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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- So, basically Mirai had to go to the bathroom for the first half, and the rest was spent on Mirai and Yuuki's relationship. I'm glad that they finally started getting along..Mirai was being pretty mean to Yuuki and it was beginning to piss me off. I had a feeling Tokyo tower was gonna fall at some point during the series. They just barely dodged getting hurt again. |
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| Yuuki is such a sweetheart! I'd love to have a little brother like him. What little brother would give up his pudding to his older sister as an attempt to make her feel better?!? Mirai was being so mean to him, even after he admitted he wanted to go on vacation for HER SAKE...I felt so sad for the poor kid. Seeing those people get crushed under Tokyo Tower was heavy. :| Oh and what sort of bitch would spill their boiling ramen on a little kid and then walk away acting like it was the kid's fault? Jfc. Say sorry even if you don't mean it at least... |
| Not justifying mirai being a bitch to yuuki (because her character is just a bitchy teenager in general), but she did have a streak of bad luck: the feet wounds, getting hot ramen spilled on her, her ration bag hitting the mud, and getting stepped on. It's no wonder she vented on her little brother, who else could she transfer anger to without getting yelled back at? However I didn't list getting the runs as bad luck because that just happens. And when she has a portable paper toilet there's no excuse to not find some bushes to hide behind. If she just went earlier, she could have avoided the douchebag cutting in bathroom line. And I totally called those three going to Mari's place first, like she would just pass her own home on the way to he kids' house... Now it just needs an episode with some looters, con artists, or a sexual deviant; or maybe all the above. |
| ok the tokyo tower thing was ....surprising the rest only shows that humans are scum |
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| The only thing that didn't happened to Mirai is being struck by a lightening! And I still cannot believe hat after the fall of the tower all those people watching and nobody to help two little kids. |
| Tokyo EMOtude 8.0 - Mirai's period strikes... yet again. This anime has hardly anything interesting other than earthquake and destruction scenes. Human behaviour during such disasters has been covered over and over again, and Tokyo doesn't add anything new. Characters are bland and will hopefully improve later..if not then I'm dropping it. Bones is really mediocre when it comes to writing a scenario on their own. |
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| oh really.. Yuuki's kinda stupid sometimes : D although I'd prefer him as my little brother instead of my own one xD windy said: Oh and what sort of bitch would spill their boiling ramen on a little kid and then walk away acting like it was the kid's fault? Jfc. Say sorry even if you don't mean it at least... That was a bit.. mean . actually. and also, stepping on a kid's foot like that?xD Sure, I know why they were running like that, but anyway And I really think Mirai can stop being such an annoying brat already >.> kashim said: Tokyo EMOtude 8.0 - Mirai's period strikes... yet again. Yep it does, she serioulsy could consider how Yuuki feels too <.< And then: HUGE crying scene, followed by: lol happyface, and then: Tokyo Tower falls xD.. Followed by: Super-Yuuki jumps in : D But still, the best thing about this anime is the opening, rest is so far only average. |
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| An earthquake/aftershock cannot be good for having to take a dump really bad. I don't want to keep bad mouthing Mirai every episode but cut Yuki some slack, he's younger. Mirai's threshold for becoming annoyed is just much lower than anything I've ever seen or expereinced. I guess what I've been learning from this show is that you can find fault in seemingly anything if you try hard enough, or if you just be Mirai-emo enough. But at least I can honestly see that Mirai is scared about her parents and such, despite that super-emo exterior that she puts on. |
| Good episode, i am glad the pace of this show is slow because it suits it. These people are slowly moving through this crisis and rushing through would seem stupid. Mirai definitely is giving on a lot of realistic teenager emotions. Which is the reason i don't hate her like quite a few people do. The fight between her and Yuuki was down well too. Siblings fighting is so common. Good to see that. I have noticed that amongst the realism, they keep doing stuff like a drastic monument destroying right where they are. This is technically unrealistic but I can see what they are trying to do. They want to show what they think it would be like if one of these monuments got destroyed, since it would be likely these things could get destroyed in this situation. Well another week's wait i guess. |
| This series is slowly boring me. It's not as realistic as it could be (even more with such a pompous message before the OP...), the direction and script are weak, and I'm clearly feeling less and less interested. I think this episode did it. kashim said: This anime has hardly anything interesting other than earthquake and destruction scenes. Human behaviour during such disasters has been covered over and over again, and Tokyo doesn't add anything new. Characters are bland and will hopefully improve later..if not then I'm dropping it. Bones is really mediocre when it comes to writing a scenario on their own. I agree particularly on the last part, and I even add that BONES has been bad (even very bad sometimes, see Soul Shitter, Sword of the Stranger, Eureka seven The Movie, Bounen no Xam'd and Ayakashi Hayashi for example) at writing scenarios and developping interesting characters for at least 3 years now. And as this time, direction is at most average, I probably won't watch more. |
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| the little girl really pisses me off, the way she treats her brother but I guess they're trying to make the anime as real as possible |
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| Wow.. Mirai's attitude is sh*t.. I don't know if this happens to anyone else but.. Don't you just love it when Mirai get's hurt or something bad happens to her? (That's karma for ya b*tch!) For a second there I thought Yuuki died. I would be like "What the f-" Someone make a Mirai hate club plz. Mirai can suck my fat salty balls ▲ ▲ ▲ can you triforce newfag? O__o /b/ is getting to me.. |
| Oh man, tell me you did not just say Sword of the Stranger was bad. That's just wrong on so many levels. Well, this episode was slow, but I don't think it's that bad. In fact, I think the show flows better this way--I mean would you want to see the three of them running around like the three blind mice with falling buildings and cracking roads everywhere for eleven whole episodes? The fact that the show could afford to take such breaks to facilitate character development is a testament to its good characterization and sturdy writing(Although the character designs still look like crap for a Bones production). |
| PORTABLE PAPER BATHROOMS FTW tho i havent really seen one b4 =/ lolz dam didnt expect teh tower to fail |
| I thought Mirai had her period at first. Anyhow, she sure meets all the pissed-off and ego-tripiping people... Tokyo Tower fell! Anyhow, Mirai needs to be less of a bitch and whiner and start acting as a big sister already. |
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| That was a very good episode, and it was needed, too. A lot of emotions and a nice concept. If you're still bitching about Mirai's character, it shows you cannot even comprehend the simplest things, additionally the whole scenario is damn scary. |
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| Hmm it was nice to see that Yuuki and Mirai made up. :D Yuuki is so sweet >_< Wonder if anymore hardships will befall them... |
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| Not going to lie, I was a little bored by the episode. I enjoyed seeing Tokyo Tower fall, but the parking lot breakdown, and Mirai and Yuuki's phone thing felt like rehashed ground. It's kind of amazing that she can snap about the same things so many times in one day. Not even my little sister (who is the devil incarnate when she's on her period) would have the energy to complain as much as Mirai, so put into the perspective of time...it is a little much. |
| Good episode. Mirai sure has some bad luck, lol... |
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stAtic91 said: Good episode. Mirai sure has some bad luck, lol... oh.. you call THAT 'bad luck'?xD I'd say it's a bit worse |
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Oosran said: stAtic91 said: Good episode. Mirai sure has some bad luck, lol... oh.. you call THAT 'bad luck'?xD I'd say it's a bit worse Worse would be if the tower fell on her or if she was boarded on the second ferry. I'd still consider her condition as bad only. |
| This episode is actually more realistic than the other episodes - the government response, the 'back-to-normal attitude', some people actually acting nicely. And Mirai acting out in the beginning also annoyed me, but at least it was normal to be herself at that point. And her increased bitchiness during the phone scene was actually nice, because it wasn't really caused by everyone doing mean things to her, it was because of post-traumatic stress. The way she keeps trying to call home, her increased annoyance at little things, her lashing out at her younger brother, everything was her way with dealing with things. I'm just sorry for Yuuki, who has to take care of his older sister - must be hard being the mature one around. Now, that doesn't mean they weren't retarded things in the episode. To note: The line cutting thing, especially for the toliet, would never fly - everybody would obviously react against the line cutter, especially if he had the nerve to try bringing others in. What, is everyone behind Mirai (and that guy) blind? The noodle spill was complete crap. It was a normal situation, not a trauma, so there is no excuse for it. The stepping was ok, because the couple was clearly worried. The dropped bag was Mirai's fault. Now that I think about it, why is everyone acting like assholes all series long? (no disasters don't make everyone greedy or selfish). Lastly, it was a really dumb decision to place an evacuation facility in the vicinity of the Tokyo Tower - definitely asking to be killed there. |
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DragonsWhip said: I thought Mirai had her period at first. Me too I think a lot of people forgot what it was to be a teenager, and how you can easily get upset on every little thing...add the events occuring here, and Mirai's reactions seem pretty realistic and understandable. Also, it's the same for Mirai and Yuuki relationship, fights happen on a regular basis, but you make up quickly after because it's how it works. |
| Good episode, wonder what will happen next. |
hnr said: the little girl really pisses me off, the way she treats her brother but I guess they're trying to make the anime as real as possible qft |
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| This episode didn't fly by as fast as the others have for me -- I think it was partly because we had a rehash of the "siblings get separated and almost meet disaster!" scenario again. (I'm also not a fan of scenes of children crying ...) Like Mari said, they all need to stick together; it seems like the really bad stuff happens when they're separated. On the other hand, the focus on the small things (like needing a toilet) that make life just that little bit more worse was well done. And I hope that after the big outburst this episode, Mirai's bitchiness level goes down a bit. I wonder if we'll make it to Shibuya in the next episode -- was that where Mirai's friends were going in the first episode? If so, I could see our characters meeting up with them (or finding them dead, perhaps). |
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| I found out the reason why I hate Mirai. It's because she's a dick to Yuuki. Yuuki is the first character to remind me of someone (my little brother) in real life. I personally see someone being a dick to my little brother, ergo I hate Mirai. I'm betting MAL: Someone dies within the series in the next three episodes. Either Yuuki or Mari. Yuuki because he keeps getting lost with instances where it appears like he will die, and Mari because I think the producers want us to see what the kids would be like if they were left alone. Would it turn into a Jyu-Oh-Sei like show where the older sibling kills the weaker, younger one to surivive...? 23 minutes is too short. I tried to to delay watching it by answer messages...but no dice! |
| Was a pretty bland episode but it's to be expected since they're trying to keep this as realistic as possible. As for one of the three dieing...it's doubtful. If anything we will probably find out Mari's family was killed or worse both family's where killed. Wouldn't that be an ironic ending? The women that's been acting like your mother the whole time becomes your new guardian. |
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kashim said: Characters are bland and will hopefully improve later..if not then I'm dropping it. Bones is really mediocre when it comes to writing a scenario on their own. Were you expecting moeblob characters in a disaster series? ... The whole thing is on realism, and believe it or not, kids actually act like this in real life. |
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| Here's my take on the episode... sorry it is so long, I guess i'm feeling analytical. Mirai and Yuuki's interaction was very emotional and realistic. Yuuki as an innocent or optimist is the complete opposite of Mirai's pessimistic outlook. It really became noticeable in the scene when her and Yuuki fought. They are both worrying, but whereas Yuuki can still function it seems as though Mirai can only give up. In fact at first, I thought Mirai's bathroom troubles was a weird throw in, but now I wonder if it wasn't alluding towards her worrying and thus equaling stomach issues? Also, when they both started crying in the park it sort of brought it all home that Mirai is just as much of a child as Yuuki... worrying about her parents and upset about the situation they've come into. We have to remember that Mari's role is the parental figure, whereas Mirai and Yuuki are the children roles. Instead of comforting Yuuki, Mirai is only able to cry herself. As I think about it more, this show is not one that you can just accept at face value.. there are a lot of things that hint at deeper meanings. I know other people mentioned in earlier threads about Mirai's distrust of adults... how bout this episode? She is sort of inundated with irresponsible adults (ramen lady, foot stamper, bathroom guy, etc) to justify her mistrust. However, I think the show is trying to ease her into trusting adult figures with characters like Mari and the people who try to help out when Yuuki/Mirai are crying. I think overall this show is not so much action driven as character. Probably why a lot of people find some of it dull. |
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fisher_88 said: This really made me wonder as well. On top of that, when the first aftershock hit, nobody sitting underneath the Tower moved out of range even though it noticeably budged. I guess they were somehow under the impression that it couldn't fall.Lastly, it was a really dumb decision to place an evacuation facility in the vicinity of the Tokyo Tower - definitely asking to be killed there. |
windy said: fisher_88 said: This really made me wonder as well. On top of that, when the first aftershock hit, nobody sitting underneath the Tower moved out of range even though it noticeably budged. I guess they were somehow under the impression that it couldn't fall.Lastly, it was a really dumb decision to place an evacuation facility in the vicinity of the Tokyo Tower - definitely asking to be killed there. That bothered me to no end. Who in their right minds would set up anywhere near a large structure that appeared (at least to me) to be structurally unsound? They are supposed to be trained professionals right? Anyway, Mirai said the meanest thing possible to her brother by blaming him for what happened. There's no excuse for that behavior especially when Yuuki was just trying to cheer her up. That said, her behavior was understandable given the collective toll of the unfortunate mishaps that happened to her, combined with the stress over not being able to contact her parents. People can hate her all they want, but try to be more understanding first. Personally, I'd rather direct my venom at all the jerks that push around kids when they should be behaving like adults. |
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| lol she had to go to the bathroom poor thing! i at first thought she had gotten her period! |
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| For several minutes, Mirai pissed me off with her snapping and all. On the other hand, Yuuki was somewhat mature to handle the problems/thoughts by himself. But then again, he still a child and cried later. He has many worries too. Oh yeah, Yuuki was cute when he was testing the portable toilet. He was funny there. Oh, the tower fell. I was glad Yuuki turned out alright. |
| The portable toilet is interesting. Looks like a baby potty. I don't think this episode is bland at all. I like that we're seeing how frighten and insecure Mirai really is. Because she couldn't handle these feelings, she took to lashing out against Yuuki. But what she didn't know is that Yuuki is equally frighten and concerned about losing his family and home...He's such a bright little boy but he too has fears and when he finally broke down, that's when Mirai knew that she isn't the only one having those fears. He's trying to be a little man but is still only a boy and hopefully Mirai will be more understanding towards Yuuki. |
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| I think Mirai deserves all the bad things that happen to her =x But I thought it was another great episode, how people act, this anime is very faithful to reality in such acts. |
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eRe4s3r said: If this is realistic, then that is the worst disaster handling ever. (Any sane person would go to local emergency shelter (those usually have food and electricity) and stay there till relief is there (3-5 days). Nobody anywhere would WALK though the entirety of any big city to get to his home unless he is insane Guess I'm insane then. |
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| ^Doesn't seem like that law exists in Japan (suspected looting), since that's what everyone is doing in the show. Disliked this episode. It was just boring and annoying to watch, far from entertaining IMO. It was quite stupid as hell, and it seemed as if it wasn't even done on purpose: boy brat: "We know where our house is, but we don't even know if it's still safe, even I know that much!!" NICE ONE, let's forget that your sister TOLD you exactly that 10 MINUTES (in their world, just 2 mins in ours) ago. The sister wasn't even looking at him with a "....I JUST TOLD YOU THAT" but with a "...I can't believe he thinks that, poor kid, now I'm sad too" look, yet, she's the reason. I started skimming through the episode after that point (the toilet scenario before it... what a waste of time. How the girl had so many bad things happen to her in 1 minute, what a waste too, just to 'move' the viewer, and it did the opposite to not only me I'd bet). What I noticed when skimming through the second half: 1. Shitload of crying 2. Old people and the brats being like super-happy again, as if everything is forgotten 3. Tokyo tower crashing and brat boy looking dead, sister goes 'wahhh' 4. Everyone's safe, they meet up with adult woman, everyone's happy. *palmfaces* The anime has been going the completely wrong direction I was hoping for it to take. I'm still clinging unto the hope that it actually changes route and doesn't continue with these shitty plot devices (nothing really new this episode (WHOA TOKYO TOWER CRASHED, how the hell was that not predictable?), we've seen them crying/being pissed/sad [every ep], feeling better [ep 2 and 3], thinking the brat boy is dead [ep 2], seeing them get pushed around by adults/assholes [every ep] already). What was original this episode? I think that people helped them for once (those oldies). Last time was them helping the mom with the baby carriage. So, look at it this way; THAT was the only NEW plot device? What's next? Them saving a kitten and all of the fans going "AWWWWW SUCH AN AWESOME EPISODE" ? I'm not a BONES fan since I don't know many of their shows, but the ones I did watch such as DtB and CB:KoH'sD weren't at this level. This is just, disappointing to say the least I don't really mind using up 20 minutes of my day every week, which is why I'll try to finish it anyway. Maybe I'm a fool for hoping this, seeing as how it's looking atm. Btw, want to add this in case: This isn't a rant about realism/the girl brat's whiny teenager attitude (I'm one of the few who actually found it normal since episode 1, unlike most people). It's how BONES is taking people for fools with these horrible plot devices. I'd go as far to say they're pulling off a KyoAni (Lucky Star, K-On! ; In the way that the same things are re-used constantly, not the character developments, as BONES is doing that, although it's always the SAME way every episode) but I don't want to get flamed to hell for that while people would ignore the actual point of my post. But yeah, I said it anyway. |
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eRe4s3r said: There is a clear directive that in a declared disaster zone you do not travel randomly to your home (or anywhere) and indeed authorities won't let you in your house or even walk in any adjacent district until all danger sources are eliminated (fires/gas leaks/floodings/ground shiftings etc.) In the end you'd be pretty SOL in your house, no Gas/Electricity and Water and no food because its all gone bad due to no electricity, not to mention you might have just walked 5 days just to find there is no supplies anywhere near your house. Your house is one thing, family is another. If I were in their situation, I would not give a damn about what anyone told me. I'd be out looking for those I care about. Like shit I'd stay at some shelter for 3-5 days wondering whats happened to everyone else. Same situation with Mirai in episode 2 really. |
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