LoneWizard said: TheNaturalPerm said: With that kind of generalisation you can also mistake Kara No Kyoukai(Which is another LN adaptation) as a magical Highschool Anime ...Which wouldnt be a good thing to do...*sigh* where did I say that? Nice ad hominem though; great response. Seriously there is not one well written magical highschool anime out there and nearly all of them are based on light novels. What is that if not a pitch-black flag. Always strange to see people defend these copy paste shows. Also you said that when you declared LN=Shit I said usually. "being a light novel is USUALLY enough" Learn to read. |
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| love the manga looking forward to this :) though quite "average" op song. |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Fair enough,sorry for overreactingI said usually. "being a light novel is USUALLY enough" TheNaturalPerm said: Please refrain from making remarks like this that can be mistaken as an insult...We dont need any more agression in this thread imoLearn to read. |
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| ^ok sorry from me as well regarding what XxxdragonslayerxxX said: It is indeed kind of upsetting that the very same low quality show gets made each and every season and commenting on that doesn't require a lot of time. Also if you thin I'm wrong about trashing LN with that setting, please try naming one magic highschool anime that has "ok" character writing and story. That should already be hard enough. Characters orgasming over how awesome Tatsuya is, does not equal ok writing btw. |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Since its the "popular" setting nowadays there are lots of shitty shows obviously...But that doesnt make all bad...please try naming one magic highschool anime that has "ok" character writing and story. That should already be hard enough. Characters orgasming over how awesome Tatsuya is, does not equal ok writing btw. Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei Strike The Blood Tokyo Ravens Index these were "ok" if not "good" so magic highschool=/=shit...Well maybe for soem of you guys out there but that doesnt make it a fact |
LoneWizzyAug 13, 2015 11:28 AM
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LoneWizard said: TheNaturalPerm said: Since its the "popular" setting nowadays there are lots of shitty shows obviously...But that doesnt make all bad...please try naming one magic highschool anime that has "ok" character writing and story. That should already be hard enough. Characters orgasming over how awesome Tatsuya is, does not equal ok writing btw. Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei Strike The Blood Tokyo Ravens these were "ok" if not "good" so magic highschool=/=shit...Well maybe for soem of you guys out there but that doesnt make it a fact I have not finished Inou Battle so I can't comment on that. Strongly disagree on Strike the Blood. That was basically Campione with biting the girls instead of kissing them. Tokyo Ravens was kind of okay I guess...Alright. |
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| ^ TheNaturalPerm is not one of the usual "New animu announcement?Lets bait casuals" group(Or not as active as others,who knows)...So i think you are overreacting a little over there You are doing the same thing you complain right now...You are insulting him because of his taste...Try to be better than what you hate ^_^ |
LoneWizzyAug 13, 2015 11:34 AM
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| funny how on most sites the anime that gets the most comments and views are usually the harem ecchi light novels but ppl still continue to be surprised by y they keep adapting these stuff btw fuck the haters based silver link got this shit on lock |
| One does not need to read the source material to judge an anime. Only 3 of those have an anime adaption. Out of those 3 only one is not poop. So Shinmai Maou no Breastament counts as one of the very best titles for the magical highschool genre huh? May the old and new gods have mercy. Tokyo Ravens doesn't go full retard so that counts as an okay title. Awesome! Mahouka is quite trash though. The main character barely counts as one since he's an unfailable stoic gary sue archetype and rarely says anything besides info dumping the crap out of the audience. The concept of "show, don't tell" is utterly ignored. Exposition goes like this: "Oh dear brother! As you know I am your sister and the student council runs this place. You surely are aware that there'll be a magical tournament over the next few days" Other characters usually don't do anything besides praising Tatsuya for saving the day and performing jesus miracles. Little sister is the worst in that regard and her only function is to be the little sister incest otaku fantasy. Any kind of tension is denied from the get-go by Tatsuya's existence. He's god anyway. And I'm still more shocked to see Shinmai on your list. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: Anime is a standalone adaptation. You should never have the need to read the manga/LN/book etc. to fully understand a show.> One does not need to read the source material to judge an anime. Thanks for confirming that your shitposting should be taken with a grain of salt. One's biased comments/criticisms can not be taken seriously unless you have read the source, much more true for LN adaptations since most of them are rushed or butchered. |
| it looks very nice i can't wait :) |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Refer to my original post in this thread. Fans of shows like this are very delusional and defensive over the stuff they enjoy. I personally love shows like this (meaning the one this news topic was created about). They're incredibly trashy, silly and I have a great appreciation for irony. An example I use is Godzilla movies. I adore Godzilla movies, but they have shoddy production values, terrible writing, even worse acting and the special effects are cheesy at best. With all the flaws, I can still enjoy something inherently bad, admit it's bad but still enjoy it for what it is. LN fans can't do that. |
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-Anabelle- said: Its true that to judge an anime you dont need to read source material,but you cant judge the source material by just watching the anime.....Dragon_Slayer_X said: Anime is a standalone adaptation. You should never have the need to read the manga/LN/book etc. to fully understand a show.> One does not need to read the source material to judge an anime. Thanks for confirming that your shitposting should be taken with a grain of salt. One's biased comments/criticisms can not be taken seriously unless you have read the source, much more true for LN adaptations since most of them are rushed or butchered. Still i dont know why you guys are talking about this tho...Nobody here watched the anime for obvious reasons so there is no way anyone here has right to judge anything without reading the source material |
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LoneWizard said: Well I didn't read their long argument completely but I thought that Dragon_Slayer_X sounded like that they implied that anime cannot be reviewed without reading the source material. Which is definitely not true. But I could've been mistaken. I'm not trying to make more arguments here.-Anabelle- said: Its true that to judge an anime you dont need to read source material,but you cant judge the source material by just watching the anime.....Anime is a standalone adaptation. You should never have the need to read the manga/LN/book etc. to fully understand a show. Still i dont know why you guys are talking about this tho...Nobody here watched the anime for obvious reasons so there is no way anyone here has right to judge anything without reading the source material |
Raina-Aug 13, 2015 12:24 PM
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Yeah I completely understand that. I just didn't read your argument fully and thought that you meant that anime cannot be reviewed unless you read the source material (which we all know is not true since anime is a standalone adaptation). Sorry about that.-Anabelle- said: Anime is a standalone adaptation. You should never have the need to read the manga/LN/book etc. to fully understand a show. At the same time you should never say the show is bad because the source was bad without reading the source yourself...........something the haters like to do repeatedly. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Oh man buzzwords make the posts mostly worthless. Anyway....... > One does not need to read the source material to judge an anime. Thanks for confirming that your shitposting should be taken with a grain of salt. One's biased comments/criticisms can not be taken seriously unless you have read the source, much more true for LN adaptations since most of them are rushed or butchered. > So Shinmai Maou no Breastament Thanks again for confirming my earlier point about you see and bitch about what you want to see and disregard everything else. I am really grateful. For all your Mahouka bashing which is full of BS as usual, i will just say rushing 7 volumes of an exposition-heavy LN, cutting out monologues not to mention the staff focused on Miyuki too much and made her even more annoying, the adaptation is far from perfect. But other characters don't do anything.........please the anime already showed others are capable so you are already wrong. Well whatever you won't admit it anyway.........besides there was 20% infodump compared to the LNs which was one of the reasons it being bad. Just to be frank.......you not liking info dump is your own problem. I really don't care if you are shocked or not tbh. Have fun shitposting and throwing around generic buzzwords........i am done. That is the single worst comment I have seen in a while. Are you actually saying that you cannot judge a show if you haven't consumed ALL of the source material? To judge a show you only need to have seen the show. To judge a book you only need to have read the book. Your statement is beyond stupid. There is no other way to put it. My condolences. Also you do agree that the Mahouka anime is not really good huh? That's exceptionally funny. Your only defense was "THEY DIDN'T ADAPT THIS MASTERPIECE PROPERLY" I guess I agree. It's shit after all. The LN might be better. But the anime is still trash no matter how good the novel might be. "You don't like getting info dumped!". So you do? You tolerate that kind of lazy ass writing? What the hell... That was a very lousy defense I daresay. It seems you are actually the shitposter here. All you did was ignore my statements and say that I'm only shitposting anyway |
NaturalPermAug 13, 2015 12:34 PM
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lordzeru said: TheNaturalPerm said: Refer to my original post in this thread. Fans of shows like this are very delusional and defensive over the stuff they enjoy. I personally love shows like this (meaning the one this news topic was created about). They're incredibly trashy, silly and I have a great appreciation for irony. An example I use is Godzilla movies. I adore Godzilla movies, but they have shoddy production values, terrible writing, even worse acting and the special effects are cheesy at best. With all the flaws, I can still enjoy something inherently bad, admit it's bad but still enjoy it for what it is. LN fans can't do that. I wish more people had your kind of attitude...It's okay to admit that the thing you enjoy isn't the greatest thing in the world. |
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EasyGo-er said: Loli-Sazanami said: Matsuoka............again..........this is what i expected. He's not even one of the MCs. Do you want him to quit VA or what? lol Yes, he deserves to be quit and get a new job. Or maybe he`ll voice random fodder/background anime characters who always die in early episodes instead. lordzeru said: Upon going to search for the manga to read, I found this. http://puu.sh/jA7u0/eae10e0a68.png Good start. Take note of the tags for the manga. Seems other places have no issue labeling it as such. http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/06/07/r/read539349e0ca2e7/img000041.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZMJCEF-knJU/VSP0fLS9BzI/AAAAAAAAN0c/FMb9Fi86YW8/s16000/021.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CjefHCnaYKc/VVjAX59TuEI/AAAAAAACz8Y/iTmXFyV_ENk/s16000/018.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XEhmjmxevx4/VVjAYuV_CaI/AAAAAAACz8g/nVAbNtha4eU/s16000/019.png http://img2.mangasee.co/s/RakudaiKishiNoCavalry/0004-003.png ^ truth has been spoken. |
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lordzeru said: LN fans can't do that. lol'd....wtf is a LN fan? :D |
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| I said that adaptations of the medium usually result in crap. I didn't say the medium was crap. I'm only judging the goddamn cartoon here. You can't get that in your brain? You are the one turning words around here. No one agrees with you that you need to read a fking souce material to judge a show. That's nonsense and straight out wrong. You can't justify such an outright shitty statement. So you say the the adaptation is not good. That's what I was saying the whole time right? I wasn't insulting the source. I said the anime was shit. not the novel. I have only seen the anime after all. PS: I'm only talking about the anime remember? PSS: My statements are only targeted towards the anime adaptations of said titles. Only. the anime. version. which. is. not. good. I hate to use this again but it's appropriate here: Please read more carefully. |
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PS: I'm only talking about the anime remember? At this point it is obvious that you are talking about anime but the fact that he felt like you insulted the LN is also your fault:PSS: My statements are only targeted towards the anime adaptations of said titles. Only. the anime. version. which. is. not. good. A show doesn't need to be a harem to be shitty. Just being a Light Novel is usually enough. He probably just assumed that you are attacking the LN after that point#Mahouka |
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LoneWizard said: PS: I'm only talking about the anime remember? At this point it is obvious that you are talking about anime but the fact that he felt like you insulted the LN is also your fault:PSS: My statements are only targeted towards the anime adaptations of said titles. Only. the anime. version. which. is. not. good. A show doesn't need to be a harem to be shitty. Just being a Light Novel is usually enough. He probably just assumed that you are attacking the LN after that point#Mahouka Well I wasn't. What I meant with that statement was "being a light novel adaption is enough"... I made that clear in further elaboration though. He wasn't reading carefully. He didn't even believe me when I told him. Hilarious. |
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| An angry man+A post giving wrong impression+Other trolls bashing people beforehand=This situation people tend to read/think biased when angry...So isnt it time to wrap this up?You both are saying the same thing =_= You need to watch the anime to judge the anime You need to read the source to judge the source |
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lordzeru said: Grey-Zone said: What are you saying? This series is Not DARK, EDGY AND MATUUURE enough! We need cool smoking old men at night saying cool "philosphical" lines instead! How can you watch this "generic harem stuff" instead? You, sir, are going the wrong path! You must follow the DARK, EDGY AND MATUUURE path instead! Episodic throw-away stories from cowboy beepop for example! That is MATURITY! MATURITYYYYY! Listen. Metamorphius, being the mature gentlemen he is, is only allowed to watch Mature anime for Mature people like him. By Jove! I am grateful for your words, my fellow patrician, but now I feel I have failed you. You have such flattering words for me and...I just don't think I deserve them. However! I shall now proceed to remove worthless entries from my list such as Usagi Drop, Natsume Yuujinchou, Fuujin Monogatari, Sora no Woto (goodness gracious, what possessed me to watch this moeblob crap), Nodame Cantabile, Tatami Galaxy (I should've known that VAs speaking and animators drawing while on opiates would lead only to disappointments), Kuragehime and other immature, philistine time-wasters, and fill the list with far more worthwhile titles. The endeavor will undoubtedly not be an easy one, but I believe I can improve myself in due time. If you don't mind, I would love to use your list as guidance - especially those entries in a specific score range reserved for crème de la crème. |
metamorphiusAug 13, 2015 1:31 PM
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| Why does this particular series cause so much butthurt? There are so many other generic LN harem academy adaptations you could be mad at, but why this one? For the genre, it's probably the best there is. Granted, that doesn't mean it's good at all, but the main girl isn't annoying, there's actual romance, and the fights are decent. Yeah the series is nothing special at all, but I don't know why everyone is so angry at it when there's much worse out there coming. |
LoneWizard said: An angry man+A post giving wrong impression+Other trolls bashing people beforehand=This situation people tend to read/think biased when angry...So isnt it time to wrap this up?You both are saying the same thing =_= You need to watch the anime to judge the anime You need to read the source to judge the source He wouldn't have gotten the wrong impression had he not blindly rage commented and read what I wrote. When he wrote his list I sad "Only 3 of those have anime adaptations" so I only commented on those. Wasn't that ridiculously obvious that I'm not talking about the novels? Anyway It seems that I was right the whole time. Even fans of said series seem to agree that Magical highschool LN adaptations aren't really good. Banzai... |
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Hongu said: Thats why there is so much fight...Most people here hates all LN adaptations in every News thread...But they are usually right...But in this case they are wrong,because they are wrong people try to defend the series...Which causes all the meaningless arguments...Why does this particular series cause so much butthurt? There are so many other generic LN harem academy adaptations you could be mad at, but why this one? For the genre, it's probably the best there is. Granted, that doesn't mean it's good at all, but the main girl isn't annoying, there's actual romance, and the fights are decent. Yeah the series is nothing special at all, but I don't know why everyone is so angry at it when there's much worse out there coming. Note that im not even a huge fan of this series,i didnt even read LN...I just read the manga which is really fun and has good romance(I mostly read romance manga =_=) TheNaturalPerm said: Yeah,most of them are shit...Because there are WAY TOO MUCH LN adaptations using this setting...Even fans of said series seem to agree that Magical highschool LN adaptations aren't really good. Banzai... |
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LoneWizard said: lol'd....wtf is a LN fan? :D A LN fan is a light novel fan, such as yourself. Fans of light novels and/or their adaptations. metamorphius said: By Joves! I am grateful for your words, my fellow patrician, but now I feel I have failed you. You have such flattering words for me and...I just don't think I deserve them. However! I shall now proceed to remove worthless entries from my list such as Usagi Drop, Natsume Yuujinchou, Fuujin Monogatari, Sora no Woto (goodness gracious, what possessed me to watch this moeblob crap), Nodame Cantabile, Tatami Galaxy (I should've known that VAs speaking and animators drawing while on opiates would lead only to disappointments), Kuragehime and other immature, philistine time-wasters, and fill the list with far more worthwhile titles. The endeavor will undoubtedly not be an easy one, but I believe I can improve myself in due time. If you don't mind, I would love to use your list as guidance - especially those entries in a specific score range reserved for crème de la crème. By all means, comrade. If you need to be pointed in general direction of the works you may be looking for on my list, I would recommend sorting by score and checking out the works located in the 2-3/10 range. There's a good chance the good title this thread is dedicated to will probably be in said range as well! |
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LoneWizard said: 123Hentai said: I dont even want to know why you created a frickin account just to troll further in this thread...Just wow...I hope you get an IP ban or something ^_^hahaha Dragon Slayer!!! btw any site similar to creamytoon.com ????? I really like this kind of hentai videos I hope you didn't mean me. I don't do shit like that. Also I was online the whole time... |
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Loli-Sazanami said: lordzeru said: Upon going to search for the manga to read, I found this. http://puu.sh/jA7u0/eae10e0a68.png Good start. Take note of the tags for the manga. Seems other places have no issue labeling it as such. http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/06/07/r/read539349e0ca2e7/img000041.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZMJCEF-knJU/VSP0fLS9BzI/AAAAAAAAN0c/FMb9Fi86YW8/s16000/021.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CjefHCnaYKc/VVjAX59TuEI/AAAAAAACz8Y/iTmXFyV_ENk/s16000/018.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XEhmjmxevx4/VVjAYuV_CaI/AAAAAAACz8g/nVAbNtha4eU/s16000/019.png http://img2.mangasee.co/s/RakudaiKishiNoCavalry/0004-003.png ^ truth has been spoken. Good job conveniently ignoring my response that obliterated the so-called "truth": Grey-Zone said: Of the 3 only 1 has romantic interest in the MC. If you actually paid, you know, attention to the series, then you would see that it's like that. In one of the pages you posted, right next to it one of the girls clearly says that she has NO INTEREST in the MC (and doing so in a calm, sincere manner, i.e. no "tsundere saying the opposite" BS). But I don't blame you, taking things out of context to appear "superior" and "be right in the internet" is a common occurance. Nowadays no one cares about facts anyway, right? Instead everyone makes sure the facts fit their own opinions instead. |
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TheNaturalPerm said: I honestly dont know why you thought i meant you?I never implied something like that and i never called you a troll in this thread :/LoneWizard said: I dont even want to know why you created a frickin account just to troll further in this thread...Just wow...I hope you get an IP ban or something ^_^ I hope you didn't mean me. I don't do shit like that. Also I was online the whole time... |
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LoneWizard said: TheNaturalPerm said: I honestly dont know why you thought i meant you?I never implied something like that and i never called you a troll in this thread :/I hope you didn't mean me. I don't do shit like that. Also I was online the whole time... good |
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lordzeru said: LN fan is such a vague term...there are shit tons of LNs with completely different genres....Its like saying "anime fans has shit taste" or something even more vague and wrongly generalized...LoneWizard said: lol'd....wtf is a LN fan? :D A LN fan is a light novel fan, such as yourself. Fans of light novels and/or their adaptations. |
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| That awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... |
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Grey-Zone said: But it has highschoolers and magic in it no?Lol...I LOVE generalisingThat awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... |
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Grey-Zone said: That awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... So? So was Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's fans are terrible too. |
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Grey-Zone said: That awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... And it had a lot of problems as well, like basically all of T/M. Still, F/Z was probably the best entry of the entire Fate franchise. |
NidhoeggrAug 13, 2015 1:48 PM
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LoneWizard said: Grey-Zone said: But it has highschoolers and magic in it no?Lol...I LOVE generalisingThat awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... no, no, what you speak of is the adaption of Fate/stay night which is a "shounen version" for 5 year old kids... adapted from a porn... game? wAiT dOEs N0t comPuTe()§!?=§? |
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lordzeru said: You are not even trying anymore =_=Grey-Zone said: That awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... So? So was Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's fans are terrible too. You said all LNs are bad->you said Legend of the Galactic Heroes is bad->You are a Legend of the Galactic Heroes fan |
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| Well there are worse things like that episodic below average series called "Cowboy Beepob" or something like that, that is only poular because of "lol,nostalgia". I mean if I want to watch something episodic then I prefer American-made sci-fi series like Stargate:SG1 (as long as Richard Dean Anderson was part of the main cast, at least). |
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LoneWizard said: lordzeru said: You are not even trying anymore =_=So? So was Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's fans are terrible too. You said all LNs are bad->you said Legend of the Galactic Heroes is bad->You are a Legend of the Galactic Heroes fan Yes, and so you have arrived at the paradox. But I did not say LOGH is bad, I said it's fans are bad. Myself included. |
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lordzeru said: Grey-Zone said: That awkward moment when people edgelords realize that Fate/Zero was originally a LN... So? So was Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's fans are terrible too. That's but a reflection of the lack of quality. One needs to resort to being obnoxious and pseudo-intellectual to hide the series' rather obvious shortcomings. |
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metamorphius said: lordzeru said: So? So was Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's fans are terrible too. That's but a reflection of the lack of quality. They need to resort to being obnoxious and pseudo-intellectual to hide the series' rather obvious shortcomings. I am glad the esteemed fans of this show are above that. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Trolling in this thread stopped being subtle and started to be obvious so i am taking my leave again :/ It was fun to talk with some sane poeople who knows how to converse without any bad intentions like: TheNaturalPerm(Or very good at hiding his bad intentions,still dont know =_=) Grey-Zone -Anabelle- |
LoneWizzyAug 13, 2015 1:50 PM
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