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DamnThatsTheSpot said: who're you maining at GO currently,guyz I'm sticking with Jing Ke for now. I wanted to reroll but then I didn't because insta kill NP and the Assassins's "screw wyverns and riders" ability is a godsend in Orleans. |
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Sherou said: Please stop feeding the shinji troll guys. All you're doing is giving him fuel for his "lol this is a porn game shounen and its fans get butthurt quickly" shtick. Implying that this isn't a porn game that caters to immature otakus :p Fate/Zero is phenomenal. F/SN on the other hand, is garbage with poor writing and insufferable characters. Anyone who even dares to have a negative opinion will be thoroughly attacked by you fans. So yes, F/SN fans do get butthurt much too easily. |
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ZeroDragon said: F/Z is also trash. fate in general is shit. it only appeals to shounin fagboys and emos boys trying to fulfill their angst fetishesSherou said: Please stop feeding the shinji troll guys. All you're doing is giving him fuel for his "lol this is a porn game shounen and its fans get butthurt quickly" shtick. Implying that this isn't a porn game that caters to immature otakus :p Fate/Zero is phenomenal. F/SN on the other hand, is garbage with poor writing and insufferable characters. Anyone who even dares to have a negative opinion will be thoroughly attacked by you fans. So yes, F/SN fans do get butthurt much too easily. |
Maloghurst said: ZeroDragon said: F/Z is also trash. fate in general is shit. it only appeals to shounin fagboys and emos boys trying to fulfill their angst fetishesImplying that this isn't a porn game that caters to immature otakus :p Fate/Zero is phenomenal. F/SN on the other hand, is garbage with poor writing and insufferable characters. Anyone who even dares to have a negative opinion will be thoroughly attacked by you fans. So yes, F/SN fans do get butthurt much too easily. you need to really work hard to get on BR level though..Your GE efforts were far superior |
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DamnThatsTheSpot said: who're you maining at GO currently,guyz Ransa obviously, keeping Mephistopheles as second because his special is good enough to wipe trash monsters quickly Shieldier is such a mary sue special snow flake that I hope I never have to use her too much. That is till I get my luck to get 4 stars |
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| I'm hoping that "mary sue" statement comes from actual knowledge of the text, and not a generic "I don't like it therefore it's a (insert buzzword here)" post. Can someone confirm that Shielder is in fact a mary sue? Damnit I really need to make a beastlair account, who on here has one and who are you there? |
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| How does archer come back? He obviously died by Gildamesh. Those who have read the source material, any ideas? Forgetfulness said: Holy fuck do people even pay attention to this show? Shirou explained completely how UBW overpowers Gate of Babylon specifically... If you think you can infer that Gil > Herc and Shirou > Gil, then Shirou > Herc, then you completely missed the point of the counters. I would suggest either rewatching the show and actually take it seriously this time, or instead watch some dumb shounen show where you can not pay attention to any of the explanations and still derive some sort of entertainment. |
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WisestOne said: How does archer come back? He obviously died by Gildamesh. Those who have read the source material, any ideas? Forgetfulness said: Holy fuck do people even pay attention to this show? Shirou explained completely how UBW overpowers Gate of Babylon specifically... If you think you can infer that Gil > Herc and Shirou > Gil, then Shirou > Herc, then you completely missed the point of the counters. I would suggest either rewatching the show and actually take it seriously this time, or instead watch some dumb shounen show where you can not pay attention to any of the explanations and still derive some sort of entertainment. Pause the show when Gil's weapons hit Archer, you'll see how most of them missed and don't forget Archer can go into spirit form. VN explanation is different from Anime explanation |
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WisestOne said: How does archer come back? He obviously died by Gildamesh. Those who have read the source material, any ideas? Independent Action-Class skill of archers to allow them to go a few days without a master +Leftover Casters mana +Gilgamesh's weapons didn't destroy his spiritual core |
Forgetfulness said: Lol yea. I think the format that I posted made it look a bit weird. I was simply agreeingHe didn't die from Gilgamesh. Well, he wasn't hit in any vital parts, and then after that he just went into Spirit Form and escaped, and then survived on whatever mana he had remaining until ep. 12 It's kind of a (read: a huge) stretch, especially in the anime, but that's basically the explanation also, not sure why you random quoted my post and then didn't say anything ._. Unless you were agreeing with it |
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| lets just say Archer has battle continuation.....it's so much easier..it makes sense with what all archer has diplayed throughout F/SN.....why not. WHY THE FUCK DOESNT HE HAVE BATTLE CONTINUATION |
Maloghurst said: lets just say Archer has battle continuation.....it's so much easier..it makes sense with what all archer has diplayed throughout F/SN.....why not. WHY THE FUCK DOESNT HE HAVE BATTLE CONTINUATION Because Nasu? Idk? |
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Insertanamehere said: WisestOne said: How does archer come back? He obviously died by Gildamesh. Those who have read the source material, any ideas? Independent Action-Class skill of archers to allow them to go a few days without a master +Leftover Casters mana +Gilgamesh's weapons didn't destroy his spiritual core What left over mana? he cast fucking UBW TWICE He should be running on fumes. |
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CookingPriest said: Well he did disapear at the endInsertanamehere said: Independent Action-Class skill of archers to allow them to go a few days without a master +Leftover Casters mana +Gilgamesh's weapons didn't destroy his spiritual core What left over mana? he cast fucking UBW TWICE He should be running on fumes. |
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| With the shit he pulled, he should have keeled over the moment answer fight ended. There's no excuse in ufoUBW on why he would survive as long as he did and still have enough strength to do the things he did at the end. |
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Maloghurst said: lets just say Archer has battle continuation.....it's so much easier..it makes sense with what all archer has diplayed throughout F/SN.....why not. WHY THE FUCK DOESNT HE HAVE BATTLE CONTINUATION +1 |
| Even with an intense end battle like this the pacing is seriously off, I've seriously never got how they always tend to screw the pacing over this much but they did it again... Oh well at least there's only one more episode left. |
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| Weakshiro became Strongshiro, huh. One of the best fights in the Fate series in my opinion, maybe even the best. Most of them are fights where Gilgamesh is one of the fighters so not that unexpected that this one was good as well. Maybe best fight was Shiro vs Gilgamesh or Gilgamesh vs Rider, I can't decide, they were both amazing. |
CookingPriest said: With the shit he pulled, he should have keeled over the moment answer fight ended. There's no excuse in ufoUBW on why he would survive as long as he did and still have enough strength to do the things he did at the end. I agree. Fucking asspull, but w/e I was totally sold on his death for a hile, but with no explanation, we only have speculation. Good plot hole noticed. |
_Dazzle_ said: CookingPriest said: With the shit he pulled, he should have keeled over the moment answer fight ended. There's no excuse in ufoUBW on why he would survive as long as he did and still have enough strength to do the things he did at the end. I agree. Fucking asspull, but w/e I was totally sold on his death for a hile, but with no explanation, we only have speculation. Good plot hole noticed. To be honest, most VN readers saw that plot hole for several miles away. :P Even in source it's debatable, but believable with some stretching of the rules... but in anime? Hell no. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
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b1GZZ said: Weakshiro became Strongshiro, huh. One of the best fights in the Fate series in my opinion, maybe even the best. Most of them are fights where Gilgamesh is one of the fighters so not that unexpected that this one was good as well. Maybe best fight was Shiro vs Gilgamesh or Gilgamesh vs Rider, I can't decide, they were both amazing. I'm usually of the opposite opinion in that I feel like most fights involving Gil are the worst. Well, that's not true, it's more that Gil is the worst part of any fight he's in, because he's either just standing there spamming sword rains or awkwardly swordfighting/dancing/posing/whatever you call what he was dong in DEEN!UBW. The only exceptions to me are the dogfight in Zero and his final fight with Saber in Fate because he actually moved in those. One issue I had with the fights is they were a bit too heavily one-sided or back and forth. They were amusing to watch, don't get me wrong, but I've always found that there was more tension when the combatants were equal and one right/wrong move could decide victory or defeat. Something like Saber vs Lancer in Zero or Archer vs Lancer in UBW. |
AllenNoah said: b1GZZ said: Weakshiro became Strongshiro, huh. One of the best fights in the Fate series in my opinion, maybe even the best. Most of them are fights where Gilgamesh is one of the fighters so not that unexpected that this one was good as well. Maybe best fight was Shiro vs Gilgamesh or Gilgamesh vs Rider, I can't decide, they were both amazing. I'm usually of the opposite opinion in that I feel like most fights involving Gil are the worst. Well, that's not true, it's more that Gil is the worst part of any fight he's in, because he's either just standing there spamming sword rains or awkwardly swordfighting/dancing/posing/whatever you call what he was dong in DEEN!UBW. The only exceptions to me are the dogfight in Zero and his final fight with Saber in Fate because he actually moved in those. One issue I had with the fights is they were a bit too heavily one-sided or back and forth. They were amusing to watch, don't get me wrong, but I've always found that there was more tension when the combatants were equal and one right/wrong move could decide victory or defeat. Something like Saber vs Lancer in Zero or Archer vs Lancer in UBW. Gil makes every fight worse he is just stands there and spam in the corner long range. Its not even a fight 90% of the time its just a mongrel avoiding his weapons and trying to reach him. |
NOFUCO said: Wild_Lynx said: At 16:55 they made it looks like Gilgamesh was hesitating to use EA, which is kind of bullshit in this life and death situation. And not like he has enough time to activate the EA's power against Shirou's charge, As it should be I still find it ridiculous how Shirou managed to defeat him Oi oi .Gilgamesh's ego is so huge that the contents of the grail pouring on him was not enough to corrupt him .It's not so unbelievable .Also ,if its just killing Shirou ,Ea won't take so long to activate |
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Evildragon16 said: NOFUCO said: As it should be I still find it ridiculous how Shirou managed to defeat him Oi oi .Gilgamesh's ego is so huge that the contents of the grail pouring on him was not enough to corrupt him .It's not so unbelievable .Also ,if its just killing Shirou ,Ea won't take so long to activate Actually no. By the time UBW is cast, Gil has no time to actually activate EA or put on the armor because he is getting completely pushed back. The whole point of the fight is pushing GIl to melee 100% of the time being unable to do anything special. THe moment UBW is cast, it has nothing to do with Gil's ego. Shirou of course would lose instantly if he let Gil out of close range and into mid range(ignore what anime fight has in it). Gil's ego was not finishing him off before UBW was cast. |
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CookingPriest said: Evildragon16 said: Oi oi .Gilgamesh's ego is so huge that the contents of the grail pouring on him was not enough to corrupt him .It's not so unbelievable .Also ,if its just killing Shirou ,Ea won't take so long to activate Actually no. By the time UBW is cast, Gil has no time to actually activate EA or put on the armor because he is getting completely pushed back. The whole point of the fight is pushing GIl to melee 100% of the time being unable to do anything special. THe moment UBW is cast, it has nothing to do with Gil's ego. Shirou of course would lose instantly if he let Gil out of close range and into mid range(ignore what anime fight has in it). Gil's ego was not finishing him off before UBW was cast. Thing is he doesn't need to really charge EA to kill Shirou..A half hearted blast is enough .I mean the only reason why Shirou survived that half ass attempt was because the Rho Aias appeared out of nowhere from Gil's perspective.He will not fall for the same thing twice. |
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laidellent said: CookingPriest said: Actually no. By the time UBW is cast, Gil has no time to actually activate EA or put on the armor because he is getting completely pushed back. The whole point of the fight is pushing GIl to melee 100% of the time being unable to do anything special. THe moment UBW is cast, it has nothing to do with Gil's ego. Shirou of course would lose instantly if he let Gil out of close range and into mid range(ignore what anime fight has in it). Gil's ego was not finishing him off before UBW was cast. Thing is he doesn't need to really charge EA to kill Shirou..A half hearted blast is enough .I mean the only reason why Shirou survived that half ass attempt was because the Rho Aias appeared out of nowhere from Gil's perspective.He will not fall for the same thing twice. He does not have time to pull it out in ubw - you see what happens when he tries. He loses an arm. He can only defend as long as Shirou keeps pushing melee barrage without a break. All Gil has time for is to pull out swords in his hand to block Shirou's slashes(since rest of GOB is too busy clashing against ubw). If Shirou would slow down or increase range for even a second, he would be fucked that instant though(hence why everyone has the problem with ridiculous rho aias surfing bullshit and other shit here - if Shirou fought the way he did in anime, he would be dead in a millisecond). |
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CookingPriest said: laidellent said: Thing is he doesn't need to really charge EA to kill Shirou..A half hearted blast is enough .I mean the only reason why Shirou survived that half ass attempt was because the Rho Aias appeared out of nowhere from Gil's perspective.He will not fall for the same thing twice. He does not have time to pull it out in ubw - you see what happens when he tries. He loses an arm. He can only defend as long as Shirou keeps pushing melee barrage without a break. All Gil has time for is to pull out swords in his hand to block Shirou's slashes(since rest of GOB is too busy clashing against ubw). If Shirou would slow down or increase range for even a second, he would be fucked that instant though(hence why everyone has the problem with ridiculous rho aias surfing bullshit and other shit here - if Shirou fought the way he did in anime, he would be dead in a millisecond). Rule of cool m8 |
SwiftKilla said: I'm curious. In the VN apparently the hole left by the grail started to absorb Gil inside the reality marble, but in the anime it's after UBW deactivated. This is where I'm confused, could the holy grail actually suck Gil in within Shirou's reality marble? I thought reality marbles completely shut off any influence from the real world, so was it impossible for Gil to be absorbed by the grail in the RM in the 1st place? Maybe that's why they did it that way, I don't see any reason to make the sequence reversed other than to fix a flaw in the VN logic. I can't see them doing it the way it did coz "hurr durr gotta pump in more shounen cliches" It happened right when he Shirou is about to own Gilgamesh in the VN. We do not know if RM was gone or shattering because of itself or because of the grail. The change was just done to make Shirou look worse(just like end of Answer stabbing and everything in regards to Shirou). We can't have Gil look pitiful and frantic so let's make him congratulate the idiot shounen and have idiot shounen be saved by plot armor. |
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CookingPriest said: SwiftKilla said: I'm curious. In the VN apparently the hole left by the grail started to absorb Gil inside the reality marble, but in the anime it's after UBW deactivated. This is where I'm confused, could the holy grail actually suck Gil in within Shirou's reality marble? I thought reality marbles completely shut off any influence from the real world, so was it impossible for Gil to be absorbed by the grail in the RM in the 1st place? Maybe that's why they did it that way, I don't see any reason to make the sequence reversed other than to fix a flaw in the VN logic. I can't see them doing it the way it did coz "hurr durr gotta pump in more shounen cliches" It happened right when he Shirou is about to own Gilgamesh in the VN. We do not know if RM was gone or shattering because of itself or because of the grail. The change was just done to make Shirou look worse(just like end of Answer stabbing and everything in regards to Shirou). We can't have Gil look pitiful and frantic so let's make him congratulate the idiot shounen and have idiot shounen be saved by plot armor. [spoiler]Makes you wonder how they're gonna try and salvage him Heaven's Feel. If it were an anime or multiple movies, I'd say by drawing out her fear after eating him and playing up her desperation in converting him to mana. But if it's one move they just might have him kill Sakura, show him walking away then we hear a noise, he turns around, "Wha-" happens, Shadow (lol) comes across the screen, end scene.[spoiler] |
AllenNoah said: CookingPriest said: It happened right when he Shirou is about to own Gilgamesh in the VN. We do not know if RM was gone or shattering because of itself or because of the grail. The change was just done to make Shirou look worse(just like end of Answer stabbing and everything in regards to Shirou). We can't have Gil look pitiful and frantic so let's make him congratulate the idiot shounen and have idiot shounen be saved by plot armor. [spoiler]Makes you wonder how they're gonna try and salvage him Heaven's Feel. If it were an anime or multiple movies, I'd say by drawing out her fear after eating him and playing up her desperation in converting him to mana. But if it's one move they just might have him kill Sakura, show him walking away then we hear a noise, he turns around, "Wha-" happens, Shadow (lol) comes across the screen, end scene.[spoiler] |
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CookingPriest said: When did this happen? |
Insertanamehere said: CookingPriest said: When did this happen? |
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CookingPriest said: Insertanamehere said: When did this happen? Oh wow, I didn't even remembered this, sasuga Nasu |
MightyM16 said: CookingPriest said: Oh wow, I didn't even remembered this, sasuga Nasu IF this was not an episode thread I'd link the VN screncap of it. Its an old discussion and one of many many things I despise about HF Shirou. |
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MightyM16 said: CookingPriest said: Oh wow, I didn't even remembered this, sasuga Nasu Nah, that's just him imagining the scene how he wants to see it so he can shit on HF more. |
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LittleGaoNov 8, 2015 3:07 PM
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LittleGao said: I always thought that But don't take my word for it, I was only going off of VN narration and not CP's absolutely correct headcanon Stop posting shit written by Nasu. Nasu's writing is shit when compared to Fai's headcanon canon interpretation |
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Sherou said: InterpretationLittleGao said: I always thought that But don't take my word for it, I was only going off of VN narration and not CP's absolutely correct headcanon Stop posting shit written by Nasu. Nasu's writing is shit when compared to Fai's headcanon canon interpretation What interpretation What he writes is one true absolute canon |
LittleGaoNov 8, 2015 9:43 PM
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| Glad to see nothing has changed..... Fai's headcanon is law |
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| I give up trying to debate with harassers who ignore what is written in VN to jutify how OMGGREATHF IS AND HOW GREAT UBW ADAPTATION IS. Its hilarious how people ignore what is writetn in that route. HF BEST ROUTE. GG Discussion end. :) |
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| >LittleGao posts actual VN quotes CookingPriest said: I give up trying to debate with harassers who ignore what is written in VN Ayyyylmao |
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CookingPriest said: I give up trying to debate with harassers who ignore what is written in VN to jutify how OMGGREATHF IS AND HOW GREAT UBW ADAPTATION IS. Its hilarious how people ignore what is writetn in that route. HF BEST ROUTE. GG Discussion end. :) You are the only one harassing people though |
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KamiCity said: CookingPriest said: I give up trying to debate with harassers who ignore what is written in VN to jutify how OMGGREATHF IS AND HOW GREAT UBW ADAPTATION IS. Its hilarious how people ignore what is writetn in that route. HF BEST ROUTE. GG Discussion end. :) You are the only one harassing people though I just find it funny how he's still on these boards when he hates this adaptation with every fiber of his being. |
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sanata50lbsb said: Venting about obscure weeaboo shit you don't like on anonymous message boards is actually pretty fun tbhI just find it funny how he's still on these boards when he hates this adaptation with every fiber of his being. You can't really judge it until you try it |
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| Holy shit, that last fight was freakin' epic. ufotable and their animation.. Archer with the last arrow to finish Gilgamesh off was so badass. "Do so if you wish, but step to the right first" Those one liners hahaha. Great episode after a few okay ones. Funny that it'd be the episode that Archer came back :p |
LittleGao said: sanata50lbsb said: Venting about obscure weeaboo shit you don't like on anonymous message boards is actually pretty fun tbhI just find it funny how he's still on these boards when he hates this adaptation with every fiber of his being. You can't really judge it until you try it It's Fai, he's here to force broadcast his opinion, and Alaya help you if you go against his headcanon. Ando- said: Holy shit, that last fight was freakin' epic. ufotable and their animation.. Archer with the last arrow to finish Gilgamesh off was so badass. "Do so if you wish, but step to the right first" Those one liners hahaha. Great episode after a few okay ones. Funny that it'd be the episode that Archer came back :p Glad you loved it as much as I did, I was just dumbfounded the first time I watched the episode. VN remixes, ufo graphics, swordspam galore... :3 |
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OneTrueBaita said: LittleGao said: Venting about obscure weeaboo shit you don't like on anonymous message boards is actually pretty fun tbh You can't really judge it until you try it It's Fai, he's here to force broadcast his opinion, and Alaya help you if you go against his headcanon. Ando- said: Holy shit, that last fight was freakin' epic. ufotable and their animation.. Archer with the last arrow to finish Gilgamesh off was so badass. "Do so if you wish, but step to the right first" Those one liners hahaha. Great episode after a few okay ones. Funny that it'd be the episode that Archer came back :p Glad you loved it as much as I did, I was just dumbfounded the first time I watched the episode. VN remixes, ufo graphics, swordspam galore... :3 THIS |
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