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Sep 15, 2014 1:24 PM

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The thing is, there is nothing to understand in NGE.

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I like Madoka but I hate how over-saturated its become.
Buy this Madoka toilet paper!
Buy this Madoka toothpaste!
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Madoka Movie 3: The Rebellion Story is underrated, it should be in the top 20.
i don't understand why people hate it, i mean Homura did everything right.
Homura did nothing wrong.

Also Madoka 3 is better than the TV show. :P


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When people repeatedly tell you "this show is so deep" and "this is a masterpiece", you begin to like it less when you do watch it.
not replying to you necessarily but rather to use it as a point, this is probably among the weakest reasons to ever dislike or discredit a show, if you cannot control your own expectations going into something regardless of what the "fans" tell you then its your fucking fault for setting up expectations, a obnoxious fanbase does not magically change the show's quality its exactly the same, if the show had a non existent fanbase it wouldnt be better nor worse.

Oh, no I agree. But I think most people fall into the category where they get irritated by the hype if their own expectations are not met.

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The thing is, there is nothing to understand in NGE.

You have yet to read people's tl;dr explanations. So many things people thought of that I don't have the brain cells to come up with! But seriously, there's a lot of shows where I watch it and I'm like "okay" but then I go on the forums and there's like essays written about the meaning of the episode. Example: Space Dandy s2 episode 8.
I'm not even disagreeing with you, just saying. I didn't understand it fully either, like I said, because I'm clearly not intelligent enough yet.
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Out of all anime movies Madoka movie & Gintama movie are the best I've seen. Dat gunfight especially the part where they're close up vs each other.

Madoka for milking the series in possibly the best way possible and Gintama because it was genuinely funny & fun to watch. I heard Madoka was supposed to end differently but since it's a $ maker they extended it. Was a great way to extend it imo.
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It is though. Madoka 3 did everything better than Madoka da TV showz.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Feaor said:
Is it more prominent than in the VN? Shirou came off as bit sexist at times in the VN to me.
It is because the anime failed to portray Shirou's character.

In the VN



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now for sayaka themed preparation H
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Just to clear things up, NGE = Neon genesis eva?


Also I wonder what will be the AOTY.. NGNL (pains me to say so), Fate/UBW... Psycho pass.. I just wonder.

AgK even has a chance! But I'm going for Nanatsu no Taizai.
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Mikatarukito said:
Just to clear things up, NGE = Neon genesis eva?

Also I wonder what will be the AOTY.. NGNL (pains me to say so), Fate/UBW... Psycho pass.. I just wonder.

AgK even has a chance! But I'm going for Nanatsu no Taizai.

yes, it's evangelion.

wait, why does it pain you to say so LOL

robis798 said:
Well I haven't seen NGE yet, so Madoka was the first show that featured more mindfuckery and dark twists, whatever you call it. But if I saw NGE first I would probably like Madoka less, considering I would even like NGE.

I actually watched NGE and plenty of other shows like Penguindrum after Madoka too. However for another "genre master" like Clannad, I saw many other (niche) shows before that one which set my expectations too high.
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mayukachan said:
The "9 schools competition" honestly felt like filler and did not contribute anything important to the story.
Right. Because people are too busy poking fun at how OP Tatsuya is and how he has a harem and how Miyuki gets jealous because of her brother complex.
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Mikatarukito said:
Just to clear things up, NGE = Neon genesis eva?


Also I wonder what will be the AOTY.. NGNL (pains me to say so), Fate/UBW... Psycho pass.. I just wonder.

AgK even has a chance! But I'm going for Nanatsu no Taizai.


Mushishi is AOTY....
Sep 15, 2014 1:33 PM

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Mikatarukito said:
Just to clear things up, NGE = Neon genesis eva?
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Yes.
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Barakamon and nozaki are AOTY because they are funny.
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Mikatarukito said:
Also I wonder what will be the AOTY.. NGNL (pains me to say so), Fate/UBW... Psycho pass.. I just wonder.

AgK even has a chance! But I'm going for Nanatsu no Taizai.
UBW no doubt. AgK is pretty mediocre though.

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It is though. Madoka 3 did everything better than Madoka da TV showz.
The only thing worse in Rebellion is that the ending is a cliff hanger.
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Botato said:
mayukachan said:
The "9 schools competition" honestly felt like filler and did not contribute anything important to the story.
Right. Because people are too busy poking fun at how OP Tatsuya is and how he has a harem and how Miyuki gets jealous because of her brother complex.

that was actually my favourite arc tbh. it wasn't that incest focused which was good. however, i felt like nothing was accomplished overall.

also, don't assume thats all that people shit on it for. there's plenty of more reasons why it isn't a great show lol
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mayukachan said:
Mikatarukito said:
Just to clear things up, NGE = Neon genesis eva?

Also I wonder what will be the AOTY.. NGNL (pains me to say so), Fate/UBW... Psycho pass.. I just wonder.

AgK even has a chance! But I'm going for Nanatsu no Taizai.

yes, it's evangelion.

wait, why does it pain you to say so LOL

robis798 said:
Well I haven't seen NGE yet, so Madoka was the first show that featured more mindfuckery and dark twists, whatever you call it. But if I saw NGE first I would probably like Madoka less, considering I would even like NGE.

I actually watched NGE and plenty of other shows like Penguindrum after Madoka too. However for another "genre master" like Clannad, I saw many other (niche) shows before that one which set my expectations too high.


Because its a love it or hate it show. If we went more into depth of AOTY would mean: Mindless fun. That's what AOT is; NGNL (to me) is mindless fun. I don't even know where this shit started but this AOTY shouldn't exist.
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Honestly I think that the Rebelion movie was really really not good and it really feels like it was meant to milk the franchise. But I cannot argue since towards the end I completely lost it. I don't know if I am too stupid for it or my English is not too good.

Imo, the TV series could have easily ended without any movies.
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mayukachan said:
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Right. Because people are too busy poking fun at how OP Tatsuya is and how he has a harem and how Miyuki gets jealous because of her brother complex.

that was actually my favourite arc tbh. it wasn't that incest focused which was good. however, i felt like nothing was accomplished overall.

also, don't assume thats all that people shit on it for. there's plenty of more reasons why it isn't a great show lol


Does mahouka accomplish anything?
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Some Madoka fans freak out if you dare say that Rebellion is any good, I can only imagine what their reaction would be if they read something like: "it's better than the series".
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ehh, the idea of an aoty is really based on your own opinion. there really isn't any standard or whatever.

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Honestly I think that the Rebelion movie was really really not good and it really feels like it was meant to milk the franchise. But I cannot argue since towards the end I completely lost it. I don't know if I am too stupid for it or my English is not too good.

Imo, the TV series could have easily ended without any movies.

same

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Does mahouka accomplish anything?

not really. it's such a waste of potential because the premise is actually pretty interesting. like a cold war between magic and whatever but they had to focus on cookie cutter teenager characters in a magic school spiced with the onii-sama. lol

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Some Madoka fans freak out if you dare say that Rebellion is any good, I can only imagine what their reaction would be if they read something like: "it's better than the series".

i was under the presumption that fans loved the 3rd movie though O_o at least all my friends did.
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robis798 said:
Honestly I think that the Rebelion movie was really really not good and it really feels like it was meant to milk the franchise. But I cannot argue since towards the end I completely lost it. I don't know if I am too stupid for it or my English is not too good.

Imo, the TV series could have easily ended without any movies.


Or went for 2cour.

I want to watch Eden of The East but CBF with movies.
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mayukachan said:
that was actually my favourite arc tbh. it wasn't that incest focused which was good. however, i felt like nothing was accomplished overall.
It introduced a lot of new characters, more revelations about Tatsuya albeit vague, as well as was a good way to explain the magic system more, which is really interesting, while at the same time making it fun with all the olympics-style games.

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also, don't assume thats all that people shit on it for. there's plenty of more reasons why it isn't a great show lol
Sure, but most of these are either buried under the mountains of "OH MAI GAWD SHE SAID ONI SAMA 23 TIMES THIS EPISODE! LOLOLOLOL!!1!eleven!!!!11"

Or you know, it's just easier to shit on it for these things since it's like SAO; a lot of people hate it so a lot of people will agree with me that it's bad anyway.
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I want to watch Eden of The East but CBF with movies.

Higashi no Eden should have had 2 cour and a more fleshed out plot. Would have been some sort of masterpiece. The movies are alright I guess. Just get through the TV series first.

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also, don't assume thats all that people shit on it for. there's plenty of more reasons why it isn't a great show lol
Sure, but most of these are either buried under the mountains of "OH MAI GAWD SHE SAID ONI SAMA 23 TIMES THIS EPISODE! LOLOLOLOL!!1!eleven!!!!11"

Or you know, it's just easier to shit on it for these things since it's like SAO; a lot of people hate it so a lot of people will agree with me that it's bad anyway.

To be fair, the number of haters and lovers for Mahouka are pretty even. I've seen people who love it for the incest vibes and at the same time, people who hate it because of that.

But she does say onii-sama way too much, you have to be honest.

In the end, MAL is full of people who criticize modern anime way too much.
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mayukachan said:


_Ultima_ said:
Does mahouka accomplish anything?

not really. it's such a waste of potential because the premise is actually pretty interesting. like a cold war between magic and whatever but they had to focus on cookie cutter teenager characters in a magic school spiced with the onii-sama. lol



I remember when fans kept saying it would be magical tech game of thrones and it turned out to be dull in every aspect.
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_Ultima_ said:
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not really. it's such a waste of potential because the premise is actually pretty interesting. like a cold war between magic and whatever but they had to focus on cookie cutter teenager characters in a magic school spiced with the onii-sama. lol



I remember when fans kept saying it would be magical tech game of thrones and it turned out to be dull in every aspect.
people said that?
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robis798 said:
Imo, the TV series could have easily ended without any movies.
I disagree. The ending to the series sucked and didn't feel fully resolved.

That's not to say Rebellion's ending is better, because it definitely isn't being a horrible cliff hanger.

Also, as long as it is good quality, sure go ahead and milk the series as much as you want.
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Botato said:
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Imo, the TV series could have easily ended without any movies.
I disagree. The ending to the series sucked and didn't feel fully resolved.

I feel the same way, except the complete opposite. The ending to the series was the most suitable and it felt resolved x)
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Botato said:
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Is it more prominent than in the VN? Shirou came off as bit sexist at times in the VN to me.
It is because the anime failed to portray Shirou's character.

In the VN
You're stating the obvious, there.

The complaints about the VN wouldn't be half as vehement if what's in your spoiler was the only instance of sexism that Shirou exhibits throughout the game (which it is not). And you might not have paid attention, but you really don't need to look that far to see he's got pretty backwards and preconcieved ideas about women in general.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Speaking about Mahouka... The OST's piss me off. They play dub step like every 5 seconds. It's horrible.

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I remember when fans kept saying it would be magical tech game of thrones and it turned out to be dull in every aspect.
people said that?


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I cant forgive it because of that, which is a shame cause action wise its one of the few moments in gundam that really ever captured my interest, like seriously the fights are phenomenal especially that gunfight between amuro and char near the end, but i watched gundam for the story and characters and to see 2 of the best in the franchise be so lazilly handled just let a awful taste in my nouth

At the very least gundam unicorn more than made up for my CCA distaste, I think that movie payed more respect and care for tomino's characters than tomino ever did


Completely understandable

I think for me by the time I was finally getting fed up with its stupid bullshit it was practically over so it numbed the pain. That and as you said it has some really good fights and mecha in general which carry its sorry ass. It still definitely features some of the worst characters/character moments ever packed into 90 minutes of a Gundam.

But hey Char on a horse...


LOL.....Char Ai'nt got nothing on Master Asia,Cuz his Horse......HAS A GUNDAM!!!!!

And,ughhh........I do'nt know what the heck tomino is thinking when he creates some of these characters.
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I think yesterday someone said something about Olympics and Mahouka.

It would be quite interesting to see a show around a person or a group of (childhood or not) friends that are trying to accomplish this dream. Somethink like Uchuu Kyoudai.
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I remember when fans kept saying it would be magical tech game of thrones and it turned out to be dull in every aspect.
people said that?


I saw it on the comments of the first episode.
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The Rebellion movie is like one of the most controversial things ever. Either you like it or you hate it.

I'm one of the people that loved it. I wasn't much of a madoka fan before the movie but I was after. It made me appreciate the series a lot more.
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Barakamon and nozaki are AOTY because they are funny.
You misspelled Sabagebu!
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The only thing worse in Rebellion is that the ending is a cliff hanger.

What do you mean?
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_Ultima_ said:
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people said that?


I saw it on the comments of the first episode.
I'm glad I didn't, cause whoever said that needs a fucking Brighto slap across the face.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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I want to watch Eden of The East but CBF with movies.
Don't bother with the movies, they kind of ruined the series. But then again the ending to the series was absolutely horrible too.

Eh... Don't touch Eden of the East.

mayukachan said:
To be fair, the number of haters and lovers for Mahouka are pretty even. I've seen people who love it for the incest vibes and at the same time, people who hate it because of that.
I would say it's not the same tbh.

mayukachan said:
But she does say onii-sama way too much, you have to be honest.
I still don't see what's so bad about this though. I never once even noticed it until people were pointing it out on the forums.

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In the end, MAL is full of people who criticize modern anime way too much.
It is okay to criticize. Sometimes it gets so bad though that it's not about criticizing a show anymore.
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Barakamon and nozaki are AOTY because they are funny.
You misspelled Sabagebu!


You misspelled himegoto.
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_Ultima_ said:
Korrvo said:
You misspelled Sabagebu!


You misspelled himegoto.
^Himegoto is underrated, it's awesome, it's simply a masterpiece.
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You're stating the obvious, there.

The complaints about the VN wouldn't be half as vehement if what's in your spoiler was the only instance of sexism that Shirou exhibits (which it is not). And you might not have paid attention, but you really don't need to look that far to see he's got pretty backwards and preconcieved ideas about women in general.
He does. But they're not really that bad when you think about them in-context, plus they are things he picked up from Kiritsugu so yeah, if you wanna call Shirou sexist for some of his ideas then you Kiritsugu isn't any better o.o
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Speaking about Mahouka... The OST's piss me off. They play dub step like every 5 seconds. It's horrible.


But the OST is one of the only good things about Mahouka. Not sure I'd still be watching without it.
I probably regret this post by now.
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mayukachan said:
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I disagree. The ending to the series sucked and didn't feel fully resolved.

I feel the same way, except the complete opposite. The ending to the series was the most suitable and it felt resolved x)


I also think that the series' ending felt complete.
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_Ultima_ said:
mayukachan said:



not really. it's such a waste of potential because the premise is actually pretty interesting. like a cold war between magic and whatever but they had to focus on cookie cutter teenager characters in a magic school spiced with the onii-sama. lol



I remember when fans kept saying it would be magical tech game of thrones and it turned out to be dull in every aspect.


I read someone saying that Akame ga kill was like game of thrones. Apparently every horrible anime is game of thrones nowadays.
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People on this site sure like incest. Well, not surprised after what I read on the casual discussion threads lol.

By the way, I remember that before Mahouka started there was a guy preaching the novel was amazing and stuff and that the anime would be fucking awesome. I wonder what he thinks now. Not saying the show is bad, since I have never watched a single episode, just a random, stupid thought.
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Botato said:
Sapewloth said:
You're stating the obvious, there.

The complaints about the VN wouldn't be half as vehement if what's in your spoiler was the only instance of sexism that Shirou exhibits (which it is not). And you might not have paid attention, but you really don't need to look that far to see he's got pretty backwards and preconcieved ideas about women in general.
He does. But they're not really that bad when you think about them in-context, plus they are things he picked up from Kiritsugu so yeah, if you wanna call Shirou sexist for some of his ideas then you Kiritsugu isn't any better o.o
Sure.

But I highly doubt
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Mikatarukito said:
Speaking about Mahouka... The OST's piss me off. They play dub step like every 5 seconds. It's horrible.
I quite like it actually. Iwasaki is a great composer imo.

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The only thing worse in Rebellion is that the ending is a cliff hanger.

What do you mean?
I mean that both endings are not that great, but Rebellion's is worse.

Until a sequel is announced that is.
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So I really don't know anything about Mahouka apart from magic, but it seems like it has a good premise but wastes and ruins it with some typical Japan fanservice stuff like incest or lolis. Just like Black Bullet. Am I right?
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So I really don't know anything about Mahouka apart from magic, but it seems like it has a good premise but wastes and ruins it with some typical Japan fanservice stuff like incest or lolis. Just like Black Bullet. Am I right?


Not really, it's very tame and doesn't really have lolis or ecchi, it's just Tatsuya being badass and every girl passively fawning over him until Miyuki Onii-san's them away and there are like 10 minutes per episode of exposition/long-winded explanations of the magic system which is the main issue many people have with it. It's been nicknamed Infodump: The Animation.
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robis798 said:
So I really don't know anything about Mahouka apart from magic, but it seems like it has a good premise but wastes and ruins it with some typical Japan fanservice stuff like incest or lolis. Just like Black Bullet. Am I right?
Nope.

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He does. But they're not really that bad when you think about them in-context, plus they are things he picked up from Kiritsugu so yeah, if you wanna call Shirou sexist for some of his ideas then you Kiritsugu isn't any better o.o
Sure.

But I highly doubt
It's her fault tho :p
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I remember when fans kept saying it would be magical tech game of thrones and it turned out to be dull in every aspect.


I read someone saying that Akame ga kill was like game of thrones. Apparently every horrible anime is game of thrones nowadays.


Must be because game is thrones is bad.
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