Akame ga KILL!
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ninjastarforcex said: Tell me about it m8. I think that I've found the worst set of delusional fanboys in anime/manga history lol these people. Can't even determine awful writing even if it slaps them point blank in the face |
TokoyaDec 12, 2014 5:11 AM
| Fuck me, I was expecting Tatsumi to kill Esudesu after an uber screaming awakening. The casualties during the battle were humongous if you take the huge explosions and shit into consideration and Tatsumi died in order to save 20 people, what a fucking dumbass. |
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Tokoya said: ninjastarforcex said: Tell me about it m8. I think that I've found the worst set of delusional fanboys in anime/manga history lol these people. Can't even determine awful writing even if it slaps them point blank in the face Yet thinks that SAO, Fairy Tail, Naruto, DBZ, High School DxD, Highschool of the Dead, Mahouka, Mirai Nikki, Pokemon, SAO 2, and this AgK adaptation are quality anime. Case closed. |
| Guys, latest threater is better then few last episodes |
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bastek66 said: Guys, latest threater is better then few last episodes Even though I can only understand half of what they are saying,its beautiful :') |
bastek66 said: Guys, latest threater is better then few last episodes poor Akame :< |
| This is hilariously bad...wtf did i even watch? Gahh glad it's over next week. I guess Tokyo Ghoul is no longer the worst anime this year...speaking of, did Akame just go ghoul mode in the pv? |
za21 said: Taste in other anime is completely irrelevant and subjective to the topic at hand. You have no pointTokoya said: Tell me about it m8. I think that I've found the worst set of delusional fanboys in anime/manga history Can't even determine awful writing even if it slaps them point blank in the face Yet thinks that SAO, Fairy Tail, Naruto, DBZ, High School DxD, Highschool of the Dead, Mahouka, Mirai Nikki, Pokemon, SAO 2, and this AgK adaptation are quality anime. Case closed. Lurn 2 debate |
| lol Holy shit, wtf is going on.. |
Tokoya said: za21 said: Taste in other anime is completely irrelevant and subjective to the topic at hand. You have no pointYet thinks that SAO, Fairy Tail, Naruto, DBZ, High School DxD, Highschool of the Dead, Mahouka, Mirai Nikki, Pokemon, SAO 2, and this AgK adaptation are quality anime. Case closed. Lurn 2 debate This stopping being a debate when you stopped making any sort of cogent argument and proceeded to ignore my points. Yes, your taste in anime, terrible as it may be, is completely relevant when you are say something is terribly written. In order to make a claim like that, you need to have a sense of what makes a good story, characters, characterization, etc.. If there are anime that are objectively terrible that you rate highly, then it calls into question your ability to do so. If you are making terrible arguments, I'm going to call you out on it. |
za21Dec 12, 2014 10:51 AM
za21 said: Dude its the opposite way around. I'm not the one using guilty pleasure series to prove my point lol xD. The second you even brought them up is when you officially lost this argument. Tokoya said: Taste in other anime is completely irrelevant and subjective to the topic at hand. You have no point Lurn 2 debate This stopping being a debate when you stopped making any sort of cogent argument and proceeded to ignore my points. Yes, your taste in anime, terrible as it may be, is completely relevant when you are say something is terribly written. In order to make a claim like that, you need to have a sense of what makes a good story, characters, characterization, etc.. If there are anime that are objectively terrible that you rate highly, then it calls into question your ability to do so. If you are making terrible arguments, I'm going to call you out on it. I could individually explain why I have those anime ranked like that, but the fact of the matter is, we're talking about Akame ga Kill, those other series are irrelevant to the discussion at hand. . What part if this isn't processing in the brain of yours so that I can slow it down and thoroughly explain it to you? |
| Best episode of this show and everybody is talking shit about it lol |
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Danpmss said: Best episode of this show and everybody is talking shit about it lol Not everyone likes Michael bay levels of shit in their anime |
bastek66 said: Guys, latest threater is better then few last episodes  Poor Akame. Kinda wish the anime/manga had taken a different approach and focused more on Akame. At some point after Susano and Chelsea joined she became more of a side character and Mein replaced her. Manga should have been called Tastsumi no Kill. Oh..... well. She is still my favorite character in the manga, and possibly the only redeeming feature. |
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Darklight0303 said: Danpmss said: Best episode of this show and everybody is talking shit about it lol Not everyone likes Michael bay levels of shit in their anime Still the best episode of the anime. |
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Tokoya said: za21 said: Dude its the opposite way around. I'm not the one using guilty pleasure series to prove my point lol xD. The second you even brought them up is when you officially lost this argument. This stopping being a debate when you stopped making any sort of cogent argument and proceeded to ignore my points. Yes, your taste in anime, terrible as it may be, is completely relevant when you are say something is terribly written. In order to make a claim like that, you need to have a sense of what makes a good story, characters, characterization, etc.. If there are anime that are objectively terrible that you rate highly, then it calls into question your ability to do so. If you are making terrible arguments, I'm going to call you out on it. I could individually explain why I have those anime ranked like that, but the fact of the matter is, we're talking about Akame ga Kill, those other series are irrelevant to the discussion at hand. . What part if this isn't processing in the brain of yours so that I can slow it down and thoroughly explain it to you? You are in no position to talk down to anybody. There's nothing worse than someone who has been proven wrong yet somehow thinks that they haven't and still acts condescending. This discussion has been about how you don't know what terrible writing is. Or good writing for that matter. Those other series are relevant since they describe you. Repeat. They are relevant. The fact you rate them so highly really decreases any credibility you have in talking about the quality of the manga when going against me. I dare you to say that it is irrelevant again. Because that would be disingenuous. It is not a guilty pleasure. I can defend the manga yet still admit its flaws. It's just nowhere near as terrible as you make it out to be. It's pretty simple. You're making much harder than it should be. It's pretty frustating talking to someone as stubborn as you. This describes you perfectly. |
za21Dec 12, 2014 2:12 PM
Tokoya said: Taste in other anime is completely irrelevant and subjective to the topic at hand. You have no point Lurn 2 debate  |
Satire said: And with this I have officially contracted cancer.Tokoya said: Taste in other anime is completely irrelevant and subjective to the topic at hand. You have no point Lurn 2 debate |
Danpmss said: Best episode of this show and everybody is talking shit about it lol Obvious lame troll is obvious and lame. |
Use your brain before using your keyboard!  |
oneroaddict said: This thread is somehow getting more entertaining than the episode. Not that great of an achievement given how bad the episode was. |
| I really don't understand the amount of hate people have towards this anime and this episode in particular. I'm one of the few that actually enjoy what has happened so far. Let's think about it for a sec: First, Tatsumi's death was not out of the ordinary. He joined Night Raid knowing that death is the final retribution assassin's will face. He took down the strongest teigu made - a fucking godly one at that. One that was wielded by an immature, unstable, and gung-ho kid. It is truly remarkable that he managed to defeat him head on like that and still survive. Furthermore, when the teigu began crashing down towards hundreds of innocent people, Tatsumi reacted exactly in-line with his personality. After all, his reason for joining Nighst Raid was to save his village from the corruption, as well as free the innocent people of said corruption. Why the hell wouldn't he do whatever it took to save them? I know for a fact he wouldn't stand there going "Oh no! Hundreds are about to die because of this gundam-looking teigu...! Oh well. *meets up with rest of allies*". I reckon it would be even more absurd had that happened and did nothing, even when he could have done something about it. Which leads me to the next point...HE WAS THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE OF SAVING THOSE PEOPLE! Who's left that can help? Wave? The dude was practically knocked miles away and out of his teigu form. Leone? She may have strength but lets face it, even Mr. Golden Tatsumi could barely stop it. Akame? We're already beyond absurd at this point. Just who in the world are we supposed to expect to come help Tatsumi? Why is it so wrong for Tatsumi to die? From the very start, people were dying left and right, even in the manga. There was never a moment where Tatsumi contributed a lot in terms of battle until now. Every character that had died so far died from an honourable cause. They did something worth dying for. It propels those that are still left to continue the fight for justice until the very end. That includes Tatsumi. Sure he could've lived but it would be a slap to the face to all the others that have died so far in situations just as bad, relative to their capabilities. Which leads to my final point: Akame's survival is what matters the most. Aside from the obvious fact that the title is "Akame ga Kill!", Akame is the only person who is capable in every single way to end this corruption. Not Tatsumi. It can be easily argued that Tatsumi's purpose was to strengthen Akame's resolve and put an end to all of this. She has taken upon all the tragedies that have happened thus far and is strong enough to turn that into power. What could Tatsumi do? Magically summon a spirit bomb to destroy Esdeath? I mean, I was exaggerating there but are you kidding me? Anything of that sort would be so much worse. It's only fitting that Akame be the one to end this all. Once Esdeath dies, you can expect the typical "I'll be with Tatsumi" forever thing. That makes just as much sense as Tatsumi killing her. But you know what doesn't make sense? Having Tatsumi alive and Akame dead. He cannot stand his ground against Akame in terms of changing this world. Akame CAN protect and change the world (along with the help of Najenda, Leone, Wave, and Run if they manage to survive by the end of episode 24). There is no need for Tatsumi explicitly. And this is where some of you will consider "Why not have Tatsumi and Akame alive?" to which I would reply "read paragraphs above for explanation as to why Tatsumi must die". Tatsumi made his resolve and died heroically. Everyone that died so far made their resolve and died heroically. Tough luck if people can't accept it, but at least understand that there are MANY logical reasons as to why White Fox chose the route they did. Shit, some people ride the band wagon and take upon other's criticism of the show as their own personal view, neglecting important details and/or narrowing your focus because that's all that's given in these threads. It's a shame really. I'm not bashing anyone directly, but please think more openly about things. But then again, there are those that came to their own conclusions without peer-influence so that's fine. At the end of the day, if you hate this show, that's fine by me. All I know and care about really is that I liked this show. |
RezurrektDec 12, 2014 11:53 PM
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| and now they even make the worst shit of evolution for incursio...ffs is a never ending list of insults to the manga |
bladeangel said: chapa93 said: and now they even make the worst shit of evolution for incursio...ffs is a never ending list of insults to the manga I don't quite understand why people are saying this. His evolution in the anime was way more badass than the one in the manga, he even had wolverine claws... angry manga fans as per usual. He was a glowing digimon >_> |
Darklight0303 said: bladeangel said: I don't quite understand why people are saying this. His evolution in the anime was way more badass than the one in the manga, he even had wolverine claws... angry manga fans as per usual. He was a glowing digimon >_> still... Manga version:  anime version:  |
bladeangel said: Darklight0303 said: He was a glowing digimon >_> still... Manga version: anime version: Yeah anime version looks generic as fuck. |
DesolateOne said: In my opinion, the studio (White Fox) has a lot do with why this series is looked down upon. It's not that White Fox is a horrendous studio but, given that this is a battle shounen, a bigger budget and better animation could have made the anime better. Animation and budget aside, characters get jobbed (Budou, Syura, etc.) even harder in the anime than they do in the manga. Every character is a cardboard cutout of their archetype and show little relevance if they aren't Tatsumi. Even Akame, who the series is named after, barely does anything. The series might as well have been called Tatsumi ga Kill. While I didn't think this episode was that bad, it sure wasn't good either. It's beyond retarded that the ultimate tegiu is a fucking gundam, let alone all the other shit that went wrong. Tatsumi's death is the least of this episode's/series' problem. People who think it's outrageous are probably casuals or people who are mad because they self-inserted as Tatsumi or something. Objectively (take some notes Tokoya, this is how objective is used), this series is not good. It's realistically a 4-5/10 series on a non-inflated scale. It's fine for entertainment, but it's not special in any way, shape, or form. Anyone who has completed a good amount of series (and has decent taste) will know this. People who are more casual watchers, young, or just getting into anime, may enjoy it. For everyone else, there are better shows around. |
bladeangel said: Darklight0303 said: He was a glowing digimon >_> still... Manga version: anime version: I'll take the Manga version bercause it looks more like the armor is fusing with Tatsumi instead of a parody that the anime made him |
| No matter what anime, there will always be people who get butthurt over minor and major details. I think Tatsumi had a fitting end, he saved a bunch of people at the cost of his own life. |
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Sanyo said: No matter what anime, there will always be people who get butthurt over minor and major details. I think Tatsumi had a fitting end, he saved a bunch of people at the cost of his own life. Sure, but "fitting" doesn't make it any less cliché. |
Sanyo said: No matter what anime, there will always be people who get butthurt over minor and major details. I think Tatsumi had a fitting end, he saved a bunch of people at the cost of his own life. This is something pretty major. What was the point of Tatsumi's death? This is the death of the character whose perspective we've been following throughout the entire series. While he did die doing something that is within his character to do so, by saving people, what does it do for the story? He's not the same as the other characters like Lubbock or Bulat whose deaths are inconsequential. It's not like by the townspeople seeing Tatsumi save a group of people they see that Night Raid are actually protecting them. If the anime went that route, maybe. It's not like he is this character that redeemed himself by acting selfless for the first time in his life. It went from him fighting the mecha to oh, Tatsumi died. Considering the last few episodes were focused on killing characters left and right, why should we care who dies. There is no impact. We are desensitized. What is outrageous about his death most of all is the fact that he died from something that shouldn't have existed in the first place. A giant mecha with a cape. Seriously? And by the looks of the next episode, if the leaks are true, |
Darklight0303 said: bladeangel said: still... Manga version: anime version: I'll take the Manga version bercause it looks more like the armor is fusing with Tatsumi instead of a parody that the anime made him The anime version looks way cooler / stronger imo. plus he doesnt use that ugly ass spear with it |
bladeangel said: Darklight0303 said: I'll take the Manga version bercause it looks more like the armor is fusing with Tatsumi instead of a parody that the anime made him The anime version looks way cooler / stronger imo. plus he doesnt use that ugly ass spear with it >_> way cooler. Yeah. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. NOt everything that shines is gold you know. Stop being impressed by hollow flash |
bladeangel said: Darklight0303 said: I'll take the Manga version bercause it looks more like the armor is fusing with Tatsumi instead of a parody that the anime made him The anime version looks way cooler / stronger imo. plus he doesnt use that ugly ass spear with it The anime version is just the regular armor with wings, a few extensions, and is gold. Seriously, why is it gold? What does that have to do with the armor being able to evolve. That is really lazy and unimaginative. |
Darklight0303 said: bladeangel said: The anime version looks way cooler / stronger imo. plus he doesnt use that ugly ass spear with it >_> way cooler. Yeah. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. NOt everything that shines is gold you know. Stop being impressed by hollow flash Not saying it was AMAZINGGG, but the manga version was pretty underwhelming. And the anime version was only gold for a short period of time. Goes back to grey after punching through the megarobot |
| The manga version resembles a dragon which makes sense considering Tyrant was a dragon and Tatsumi means dragon. Meanwhile the anime just have the wings and they don't even look that much like a dragon more like a bat |
Junchi said: Danpmss said: Best episode of this show and everybody is talking shit about it lol Obvious lame troll is obvious and lame. Not quite a troll, this anime is shit in my opinion, and this is the first time I was impressed by it (having the guts to kill the MC in some crazy ass epic fight scene). The manga has better development, details and even pacing (even if started as some kind of try-hard shit as well). |
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| Thankfully none of this happens in the manga. This anime is making me cry Q.Q |
| So the anime has a lame ass harpy lady incursio vs a Gundam as final battle meanwhile in the manga we have So which is really better? Uh, to anyone that says the lance is worst than de Wolwerine claws in the anime, that is just stupid, the lance is a signature move left by awesome gay Aniki, did any of you really watched this? Oh, and Esdeth as we won't be seeing that on the last episode for sure... |
Snaita said: So the anime has a lame ass harpy lady incursio vs a Gundam as final battle meanwhile in the manga we have So which is really better? Uh, to anyone that says the lance is worst than de Wolwerine claws in the anime, that is just stupid, the lance is a signature move left by awesome gay Aniki, did any of you really watched this? Oh, and Esdeth as we won't be seeing that on the last episode for sure... We won't be seeing a lot of Esdeath's moves I bet >_> |
By the way this is how Incursio looks like without being colored: Way cooler right? |
Snaita said: By the way this is how Incursio looks like without being colored: Way cooler right? Guys, guys |
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Breaz said: Snaita said: By the way this is how Incursio looks like without being colored: Way cooler right? Guys, guys ^^ he's right you know |
| I have this feeling that if I post anything slightly negative about this episode and the anime (and it totally deserves criticism) i'll be bashed as a manga purist or mangafan or some other shit... Even though I haven't even looked at the AGK manga once and am largely an anime only viewer. At one point (mostly when Chelsea was still alive) I was thinking that this anime deserves a 7/10 and that it might end up making me give it a 8/10. Than it decided to go episodic shonen kill all random illogical flying batshit crazy on us. Yea this anime totally deserves a 5/10 or a 6/10 at most. Sad what this anime has become. I don't know whether I should respect the director for making Yuuki Yuuna wa yuusha de aru or think badly of him for managing to screw up AGK so badly... |
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bladeangel said: Breaz said: Guys, guys ^^ he's right you know Still looks better than a digimon design wise |
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