Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| Neutrally spreaking: Subaru doing wrong things is natural, there is only few he can do. It's as if the country where you live is going to be assaulted by millions of neonazis, and you're the only one who know that with no proof and you can't tell them. So what do you do? Asking for the most powerful and closest help is the best hope, but you have nothing to offer to a country who already has everything. However in the real world, the country would probably help anyway and you would have a huge dept to them. This is exactly what Subaru is trying to do. This is a candidate-centered episode, with character developpement : Crusch is lying, try to act friendly but she won't act without benefit. Priscilla is narcissistic, she play with people, look them down, but honor and fidelity is even more important to her. Anasthasia is cunning, sly, opportunist. She just got what she want and threw Subaru away. This episode is not about Subaru being idiot, but about him doing errors. To him, saving people is a reason in itself to execute the cultists. Just imagine if one of the 3 candidate he talked to was Emilia, she would accept to give a hand. HOWEVER, Subaru still getting victimised is bad writing, we just had enough of it in the last episode. I agree that he can't act perfectly regarding what he went through, I personnally wouldn't like it if he jumped from insanity to hero in just one loop, but is doing error without being crushed by everyone he meet is incompatible? His suffering is becoming too long now. Honestly if Subaru is still a victim at the end of the 9 remaining episode, the show will become very terrible. I still have hopes in the show, maybe this episode was needed. He seems to collect all the seven deadly sins one by one now, Priscilla say things about lazyness and greed. 4/5 |
pterozJul 18, 2016 3:29 AM
| Damn that ending song and ending animation was hella good. Beautiful |
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Ricardo_Ricky said: I would like to have the answer you think is watching this anime 1. why subaru never be calm with death which had almost become a habit in his life? 2. why not exercise the sword to an expert by using the power of rebirth? (This will be very helpful) if the Rem could smell the Witch Jealous of Subaru mean Power of Rebirth will not disappear until the Witch is missing from that world, right? 3. why not trying to tell the Power of Rebirth with the writing? (Because it can not tell by words) #googletranslateuser(lol) 1. He saw the people he love dead few second before his rewind. And it's only 2nd time so he's not used to it. 2. Because he doesn't control his abilities. What if he don't reborn next time he suicide? And the witch is already missing in the rezero's world. Now I give you the rebirth ability, go suicide yourself until you become the smartest guy on the planet, but I can stop the ability whenever I want ^_^. 3. It's the same thing, he would be stopped even if he tried to say it by farting in morse code. |
NitroKageAki said: Chiyousagi said: He didn't choose to reset. Sure he doesn't know where his save points are(and he can't go back to older ones), but that conference fcuk up was deem not worthy enough by him at that moment to go for a reset. Yeah, I totally agree with you. After his disgrace in the palace and fierce argument with Emilia, he did not take the easy way out to kill himself as he maybe believe that if he "train" hard enough and act as if the argument does not bother him even a bit (in fact, it does), Emilia will magically understand all his efforts and their relationship will fix as well. My point is like what I said in my previous comment, it is irony that Subaru, who in fact has a possibility to create unlimited first impression, can't do so as his Return By Die is not as flexible as it should be in other time-travel/leap anime. And I bet if he has a choice in picking checkpoint, he will definitively choose the checkpoint prior to the conference. Although this will be bad writing since all the tension and conflict as well as Subaru's character development will be reduce to zero... Hard to say. If subaru were to reset, it will be more for the quarrel rather then bad impression. Yet he already choose not to do it which viewers are already wondering during that episode why. Guess he is feels he is right and more importantly the author could be emphasizing that indeed subaru was right in his insistence in keeping close to Emilia and protect her. Subaru only know about her death because ram's clairvoyance which alerted rem. Imagine if subaru didn't know until too late and a new save point was somewhere further down. pteroz post directly below yours point out that this episode was to show us the nature of those candidates which I feel so too. None of them own subaru anything, and all 3 of them fully exercise their rights to do so. Nothing to do with their first impression of subaru. In fact everyone here should easily understand that political rival never help each other out and so subaru getting trolled was nothing but expected. The only thing I hope to see(provided subaru doesn't reset and epi 16 event remain) is somewhere later on subaru is in a position to "warn" those 3 but doesn't, or at least wait until bad stuff is about to happen before tipping them off and laugh his ass off as they receive the tip off too late leaving them in no position to change anything. Esp to Crusch. Gotta teach those 3 who is the most invaluable information broker around. |
pteroz said: 3. It's the same thing, he would be stopped even if he tried to say it by farting in morse code. There definitely is some leeway. Subaru can share the information freely, just not talk specifically about return by death. Meaning he can't say he can return by death, but there is nothing stopping him from saying he has some sort of clairvoyance ability. |
Ricardo_Ricky said: I would like to have the answer you think is watching this anime 1. why subaru never be calm with death which had almost become a habit in his life? 2. why not exercise the sword to an expert by using the power of rebirth? (This will be very helpful) if the Rem could smell the Witch Jealous of Subaru mean Power of Rebirth will not disappear until the Witch is missing from that world, right? 3. why not trying to tell the Power of Rebirth with the writing? (Because it can not tell by words) #googletranslateuser(lol) Well I have read the WN of Re:zero up to Arc 6. Japanese is of course not my native language so I might misinterpret the text so there is possibility of my understanding of the story is flawed and wrong. Yea, allow me to answer your question without giving too much spoilers 1. No one will get used of getting killed as it is against the principle of being a living thing (living as long as you can to continue your genes to the later generation). Subaru is broken, however he has yet reached a point that he devalue his own life as something expendable and worthless compared to other lives since he can Return By Death. Although he does so in a IF chapter where he 2. Training, in my opinion does not help much since even if he abuse RbD to train profusely in mutiple loop, he will lose all his muscle memories if he get reseted. Then you will have a situation where you have a crappy hardware to run a superior software where this definitely will not end well as there is too many monsters in that world. Rem capable in detecting the scent is getting thicker does not equate that he unlimited retries. Maybe it is a warning, that if the scent get past a certain threshold, something worse that death might befall to him. 3. Well I have the same question as well. Though the limit of what of the curse is not explored, I see no point of testing the patience of the Witch of Envy who grants him his only power, the RbD (his abuse of RbD in episode 10 is very dangerous and lucky for him that Satella didn't go into full rage mode.....yet). Who know what she might do.......... Hope this helps. |
Chiyousagi said: pteroz said: 3. It's the same thing, he would be stopped even if he tried to say it by farting in morse code. There definitely is some leeway. Subaru can share the information freely, just not talk specifically about return by death. Meaning he can't say he can return by death, but there is nothing stopping him from saying he has some sort of clairvoyance ability. I was trolling for this one, obviously |
Chiyousagi said: NitroKageAki said: Yeah, I totally agree with you. After his disgrace in the palace and fierce argument with Emilia, he did not take the easy way out to kill himself as he maybe believe that if he "train" hard enough and act as if the argument does not bother him even a bit (in fact, it does), Emilia will magically understand all his efforts and their relationship will fix as well. My point is like what I said in my previous comment, it is irony that Subaru, who in fact has a possibility to create unlimited first impression, can't do so as his Return By Die is not as flexible as it should be in other time-travel/leap anime. And I bet if he has a choice in picking checkpoint, he will definitively choose the checkpoint prior to the conference. Although this will be bad writing since all the tension and conflict as well as Subaru's character development will be reduce to zero... Hard to say. If subaru were to reset, it will be more for the quarrel rather then bad impression. Yet he already choose not to do it which viewers are already wondering during that episode why. Guess he is feels he is right and more importantly the author could be emphasizing that indeed subaru was right in his insistence in keeping close to Emilia and protect her. Subaru only know about her death because ram's clairvoyance which alerted rem. Imagine if subaru didn't know until too late and a new save point was somewhere further down. pteroz post directly below yours point out that this episode was to show us the nature of those candidates which I feel so too. None of them own subaru anything, and all 3 of them fully exercise their rights to do so. Nothing to do with their first impression of subaru. In fact everyone here should easily understand that political rival never help each other out and so subaru getting trolled was nothing but expected. The only thing I hope to see(provided subaru doesn't reset and epi 16 event remain) is somewhere later on subaru is in a position to "warn" those 3 but doesn't, or at least wait until bad stuff is about to happen before tipping them off and laugh his ass off as they receive the tip off too late leaving them in no position to change anything. Esp to Crusch. Gotta teach those 3 who is the most invaluable information broker around. Haha. I do share your sentiment towards the three candidates that they should get a taste of the crap Subaru been through, especially Priscilla, GOD I still can't stand her haughtiness even I had finished Arc 5. Their action, however, is somehow justified (as much I don't want to admit it), like they, as the future ruler of the country, can't really lend their army to some random madman that they barely know, without proof to support his points and merit big enough to outweigh the risk. And who knows that Subaru maybe a spy from the Witch Cult with the mission of luring the lent army just to be ambushed afterwards. That is a feudal medieval world where the lives of your own private army can easily outweigh the lives of some random peasants who is not even your subject (yet). And Subaru naive appeal to humanitarianism will bound to fail as Subaru and the three candidates share different moral standpoint. Welcome aboard to the Suffaru train~ |
AironicallyHuman said: ...Isn't the ultimate point of this arc for Subaru to learn his lesson in the long-run as he rebuilds his relationship with Emilia/learns to depend on others? We already got that in Arc2. No need to repeat it with forced 'development' (or more like Recession) and OOCness |
crx07 said: I wanna defend them. Sorry, my post sound like "those 3 girls are bitches", that was not my intention. I'm just saying they are not as friendly as Subaru expected, so I only talked about their flaws. |
pterozJul 18, 2016 3:29 AM
| ahah, it is the infodump episode, but it was a good one heh. some bits and pieces of the puzzle has been revealed (although this cannot possibly be all of it?) and while it does hint economics (Crusch and Russell gathering iron, Otto and his out of season Oils), I doubt it will be centered that heavily on it. It's regrettable that Subaru hasn't yet been able to regain composure similar to how he had done so in Arc2, hopefully he will be able to do so after a few more deaths. Subaru had my hopes up during his talk with Anastasia as he's shown glimpses of his calm self, taking in information and processing it (but hokes, he lost composure again). I'm actually very intrigued with the puzzle arc3 has given, and it REALLY makes me want to jot down the details and see if the solution can be found (afaik, the problem right now is "How can Subaru reach Roswaal's manor in time") before the anime reveals the answer. |
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FononZero said: NitroKageAki said: Haha. I do share your sentiment towards the three candidates that they should get a taste of the crap Subaru been through, especially Priscilla, GOD I still can't stand her haughtiness even I had finished Arc 5. Their action, however, is somehow justified (as much I don't want to admit it), like they, as the future ruler of the country, can't really lend their army to some random madman that they barely know, without proof to support his points and merit big enough to outweigh the risk. And who knows that Subaru maybe a spy from the Witch Cult with the mission of luring the lent army just to be ambushed afterwards. That is a feudal medieval world where the lives of your own private army can easily outweigh the lives of some random peasants who is not even your subject (yet). And Subaru naive appeal to humanitarianism will bound to fail as Subaru and the three candidates share different moral standpoint. Welcome aboard to the Suffaru train~ I can't stand Pricilla either. Mostly because unlike all the other candidates, she has no real goals (that are explained so far). While everyone else is busy gathering information(Anastasia), gathering supplies (Crusch), etc.... she's just amusing herself for the hell of amusing herself. :V But yeah, I can't blame them for not being all on board for fighting the cult. Like I'm pretty sure even they know that's a pretty big risk. Let alone for your own enemy / opponent. Yeah, Priscilla bloated ego is hard to bear and I guess the author is trying to break the haughty oujousama trope who is tsuntsun in the outside and deredere in the inside towards the male lead. Her haughtiness is somehow justified as she can easily insta-kill Subaru if she wants it and has not face a single failure in her life (where some of her disadvantages magically ends up benefiting her in the end), enough for her to believe that the world revolves around her. Spoiler(?)/Info about her past Despite all this, I still can't find myself to like her.... |
NitroKageAkiJul 18, 2016 3:57 AM
| Great episode as always, these canditates are really something and kick Subaru in the butt. Can't blame him after all the mess he pass on. Can't wait ti see the next episode, Re:Zero is so addicted. :) 5/5 |
| Anyway, basicly Subaru left half a day later than the last loop, in day 2 , probably took the same road (12 hours longs). The difference was enough to encounter the whale mist in end of day 2. Now Betelgeuse and Ram signal to Rem appeared day 3 in loop 2, and the domain is attacked day 4. So Betelgeuse appearing this loop is still possible but they are still pretty far from where he was attacked with Rem. |
| Ah, now this here was a great episode. I liked last episode well enough, but at times its "SUFFERING" felt excessive and somewhat indulgent. I do appreciate it more in hindsight, since seeing the hell Subaru just experienced helps contextualize his short-sighted recklessness and idiocy in this episode. Still, I think I prefer Re: Zero when it's in world-building and subtle character development mode, and this here had that in spades. After the epic last shot of Subaru in the last episode, people were expecting a suddenly super-competent MC who would show his enemies whose boss, but instead we get the same guy with no concrete strategy tossed around by people who are far more politically savvy than himself. I love it, partly because of how it defies audience expectations, but mostly because it just makes the most sense. Subaru can become as angry as he wants, as revenge-driven as he likes, but the world doesn't revolve around him and isn't suddenly going to bend to his will, something he learns all too harshly here. I once again must commend this show for allowing such an unlikable character to occupy the MC slot for so long. I've been of the opinion that character likability is overrated for a while now, so this works fine for me. Subaru is still a compelling protagonist, and that's all that matter to me. I loved the direction of the first few minutes, where we are deliberately not allowed to see Subaru's face in its entirety, his eyes hidden from view despite being the last thing the audience saw in the previous episode. That adds to the impact when we finally see the murderous glint in his eyes when he explodes in rage, and even then Subaru's face is hidden in shadows, accentuating the unsettling look in his eyes. Screaming at the person whom he is begging for help is self-evidently unsound negotiating, but Subaru isn't thinking of that, he's thinking of the hell he witnessed last episode. It's perfectly understandable, if not frustrating to watch. I've said this before, but seeing Subaru's ugly side in such vivid detail humanizes him a great deal, because we have also seen the best of him before and know he can be better. Not that I think the narrative is particularly sympathetic to Subaru here, even after all of his suffering. It's been a while since I've seen a narrative this critical of its protagonist, because it seems pretty clear that the three candidates' criticisms of Subaru are meant to be taken as valid and not just antagonistic nonsense. Subaru himself only confirms their low opinion of him through his actions, words, and thoughts, over and over again. It's striking just how little the torture last episode changed Subaru. He's still the same guy suffering from the same crippling character flaws highlighted in episodes 12 and 13, just with some madness and a drive for vengeance sprinkled in to exacerbate them and further blind him to his own weaknesses. Subaru's main problem this episode is his inability to step outside of himself and of his narrow view of the world. He's often selfish, thinking of others strictly in terms of how they relate to his own desires and his own problems. That feeds into his honestly entitled nature, where he EXPECTS others to return what he sees as favors, what he sees as his own heroism. This ties into his problematic relationship with Emilia, where he idolized her and placed her on a pedestal while also convincing himself that no one is more loyal to her, than no one is more dedicated to her, and that no one is more capable of standing besides her than himself. That attitude eventually exploded in his face in episode 13, where it became clear that Subaru didn't actually SEE Emilia; he only saw the goddess he felt obligated to "save," whether she liked it or not, and worse, he believed he deserved to be thanked for his chivalry, even when it ignored the will of the person whom he claimed to love the most. Subaru probably should have realized his folly after what happened to the village, but all he really took away from that experience was that the Witch Cult needed to die, which I honestly can't blame him for. It's a perfectly understandable response. What that means, though, is that the same character flaws that led to the fallout between Subaru and Emilia are still present. Subaru is still framing the entire situation here in terms of how it affects his feelings, in terms of how it relates to his own goals, without seriously considering the POV of others. After Priscilla humiliates him, he seethes in rage as he tells himself that she's forgotten he saved her life the first time they met. There's that entitled attitude again, but it's hard to judge Subaru too harshly simply because of how human a response it feels. It's short-sighted and symptomatic of the selfishness at the core of Subaru's character, but again, it's a feeling easy to understand. But again and again, Subaru's utter inability to consider other people's desires in his negotiations, instead of simply fixating on his own, drives the criticism of his character home. Highlighting this personality defect through Subaru's negotiations was clever, too, because it gave the writer a chance to deliver some good world-building and character development for the candidates while still commenting on Subaru's problems. This whole arc so far feels like a sustained attack on the White Knight syndrome, and I'm looking forward to how it resolves itself. Subaru shows some hints of improvements toward's the end of the episode. He finally shifts his goal from killing the Witch Cultists to saving his friends, and finds a viable method of doing it by taking the advice he's been given and actually successfully negotiating with others. When he first gets the idea of buying oil in exchange for transportation, he initially addresses Otto by saying "I need to to talk," before changing that to "[I want to] ask for YOUR help." Subaru reframed his request so that it isn't about him ("I") but instead about Otto ("your"). This immediately makes the following conversation about Otto, not Subaru, which is how a negotiation should work. So yay progress. Next episode, Subaru's encounter with Re: Zero's Moby Dick... |
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pteroz said: 1. He saw the people he love dead few second before his rewind. And it's only 2nd time so he's not used to it. 2. Because he doesn't control his abilities. What if he don't reborn next time he suicide? And the witch is already missing in the rezero's world. Now I give you the rebirth ability, go suicide yourself until you become the smartest guy on the planet, but I can stop the ability whenever I want ^_^. 3. It's the same thing, he would be stopped even if he tried to say it by farting in morse code. The witch is missing? From where do you have this info? |
NitroKageAki said: Well I have read the WN of Re:zero up to Arc 6. Japanese is of course not my native language so I might misinterpret the text so there is possibility of my understanding of the story is flawed and wrong. Yea, allow me to answer your question without giving too much spoilers 1. No one will get used of getting killed as it is against the principle of being a living thing (living as long as you can to continue your genes to the later generation). Subaru is broken, however he has yet reached a point that he devalue his own life as something expendable and worthless compared to other lives since he can Return By Death. Although he does so in a IF chapter where he 2. Training, in my opinion does not help much since even if he abuse RbD to train profusely in mutiple loop, he will lose all his muscle memories if he get reseted. Then you will have a situation where you have a crappy hardware to run a superior software where this definitely will not end well as there is too many monsters in that world. Rem capable in detecting the scent is getting thicker does not equate that he unlimited retries. Maybe it is a warning, that if the scent get past a certain threshold, something worse that death might befall to him. 3. Well I have the same question as well. Though the limit of what of the curse is not explored, I see no point of testing the patience of the Witch of Envy who grants him his only power, the RbD (his abuse of RbD in episode 10 is very dangerous and lucky for him that Satella didn't go into full rage mode.....yet). Who know what she might do.......... Hope this helps. Does witch appears in the light novel as a character? How does she knows that he returned X-times by death? Is she some sort of a god? |
CollectivusJul 18, 2016 5:14 AM
I doubt it'd be so simple because Subaru remembers him but Otto doesn't. |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
Diwo said: Does witch appears in the light novel as a character? How does she knows that he returned X-times by death? Is she some sort of a good? |
NitroKageAki said: Haha. I do share your sentiment towards the three candidates that they should get a taste of the crap Subaru been through, especially Priscilla, GOD I still can't stand her haughtiness even I had finished Arc 5. Their action, however, is somehow justified (as much I don't want to admit it), like they, as the future ruler of the country, can't really lend their army to some random madman that they barely know, without proof to support his points and merit big enough to outweigh the risk. And who knows that Subaru maybe a spy from the Witch Cult with the mission of luring the lent army just to be ambushed afterwards. That is a feudal medieval world where the lives of your own private army can easily outweigh the lives of some random peasants who is not even your subject (yet). And Subaru naive appeal to humanitarianism will bound to fail as Subaru and the three candidates share different moral standpoint. Welcome aboard to the Suffaru train~ I don't really care about suffaru. Just hate the "force" babyrage by the author since I see it as just another form of dragging out. Like how in dbz anime you have two retards standing and posing for a good half duration of the episode and then gotta wait until next week before able to watch anything meaningful becuz tada... cliffhanger :D Mess up suffaru for all I care, as long as I get meaningful insight. By all means have suffaru getting information becuz his torturer is a blabber mouth. 16 episode in and we hardly know much stuff. This is just another log horizon(god dam that anime, watching 4 cour worth of episode and we didn't get anywhere) But yeah, I agree that no one is obliged to help him. Just that I hope subaru will get the chance to "prove" his information worth :D Plus since they like to play the everything given requires something in return game, subaru show them who is boss. That his help/information is literally priceless. |
juicykitten95 said: Diwo said: Does witch appears in the light novel as a character? How does she knows that he returned X-times by death? Is she some sort of a good? I meant god, but thanks had this question too. And why is the witch doing this? |
Diwo said: NitroKageAki said: Well I have read the WN of Re:zero up to Arc 6. Japanese is of course not my native language so I might misinterpret the text so there is possibility of my understanding of the story is flawed and wrong. Yea, allow me to answer your question without giving too much spoilers 1. No one will get used of getting killed as it is against the principle of being a living thing (living as long as you can to continue your genes to the later generation). Subaru is broken, however he has yet reached a point that he devalue his own life as something expendable and worthless compared to other lives since he can Return By Death. Although he does so in a IF chapter where he 2. Training, in my opinion does not help much since even if he abuse RbD to train profusely in mutiple loop, he will lose all his muscle memories if he get reseted. Then you will have a situation where you have a crappy hardware to run a superior software where this definitely will not end well as there is too many monsters in that world. Rem capable in detecting the scent is getting thicker does not equate that he unlimited retries. Maybe it is a warning, that if the scent get past a certain threshold, something worse that death might befall to him. 3. Well I have the same question as well. Though the limit of what of the curse is not explored, I see no point of testing the patience of the Witch of Envy who grants him his only power, the RbD (his abuse of RbD in episode 10 is very dangerous and lucky for him that Satella didn't go into full rage mode.....yet). Who know what she might do.......... Hope this helps. Does witch appears in the light novel as a character? How does she knows that he returned X-times by death? Is she some sort of a god? In the LN it does make some appearance in the Arc 3 of the LN, in a form of shadowly figure if this counts. And yea, she IS the main reason for Subaru's RbD. As for whether she's god or not, so far there isn't confirmation of such thing, as least she is sturdy enough to force the dragon, hero, and sage to just seal her as they can't eliminate her... |
Chiyousagi said: NitroKageAki said: Haha. I do share your sentiment towards the three candidates that they should get a taste of the crap Subaru been through, especially Priscilla, GOD I still can't stand her haughtiness even I had finished Arc 5. Their action, however, is somehow justified (as much I don't want to admit it), like they, as the future ruler of the country, can't really lend their army to some random madman that they barely know, without proof to support his points and merit big enough to outweigh the risk. And who knows that Subaru maybe a spy from the Witch Cult with the mission of luring the lent army just to be ambushed afterwards. That is a feudal medieval world where the lives of your own private army can easily outweigh the lives of some random peasants who is not even your subject (yet). And Subaru naive appeal to humanitarianism will bound to fail as Subaru and the three candidates share different moral standpoint. Welcome aboard to the Suffaru train~ I don't really care about suffaru. Just hate the "force" babyrage by the author since I see it as just another form of dragging out. Like how in dbz anime you have two retards standing and posing for a good half duration of the episode and then gotta wait until next week before able to watch anything meaningful becuz tada... cliffhanger :D Mess up suffaru for all I care, as long as I get meaningful insight. By all means have suffaru getting information becuz his torturer is a blabber mouth. 16 episode in and we hardly know much stuff. This is just another log horizon(god dam that anime, watching 4 cour worth of episode and we didn't get anywhere) But yeah, I agree that no one is obliged to help him. Just that I hope subaru will get the chance to "prove" his information worth :D Plus since they like to play the everything given requires something in return game, subaru show them who is boss. That his help/information is literally priceless. Yea, let's hope for the best that this doesn't end up like Log Horizon (WHAT HAVE YOU DONE STUDIO DEEN~~~~), though I have confidence for White Fox since they cut short OP and ED and some scene in the beginning of Arc 3 just to allocate more time for the more vital ones. The ending for this show would be grand.......provided there isn't last minute asspull(looking at you, Kabaneri...) CheersXD |
| I can't handle Subaru being so stupid all the time. I mean, did he really think Emilia's rivals would just go ahead and give support to her without any compensation and believe the word of a useless guy who just got humiliated beyond measure? You can get confident or desperate enough for something, but you NEVER go full retard. There is a difference between being somewhat incompetent and trying to make up in the areas you are good at, getting better bit by bit, and being a complete and utter idiot. This and Chapter 13 gave me second hand embarrassment and I still can't believe he hasn't asked anyone for a way to kill himself in a painless way (like the curse thing in previous episodes) to take full advantage of his powers. I want to like these chapters because they are effectively showing the difference in status, power, connections, intellligence,etc between him and the others (basically worldbuilding and stuff like that), but the guy is simply too much of a manchild to understand he's doing something really wrong. |
trannon1 said: Let's say Crusch or the other candidates were to help Emilia and Emilia withdraws, the candidate that helps her will now have less resources to compete against the other candidates even if Emilia withdraws. So obviously they want something for doing something.. Main reason why they refused to assist is that their involvement would resolve the current conflict and Subaru didn't suffered nearly enough to advance the plot yet. Your theory works only in the case they are preparing for a civil war to break out and they will have to take out their opposition by force. Which may indeed be a case, considering Crusch action. If there is going to be a simple popularity vote, acting in defence of the citizens may actually help. This theoretically brings us to the situation where Emilia can't win because she doesn't have an army and other candidates will try to seize power by force anyway. |
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WesKeR said: Skaabais said: Eh, i quite dislike when protagonists go psycho or mad like Subaru did, but episode in general was interesting especially end. I know that feeling bro but at least here is explained because everything that has transpired so far. P.S.: About Re:Zero Ex Light Novels.... they are sort of prequels right? They are worth it? Or they are just milking the cow? Should I read it if I am a *anime-only* follower? Thank you Re:Zero Ex Light Novel is actually side stories featuring side characters such as Crusch and Ferris the the leads in EX1 and the young Wilheim in EX2. It expands on their backstories where the main story (LN and WN) barely touches it. It makes sense since their backstory does not really have to do with Subaru "suffering" adventure. Altohugh I haven't read any of those, I heard EX2 (Wilheim's youthful days lol) is way good enough than any typical LN stories and let's hope for the best that these stories will be to be OVA'd. |
simonli2575 said: IIRC the MC said that he didn't know how many times he could come back from the death We've been shown that, at the very least, he can revive 3-4 times per checkpoint. though assuming you can die as many times as you like, would you really want to die just because something went wrong? Yeah, kinda. That's the point of having these powers in the first place and the conclusion Subaru reached a couple of episodes ago. Why not explore as much as possible before dying, such that you'd die fewer times? Checkpoints change randomly though. He simply can't take too much time or else he will find himself too far in time to fix his mistakes. As for dying in a painless way, I doubt anyone would offer suicide assistance that easily. Beatrice, for example. He could've simply told them he wanted to experience on curses when he was on the castle, as another example. |
Rehls said: rolls eyes Unfortunatelly for you, it isn't that simple. It is not, is it? Show didn't show me much so far except the fact they added more and more gore to prove how "mature" it is. My personal bet is that Subaru needs to die at least 3 more times before plot advances itself, most likely in exceedingly painful and brutal way. |
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Shrimperor said: AironicallyHuman said: ...Isn't the ultimate point of this arc for Subaru to learn his lesson in the long-run as he rebuilds his relationship with Emilia/learns to depend on others? We already got that in Arc2. No need to repeat it with forced 'development' (or more like Recession) and OOCness You would think, having told Rem to depend on others, Subaru would've learned his lesson, but that's not the case: he was previously able to struggle through, relying on willpower. That gave him a false sense of security; leading to the whole 'I AM KNIGHT!' cringe. Until he was forced to realise acting OTT goofy and determination alone was not enough, he essentially learned nothing. And that is why he is so angry now, with all joking around stopped: for the first time, some hard truths are hitting home, one after the other. Basically, until he's mentally crushed and outclassed, he's too simple-minded and prideful to accept reality. His prior successes, aided by others, blinded him to his own ignorance and incompetence. So, I'd argue this arc was exactly what was required to take the series forward. Uncomfortable viewing or no. The main problem here is that Subaru, like most idiots, is not a fast learner. But most people put in his current situation would be at a loss. It's all well and good armchair critics suggesting not just asking for help, relying on guilt/anger, but he has nothing to offer. |
AironicallyHumanJul 18, 2016 6:59 AM
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