally deciding to read ahead in the manga, but it was okay.
Dec 9, 2016 1:45 PM
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The art isn't nearly as bad as some people are saying. Some of the zoomed out characters did lack some detailing, but close-ups were great for most of the time. I mean, Dio vs. Jotaro had the same issue too (broadcast version). I had no issues with the art quality honestly.

But what I didn't like is that they skipped Kira using trigonometry and ratios to measure distances. Oh well, that's not too bad I guess :/

But everything else was great and the OST and voice acting was top notch again. As most people have realized by now, PArt 4's final fight is more about strategy that pure strength (more like Part 2 than Part 3, even though Dio vs. Jotaro had some slight strategy too it). Hayato has some balls to trigger the bomb and trust Josuke to fix him. Also, it was smart of him to call Josuke. Things aren't looking too god for Okuyasu though.

5 chapters adapted, and next episode will most likely adapt another 5 chapters with the last episode doing 4 chapters.

5/5
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Dec 9, 2016 1:47 PM

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Kira so strong dammit. There sure were a lot of plot twists here. Starting off with Kira's watch protecting him, then Josuke appearing right when Kira said his name, then Kira hiding the cat plant in his Killer Queen Suddenly, then Okuyasu dying. Wow what an episode. But how far are Rohan, Jotaro and Koichi standing? Wasn't Hayato screaming at the top of his lungs every now and then? Wasn't Kira slammed into a wall? Wasn't Josuke screaming? Why can't they hear them?

The best scene this episode was where Josuke kicks Kira in the face while falling and says "dora." That was so god damn badass. I wonder if Crazy Diamond will get an upgrade like Killer Queen got one.
Dec 9, 2016 1:53 PM

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Nycro said:
moodie said:
i dont think ppl know what bad animation/art is....if they did they would have complained for the other parts

looks like barely anyone here remembers part 1 and the mess that was

ya and dont get me started on dio vs jotaro

please stop talking nonsense all of u its embarrassing


The irony is strong.
its okay when u watch more anime ull be annoyed by stupid comments
Dec 9, 2016 2:05 PM

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Even though he knew Crazy Diamond would be able to fix him, Hayato has some serious guts to throw himself in the way of a Killer Queen explosion. It's such a shame he never became a Stand user, with a will like that I can only imagine what kind of ability he'd obtain.

While the animation was wonky in places, it was still pretty great where it counted and the close up frames of characters looked fantastic. It's not that big of a deal and I'm sure they're going all out for the next two episodes (also only two episodes left! Where does the time go?).
Dec 9, 2016 2:09 PM

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whos in charge of this ep's storyboard. man that's so bad.
Dec 9, 2016 2:15 PM

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HigashikataJojo said:

They ARE silent, DP just gave them a sound effect to make them feel more powerful, just like how they add different sound effects to the stands when being summoned.


They clearly sound like loud bangs. There hasn't been any indication that everyone can't hear stands being summoned either.
Dec 9, 2016 2:21 PM

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Please dont be dead Okuyasu...
Dec 9, 2016 2:21 PM

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People don't seem to understand how difficult animation is to produce. It is very costly and they are crunched for time, what with having it scheduled as 3 continuous cours instead of 4 with a break like Part 3 was.

David isn't a huge studio like A1 Pictures of KyoAni, so they have to be smart about how they handle things. BD release might see improvements, as is typical in anime, but as others have said, the close up shots are quite impressive.

This has been a damn good adaptation. You'll find those QUALITY shots in basically every anime, so just calm down, people.
Dec 9, 2016 2:58 PM

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Really dude??????????????????????????????????

Me after this scene.
Dec 9, 2016 3:02 PM

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wow Hayato have some big balls to act like that
Dec 9, 2016 3:02 PM

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The episode has some quality shots in some scenes, but it was good and not something to make a fuss, specially since it will be probably fixed in the BDs.

About the actual content of the episode, I liked this first part of the fight. We have in Kira and Josuke two oponnents who basically counter each other's ability (Kira blows up things, while Josuke can repair them), who made the battle more balanced than the other final fights of the series, thus making it also more interesting, since it's basically a battle of who can outsmart his enemy first. Smart move of Kira's part using Stray Cat to balance Killer Queen.

And the respect for Hayato is increasing each episode he appears. After his performance the previous episode, now not only he called Josuke to fight Kira, but was willing to sacrifice himself just to eliminate the bomb in Okuyasu. He is the MVP of this half of DiU.

I hope Okuyasu is not dead, I have the hope if he would be dead for good, the series would have at least gave him a proper "demise" like happened with Ceasar, Kakyoin, Shigechi and others.
Jotaro, Rohan and Koichi are also confirmed to be deaf as a wall.

Btw, that "dora" when Josuke kicks Kira was really satisfying to hear.

I'm also in love with this lovely smug Killer Queen:
Dec 9, 2016 3:14 PM

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lol ikr Jotaro , the rain really sounds like Josuke voice :^)
Dec 9, 2016 3:14 PM
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The entire group is there, yet no-one calls for them. Obvious plot armour is obvious.
Dec 9, 2016 3:15 PM

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Funny how all of us were complaning when Killer Queen was showed with the "duwang face" and now DaPro gives us the most amazing close ups of the stand (to be honest, at least in this chapter,it looks better than the manga)
Dec 9, 2016 3:43 PM
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gedata said:
HigashikataJojo said:

They ARE silent, DP just gave them a sound effect to make them feel more powerful, just like how they add different sound effects to the stands when being summoned.


They clearly sound like loud bangs. There hasn't been any indication that everyone can't hear stands being summoned either.


and there are no indications the explosions make a sound either, it's being heavily hinted over and over that they are silent even in the anime when kira made that woman in her department explode, we hear the click, but not the explosion.
Dec 9, 2016 3:43 PM

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best scene this season i was literally shaking
Dec 9, 2016 4:04 PM

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David Productions have never changed the ending in during seasons, all 4 seasons the anime has so far have the same ending from start to finish:

Season 1: Roundabout
Season 2: Walk like an egyptian
Season 3: Last train home
Season 4: I want you

Season 5 will probably have only 1 ending too.


Welp I'm just being an unreasonable fan here
Don't get me wrong I like this song by Savage Garden
but I kind of wanted a change in ED around halfway
of the season. Especially those songs that I've mentioned
will intensify the what's going on in Morioh.
Part 5, I wonder what song will represent early 2000's?
Dec 9, 2016 4:07 PM
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grotesque_figure said:
The entire group is there, yet no-one calls for them. Obvious plot armour is obvious.

They have no idea that they are there.
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Roccomcwhip said:
grotesque_figure said:
The entire group is there, yet no-one calls for them. Obvious plot armour is obvious.

They have no idea that they are there.




In the previous episode, they said they were meeting up, so they both knew when (notice how he says he is late) and where the group would arrive.

Hayato knew because time was repeated for him. He also could have called Rohan over when he looked over.
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Dec 9, 2016 4:24 PM

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moodie said:
i dont think ppl know what bad animation/art is....if they did they would have complained for the other parts

looks like barely anyone here remembers part 1 and the mess that was

ya and dont get me started on dio vs jotaro

please stop talking nonsense all of u its embarrassing
More people need a Lesson from the Canipa Effect, they still think animation is mainly based on "budget"
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