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Jun 17, 2016 10:21 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Suzuya gets stabbed and more Kaneki against Arima this chapter.
Sensei is really a genius but I... If Suzuya dies I'll die

Jun 18, 2016 2:52 AM
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The chapter literally isn't even out, why'd you make a thread?
There's a thread for spoiler discussion already.
Jun 18, 2016 3:20 AM
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Suzuya better not die. Man literally no one has plot armour in this series.
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GodofWar2015 said:
Suzuya better not die. Man literally no one has plot armour in this series.

>literally no one has plot armour in this series
>Touka and co. are alive after fighting Arima
>Touka and co. aren't minced in the disposal chamber


Although, spoilers did say that Mougan and Aura are moving in to assist Cochlea, they may encounter them when they reach the end of the....tubes?
Hirako is nowhere to be found too.
Jun 18, 2016 6:25 AM
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-Hmm, so our guess was proven right, Kurona abosrbed Nashiro and now she's a part of her kagune. Suzuya keeps mocking her, but she forms her kakuja (similar to Jason in how it gouges her eyes and she starts slurring words, but it looks like a spider) and attacks him. She's apparently the SS-rated Floppy ghoul, Suzuya and co. try to gangbang her whilst one dude helps Hanbee. Suzuya is got too arrogant, that's why he got injured.

-Aura and Mougan were sent to intercept escaping ghouls. We don't know who's talking in this panel, maybe Hirako, who knows. Continuation of the fight, still fighting on par. Hmm, Kaneki knows that he can't win properly so he hoped that Arima would dodge that wide attack so he can disappear. Arima's blind eye is giving him a problem again, he has to rely on his hearing and that's what let Kaneki trick him. Kaneki tricked him with the kagune mouth.....well played. Arima is genuinely surprised, and his weapon got broken. He's pretty much fucked at this point.
>inb4 someone throws him a Shachi quinque

Genuinely good and interesting chapter, two big death flags have been formed. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
Jun 18, 2016 7:21 AM
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Looking foward to seeing Arima's kagune next week
Jun 18, 2016 7:39 AM
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Clever trick by Kaneki~

Narukami, IXA, and now OWL- It seems like Arima has no choice but to resort to using his kagune.

Alternatively, the investigators arrive to help but I doubt they'll arrive in time. Kaneki's in for a surprise.
Jun 18, 2016 7:46 AM
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Why do you people have to jinx the ending of this chapter...


Jun 18, 2016 7:56 AM
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Another absolutely atrocious chapter. How is Kaneki so fucking fine after he was almost killed,couldn't regen and had nothing to eat. Whatever plot... Can this shit manga end already so it may be saved in a part 3.
Jun 18, 2016 7:59 AM

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Oh god... I can hear Juuzo's fans screaming all around the world (I'm one of them).
Very nice chapter. I like the focus on Cochlea, is like I'm in tension for almost every character rn
Jun 18, 2016 8:26 AM
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Suzuya got hit around the heart area.
Arima's quinque broke. Its time to use his umbrella.
Jun 18, 2016 8:31 AM

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Ouch Suzuya. In the kokoro. And not just that but Jason's broken. But who cares about Jason. Friggin Owl was broken too. Damn!

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Arima's quinque broke. Its time to use his umbrella.


LOL. I do wonder what other shit he's got up his ass
Jun 18, 2016 8:46 AM

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Arcanix said:
Another absolutely atrocious chapter. How is Kaneki so fucking fine after he was almost killed,couldn't regen and had nothing to eat. Whatever plot... Can this shit manga end already so it may be saved in a part 3.




By the way, where is Amon ? I thought he was going to come after the Kurona appeared .
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"If this world continues reject me, then I shall reject the world"
Jun 18, 2016 8:54 AM

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Satoshi_Orihara said:

By the way, where is Ammon ? I thought he was going to come after the Kurona appeared .


He still might, in fact this would be one of the best entrances ever. Having to kill a former kouhai while saving another former kouhai.

Out of interest, was there ever a scene with Arima eating or walking through an RC detector? I doubt Arima will fall over even with a broken Quinque but it'd be really annoying if he just whipped out a Kagune at this point.
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For a minute I thought the person who could be talking could be Ui since Ishida has set it up where either Juuzou or Arima could die and apparently one of their subordinates will also kill themselves (and Honestly I actually feel it'd be kinda lame if Arima would die since that will make Kaneki OP asf and I really don't like OP protagonist unless it's done right and it just doesn't feel done right.)

But I think Ui is still on Rue Island? So that would leave Hirako or Akira. Though I can't imagine Akira killing herself over Arima's death if he were to die. So it's probably Hirako. Even though it would seem he doesn't really like Arima. I think he could still admire his strength and think of him as a god like figure who's strength didn't seem reachable so if Arima died he could lose all hope.
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DID ARIMA JUST LOST ? will we finally see him losing ?

and suzuya got so rekt AL HAIL KURO !!!! xD

and finally aura nad mugen will be facing the :re crew "kill them please "
Jun 18, 2016 9:09 AM
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Oh no Suzuya (Internally screaming). If Shinohara wakes up and Suzuya isn't alive that would be crushing.
Seems Kaneki has won the battle but feeling like both will survive because of interference from who is ever coming to Arima aid. Wonder how far Touka and Yomo have made it out before the other squads arrive.
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RNoir said:
Satoshi_Orihara said:

By the way, where is Ammon ? I thought he was going to come after the Kurona appeared .


He still might, in fact this would be one of the best entrances ever. Having to kill a former kouhai while saving another former kouhai.

Out of interest, was there ever a scene with Arima eating or walking through an RC detector? I doubt Arima will fall over even with a broken Quinque but it'd be really annoying if he just whipped out a Kagune at this point.


In the chapter 31.5 we can see Arima at the dinner table with the other characters and none of them made any mention of the Arima not eat, on the other hand in no time the Arima is shown eating.

"If this world continues reject me, then I shall reject the world"
Jun 18, 2016 9:34 AM

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I have a feeling that Arima will show his final quinque form soon.

And ...Juuzou D:
Jun 18, 2016 9:42 AM

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Im glad we finnaly got back to the fight with Ken and Arima but now I want to go back to rue to see what happened to suzaya. sigh

hopefully they don't go somewhere else next chapter and finish the fight between Ken and Arima.
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So does this confirm that Shinohara's dead? I mean if it really is Suzuya that died "Followed his master to death". He's the only special class we know had a master. But well we don't really know much about the special classes so...
Jun 18, 2016 10:19 AM

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Suzuya better not die. Man literally no one has plot armour in this series.


beside the :re crew
Jun 18, 2016 10:20 AM

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Suzuya...




Jun 18, 2016 10:28 AM

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WOW! I never expected that after Kanou abandoned the twins, Kurona was able to have Nashiro merge with her like that... So their kagunes had to do with it! :O

I like how calm Suzuya was throughout the scene... Instead of freaking out or making a typical Suzuya reaction from the previous series, he just calmly asked Kurona, "...Why have you come to the island?" Hmm...would Kanou be on the island though..?

However, it's quite sad that Kaneki and Arima's battle was left on a cliffhanger like that... Hope Suzuya and his team win against Kurona :(
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Nuvviveji said:
-Hmm, so our guess was proven right, Kurona abosrbed Nashiro and now she's a part of her kagune. Suzuya keeps mocking her, but she forms her kakuja (similar to Jason in how it gouges her eyes and she starts slurring words, but it looks like a spider) and attacks him. She's apparently the SS-rated Floppy ghoul, Suzuya and co. try to gangbang her whilst one dude helps Hanbee. Suzuya is got too arrogant, that's why he got injured.

-Aura and Mougan were sent to intercept escaping ghouls. We don't know who's talking in this panel, maybe Hirako, who knows. Continuation of the fight, still fighting on par. Hmm, Kaneki knows that he can't win properly so he hoped that Arima would dodge that wide attack so he can disappear. Arima's blind eye is giving him a problem again, he has to rely on his hearing and that's what let Kaneki trick him. Kaneki tricked him with the kagune mouth.....well played. Arima is genuinely surprised, and his weapon got broken. He's pretty much fucked at this point.
>inb4 someone throws him a Shachi quinque

Genuinely good and interesting chapter, two big death flags have been formed. Can't wait to see how this plays out.

That would probably be my favorite moment from this arc if that were to happen, as long as Kaneki proceeded to get rekt anyway.

Suzuya overplayed his hand it seems, seems to have pierced his heart, maybe his armor was enough to stop a fatal hit. Arima also got outplayed due to his eyesight.

At this moment in time I care more about Eto vs. Furuta than any other fight.
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Nuvviveji said:

>literally no one has plot armour in this series
>Touka and co. are alive after fighting Arima
>Touka and co. aren't minced in the disposal chamber


I dont think those are plot armors. Plot armor is when characters should die but do not die without any explanations, except for the plot itself.

Touka still alive due to help of others. So, there are explanations.
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Suzuya got stabbed apparently in the heart, I don't see him dying tho, it's the first time we get to see god Arima losing a fight, I think we're gonna see the real Arima the next chapter.
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RNoir said:
Satoshi_Orihara said:

By the way, where is Ammon ? I thought he was going to come after the Kurona appeared .


He still might, in fact this would be one of the best entrances ever. Having to kill a former kouhai while saving another former kouhai.

Out of interest, was there ever a scene with Arima eating or walking through an RC detector? I doubt Arima will fall over even with a broken Quinque but it'd be really annoying if he just whipped out a Kagune at this point.


Arima walking through the RC detector won't be of any use since Eto claimed that it doesn't work on ghouls affiliated with V. That's why Furuta, Kaneki (with Rize's RC cells) and Eto (sharing her father's dna) passed through the gate so easly.
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Not one but TWO cliffhangers?? Fucking Ishida man...

Unless Arima has another quinque up his sleeve, I don't see what else he can do against Kaneki. (please don't be a ghoul!)
As for Suzuya? As much I don't like guy, it would be the perfect time for Amon to show up since he's been looking for Kurona for some time now.
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I want to see Eto x Furuta and some of :re crew next week
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So Amon has been looking for the twins so this might be a good momment for him to show up.
Houji won't die so soon. I wanna see Tatara vs Houji and Eto vs Furuta.
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RNoir said:


He still might, in fact this would be one of the best entrances ever. Having to kill a former kouhai while saving another former kouhai.

Out of interest, was there ever a scene with Arima eating or walking through an RC detector? I doubt Arima will fall over even with a broken Quinque but it'd be really annoying if he just whipped out a Kagune at this point.


Arima walking through the RC detector won't be of any use since Eto claimed that it doesn't work on ghouls affiliated with V. That's why Furuta, Kaneki (with Rize's RC cells) and Eto (sharing her father's dna) passed through the gate so easly.


That's exactly my point, if we're shown that directly in :re it would be a great red herring by the author that Sui could use to give us an "Aha" moment with Eto's reveal. But mainly the food thing is what I was concerned with.
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Great chapter. Juuzou got stabbed but i doubt he will die, or at least not this way, and Arima is losing O.O? Arima might have a trump card but i just hope he isnt a ghoul...
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If Suzuya dies that easily, it just means that success as an investigator in the past operations made him lose his edge, as he got cocky with his formation. Though maybe he'll have some armor underneath his outward black armor...since we didn't see his body pierced all the way through. Or maybe not.

As for Arima, his quinque got wrecked, apparently, but I don't think he'll lose or die. Way too improbable and it'd put Kaneki as the big bad boss in the plot. I don't think that's the aim of Ishida, anyway. Though we can't have Kaneki dying here, so we might see a roof collapse or some accident as a means of escape, with no clear winner. Who knows?

As for how Kaneki can still fight and grow kagune limbs back...he used to consume a lot of ghouls in his past, before Haise, and he later ate Eto's kagune body. He's currently one of the strongest ghouls out there with the largest kagune, if not the strongest of them all. It's quite taxing on him, most likely, as he's forcing his body to adapt so he can keep fighting, so he might have issues later during recovery.

Aaaanyway, this was a teaser, so that we can ask ourselves, will Arima or Suzuya die? But maybe neither, and someone else instead? Though it trends to be Suzuya, it could be just another trolling by Ishida.
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I don't understand. What was the tongue thingy?
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I don't want Juzou to die
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Looking foward to seeing Arima's kagune next week


I love this comment xD
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Kaneki finally able to fight with Arima... heck it's the first time anyone could do anything against Arima.

Juuzo better not be dead. I just can't see him dying. He's one of the characters that I see living through the series.
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Kaneki finally able to fight with Arima... heck it's the first time anyone could do anything against Arima.

Juuzo better not be dead. I just can't see him dying. He's one of the characters that I see living through the series.


TG is a series that you shouldn't hope for any of its characters to live through it... unless they are :re crew!
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oh right! So Nashiro explained how she and Kurona are fused, so the guesses are right, but well its disgusting. Arima's Fukuro was broke by Kaneki, and lol xD that mouth in kaneki's kagune says "I win". Juuzou was hit vitally by Nashiro. Aw! don't die Juuzou, still hoping, your not the special class who was killed.
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Great chapter. Juuzou got stabbed but i doubt he will die, or at least not this way, and Arima is losing O.O? Arima might have a trump card but i just hope he isnt a ghoul...
I've read a theory just a while ago, that Arima might activate the kakuja mode of Fukuro, his quinque, just like the arata armor of Shinohara and Iwao in their battle with owl, they activate the kakuja of arata armor. Well if only its just his trump card xD
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Decent chapter, wtf happened with the panel wil the Yeeeaaahh coming out of it? It was on both scans when it was obviously supposed to say Yaaa...

Anyway, pretty bullshit if Suzuya died. Plus it's interesting people think Arima is a ghoul. Wtf is all the talk about Amon though? Didn't that dude get the shit dropped kicked out of him years ago so he's surely dead? If not that's bullshit.
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Nuvviveji said:

>literally no one has plot armour in this series
>Touka and co. are alive after fighting Arima
>Touka and co. aren't minced in the disposal chamber


I dont think those are plot armors. Plot armor is when characters should die but do not die without any explanations, except for the plot itself.

Touka still alive due to help of others. So, there are explanations.
Arima let Touka and the co. escape and let all the shit happened in the prison. He really doesn't wanna kill kaneki, so thats not a plot armor. I hope Kaneki will spare the life of Arima. *crossfingers*
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Andes-Chucky said:


I dont think those are plot armors. Plot armor is when characters should die but do not die without any explanations, except for the plot itself.

Touka still alive due to help of others. So, there are explanations.
Arima let Touka and the co. escape and let all the shit happened in the prison. He really doesn't wanna kill kaneki, so thats not a plot armor. I hope Kaneki will spare the life of Arima. *crossfingers*


To Nuvviveji, anyone who doesn't die when facing a life threatening situation is plot armor. Arima not wanting to kill them and Eto destroying the chamber are just asspulls.
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Wtf is all the talk about Amon though? Didn't that dude get the shit dropped kicked out of him years ago so he's surely dead? If not that's bullshit.


There was no body. Both Amon and Seidou were declared KIA, but their bodies were never found...and Seidou showed up in :re as a batshit insane half-ghoul, so it's likely that Amon and Seidou were both abducted and experimented on back then.
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Wtf is all the talk about Amon though? Didn't that dude get the shit dropped kicked out of him years ago so he's surely dead? If not that's bullshit.


There was no body. Both Amon and Seidou were declared KIA, but their bodies were never found...and Seidou showed up in :re as a batshit insane half-ghoul, so it's likely that Amon and Seidou were both abducted and experimented on back then.
yeah Kanou made both of them one eyed ghoul ^^
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Arima let Touka and the co. escape and let all the shit happened in the prison. He really doesn't wanna kill kaneki, so thats not a plot armor. I hope Kaneki will spare the life of Arima. *crossfingers*


To Nuvviveji, anyone who doesn't die when facing a life threatening situation is plot armor. Arima not wanting to kill them and Eto destroying the chamber are just asspulls.
I understand what you're talking about. Maybe Arima didn't want to kill them, and Eto helped them because she promised she will to Kaneki. The problem is, that they went on a suicide mission, and not only did they accomplish their task, they took NO losses whatsoever. It went too perfectly, all the circumstances aligned perfectly. They're still not homefree though, so my 'wish' may come true. Aura and Mougan are aproaching them, Arima knows their faces, albeit maybe not for long, and their faces were probably recorded by the cameras.
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yes, still no losses. but, that's another problem and doesnt relate to plot armor directly.

I know problems of these kinds are the matters of definitions and understandings. I like to follow an explanation here:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArmor

they give quite detail and clear explanations, which is a plot armor and isnt. I like to know if there are other good references.

Thanks :)
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Can't wait to see what will happen between Kaneki and Arima.
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This chapter completely confirms that Arima is blind in his left eye and uses sound to fight. I'm so proud of Kaneki for using Arima's weakness against him owo

A while back, the author of HxH said that Juuzou was his favorite character. I'm not sure if Ishida is trolling or if this is a major death flag. Ishida.... you're not allowed to kill Juuzou, just no.

Shiro's dilemma is quite disgusting actually. She still thinks her sister is "going to be okay." Okay my ass. lol.

Anyways, a pretty decent and thrilling chapter with two death flags raised. And Kaneki seems to finally be getting somewhere in this fight, so that's good.
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