| The question should be how much can fan service decrease your score? |
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| To be honest the best thing Fan service can do is decrease my score i would never give a better score just because of fan service.. |
| 10/10 if it has fanservice. Sonoshee from Redline has niceeee titties |
| Fanservice in general, not just ecchi that everyone categorizes it solely to be, can up my score and will rarely down it. In most cases, it's just a added bonus. |
| 99 times out of 100, fanservice is a negative, not a positive. If I want tits, I'll just watch porn--shoehorning tits into a show without good reason is an irrefutable sign of either laziness or desperation. |
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| it can increase it by -4. Sometimes even by -6. Cool, amirite? |
| I dont think i would increase a show's score if the fanservice was good, but i would decrease it if affected negatively. |
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| Well, I'm gonna say Freezing simply bcos I saw the 2nd season completely censored, as in beam of light censoring on every ecchi scene, ofc I would've preferred it if it was uncensored but it manged to entertain me enough with the ecchi stuff being heavily restricted and it has my most hated character of all time I don't think it really raise my score though given that I didn't really care that much when it was gone and I just continued on with the series |
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| If there is too much i will decrease one point. |
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| PS: all anime is fan service and all anime panders. |
| All shows that have a sexy character design get extra points for that, if that counts. I don't like it when the camera lingers on it, but Freezing would've lost a point if its characters weren't so darn sexy. |
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cwtgcheese said: PS: all anime is fan service and all anime panders. Being dense and obtuse isn't cute, you know. |
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Zelkiiro said: cwtgcheese said: PS: all anime is fan service and all anime panders. Being dense and obtuse isn't cute, you know. I'm sorry, you're right. Those words can only have one meaning. |
It offers a cheap laugh at times not too extreme though. |
| Fan service sucks, except in sports. The only 'general' genre, where I (can) accept it. |
| Fan service for the sake of fan service always lowers the score. Tasteful fan service used sparingly prevents a score drop. Every series I watch starts with a score of 10 - there are only decrements, not increments. |
| I don't really tak fanservice into consideration when I rate an anime, unless it's an ecchi cause then that would be the whole point of the show. So plus points for ecchi anime and for the rest it doesn't count. |
| I'd say maybe +1 rating if it was hot enough or really amusing but no more than that. |
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| I found Nisemonogatari to be borderline garbage due to the sheer amount of fanservice and Araragi's attitude toward women getting my nerves-- definitely the worst Monogatari I've seen thus far-- so I don't really see where you're coming from there. The only time I recall (ecchi) fanservice being a plus was the first episode of Shokugeki no Souma, where the sheer absurdity of it made me laugh. Other than that, it's been neutral at best. Action fanservice is also hard to place; I suppose a couple HxH battles were particularly satisfying and may have contributed to a score increase. I very much apppreciated the battles in Katanagatari as well, although that was just as much for the purpose they served as it was their "face value", so I'm not aure if that would count... One Punch Man definitely counts since I literally only gave it a decent score because of the sheer amount of sakuga eye candy in the fight scenes; the story was uninteresting overall and the comedy was mostly a miss. Speaking of which, comedy is probably the form of fanservice that would be most likely to increase my ratings amongst fanservices. It had a very tangible impact on my rating of Angel Beats!, and Sunohara's comedic contributions to Clannad factored positively. |
| @merryfistmas did you have to? i guess im gonna be the only one in this thread whos not like WHEN IT'S DONE RIGHT whatever the fuck that means.... but i think you know my answer well i guess a couple heroes are in here.... fuck everyone else( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Mamster-P said: Dis I have to what? very few people in the thread have said that, I know your answer, but if you can be a bit more specific that'd be great.@merryfistmas did you have to? i guess im gonna be the only one in this thread whos not like WHEN IT'S DONE RIGHT"" whatever the fuck that means.... but i think you know my answer |
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| Why would fan service hinder the experience? I never got that. I can only see fan service hindering the experience if it destroyed a romantic mood for example. I don't see how adding some ass shot would totally destroy someones anime experience. If it destroys the mood, that's the writers fault. Blaming it on every fan service moment is like blaming forced romance on all romance. The Conclusion: Fan Service shouldn't be known as a bad thing. Fan Service doesn't add to the story either. It's just a bonus which shouldn't affect the overall score. |
| @Nagitoxhxc, but if it hinders or increases enjoyment, would that effect they score? |
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| Depends if it works. in a anime like prison school it works in an anime like fairytail its just forced |
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| @merryfistmas do a weekly fanservice thread? i thought i scared everyone away from doing it.... Nagitoxhxc said: Why would fan service hinder the experience? I never got that. I can only see fan service hindering the experience if it destroyed a romantic mood for example. I don't see how adding some ass shot would totally destroy someones anime experience. If it destroys the mood, that's the writers fault. Blaming it on every fan service moment is like blaming forced romance on all romance. The Conclusion: Fan Service shouldn't be known as a bad thing. Fan Service doesn't add to the story either. It's just a bonus which shouldn't affect the overall score. ive tried to say this 100x but.... you know this site.... it like people don't understand that being distracted is a personal problem as there are many people who don't find it distracting.... "theres a sexy pair of tits/an ass in my face, fuck this anime, its been ruined" WHAT THE FUCK? i don't get it and i never will... seems so fucking fake... |
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| although the welldone fanservice is a like eyecandy, it doesnt make the show, so for how much points Id take away on an arbitrary scale from 1 to 5, Id say not that much |
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Mamster-P said: Dude, calm down, I made a thread asking for positive experiences of fan service, which seems like something you'd want, and very few people in the thread have said anything similar to your hyperbolic statements.@merryfistmas do a weekly fanservice thread? i thought i scared everyone away from doing it.... Nagitoxhxc said: Why would fan service hinder the experience? I never got that. I can only see fan service hindering the experience if it destroyed a romantic mood for example. I don't see how adding some ass shot would totally destroy someones anime experience. If it destroys the mood, that's the writers fault. Blaming it on every fan service moment is like blaming forced romance on all romance. The Conclusion: Fan Service shouldn't be known as a bad thing. Fan Service doesn't add to the story either. It's just a bonus which shouldn't affect the overall score. ive tried to say this 100x but.... you know this site.... it like people don't understand that being distracted is a personal problem as there are many people who don't find it distracting.... "theres a sexy pair of tits/an ass in my face, fuck this anime, its been ruined" WHAT THE FUCK? i don't get it and i never will... seems so fucking fake... |
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merryfistmas said: @Nagitoxhxc, but if it hinders or increases enjoyment, would that effect they score? It all depends on how big of a disruption or harmony it had. Most of the times, one accidental boob grab ruining the perfect lead in for the kiss will be quite disappointing. But will it really be that big of a deal overall? Will that one beach episode really raise your score for the show or even lower your score? I'd say it should only affect your score if it consistently does what it does (Either good or bad) For instance. Monogatari does it perfectly in my honest opinion. In my view, I WOULD consider giving it an extra score. (Albeit I'm probably gonna give it a 10 without this consideration when I add it to my list one day) Conclusion #2: Fan Service shouldn't be known as a bad thing. Fan Service doesn't add to the story either. It's just a bonus which shouldn't affect the overall score unless it's done consistently (Good or Bad) |
| @merryfistmas these kinds of threads give people a window to bash ecchi.... which is bait for me.... plus uh... the people who agree with me are almost never in these threads why does everyone on my side have to be so goddamn silent? stop pming me and flame AD ecchi threads with me |
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Mamster-P said: @merryfistmas do a weekly fanservice thread? i thought i scared everyone away from doing it.... Nagitoxhxc said: Why would fan service hinder the experience? I never got that. I can only see fan service hindering the experience if it destroyed a romantic mood for example. I don't see how adding some ass shot would totally destroy someones anime experience. If it destroys the mood, that's the writers fault. Blaming it on every fan service moment is like blaming forced romance on all romance. The Conclusion: Fan Service shouldn't be known as a bad thing. Fan Service doesn't add to the story either. It's just a bonus which shouldn't affect the overall score. ive tried to say this 100x but.... you know this site.... it like people don't understand that being distracted is a personal problem as there are many people who don't find it distracting.... "theres a sexy pair of tits/an ass in my face, fuck this anime, its been ruined" WHAT THE FUCK? i don't get it and i never will... seems so fucking fake... I agree! People of mal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) oh you people of mal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (Also why do obvious Ecchi haters without a single favorite of Ecchi keep clicking on each Ecchi show every season) |
Mamster-P said: Maybe you should change for my threads instead of asking my threads to change for you.@merryfistmas these kinds of threads give people a window to bash ecchi.... which is bait for me.... plus uh... the people who agree with me are almost never in these threads why does everyone on my side have to be so goddamn silent? stop pming me and flame AD ecchi threads with me No one here has baited you or said anything overly negative about ecchi, some people typically dislike it, but even those who do have been presented their opinions peacefully at the very least. Think about what you are saying. You want people who think like you to attack people who don't. This is exactly what you claim to hate. |
merryfistmasJul 26, 2016 2:12 PM
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| It actually decreases my score... The less the better. |
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| Fanservice almost feels like a staple part of Monogatari. I think it would be possible for it to go without it, but would have to add in some other aspect or make the current aspects more interesting e.g the plot, or the apparitions. |
| @merryfistmas i said its bait FOR ME... lol Nagitoxhxc said: I agree! People of mal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) oh you people of mal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (Also why do obvious Ecchi haters without a single favorite of Ecchi keep clicking on each Ecchi show every season) holy shit, i found another hero.... man... this fascination people have with things they don't like... ill never understand the most shit talked element of anime is also the most brought up funny how the more something is hated the more popular it becomes... WHICH IS GREAT FOR ECCHI..... however, it'd be nice if there were more people who weren't so fucking afraid to defend it... I MEAN ALL OF IT.... i really do feel as though many of the "if it's done properly" people are just saying that to not sound like theyre bashing it or just don't wanna come off as complete perverts trust me, as someone who gets like 6 random FR a week and pms all the time for my profile, i can tell you many of these ppl are just trying to hide how much they actually like this stuff im gonna have to get rid of the line in my signature, cause this shit is gets more annoying every time |
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| @Mamster-P I don't know what to tell you then. I ask for positive experiences with fan service and peoples favorite examples (something you should have plenty of examples of), preferably something beyond "Fan service is always good", because that is boring and useless, just like saying some is "well written" is useless, and rather than post anything on topic, you go on a tirade about people who aren't even here. |
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Mamster-P said: @merryfistmas i said its bait FOR ME... lol Nagitoxhxc said: I agree! People of mal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) oh you people of mal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (Also why do obvious Ecchi haters without a single favorite of Ecchi keep clicking on each Ecchi show every season) holy shit, i found another hero.... man... this fascination people have with things they don't like... ill never understand the most shit talked element of anime is also the most brought up funny how the more something is hated the more popular it becomes... WHICH IS GREAT FOR ECCHI..... however, it'd be nice if there were more people who weren't so fucking afraid to defend it... I MEAN ALL OF IT.... i really do feel as though many of the "if it's done properly" people are just saying that to not sound like theyre bashing it or just don't wanna come off as complete perverts trust me, as someone who gets like 6 random FR a week and pms all the time for my profile, i can tell you many of these ppl are just trying to hide how much they actually like this stuff im gonna have to get rid of the line in my signature, cause this shit is gets more annoying every time I can agree with that too. This is a real life experience though where I converted one of my friends into a DxD fan and whenever I brought up the topic he'd always be like "High School DxD? What's it about?" Most people here actually enjoy it but afraid to admit it. |
| Even as an ecchi connoisseur, I don't really rate based on sexual fanservice unless it's Kill la Kill. (The Monogatari series too. You do raise a good point about it being quite "eh" without the fanservice) |
| For me mostly fan service would either 1. drag the score down if it's done too in-your-face or 2. have no bearing on it. But then again when it's teasing a relationship between 2 characters (guys), I am probably going to enjoy it more than I otherwise would so it would probably increase the score. |
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| Fan service actually decreases my score. |
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| i dont think it would effect my score much, unless its inappropriate or unnecessary if it can add to the comedy then its fine by me :) |
| @merryfistmas im sorry but... i refuse to believe the flood of "if its done a certain way" comments are all entirely genuine, especially on a subject that many people are afraid to talk about the fact that almost no one is saying it increases there score, just seems like some ppl are lying, especially when ppl watch these shows knowing its coming it just seems like yet another like/dislike train.... Nagitoxhxc said: I can agree with that too. This is a real life experience though where I converted one of my friends into a DxD fan and whenever I brought up the topic he'd always be like "High School DxD? What's it about?" Most people here actually enjoy it but afraid to admit it. the DxD ecchi fandom is so fake..... im sorry but..... DxD isn't popular at all because of the fanservice.... people just said "oh look a heavy ecchi show with a plot, lets all meatride it to look like were fans of the ecchi genre" its just another hype train... you're a true ecchi fan when you're watching the shows that "require nothing else" but yea seriously, the people who are trying to avoid coming off as complete perverts need to stop hiding that shit..... |
EcchiGodMamsterJul 26, 2016 3:56 PM
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| 1/10 for anything without fanservice, 10/10 for anything with fanservice |
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Mamster-P said: So people are pretending to like ecchi to fit in now? This seems a bit odd. Again, you're complaining is off topic, please refrain from posting if it doesn't fit.@merryfistmas im sorry but... i refuse to believe the flood of "if its done a certain way" comments are all entirely genuine, especially on a subject that many people are afraid to talk about the fact that almost no one is saying it increases there score, just seems like some ppl are lying, especially when ppl watch these shows knowing its coming it just seems like yet another like/dislike train.... Nagitoxhxc said: I can agree with that too. This is a real life experience though where I converted one of my friends into a DxD fan and whenever I brought up the topic he'd always be like "High School DxD? What's it about?" Most people here actually enjoy it but afraid to admit it. the DxD ecchi fandom is so fake..... im sorry but..... DxD isn't popular at all because of the fanservice.... people just said "oh look a heavy ecchi show with a plot, lets all meatride it to look like were fans of the ecchi genre" its just another hype train... you're a true ecchi fan when you're watching the shows that "require nothing else" but yea seriously, the people who are trying to avoid coming off as complete perverts need to stop hiding that shit..... |
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CapitalistGod said: Why are these two exceptions? I have a feeling your reasons would be similar to mine, but I would like to hear it from you. As an ecchi connoisseur, which ecchi do you feel work the best? I interested to see examples of fan service improving a show, or the fan service itself being exceptional on its own.Even as an ecchi connoisseur, I don't really rate based on sexual fanservice unless it's Kill la Kill. (The Monogatari series too. You do raise a good point about it being quite "eh" without the fanservice) |
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merryfistmas said: CapitalistGod said: Why are these two exceptions? I have a feeling your reasons would be similar to mine, but I would like to hear it from you. As an ecchi connoisseur, which ecchi do you feel work the best? I interested to see examples of fan service improving a show, or the fan service itself being exceptional on its own.Even as an ecchi connoisseur, I don't really rate based on sexual fanservice unless it's Kill la Kill. (The Monogatari series too. You do raise a good point about it being quite "eh" without the fanservice) Any show with a concept, themes and premise that wouldn't really work without sexual fanservice.... for example one of my favorites, Shimoneta(with a boring, Puritan world as its premise) and as I said Kill la Kill(with themes of sexuality and freedom in its core) . Also, special mention will be Prison School whose *serious* comedy does solely rely on its over the top use of sexual fanservice. |
-Stabbed- said: Le obligatory depends on execution. But I guarantee you that fanservice can never ever take too much off my score. I'm pretty indifferent in general though.. kamisama751 said: Prison School--> possible Kill La Kill--> possible The entire Monogatari Series--> possible I can. And we are talking about fanservice in general, not just echi. Fanservice is pretty much integral to klk and prison school. Like if you take out all the nudity out of klk half of the aspects that made the series great is now gone. The lack of clothing on Ryuko plays an integral role in her coming-of-age story, íe coming to terms with who she is and wearing it on her sleeves. If it's an intergral part of the plot I wouldn't really call it fan service. I call stuff fan service if people go out of their way to try and make stuff visually "more appealing" by for instance nudity. But the out of their way part is the most important part. OT: I would generally not rate stuff with fan service higher. I watch anime for the story/plot/culture or the SoL/comedy elements. Adding fan service in that decreases the content I actually watch it for. If I want to see nudity/blood/gore, I'm pretty sure I don't have to watch anime to see that. There are plenty of other sources for those things outside of anime. For instance in F/Z they had The only purpose it had was setting up/making a connection to F/SN or making something for certain fans. I'm not rating F/Z higher than I would have if the episode wasn't there. |
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| Fanservice doesnt affect my score much. If I see it, I'll smile cuz I'm a pervert. Even for a perv like me though, if it's excessive, AND ESPECIALLY if it's a harem, then I'll be annoyed and take note of it. |
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CapitalistGod said: I need to watch Shimoneta, pantsu-on-head the anime sounds glorious.merryfistmas said: Why are these two exceptions? I have a feeling your reasons would be similar to mine, but I would like to hear it from you. As an ecchi connoisseur, which ecchi do you feel work the best? I interested to see examples of fan service improving a show, or the fan service itself being exceptional on its own. Any show with a concept, themes and premise that wouldn't really work without sexual fanservice.... for example one of my favorites, Shimoneta(with a boring, Puritan world as its premise) and as I said Kill la Kill(with themes of sexuality and freedom in its core) . Also, special mention will be Prison School whose *serious* comedy does solely rely on its over the top use of sexual fanservice. -Stabbed- said: While the theme of nudity is important to her character development, I don't think many of the angles and other scenes were necessary. This isn't a bad thing though, those transformations are fabulous, and themes aside, the show would not have worked as well without them. It's built on all the over-exaggerated anime tropes, females wearing inexplicably skimpy outfits being one of them, so even if themes were thrown out the window I think It'd still fit. It even works once the show starts taking itself serious since I'd already gotten invested in the characters, tits and all. The themes bring it all home though, taking it from an amazing show to my favorite show.Le obligatory depends on execution. But I guarantee you that fanservice can never ever take too much off my score. I'm pretty indifferent in general though.. kamisama751 said: Prison School--> possible Kill La Kill--> possible The entire Monogatari Series--> possible I can. And we are talking about fanservice in general, not just echi. Fanservice is pretty much integral to klk and prison school. Like if you take out all the nudity out of klk half of the aspects that made the series great is now gone. The lack of clothing on Ryuko plays an integral role in her coming-of-age story, íe coming to terms with who she is and wearing it on her sleeves. |
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