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| That scene while still more fitting than fucking pointless overdone cringy "melting children batteries" part, was still forced as all hell I just see it as Miura screaming at the tv screen "look at how mature we are !" . Both scenes felt overdone to an extent as something that was born out of "How can we pay fanservice to all the MATURE Zero secondaries" |
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CookingPriest said: That scene while still more fitting than fucking pointless overdone cringy "melting children batteries" part, was still forced as all hell I just see it as Miura screaming at the tv screen "look at how mature we are !" . Both scenes felt overdone to an extent as something that was born out of "How can we pay fanservice to all the MATURE Zero secondaries" That particular scene, yeah. It was cringe-worthy. It kind of alluded to , but straight-out using that to show how evil the guy is is meh at best. And he's using too much tech for a magus. Other than that, I did like how Caster finished him off, he deserved that kind of end :/ |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: That scene while still more fitting than fucking pointless overdone cringy "melting children batteries" part, was still forced as all hell I just see it as Miura screaming at the tv screen "look at how mature we are !" . Both scenes felt overdone to an extent as something that was born out of "How can we pay fanservice to all the MATURE Zero secondaries" That particular scene, yeah. It was cringe-worthy. It kind of alluded to , but straight-out using that to show how evil the guy is is meh at best. And he's using too much tech for a magus. Other than that, I did like how Caster finished him off, he deserved that kind of end :/ It did not even feel like "showing how evil he is". Him punching Caster around already acomplished that. That was pretty much a cheap "LOOK WE HAVE LOTS OF GORE!" moment. Just like most of filler content this episode I find hard to justify its existence. |
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Ragna92 said: fate can get pretty gruesome dude and no i'm not talking about zero. the writer is just one to put you into a comfort zone first then yank the rug from underneath youOneTrueEmiya said: What I mean is wouldn't expect a scene like that in Fate. Felt like Game of thrones or something for a second. I also found it weird to see Gil behead someone. It just felt pretty random in general.Y-y-you monster, think of poor Sella ;___; |
| THE GOOD -Rin. Any and all Rin scenes this episode were spot on. -Blond Servant being utterly fabulous while being utterly badass. -It physically hurt to watch Leys and Sella be skewered like that. I am satisfied. Basically everything at the very end. THE NOT SO GOOD -Yet another rushed, disjointed episode. I really don't know why this is happening anymore. They're obviously trying to make room for something -coughShiroucough- in the later episodes. All I can do is hope that it's worth it. -Pacing. Pacing, pacing, pacing. Serous scenes lose their impact upon being paired with comedy. They should know that. Why, then? THE MIXED BAG -New content is always welcome but I feel like they animated the wrong part of Caster's backstory. Her human life would have been a lot more helpful in making viewers understand her POV. I really don't see a F/HA adaptation on the horizon so I don't know why they wouldn't borrow stuff from there. As big an asshole as her Master was, he is pretty unnecessary to her characterization at the end of the day. Overall 3/5. |
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| Can we rename this thread "CookingPriest Doesn't Like the FSN UBW Anime" yet? |
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Ketuekigami said: i do believe that is called the VN vs anime thread...Can we rename this thread "CookingPriest Doesn't Like the FSN UBW Anime" yet? |
| sigh, yet another cliffhanger, lol, but another great episode |
CookingPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: That particular scene, yeah. It was cringe-worthy. It kind of alluded to , but straight-out using that to show how evil the guy is is meh at best. And he's using too much tech for a magus. Other than that, I did like how Caster finished him off, he deserved that kind of end :/ It did not even feel like "showing how evil he is". Him punching Caster around already acomplished that. That was pretty much a cheap "LOOK WE HAVE LOTS OF GORE!" moment. Just like most of filler content this episode I find hard to justify its existence. Well, we did get Caster's meeting with Kuzuki, as well as a reference to Lancer's previous Master. But I'd agree that they didn't use this chance to expand on Caster's Master very well. Maloghurst said: Ragna92 said: fate can get pretty gruesome dude and no i'm not talking about zero. the writer is just one to put you into a comfort zone first then yank the rug from underneath youWhat I mean is wouldn't expect a scene like that in Fate. Felt like Game of thrones or something for a second. I also found it weird to see Gil behead someone. It just felt pretty random in general. He just loves making you feel warm inside, then suddenly hitting you with a twist. Nasu so masochistic :C |
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frequency15k said: it's all escalation from heresigh, yet another cliffhanger, lol, but another great episode |
demonicpudding said: -New content is always welcome but I feel like they animated the wrong part of Caster's backstory. Her human life would have been a lot more helpful in making viewers understand her POV. I really don't see a F/HA adaptation on the horizon so I don't know why they wouldn't borrow stuff from there. As big an asshole as her Master was, he is pretty unnecessary to her characterization at the end of the day. Ill never understand this part tbh and why they did this. Caster's former master is literally ~1% of her characterization and even that does not matter without understanding her worldview, goals or what she went through in life. This "flashback" achieves nothing. Considering they told us to expect "more points of view and anime original content" I really doubt they are preparing space for Shirou. The time for Shirou's characterization is long since past anyway. |
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| When I heard people complaining that Shinji stopped Liz, I was expecting some serious scene where he nonchalantly brushes her off, not the obvious comedy bit we got. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: [quote=Co zero. the writer is just one to put you into a comfort zone first then yank the rug from underneath you He just loves making you feel warm inside, then suddenly hitting you with a twist. Nasu so masochistic :C[/quote] tell me about it i actually cried at the end of Akiha's route.....and Winter forest........ |
| The ep was good. But since it was different from the VN lets shit on it. It's not like the VN was "racist","sexist",didnt have comedy just before gory scenes etc. Oh and Caster's backstory was done well without taking up a whole ep.We even had Kirei alluding to her real nature as a victim.Thats the second time she is portrayed as not an evil witch that kills for benefits. But lets shit on it for not being a copy paste of FHA. |
ReaperCreeper said: When I heard people complaining that Shinji stopped Liz, I was expecting some serious scene where he nonchalantly brushes her off, not the obvious comedy bit we got. The problem is less with Shinji casually stppping A lance from someone who has servant level stats and more about how UNFITTING that comedic scene was in terms of moood to be placed seconds before gory stuff. |
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CookingPriest said: She stopped it in front of his face and he tried to point it away, he didn't stop shit. I'll agree that putting comedy there just doesn't fit though. I expect Shinji buttmonkey comedy in Carnival Phantasm not UBW.ReaperCreeper said: When I heard people complaining that Shinji stopped Liz, I was expecting some serious scene where he nonchalantly brushes her off, not the obvious comedy bit we got. The problem is less with Shinji casually stppping A lance from someone who has servant level stats and more about how UNFITTING that comedic scene was in terms of moood to be placed seconds before gory stuff. |
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| I can only imagine Shinji as comedic or pathetic, so I see no problem with them going with comedic. |
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Maloghurst said: OneTrueEmiya said: tell me about it i actually cried at the end of Akiha's route.....and Winter forest........He just loves making you feel warm inside, then suddenly hitting you with a twist. Nasu so masochistic :C And Kohaku route as well...Of course, Die Lorelei (HF one, not Dojo 1), Winter Forest, |
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| the hype is real Gilgamesh vs Berserker wow wow wow I love Illya so much she is way too kawaii I was really looking forward to her and Shiro talking but since Shinji appeared this will be great Rin was just amazing as always <3 |
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Ketuekigami said: I can only imagine Shinji as comedic or pathetic, so I see no problem with them going with comedic. The problem is with them going comedic AND then literally seconds latter going gory. It i a very amateurish mood whiplash that makes people unable to properly react of take seriously EITHER of the extremes. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: nasu's writing envokes so many feels......Maloghurst said: tell me about it i actually cried at the end of Akiha's route.....and Winter forest........ And Kohaku route as well...Of course, Die Lorelei (HF one, not Dojo 1), Winter Forest, Ketuekigami said: shits gonna get even more funny in heaven's feel when shinjiI can only imagine Shinji as comedic or pathetic, so I see no problem with them going with comedic. |
Maloghurst said: Ketuekigami said: shits gonna get even more funny in heaven's feel when shinjiI can only imagine Shinji as comedic or pathetic, so I see no problem with them going with comedic. Unless they go with RN version censorship, in that case I fully expect |
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CookingPriest said: i'm actually pretty confident they wont go that route considering what we're getting in this anime miura or no miura, making shinji even more hated is probably gonna be something writers and director will make sure to do.Maloghurst said: shits gonna get even more funny in heaven's feel when shinji Unless they go with RN version censorship, in that case I fully expect |
| I got three things from this episode . Flying Rin . Shinji is the bitch of the Fate Saga (The A.Rank Strength aside) . Gil being Gil Oh and next episode, brb crying. |
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| Not in the mood to read through 17 pages of comments so I will just ask this question here. Can someone explain to me the whole children in glass test tubes being turned into red blood? Were they alive? Why didn't they react to the water rising? |
Gov said: Not in the mood to read through 17 pages of comments so I will just ask this question here. Can someone explain to me the whole children in glass test tubes being turned into red blood? Were they alive? Why didn't they react to the water rising? No one can explain. That was anime original filler and was not in canon. Take that as you will. |
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Gov said: Not in the mood to read through 17 pages of comments so I will just ask this question here. Can someone explain to me the whole children in glass test tubes being turned into red blood? Were they alive? Why didn't they react to the water rising? They were alive and then were grinded into paste to generate Mana for Caster |
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Gov said: We dont know what that liquid was,probably some magic stuff.Yes they were alive probably hypnotized,the ones that were hanging were alive as well.Not in the mood to read through 17 pages of comments so I will just ask this question here. Can someone explain to me the whole children in glass test tubes being turned into red blood? Were they alive? Why didn't they react to the water rising? |
| I get they were turned into blood to be sacrificed for mana but my question is the state they were in. They didn't even react to drowning in the water. Hypnotized? Why would he hypnotize them? He doesn't care about them at all. He only cares of generating the mana. If CookingPriest's words are true, I will take this scene as filler and just move on. |
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Gov said: anime original content but i'll try to put in my 2 cents. as for the kids i wanna say yes they're alive given context from this verse when converting people to mana you want them alive. you can get mana from justdead bodies but to gain full use of using a human you want them alive. as for them not waking up? i guess a special kind of sedation?Not in the mood to read through 17 pages of comments so I will just ask this question here. Can someone explain to me the whole children in glass test tubes being turned into red blood? Were they alive? Why didn't they react to the water rising? |
Gov said: I get they were turned into blood to be sacrificed for mana but my question is the state they were in. They didn't even react to drowning in the water. Hypnotized? Why would he hypnotize them? He doesn't care about them at all. He only cares of generating the mana. If CookingPriest's words are true, I will take this scene as filler and just move on. comatose possibly does it taste like filling? |
Gov said: I get they were turned into blood to be sacrificed for mana but my question is the state they were in. They didn't even react to drowning in the water. Hypnotized? Why would he hypnotize them? He doesn't care about them at all. He only cares of generating the mana. If CookingPriest's words are true, I will take this scene as filler and just move on. While there are MANY ways one could use living people or their sacrifice as power source in this setting, none of that involve hi-tech equipment. Actually, in fact, hi-tech science and magic absolutely do not mix - magic is something that keeps diminishing in power as Science progresses forward and pretty much every single magus ignores most of technological stuff, so it is impossible to form a coherent explanation to this anime original content scene. Most of stuff dealing with Caster's previous master was anime original filler(apart from Caster killing him). In VN we instead got to see Caster's backstory from when she was alive here. |
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CookingPriest said: Gov said: I get they were turned into blood to be sacrificed for mana but my question is the state they were in. They didn't even react to drowning in the water. Hypnotized? Why would he hypnotize them? He doesn't care about them at all. He only cares of generating the mana. If CookingPriest's words are true, I will take this scene as filler and just move on. While there are MANY ways one could use living people or their sacrifice as power source in this setting, none of that involve hi-tech equipment. Actually, in fact, hi-tech science and magic absolutely do not mix - magic is something that keeps diminishing in power as Science progresses forward and pretty much every single magus ignores most of technological stuff, so it is impossible to form a coherent explanation to this anime original content scene. I suppose this nutjob thought he could combine magic with science. I suppose it shows how incompetent he is, but the orphan soup machine popping out of nowhere was cringy. |
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| Interesting. Comatose and sedation make sense. Easier to place them in the tubes and less of a hassle. BTW Gilgamesh is overpowered and should have no equals like he did in F/Z. If someone does challenge him, I really hope it is based on skill and not by luck/asspulls. |
CookingPriest said: hence my "meaningless fanboy gripe" as well as a couple of others about the magus using tech. it's pretty irrelevant as far as the anime goes but for fans it's a little off. a middle eastern mage is already unorthidox and converting people into mana is aberrent but not new the tech just feels off. you can swing an explanation it's just offputting.Gov said: I get they were turned into blood to be sacrificed for mana but my question is the state they were in. They didn't even react to drowning in the water. Hypnotized? Why would he hypnotize them? He doesn't care about them at all. He only cares of generating the mana. If CookingPriest's words are true, I will take this scene as filler and just move on. While there are MANY ways one could use living people or their sacrifice as power source in this setting, none of that involve hi-tech equipment. Actually, in fact, hi-tech science and magic absolutely do not mix - magic is something that keeps diminishing in power as Science progresses forward and pretty much every single magus ignores most of technological stuff, so it is impossible to form a coherent explanation to this anime original content scene. Most of stuff dealing with Caster's previous master was anime original filler(apart from Caster killing him). In VN we instead got to see Caster's backstory from when she was alive here. |
Gov said: Interesting. Comatose and sedation make sense. Easier to place them in the tubes and less of a hassle. BTW Gilgamesh is overpowered and should have no equals like he did in F/Z. If someone does challenge him, I really hope it is based on skill and not by luck/asspulls. Gil has one weakness, one that will be exploited soon enough~ |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: While there are MANY ways one could use living people or their sacrifice as power source in this setting, none of that involve hi-tech equipment. Actually, in fact, hi-tech science and magic absolutely do not mix - magic is something that keeps diminishing in power as Science progresses forward and pretty much every single magus ignores most of technological stuff, so it is impossible to form a coherent explanation to this anime original content scene. I suppose this nutjob thought he could combine magic with science. I suppose it shows how incompetent he is, but the orphan soup machine popping out of nowhere was cringy. Unless you are crazy desperate beyond belief of a complete utter scrub, you would not even try to fuse those together. And the dude did not look like he belonged to either of those categories. I guess he was a complete and utter scrub. But then he would actually have no knowledge or ingenuity needed to make those opposite forces work together, so again, contradictions. Let's just assume it is some scifi mumbojumbo device that turns people into gatorade and move on. Maloghurst said: CookingPriest said: hence my "meaningless fanboy gripe" as well as a couple of others about the magus using tech. it's pretty irrelevant as far as the anime goes but for fans it's a little off. a middle eastern mage is already unorthidox and converting people into mana is aberrent but not new the tech just feels off. you can swing an explanation it's just offputting.While there are MANY ways one could use living people or their sacrifice as power source in this setting, none of that involve hi-tech equipment. Actually, in fact, hi-tech science and magic absolutely do not mix - magic is something that keeps diminishing in power as Science progresses forward and pretty much every single magus ignores most of technological stuff, so it is impossible to form a coherent explanation to this anime original content scene. Most of stuff dealing with Caster's previous master was anime original filler(apart from Caster killing him). In VN we instead got to see Caster's backstory from when she was alive here. To be honest it would have made more sense for him to have an alchemy based workshop considering ATLAS. This, just like pretty much everything in this episode felt completely off. If this continues I will just assume Nasu gave up and went "do whatever the fuck you want". |
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Gov said: lol you think gil had equals in F/Z......Interesting. Comatose and sedation make sense. Easier to place them in the tubes and less of a hassle. BTW Gilgamesh is overpowered and should have no equals like he did in F/Z. If someone does challenge him, I really hope it is based on skill and not by luck/asspulls. |
Maloghurst said: Gov said: lol you think gil had equals in F/Z......Interesting. Comatose and sedation make sense. Easier to place them in the tubes and less of a hassle. BTW Gilgamesh is overpowered and should have no equals like he did in F/Z. If someone does challenge him, I really hope it is based on skill and not by luck/asspulls. I think he meant that Gil had no equals :C And yes, no Servant can match a serious Gilgamesh. Though Gil does tend to underestimate people a lot. Zero stuff |
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Maloghurst said: Gov said: lol you think gil had equals in F/Z......Interesting. Comatose and sedation make sense. Easier to place them in the tubes and less of a hassle. BTW Gilgamesh is overpowered and should have no equals like he did in F/Z. If someone does challenge him, I really hope it is based on skill and not by luck/asspulls. |
Gov said: Maloghurst said: lol you think gil had equals in F/Z...... Saber. Kamehameha wave from her sword. |
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Gov said: stuff Well firs tof all implying those two characters even know each other is a major spoiler, but, how about no. Goldie could oneshot that person.. |
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Forgetfulness said: Aight episode I guess. Vast majority of it was anime original, but I didn't really have that much of a problem with it since it was just building off what we already knew and stuff. WE know that. But anime onlies do n ot. So watching this episode without the context in VN feels completely pointless. Thus the episode is completely pointless. |
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| Next episode is going to be so good |
Maloghurst said: CookingPriest said: hence my "meaningless fanboy gripe" as well as a couple of others about the magus using tech. it's pretty irrelevant as far as the anime goes but for fans it's a little off. a middle eastern mage is already unorthidox and converting people into mana is aberrent but not new the tech just feels off. you can swing an explanation it's just offputting.While there are MANY ways one could use living people or their sacrifice as power source in this setting, none of that involve hi-tech equipment. Actually, in fact, hi-tech science and magic absolutely do not mix - magic is something that keeps diminishing in power as Science progresses forward and pretty much every single magus ignores most of technological stuff, so it is impossible to form a coherent explanation to this anime original content scene. Most of stuff dealing with Caster's previous master was anime original filler(apart from Caster killing him). In VN we instead got to see Caster's backstory from when she was alive here. Not really At least, not for people who are aware of Atlas But even without that... it don't really see how that would be particularly strange. F/SN not so much but for Zero at least, the Masters came from all over the place. |
DoAndroidsDream said: Next episode is going to be so good Oh you'll enjoy it, |
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fst said: Maloghurst said: hence my "meaningless fanboy gripe" as well as a couple of others about the magus using tech. it's pretty irrelevant as far as the anime goes but for fans it's a little off. a middle eastern mage is already unorthidox and converting people into mana is aberrent but not new the tech just feels off. you can swing an explanation it's just offputting. Not really At least, not for people who are aware of Atlas But even without that... it don't really see how that would be particularly strange. F/SN not so much but for Zero at least, the Masters came from all over the place. That guy did say he was from the MA though. And besides, Atlas probably doesn't use tech like he does anyway, so we can just write him off as a nutjob with no knowledge of how to use magic properly. |
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