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| The only thing that kind of bugged me was how easily that girl killed the zombie with her shoe... I mean the shotguns really don't seem to be working against them, so no body else has ever came up with the idea of creating a blade to cut their heads off like that? |
TYxTxYT said: 7/10 for it's plot holes, but damn this production quality is among the gods. I can see this thing sell like hot cakes. 88000. I mean its only episode 1, plot holes are expected. In Japan its selling like hot cakes XD According to twitter. https://twitter.com/anime_kabaneri/status/716965402438291456 |
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shanimebib said:   If you can rationalize the two pictures above you will realize plot wise how bad the first episode was. I will not say more. Everything reeked Shingeki no Kyojin. But I gotta give credits where it's due. I think the MCs are likable so far so it's still watchable. After the first impression, I am not gonna give this more than a 6.5/10 if it doesn't improve. i swear they build that gate-bridge combination to allove Kabane invasions to be as effortless as possible. They wanted to loose this station real bad.Absolutely idiotic. That aside i enjoyed the episode..it was pretty epic at the end. |
| Shouldn't the protocol be to always keep the bridge up until the train stops outside? Bit of a dud way to set the series in motion. |
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-Ducky said: jojo_kyle said: I'm sorry bro but you're either stupid, illterate or just watched this episode without subs. The first image you saw is NOT how they normally handle the trains. In the image above this trains is off schedule because of the kabane, normally if they had come on time the team would have let down the bridge so they can pass in. In the second train entrance scene, the workers specifically say "It's here! It's the housoyga"(name of the train) "It's here on time" The bridge drops so that the train can come in slowly without coming to a full stop, this is how they normally have been doing it for 20 years. There is no writing flaw here, just you playing dumb and not paying attention when you should have been. I highly doubt that in a zombie apocalypse ANYONE would do something as stupid is to open a gate for a train before the train is even visible. I can't think of a single good reason why you wouldn't leave the door closed to verify that the train isn't overrun with zombies, then let them in afterwords. I don't think their protocol is to leave a door wide open for a train they can't see in the middle of the night, and THEN AFTER THEY LET THEM IN go on with the search to see if there are any zombies... So even if you're right and that's the normal thing, that doesn't make it any less stupid. Honestly I still really enjoyed the first episode, but I physically cringe whenever I see "human stupidity" used as a plot device. Hope that doesn't happen again later on. Normally trains simply slow down and come in, when trains are on time they workers are there at the bridge waiting, they drop the bridge and the train comes in nice smooth every single time for 20 years straight. There is absolutely no reason for them to ever expect a bunch of zombies to hijack a train, it's not stupidity it's them just following the routine that has worked perfectly fine for 2 decades. Human stupidity wasn't a play here, just their basic train schedule and structure. |
This makes zero sense. Why should we expect plot holes at any particular point? |
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it is definitely not expected. whoever is responsible for the bridge/gate scene thinks the viewers of this show are complete idiots that swallow anything. |
When they don't give you a plot at all? Random thought though. It would REALLLYYYY suck if a Kabane bit your junk off lol |
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Kerozinn said: it is definitely not expected. whoever is responsible for the bridge/gate scene thinks the viewers of this show are complete idiots that swallow anything. I know. It may seem a silly sort of thing to get hung up on but that bridge scene just made me groan so much. |
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| i don't still understand WTF the MC is actually doing!!! waiting for next episode... |
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| Not actually a plothole, but your tipical bad administration at work: During Day, while the Boss is checking: "Quickly, inspect the Train and make sure no one is a Kabane, shoot anyone remotely suspicious!!" During Night, while the boss is drinking somewhere: "Eh... Ain't no one got time for fucking inspections man, just let that Train go in" 90% of disasters in anime cities could have been prevented with good guards. |
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Tozzy said: Kerozinn said: it is definitely not expected. whoever is responsible for the bridge/gate scene thinks the viewers of this show are complete idiots that swallow anything. I know. It may seem a silly sort of thing to get hung up on but that bridge scene just made me groan so much. The problem with that scene is that its the reason why the MC got infected in the first place and that is just one of the events it caused. |
| only things worth to watch are the art style and the character design. big thanks to the character designer. |
Lararin said: Zahylon said: 90% of disasters in anime cities could have been prevented with good guards. Haha, so true. I don't know any numbers but can only imagine this was probably true in real life medieval cities as well though... Kerozinn said: The problem with that scene is that its the reason why the MC got infected in the first place and that is just one of the events it caused. I'm not trying to justify it making sense that they would open the bridge but they already had one train come early that day, and could it be possible they have watch towers so saw the train coming? Still inconsistent and it definitely seems like a stupid mistake but still... What's done is done people. What we can agree on is that guard doesn't like trains anymore. |
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Lararin said: Zahylon said: 90% of disasters in anime cities could have been prevented with good guards. Haha, so true. I don't know any numbers but can only imagine this was probably true in real life medieval cities as well though... Kerozinn said: The problem with that scene is that its the reason why the MC got infected in the first place and that is just one of the events it caused. I'm not trying to justify it making sense that they would open the bridge but they already had one train come early that day, and could it be possible they have watch towers so saw the train coming? Still inconsistent and it definitely seems like a stupid mistake but still... Having the bridge to the main gate of the whole station lowered already to a goddamn bloodsmeared train that they cant even see yet is the fuckup here. that whole system is flawed anyways. Like i said whoever came up with this stupid shit wanted it to allow the Kanabe to invade the station as effortless as possible. |
jojo_kyle said: -Ducky said: I highly doubt that in a zombie apocalypse ANYONE would do something as stupid is to open a gate for a train before the train is even visible. I can't think of a single good reason why you wouldn't leave the door closed to verify that the train isn't overrun with zombies, then let them in afterwords. I don't think their protocol is to leave a door wide open for a train they can't see in the middle of the night, and THEN AFTER THEY LET THEM IN go on with the search to see if there are any zombies... So even if you're right and that's the normal thing, that doesn't make it any less stupid. Honestly I still really enjoyed the first episode, but I physically cringe whenever I see "human stupidity" used as a plot device. Hope that doesn't happen again later on. Normally trains simply slow down and come in, when trains are on time they workers are there at the bridge waiting, they drop the bridge and the train comes in nice smooth every single time for 20 years straight. There is absolutely no reason for them to ever expect a bunch of zombies to hijack a train, it's not stupidity it's them just following the routine that has worked perfectly fine for 2 decades. Human stupidity wasn't a play here, just their basic train schedule and structure. From the way you're wording it I'll assume you know a lot more about the anime than I do... But either way, did you not see the fighting scene? All it would take would be one or two people getting bit and neglecting to tell the others about it in a last ditch effort to save their lives to overrun a train. If they were smart AT ALL, they would assume the worst for EVERY train. This is a post-apocalyptic world here, not friendly fred delivering honey buns. |
-Ducky said: jojo_kyle said: Normally trains simply slow down and come in, when trains are on time they workers are there at the bridge waiting, they drop the bridge and the train comes in nice smooth every single time for 20 years straight. There is absolutely no reason for them to ever expect a bunch of zombies to hijack a train, it's not stupidity it's them just following the routine that has worked perfectly fine for 2 decades. Human stupidity wasn't a play here, just their basic train schedule and structure. From the way you're wording it I'll assume you know a lot more about the anime than I do... But either way, did you not see the fighting scene? All it would take would be one or two people getting bit and neglecting to tell the others about it in a last ditch effort to save their lives to overrun a train. If they were smart AT ALL, they would assume the worst for EVERY train. This is a post-apocalyptic world here, not friendly fred delivering honey buns. +1 i couldnt agree more on this. |
-Ducky said: jojo_kyle said: Normally trains simply slow down and come in, when trains are on time they workers are there at the bridge waiting, they drop the bridge and the train comes in nice smooth every single time for 20 years straight. There is absolutely no reason for them to ever expect a bunch of zombies to hijack a train, it's not stupidity it's them just following the routine that has worked perfectly fine for 2 decades. Human stupidity wasn't a play here, just their basic train schedule and structure. From the way you're wording it I'll assume you know a lot more about the anime than I do... But either way, did you not see the fighting scene? All it would take would be one or two people getting bit and neglecting to tell the others about it in a last ditch effort to save their lives to overrun a train. If they were smart AT ALL, they would assume the worst for EVERY train. This is a post-apocalyptic world here, not friendly fred delivering honey buns. A modern comparison, if you live in the middle east and a plane comes in out each day with routine check ups. Would you expect a terrorist or plane to explode each time a plane arrives? No, there is caution, but things happen. Unexpected disasters aren't always to be blamed on poor management. How would they know zombies could pilot a damn train? |
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HalAnime said: -Ducky said: From the way you're wording it I'll assume you know a lot more about the anime than I do... But either way, did you not see the fighting scene? All it would take would be one or two people getting bit and neglecting to tell the others about it in a last ditch effort to save their lives to overrun a train. If they were smart AT ALL, they would assume the worst for EVERY train. This is a post-apocalyptic world here, not friendly fred delivering honey buns. A modern comparison, if you live in the middle east and a plane comes in out each day with routine check ups. Would you expect a terrorist or plane to explode each time a plane arrives? No, there is caution, but things happen. Unexpected disasters aren't always to be blamed on poor management. How would they know zombies could pilot a damn train? Trains don't work like that. If the engineer operating the train was killed and nobody touched the controls, it would just keep going. (as it did) That analogy doesn't work very well, because a U.N. plane going to a U.N. safe-house doesn't encounter flying terrorists that latch onto the plane and if they injure you you turn into a terrorist. |
| damn....that was unexpectedly lit |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| I was pretty hooked the whole episode. The MC's a logical thinker and pretty badass as well. Like shit, slashed his arm just to test out the weapon. Test. Hell, all that self-abuse he did just to stop the infection. Friggin hell. But yeah, I also wanna know how the infection works exactly like everyone else. Maybe it differs from person to person, or maybe they were just a bit inconsistent there. Also, it seems like there's some special exceptions of people who can go hand-to-hand with the Kabane? I noticed in the OP, another girl pulling off a ribbon around her neck. Not sure exactly what it signifies, but the girl with the spiked sandals did the same. I'll just assume for now that there's some people with superhuman strength due to something. Maybe they were infected then recovered from it like the MC. It's only the first episode so it's a bit too soon to judge In any case, that was a pretty strong start. I loved the Egoist op as well |
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| Started 1 day earlier? well, not complaining...Much. Let's see if this is SnK Copy or not. SO, MC wants power to defeat those Zombies. ( I think Kabane's are the Big ones, Small one are just Zombies) wait..so far whe have not seen any Big Ones....so it's Zombie anime more that Giant Titans... huh...but still strike the certain spot to kill... well nice to see that they did not censor this that much. Damn, Japanese Middle age Samurai Spirit is strong in this. So...when we start to bet when the MC gets infected? Previews/Trailers showed that he will get something at least. ah..SO MC is not part of the Samurai Class or Bushi...OK..he has long way to prove himself to Warriors....that is in reality Mission impossible in this Era Japan....Samurai Class did not take non blooded in their Ranks....Class system is sure as hell ruling here. Seiyu's are fitting to their characters....let's see what the Opening is like.... So far...this has Potential...let's hope the Train continues it's journey to greatness |
JarjaxleApr 7, 2016 4:54 PM
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-Ducky said: jojo_kyle said: Normally trains simply slow down and come in, when trains are on time they workers are there at the bridge waiting, they drop the bridge and the train comes in nice smooth every single time for 20 years straight. There is absolutely no reason for them to ever expect a bunch of zombies to hijack a train, it's not stupidity it's them just following the routine that has worked perfectly fine for 2 decades. Human stupidity wasn't a play here, just their basic train schedule and structure. From the way you're wording it I'll assume you know a lot more about the anime than I do... But either way, did you not see the fighting scene? All it would take would be one or two people getting bit and neglecting to tell the others about it in a last ditch effort to save their lives to overrun a train. If they were smart AT ALL, they would assume the worst for EVERY train. This is a post-apocalyptic world here, not friendly fred delivering honey buns. The idea is kabaneri are mindless idiots, there is more than one conductor,and it takes over 24 hours to 72(3 days exactly) for them to completely change. Which is why people that get bit are exposed during the inspection. |
| Pretty decent 7/10 for ep. |
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HalAnime said: A modern comparison, if you live in the middle east and a plane comes in out each day with routine check ups. Would you expect a terrorist or plane to explode each time a plane arrives? No, there is caution, but things happen. Unexpected disasters aren't always to be blamed on poor management. How would they know zombies could pilot a damn train? Your comparison is flawed because you cannot separate an infiltrating terrorist with a regular passenger in normal situation. Also, how do you know they don't know whether Kabane are intelligent or not? The anime hasn't given any hint so far so your assumption is flawed as well unless it's revealed. |
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| Jesus christ why did they open the gate without even verifying? Seems pretty retarded and contrived when you consider how the show portrayed everyone as really paranoid and cautious people. But besides that, I'm curious about that virus and why it suddenly stopped spreading in the end. The art and animation looked pretty good but there were times you could notice the inconsistencies. Considering they had 4 (or 5?) animation directors and three episode directors just for the first episode while still having some issues, I won't be surprised if the quality heavily takes a dip somewhere in the middle like Attack on Titan. Heck they didn't even finish animating the opening lol. 3/5 |
| Really well done first episode. TYxTxYT said: 7/10 for it's plot holes, but damn this production quality is among the gods What plot holes? Not everything must be explained in first episode. Do you have attention span of a squirrel? DrBlock42 said: That's what I thought, but the virus clearly spread over the collar. That would mean that it got through it... I'm not a biologist, but I'm pretty sure Viruses infect cells and manipulates them in a way, that they start to produce new viruses instead of reproducing - that means that viruses don't care if they affected anything. They simply start infecting as much of you as they can. And I'm pretty sure that compressing your neck so hard, that even blood can't traverse it would kill you, or at least break a lot of important parts of your body. So the only possible explanation is, that the MC is wrong about it being a virus and it's something like a organism, an intelligent collective - but even this explanation leaves some plot holes. PS: I would have prefered that the MC would have cut of his arm^^ Explanation is simple: their viruses aren't like real. Each zombie fiction can have their own rules about sickness. HalAnime said: + For a hot blooded shounen MC, I actually like him since he's intelligent enough to back up most of his actions. He's not a shounen MC. It's not a manga adaptation, it's anime original so it doesn't have fixed demographics. |
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| Started off pretty decent, I really like the MC though, love how he's like an engineer/scientist but I have to say I'm kinda letdown by the soundtrack produced for this anime (so far) or it's just me having so high expectations of Sawano. |
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| A lot more promising than AoT which, admittedly, wouldn't be hard. but as a show that is so similar, this just gets so much more right - thus far anyway. pacing was spot on, the ridiculousness pitch perfect. animation was unfortunately pretty ugly at times but the setting is gorgeous and seems far richer than AoT's. The protagonist is more exciting and generally more bearable than Eren. Please last. |
jojo_kyle said: -Ducky said: From the way you're wording it I'll assume you know a lot more about the anime than I do... But either way, did you not see the fighting scene? All it would take would be one or two people getting bit and neglecting to tell the others about it in a last ditch effort to save their lives to overrun a train. If they were smart AT ALL, they would assume the worst for EVERY train. This is a post-apocalyptic world here, not friendly fred delivering honey buns. The idea is kabaneri are mindless idiots, there is more than one conductor,and it takes over 24 hours to 72(3 days exactly) for them to completely change. Which is why people that get bit are exposed during the inspection. Have you read the manga or something? I thought it wasn't out yet. (that's what it says on mal anyway) Well assuming it takes 1-3 days to turn, wtf was the scene with the mc all about then? He turned in like 2 minutes tops. And having more than one conductor doesn't matter, if the train was infested, it's likely that everyone inside would die, as they did. (really not sure how multiple operators is relevant tbh) |
| Hmm. Kinda speechles right now. Not because it was so good, or even bad. Just can't say anything just from just watching first chapter. Never happened before.. |
She wasn't awesome at all, she's going to be so annoying |
-Ducky said: jojo_kyle said: The idea is kabaneri are mindless idiots, there is more than one conductor,and it takes over 24 hours to 72(3 days exactly) for them to completely change. Which is why people that get bit are exposed during the inspection. Have you read the manga or something? I thought it wasn't out yet. (that's what it says on mal anyway) Well assuming it takes 1-3 days to turn, wtf was the scene with the mc all about then? He turned in like 2 minutes tops. And having more than one conductor doesn't matter, if the train was infested, it's likely that everyone inside would die, as they did. (really not sure how multiple operators is relevant tbh) No this is anime original. I don't know where he even got that info from. |
shanimebib said: HalAnime said: A modern comparison, if you live in the middle east and a plane comes in out each day with routine check ups. Would you expect a terrorist or plane to explode each time a plane arrives? No, there is caution, but things happen. Unexpected disasters aren't always to be blamed on poor management. How would they know zombies could pilot a damn train? Your comparison is flawed because you cannot separate an infiltrating terrorist with a regular passenger in normal situation. Also, how do you know they don't know whether Kabane are intelligent or not? The anime hasn't given any hint so far so your assumption is flawed as well unless it's revealed. Oh come on ! Who would expect zombie-like blood thirsty creature to be intelligent ? Of course they don't think so . How can they expect a kabane to operate a train and have it arrive on time ? Didn't they add that scene of the kabane sitting in the operating room for some reason ? |
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-Ducky said: Have you read the manga or something? I thought it wasn't out yet. (that's what it says on mal anyway) Well assuming it takes 1-3 days to turn, wtf was the scene with the mc all about then? He turned in like 2 minutes tops. And having more than one conductor doesn't matter, if the train was infested, it's likely that everyone inside would die, as they did. (really not sure how multiple operators is relevant tbh) The manga won't come out in Japan before May 2, 2016. I am not sure where we are getting the 24-72 hours from. I guess some people have access to Fuji TV because the anime is TV Original and not adapted from another source. DragonSlayer_19 said: shanimebib said: Your comparison is flawed because you cannot separate an infiltrating terrorist with a regular passenger in normal situation. Also, how do you know they don't know whether Kabane are intelligent or not? The anime hasn't given any hint so far so your assumption is flawed as well unless it's revealed. Oh come on ! Who would expect zombie-like blood thirsty creature to be intelligent ? Of course they don't think so . How can they expect a kabane to operate a train and have it arrive on time ? Didn't they add that scene of the kabane sitting in the operating room for some reason ? That's the thing. How do we know that THEY don't know whether Kabane are intelligent or not? Just because they have zombie traits, it doesn't mean they are the hollywood zombies we know. edit: added spoiler tag. |
shanimebibApr 7, 2016 4:58 PM
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| Honestly? Thought it was rubbish. This may just be me being jaded but I can't stand Araki's over the top, EVERYONE IS SCREAMING ALL THE TIME direction anymore. It tries for bombast but to me it's just incredibly irritating. |
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| Mumei is a badass. I also really like the MC, I was expecting a carbon copy of Eren. Glad I got different. Can't wait for ep 2, one of my more favorable ep 1 impressions of the season. |
| They couldve chopped off the guys arm before the infection spread instead of forcing him to suicide. And how does the virus spread so fast, then suddenly recede if it doesnt reach the brain quick enough?... and dayum that was the most badass decapitation ive seen. |
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