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Jul 6, 2014 3:13 AM

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Who?


http://myanimelist.net/people/7034/Takayama_Katsuhiko


As long as he doesnt put retarded dogmas like in Gargantia (man I hated those pricks with passion) I will be fine.
Jul 6, 2014 3:28 AM

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A sexy girl with blonde hair... oh... she's the princess lol.

Holy crap... now that's quite the huge mother ship...

Um... funny how this series from the start reminds me of Mass Effect lol.

Inaho... isn't that a girlish name O.o? Good thing that he's the top of his class/year, it at least proves that he won't be a useless male MC (I do hope so).

So the Vers Empire kicked humanity's asses and now they're trying to rebuild everything that was destroyed in the war huh.

2014, it's nice that this isn't taking place like hundreds of years in the future, but in the present time.

Sooooo Slaine likes the Princess, she will Inaho and Inaho will be oblivious or like her back, is that it lol?

They're going to try and assassinate the cute princess :O

Shit got serious and things are going to get very interesting from the looks of it!
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Jul 6, 2014 3:30 AM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:

I think it's been pretty fairly established that Gen Urobuchi does not do human feeling characters particularly well at all but writes rather writes them around philosophical concepts and ideas to be pitted against each other. As a writing style it's reasonably unique as far as anime goes both for some good and bad reasons.

i definitely agree with this. he did pretty well with the characters in psycho-pass, but other than that, his characters aren't exactly super relatable or fleshed out. but then again i don't think thats really his MO when it comes to characters, and thats fine too.

anyways, i'm not totally feeling the hype here. i'm cautiously optomistic, but to be honest there were a lot of cheesy/heavy handed moments such as the kid calmly watches missiles. the princess obviously is not dead because her face wasn't shown and we had that necklace scene. and "oh, how ironic we are! wishing for peace on castles of destruction falling from the sky".

also the whole martians racist against "terrans" because reasons seems like a pretty contrived way to set up the conflict. if we have to get into a bunch of boring mecha space politics im probably out.
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Jul 6, 2014 3:37 AM

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This anime looks great. I didn't see many mecha shows but this one looks just amazing to me. I wonder what happend to Princess. OST was great.
Jul 6, 2014 3:43 AM

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thedryness said:
if we have to get into a bunch of boring mecha space politics im probably out.
If we were, the princess wouldn't have been "killed" off in the first episode. It would have been a lot more intrigue, drama, setup and exposition.

I should keep a kill count, for now it's about 10 million on screen, and with more comet castles, I'd say about 300 million were obliterated by the blasts. But these are just fluff numbers, one can look the actual population of the cities mentioned lol.
Jul 6, 2014 3:57 AM

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First half was slow pace and it was boring with all the huge amount of exposition. Second half got more exciting and then suddenly...boom! Ppl are dead.

The guy voiced by Nakai Kazuya reminds me of the alcoholic ex-pilot from Independence Day(you know the guy who claimed to have seen the aliens but no one believed him and as such his reputation went down). Hopefully he plays a large role in this show cos his experience may prove helpful in the war.

I was a bit put off by the MC's lack of concern over the missiles but then I thought more about it. He didn't use his phone until the white limo appeared so maybe he was in cahoots with the perpetrators and was giving the signal. And he may have used the 'eggs are on sale' to cover his innocence.

And I don't think the Princess died. I think the little girl with the princess was posing as the princess while the actual princess is hidden safe and sound somewhere.

But the biggest shock goes to the wipeout of New Orleans. I expected the ship to land and cause an earthquake. Srsly did not expect the people to turn into ashes.Happy independence day indeed.
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Jul 6, 2014 4:15 AM

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thedryness said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:

I think it's been pretty fairly established that Gen Urobuchi does not do human feeling characters particularly well at all but writes rather writes them around philosophical concepts and ideas to be pitted against each other. As a writing style it's reasonably unique as far as anime goes both for some good and bad reasons.

i definitely agree with this. he did pretty well with the characters in psycho-pass, but other than that, his characters aren't exactly super relatable or fleshed out. but then again i don't think thats really his MO when it comes to characters, and thats fine too.

anyways, i'm not totally feeling the hype here. i'm cautiously optomistic, but to be honest there were a lot of cheesy/heavy handed moments such as the kid calmly watches missiles. the princess obviously is not dead because her face wasn't shown and we had that necklace scene. and "oh, how ironic we are! wishing for peace on castles of destruction falling from the sky".

also the whole martians racist against "terrans" because reasons seems like a pretty contrived way to set up the conflict. if we have to get into a bunch of boring mecha space politics im probably out.


Well in most of the war themed mecha series the antagonists side often have reasons and otherwise decent people on their side and the protagonists side likewise have reasons for the conflict as well so I would imagine that the conflict has to run a little deeper. For example in the original Gundam the Zeon declare war on the Earth Federation and end up dropping a colony on Earth to try and destroy heir HQ because the Earth Federation is demonstrably corrupt and has been oppressing and exploiting the colonies for years while the Earth Federation declares war back because they seceded and then dropped a colony on Earth without warning and used weapons of mass destruction against colonies loyal to the Federation. The Martians seem to want to return to Earth and have a curiously dickish way of going about it in terrorizing the people living on the planet so maybe it's like Age with the Vegans and their homecoming war of vengeance.
Jul 6, 2014 4:36 AM

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seems like it will be a nice show :)
Jul 6, 2014 4:40 AM

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Bit too much exposition, but hey, beggars can't be choosers. At least it allows us to get straight into the action. The second half of the episode was awesome. That ending was beautiful. I loved when the kid said he wanted world peace not knowing that the "shooting stars" signified the beginning of a war.

OST was really powerful. I cringed (in a good way) when the OST played right as they showed us the effects of the nuke. Animations are okay. It's A1 so I was expecting it to look like crap anyway, but it was better than what I was expecting. That's fine though, I don't watch an anime for it's animation quality.

All in all, expecting good stuff from this show. Hope it doesn't disappoint with such a beautiful end to it's first episode.
Jul 6, 2014 4:49 AM

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HOWEVER i already see the series being rushed as hell. 12 episode does not seem enough
Last I heard it will be split 2-cour. With Urobutcher writing the first three episodes and Takayama Katsuhiko the remaining 21. Don't have a source or confirmation as of yet, though.


that is good news
Jul 6, 2014 4:50 AM
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God. God.
God. God

I'm almost crying out of happiness here. When I read about this some weeks ago I was thinking this was going to be a huge trainwreck. But about an hour ago I saw that a review blog posted a review about the first episode, so I thought, why not watch it ? Well I'm glad I watched this.

The art and animation are 5/5. I really like the setting but I can't really say something about the story since I don't know how it's going to play out.
I'm thrilled to see what happened to the princess. Oh well, 5/5 this anime is epic. Can't wait to see whats going to happen to the Terran guy who is probably in love with the princess. Hope those terrorist scums all die.
Jul 6, 2014 4:52 AM
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Definitely an all-stars show, especially in the sound department.
The Vers Empire played it really low.
Sacrificing Asseylum just so that could start a war with the UE.
It was pretty obvious that it was set up, especially after seeing their reactions after the terrorist attack.
They didn't care for Asseylum at all.
For a first episode, it was really good. This has a lot of potential.
I hope we get an insert song from mpi as well, seeing as he works with Hiroyuki.
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Jul 6, 2014 5:09 AM

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This one is going to be real good. Especially the ost.
Jul 6, 2014 5:11 AM
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I'm enjoying the soundtrack already. At the very least, I'll be satisfied by the OST alone.
Jul 6, 2014 5:13 AM
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WOW! At first I honestly thought this anime was shit, but after watching it, I have to admit that the whole episode was amazing. A definite must-watch this season! Hope they don't fuck up anything
Jul 6, 2014 5:15 AM

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That was really good. Im sad this is only 12 eps. Hopefully it'll get a season 2.
Jul 6, 2014 5:33 AM
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Not bad for a first episode, it used shock-factor to impress mostly though. We can expect the 3 first episodes to be this way but for the rest, who knows.

I liked the background with the relics, etc. and at least the MC is not some idealistic, save the world idiot.
Jul 6, 2014 5:36 AM

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Geez..... This episode was insane for a mech-type anime. This was just insane... I like the main character's personality so far. He was just relaxed about the missile, too. Man.... I felt so bad for the Vers Princess. I mean... Ugh, she was such a kind girl and all she wanted was peace between Mars and Earth. She was really looking forward to making peace with Earth and all this craziness happens when she gets there. Argggghhh.. I am angry already.
Jul 6, 2014 5:48 AM
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is the song at the end german too?
Jul 6, 2014 6:01 AM

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That last scene was so goddamn intense I don't even
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A whole lot of crazy ass names. Now that the setting's been established, I look forward to finding out what they're gonna do with it.


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That was really good. Im sad this is only 12 eps. Hopefully it'll get a season 2.

It's a split cours anime. 2 x 12 episodes.
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Jul 6, 2014 6:16 AM

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Lovely first episode, but from here anything can go wrong. Fingers crossed they keep they keep this up.

Human v. Human is always the tastiest conflict, so hopefully there'll be plenty of politicking, discrimination, backstabbing, war games, and the whole gamut of 'fun' that comes with real conflict.
The aristocratic spin on the Vers Empire is a nice touch, and it'll be interesting to see how the presumably outgunned Earth forces can handle these numerous personal armies - and there's still the promise of the "monster" of Tanegashima, not to mention whatever technology was used to wreck the moon.

A lot of elements have been introduced, so let's hope they manage to juggle everything nicely across the series. First things first, we'll have to see how our trainee highschoolers are dragged into the story, and what manner of mecha warfare Aldnoah will be featuring.
Jul 6, 2014 6:39 AM
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Looks good, wonder how the plot will develop. Sounded good too, btw, instantly realized it was Hiroyuki Sawano when the epic ost began playing.
Jul 6, 2014 6:53 AM

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2,5/5 nothing special (and soundtrack too, it was too generic for me).
But I'm a little curious about the story, so I will wait till next week episode.
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Jul 6, 2014 6:55 AM

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Definitely an all-stars show, especially in the sound department.
The Vers Empire played it really low.
Sacrificing Asseylum just so that could start a war with the UE.
It was pretty obvious that it was set up, especially after seeing their reactions after the terrorist attack.
They didn't care for Asseylum at all.

I saw Count Dickhead DOES have some thought afterward about the princess, something like he should stop her. Maybe he is the only one who isn't involed in the conspiracy ?
Jul 6, 2014 6:59 AM
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It seems we gonna see another crazy mindfucking triangle like in Buddy Complex. Crzay soldier from Mars Empire driven crazy by princess and main hero coming closer.
Jul 6, 2014 7:06 AM

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Best opening shot! Knew Urobuchi never disappointed, but hoped for a first episode, the premise was so good! Great characters, script even better, promises to be the best anime of the year, so we have no doubt.

I really enjoyed the soundtrack, the animation was solid for all 24 minutes and this the end? Speechless. But hopefully there is no 'good side' or 'bad side' in the plot, after all, this is one of the characteristics of the scripts of Gen.
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Jul 6, 2014 7:22 AM
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So Mobile Suit Gundam: Urobuchi version. Not bad at all... Though they got their work cut out for hem if they indeed intend to "surpass Gundam". Topping the likes of Zeta and Victory in the Grimness and Tragedy of warfare is no easy feat.


Do you think Urobutcher's intention is to do to Gundam with this anime what he did to Sailor Moon with Madoka? If that's the case, then we can expect Inaho to wind up at the helm of one of those Martian robots we briefly saw.
Jul 6, 2014 7:42 AM
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All we can say so far is that this anime has potential.
Jul 6, 2014 7:47 AM
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Amazing first episode, the animation was exceptional in every scene thorough the 20 minutes. Also nice chilling OP (or ED?) at the credits. Definitely has potential.
Jul 6, 2014 7:53 AM
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Do you think Urobutcher's intention is to do to Gundam with this anime what he did to Sailor Moon with Madoka? If that's the case, then we can expect Inaho to wind up at the helm of one of those Martian robots we briefly saw.
Gundam's already grimdark as it is.


Maybe I shouldn't have said Gundam, but you know, the Sunrise-style "boy winds up in mecha, turns the tide of the war and becomes a hero" story so many mecha anime run on. Not all of them are grimdark. Heck, there's another one running at the same time as this show called Shirogane Ishi Argvellon.
Jul 6, 2014 7:57 AM

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@ NicoBlade,

It is still a mystery to me why Gen Urobuchi gets the love that he does despite his story-construction and writing style.

A lot of the love, as shown by tons of replies in this thread, comes from the fact that he "kills off characters". WTF?

Then some like him because he "brought back mature action anime" (F/Z), whatever that means, "deconstructed the magical girl anime" (PMMM) or just has interesting ideas (Psycho Pass).

That's all well and good but his characters are, um, I'm looking for the right word here but let's just go with "shit" and his writing style is pretty amateurish, and curiously heavy handed.

But if I were to boil down everything that is wrong with the fact that this guy gets so much love I would say that it is because his writing lacks heart.

Like really badly.


"No Response. The Story is A Corpse" badly.

I can safely say that I had zero plans of watching this UNTIL I read that he'd only be writing 3 episodes!

Hope the other writers turn this show into something amazing, though, because I really like the art-style and want to hear Hiroyuki Sawano's music for this (despite how same-y it's beginning to sound).

The things I've read so far (un-emotive MC, naïve princess, mass deaths, the ironic wish of the kids at the end) will make it hard for me to get through these first three episodes, though, but hopefully the transition from Uro-nonsense to hopefully better writers will be smoother (I'm thinking character development here).


I think it's been pretty fairly established that Gen Urobuchi does not do human feeling characters particularly well at all but writes rather writes them around philosophical concepts and ideas to be pitted against each other. .


The whole Phantom cast disagree...
I'm assuming you're basing that on Fate/Zero(or Sayaka from Madoka), which most idealist concept was created by Nasu (and presented on F/SN).
Jul 6, 2014 8:07 AM
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I'll keep this on my watch list doesn't seems bad at all
Jul 6, 2014 8:26 AM

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wot, dat end
Jul 6, 2014 8:30 AM
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@ Jao Zangetsu,

And Psycho Pass. And Gargantia. And Blassreiter (his involvement in both).

Haven't seen Phantom, But 1/5 does not a good writer/character creator make.

And due to the praise he's gotten off of PMMM and F/Z, two mediocre shows save for their music (which they share) and animation (like Ufotable, hate SHAFT) has made it so he doesn't mess with the formula.

But dude's formula is in need of messing with.

Over-reliance on shock-value will only get you so far.

To me Psycho Pass is the best thing that guy came up with. He managed to fuck that up too with bland characters, though.
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So, "Scramble for Africa" for the Martian super-race. I guess I'll keep watching.
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Jul 6, 2014 9:03 AM

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I'm gonna just get to the good point because the episode felt mediocre save for the last 5 minutes.

Dat nuke scene!! Holy shit the visuals looked great! And so much terrifying to see the citizens incinerated. O_o

I think the princess is still alive and will show up later. I have a feelings that the subjects of Vers Empire purposely organized the Parade so that the terrorists would try to assassinate her. This way, they will have a reason to wage a war against Old humanity.

I wonder how Nao/Inaho will be the center along along these events though.

Passable first impression. Looking forward to next episode.
Jul 6, 2014 9:14 AM

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Good stuff... But it' s UroButcher so we are in for a nice treat....

3.5/5
Jul 6, 2014 9:18 AM

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It wasn't any good until the last tenish minutes.
I'll keep watching.
Jul 6, 2014 9:47 AM

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Good episode except the kids scene before the ending credit, too cheesy.
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Jul 6, 2014 9:49 AM

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

This was by far, the best first ep of any anime this season to date. Everything was executed and presented pefectly, and the intensity was off the charts. Already shaping up to be one of the best summer shows and my favorite. Good job A1.
Jul 6, 2014 9:55 AM

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DawnJ said:
Good episode except the kids scene before the ending credit, too cheesy.


I don't think you know what cheesy means. This episode had no cheesy parts in it.

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I don't know what setup is.
Jul 6, 2014 10:00 AM

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DawnJ said:
Good episode except the kids scene before the ending credit, too cheesy.


I don't think you know what cheesy means. This episode had no cheesy parts in it.

Rytan said:
I don't know what setup is.


Cheesy and corny if cheesy was not enough, or you have not enough experience with anime tropes.
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Jul 6, 2014 10:02 AM

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I don't think you know what cheesy means. This episode had no cheesy parts in it.



Cheesy and corny if cheesy was not enough, or you have not enough experience with anime tropes.


First of all, the moment you are referring to definitely would not be an anime trope. Maybe you could make an argument for it being a general trope, but even then I cannot recall that scene from anywhere else.
It was irony, not cheese.
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First of all, the moment you are referring to definitely would not be an anime trope. Maybe you could make an argument for it being a general trope, but even then I cannot recall that scene from anywhere else.
It was irony, not cheese.

Then you might wanna dwell on the last sentence of my last post. Irony, yes, cheesy, yes, cheap, yes.
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Jul 6, 2014 10:15 AM

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DawnJ said:
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First of all, the moment you are referring to definitely would not be an anime trope. Maybe you could make an argument for it being a general trope, but even then I cannot recall that scene from anywhere else.
It was irony, not cheese.

Then you might wanna dwell on the last sentence of my last post. Irony, yes, cheesy, yes, cheap, yes.

And how exactly was it cheap?
No comment on the "not an experienced anime troper", though I did get a chuckle out of it. Real prestigious position there.
Jul 6, 2014 10:21 AM

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Then you might wanna dwell on the last sentence of my last post. Irony, yes, cheesy, yes, cheap, yes.

And how exactly was it cheap?
No comment on the "not an experienced anime troper", though I did get a chuckle out of it. Real prestigious position there.

What about "it's not cheesy because there's no cheesy scene because I felt that way" argument. Or am I an exile from a hive mind, which is you?

Cheap is just lack of effort and at the same time being not decent, that's how I use the word for writing. If you felt that scene beautiful (or whatever), then what, you felt that way.
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Jul 6, 2014 10:28 AM

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Pretty solid first episode. This show definitely has potential. Same music as Shingeki and opening by Kalafina.
Jul 6, 2014 10:35 AM

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Getting some Gundam Seed vibes

Inaho = Kira
Slaine = Athrun
Princess Asseylum = Lacus
Inaho's sister = Murrue Ramius
The Lieutenant = Mu La Flaga
Hopefully she matures like Relena Darlian in Endless Waltz instead of being dictator pacifist like Lacus at the end of SEED Destiny.

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Noob question: What is CGI and why is it important and what not?


CGI is the thing that everyone loves to bitch about. It stands for computer generated imagery, which almost all anime has made extensive use of since the 21st century.

The ironic thing is a lot of people who bitch about it don't realize that even the 2D parts of anime are completely CGI. For instance, this entire episode was completely CGI, same as every episode of, let's say, Death Note or Fate/Stay Night. If it's an anime made after 2000, you can pretty much safely assume it's completely CGI.

Now, what most of the whiners mean when they say CGI is known as 3DCG. This is 3D computer graphics, such as the mechs you saw firing off rounds training in this episode. Sidonia no Kishi is an example of an anime that uses 3DCG for all non-static imagery (models).

I always clarify with "3DCG" and "Cel shaded CG". I can give A-1 Pictures slack since they are making SAOII at the same time however. But I can't forgive sunrise for making the 3DCG fest of Akito the Exiled.

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