tsudecimo said: Mikatarukito said: He forgets that sadly. OP isn't edgy enough for him. And the word keeps getting misused. I didn't think I would actually see someone saying Realistic = Edgy. SolBlade said: Just bring this discussion to the General Battle Shounen thread, please. At this point we're just repeating ourselves. Please no. This type of argument is perfect for this thread. Neither of them are really putting that much effort into their arguments, seems like a mindless fanboys back and forth. One Piece isn't reallistic in the slighest tho. And I was joking about the whole edgy thing. And once again... I'm not a fanboy. Seems like you misused that word as well. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: robis798 said: It really have dropped? ... Wtf? So only because people voted SnK in the who deserves to be in top 30 so everyone goes '' I should probably rate it down''. But nah, why do I even care what the haters think... Oh god how much can you convince yourself that everyone is against you and your favorite anime? You even feel bullied when there's absolute nothing going on and you're just making up this 'crowd of haters'. Is it so hard to deal with the fact that your favorite dropped a bit in average rating? It's a natural process especially for series that are fairly recent and have been overrated after they finished. More people check it out because of the success and the ratings balance themselves out. Posts like yours are exactly what I always mean when I say fans are CREATING haters, either by antagonizing them out of nowhere or by simply MAKING THEM UP as an explanation for everything that doesn't support the show being the bestest thing ever. Please. It just seems weird since NGNL was in top 30, but for some reason it's rating dropped in like 1 week, despite being finished airing long time ago. And now SnK is has dropped. Of course it is nothing major, but it is weird since that NGNL drop. And I'm not really making up the crowd of haters sas you say, cause most of people here are not that fond of it and a lot of people are calling it straight up garbage so you know. |
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Botato said: the reason its declining in position is because the hype is dying down. stop making up bullshit reasonsUnderrated: [img]http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/10/47347l.jpg[/ img] People seem to LOVE hating on popular things, and this anime right here is perfect proof; dropping from 8.90 to 8.79 in only a few moths time. I am convinced that the hate is the prime cause of the sudden decline in its average rating. MAL will just be MAL I guess. and I thought we were had overcome the dramaenthusiast days of posting pictures in this thread |
| No one can suffer from the SAO fall tho, it was ranked 74 or something, SnK is still kinda safe. |
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| You people make it sound like the rating process is completed when an anime has finished airing and after that the score can only change when people decide to hate on it and lower their rating, which is bullshit. NGNL just wen through the same thing and slowly started dropping after it had finished and the initial hype died down. You're talking about the average rating dropping by 0.0x or 0.1x over the course of at least a couple of weeks to some months. Only fanboy goggles will make you conclude this is only because of haters before considering any more probable causes. When your rating is in the upper 8.xx regions everyone who rates it 8 or 7 or 6 (decent to good ratings in case you don't know) will decrease the average rating. It doesn't need haters, just people who don't hand out 9s and 10s so easily and/or just use the full scale unlike many of the first-wave raters of any popular, current anime. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: You people make it sound like the rating process is completed when an anime has finished airing and after that the score can only change when people decide to hate on it and lower their rating, which is bullshit. NGNL just wen through the same thing and slowly started dropping after it had finished and the initial hype died down. You're talking about the average rating dropping by 0.0x or 0.1x over the course of at least a couple of weeks to some months. Only fanboy goggles will make you conclude this is only because of haters before considering any more probable causes. When your rating is in the upper 8.xx regions everyone who rates it 8 or 7 or 6 (decent to good ratings in case you don't know) will decrease the average rating. It doesn't need haters, just people who don't hand out 9s and 10s so easily and/or just use the full scale unlike many of the first-wave raters of any popular, current anime. Well I admit, I am a huge fan, so you know. But that NGNL drop was way way too sudden. |
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robis798 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: You people make it sound like the rating process is completed when an anime has finished airing and after that the score can only change when people decide to hate on it and lower their rating, which is bullshit. NGNL just wen through the same thing and slowly started dropping after it had finished and the initial hype died down. You're talking about the average rating dropping by 0.0x or 0.1x over the course of at least a couple of weeks to some months. Only fanboy goggles will make you conclude this is only because of haters before considering any more probable causes. When your rating is in the upper 8.xx regions everyone who rates it 8 or 7 or 6 (decent to good ratings in case you don't know) will decrease the average rating. It doesn't need haters, just people who don't hand out 9s and 10s so easily and/or just use the full scale unlike many of the first-wave raters of any popular, current anime. Well I admit, I am a huge fan, so you know. But that NGNL drop was way way too sudden. NGNL finished over 2 months ago and since dropped by what? 5 rankings? 0.05 average rating? It doesn't get much more normal. |
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| If you go to TV series it's still #24 at a solid 8.74. I don't think it's close to F/Z in terms of quality, characters & story telling but it's only .04 away. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: robis798 said: Well I admit, I am a huge fan, so you know. But that NGNL drop was way way too sudden. NGNL finished over 2 months ago and since dropped by what? 5 rankings? 0.05 average rating? It doesn't get much more normal. Well I guess. I don't know. Why can shows only drop ratings and not raise? |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: NGNL finished over 2 months ago and since dropped by what? 5 rankings? 0.05 average rating? it dropped by 0.12 actually. |
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Botato said: Underrated: People seem to LOVE hating on popular things, and this anime right here is perfect proof; dropping from 8.90 to 8.79 in only a few moths time. I am convinced that the hate is the prime cause of the sudden decline in its average rating. MAL will just be MAL I guess. Nope not underrated. Attack on Titan is mostly an average anime. It's current position is thanks to MALs infestation of 14 year old Weaboo kids love for hype, action, edge and gore. AOT though has a interesting premise. That's about it though. It's story is dull and mostly boring. It relies on action, gore, melodrama and edge to make the kids pantsu wet. The main characters are mostly cliche shounen anime cardboard cut outs who lack depth and aren't well developed. The pacing was crappy as well and the animation at times was lacklustre. That about sums up my thoughts on it and I found myself quite disappointed completing it. Yet again I had been rammed up the ass by another anime with an interesting premise but let down with shitty storytelling and characters as well as poor execution. Though it wasn't as bad as Sword Art Online. That one really hurt. :'( |
FIREF0X said: Nope not underrated. Attack on Titan is mostly an average anime. It's current position is thanks to MALs infestation of 14 year old Weaboo kids love for hype, action, edge and gore. AOT though has a interesting premise. That's about it though. It's story is dull and mostly boring at times and it relies mostly on action, gore and edge to make the kids pantsu wet. The main characters are mostly cliche shounen anime cardboard cut outs who lack depth and aren't well developed. The pacing was crappy as well and the animation at times was lacklustre. That about sums up my thoughts on it and I found myself quite disappointed completing it. Yet again I had been rammed up the ass by another anime with an interesting premise but let down with shitty storytelling and characters as well as poor execution. Though it wasn't as bad as Sword Art Online. That one really hurt. :'( It is in no way underrated it is in a very good place right now. But why on earth would you think that only kids can like this stuff? So action, suspeceful shows are now only kids shows and if I like Mushishi or smth so I am not a kid and I can be proud? PLEASEEEEE. I see nothing wrong in shows that are really entertaining and provide some decent story. That's why I watch anime. If I want something more serious and realistic I would go to real life movies. AoT has a very good story and characters for an anime. |
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robis798 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: NGNL finished over 2 months ago and since dropped by what? 5 rankings? 0.05 average rating? It doesn't get much more normal. Well I guess. I don't know. Why can shows only drop ratings and not raise? Well, as I said the first wave of watchers and fans usually includes a lot of casuals who rate everything higher than the average (8-10 scale for example is common), so the most popular anime of each season will always be a bit overrated and fall for a while after they finish. Okashi--chan said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: NGNL finished over 2 months ago and since dropped by what? 5 rankings? 0.05 average rating? it dropped by 0.12 actually. Still not unrealistic considering the amount of people who watched and rated it have doubled since then. |
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FIREF0X said: Nope not underrated. Berserk is mostly an average manga . It's current position is thanks to MALs infestation of 14 year old Weaboo kids love for hype, action, edge and gore. Berserk has a good protagonist. That's about it though. It's story is dull and mostly boring. It relies on action, gore, melodrama and edge and gore again to make the kids pantsu wet. The new characters after the eclipse are mostly cliche shounen anime cardboard cut outs who lack depth and aren't well developed. The pacing was crappy as well, where it feels a lot of chapters pass by without the plot really progressing, not to mention the hiatuses. Agreed. |
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| Loved Berserk until the Millenium Falcon arc. Now I find it hard to care for at this point because of the crap pacing and pointless, repetitive monster battles. EDIT: wait we were talking about AoT? Whatever |
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| Let's not talk about AoT anymore. I don't think there is much to discuss about it, you either like it or don't. |
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robis798 said: .[/quote]But that happened drastically with Shinsekai Yori.Well I guess. I don't know. Why can shows only drop ratings and not raise? It went from a ~6.xx to a 8.xx by the end of the series. I remember around ep 8~10 it was pretty underrated and underwatched. It is interesting to see how much it changed from then. |
Eearu said: But that happened drastically with Shinsekai Yori.robis798 said: .Well I guess. I don't know. Why can shows only drop ratings and not raise? It went from a ~6.xx to a 8.xx by the end of the series. I remember around ep 8~10 it was pretty underrated and underwatched. It is interesting to see how much it changed from then.[/quote] Well episode 8 did it's work. :D |
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robis798 said: Well I guess. I don't know. Why can shows only drop ratings and not raise? I will gladly admit that sometimes I get hyped with a series and overrate it when it's just finished, but after some time, I come back to it and rate ir more accordingly. |
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gedata said: Loved Berserk until the Millenium Falcon arc. Now I find it hard to care for at this point because of the crap pacing and pointless, repetitive monster battles. Agreed. Lack of progression in the plot killed Berserk for me. And one of the other main factors was |
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| Is Hamatora worth watching ? I only checked it because I saw it in Tokyo ESP recommendations. However, the first 2 episodes are not even half as good as ESP despite the higher rating. Also, it feels like an episodic anime. Not sure if it is worth continuing ? Tokyo ESP is underrated. It is much better than many anime with higher scores. |
thepath said: Tokyo ESP anime is shit. Read the manga and thank me later.Is Hamatora worth watching ? I only checked it because I saw it in Tokyo ESP recommendations. However, the first 2 episodes are not even half as good as ESP despite the higher rating. Also, it feels like an episodic anime. Not sure if it is worth continuing ? Tokyo ESP is underrated. It is much better than many anime with higher scores. |
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moonnya said: speaking of overrated. underrated, this winter looks amazing wait, it looks like a fake one ... Aw shit, I really thought Horimiya was getting an anime. |
moonnya said: they could of put more effort into the guilty crown 2 synopsisspeaking of overrated. underrated, this winter looks amazing [img]http://i.4cdn.org/a/1410790002241.jpg[/ img] wait, it looks like a fake one ... |
| Wow, I stopped reading Koe no Katachi since I catched up by that time and there are now almost +20 chapters for me to read lol. Well, I don't think that up until chapter 33 it deserves the rating it gets. In my opinion the one shot was better. Excited to read the new chapters now lol. |
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JD2411 said: moonnya said: they could of put more effort into the guilty crown 2 synopsisspeaking of overrated. underrated, this winter looks amazing [img]http://i.4cdn.org/a/1410790002241.jpg[/ img] wait, it looks like a fake one ... Yea. To be fair, I would watch a Guilty Crown remake. I like Shu's power. |
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thepath said: Is Hamatora worth watching ? I only checked it because I saw it in Tokyo ESP recommendations. However, the first 2 episodes are not even half as good as ESP despite the higher rating. Also, it feels like an episodic anime. Not sure if it is worth continuing ? Tokyo ESP is underrated. It is much better than many anime with higher scores. Don't bother with it. I would say it's similar to K Project or Karneval.. It's episodic by the most part, but does have a "final plot" near the end. To be honest, that fake chart looks pretty sucky, minus a few shows. |
tsudecimo said: Some good effort on the anime art on some of these, but Yamada's looks really inaccurate, to what an adaption would look like. I'm pretty sure the preview image of Yamada is from the official anime footage, though. I think from that 2min trailer that was released like a year ago. So I wouldn't call it inaccurate. |
| Who the fuck makes a fake chat wish list and then puts DEEN on it? |
| You don't need a fake chart wish list for that, it happens anyways every other season or so. |
BeatzMe said: tsudecimo said: Some good effort on the anime art on some of these, but Yamada's looks really inaccurate, to what an adaption would look like. I'm pretty sure the preview image of Yamada is from the official anime footage, though. I think from that 2min trailer that was released like a year ago. So I wouldn't call it inaccurate. My bad. But the blonde girl (forgot her name) isn't the type to look that way, all happy and blushing. She is the silent type, which is what I meant by inaccurate. skudoops said: tsudecimo said: Lol. It's like a wish list, that is never going to happen. Some good effort on the anime art on some of these, but Yamada's looks really inaccurate, to what an adaption would look like. I don't see how someone could wish for FMP from gonzo. Lol. The studio seems to be random I guess. |
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tsudecimo said: BeatzMe said: I'm pretty sure the preview image of Yamada is from the official anime footage, though. I think from that 2min trailer that was released like a year ago. So I wouldn't call it inaccurate. My bad. But the blonde girl (forgot her name) isn't the type to look that way, all happy and blushing. She is the silent type, which is what I meant by inaccurate. Probably just switched bodies with Yamada in that particular scene. |
BeatzMe said: tsudecimo said: My bad. But the blonde girl (forgot her name) isn't the type to look that way, all happy and blushing. She is the silent type, which is what I meant by inaccurate. Probably just switched bodies with Yamada in that particular scene. Ohhhh. You right. Lol. Completely forgot about that, been a while since I last read the manga. |
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| Yeah, well... Anyone has something to discuss? Something underrated? |
goodshitgoOdshitSep 15, 2014 12:08 PM
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keragamming said: After looking at the previous few pages in this thread, it seems I've missed out on the mayhem that was going on in this thread. you missed your chance to white knight shingeki no kyojin ;) robis798 said: Yeah, well... Anyone has something to discuss? Something underrated? Baby Steps and Nobunaga Concerto. |
robis798 said: Yeah, well... Anyone has something to discuss? Something underrated? It's always the same damn shows every time, I'm pretty sure we'll be back on HxH soon enough, that seems to be bitchin' popular this week. Not to mention this thread's regulars are always repeatedly bringing up the same shows over and over and over again. Too bad I don't give a flying monkey fuck about Haikyuu, Baby Steps or Nobunaga Concerto. At least we're not still going on about Clannad.... is what I would say, except it's all the same shit to me because I haven't seen any of these shows, nor do I care to. Maybe I should try and bring up another Gundam discussion shitshow by saying that CCA wasn't really that bad. |
| Mahouka is overhated, deal with it. He's not even that godlike |
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sumusiko said: Not hating on Mirai Nikki because it is a damn good show, but that deuce ex machina wasn't that godlike either.Mahouka is overhated, deal with it. He's not even that godlike |
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Milk_is_Special said: DONT MENTION MN, I CANT TAKE ANYMORE OF ITsumusiko said: Not hating on Mirai Nikki because it is a damn good show, but that deuce ex machina wasn't that godlike either.Mahouka is overhated, deal with it. He's not even that godlike sumusiko said: id be ok with Mahoukas rating if it was rank #1000 or lowerMahouka is overhated, deal with it. He's not even that godlike |
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fst said: Not to mention this thread's regulars are always repeatedly bringing up the same shows over and over and over again. I would mention more but I'm pretty sure most people haven't seen it (or wouldn't give it a chance) or respect the genre. Examples: Uta Koi, Meganebu!, Miracle Train, Samurai Flamenco, Ookiku Furikabutte, Major season 1, Hal, Nobunaga the Fool |
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