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| Felt bad for Shiina she trying to a little bit more normal and he like, 'naw be a robot" for what it seem, and what was up with that dream? shit had me busting up quick min, it was so random. along side that all that left to say is YO Dat Mini Skirt! Emotion were high here |
HydnlifeJan 8, 2013 9:45 PM
Red_Keys said: You people are pissing me the fuck off. Why don't you think about Sorata's emotions, and put yourself in his place? If you can't see where he's coming from, and why he is frustrated, you haven't been paying attention to the show. Yea, Shiina's cute. But please think with your head, instead of your dick. Dat Rage. |
| It's not easy being a Nanami fan in this world. Look at all the shit we have to put up with! About time we get a break (even though it'll probably only last for a fraction of an episode). Nanami FTW! |
| Tempted to drop this serieis. The MC is probably one of the weakest characters i've seen thus far in my anime watching life. I'm just really put off with his attitude and bullshit. I would honestly say that watching this show has now become unenjoyable because of the MC's actions. This is one of the few times where i wish the MC ends up with no one and sets off by himself. He still needs so much more time to mature and grow as a person. I don't know if i can put up with this much longer. I always cringe and sigh whenever he gets depressed over stupid shit. Think i should keep going or drop it right now to save my valuable time? |
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Ajunky said: Good one. Shithead.Red_Keys said: Wow, killer argument.Yea, Shiina's cute. But please think with your head, instead of your dick. It has absolutely nothing to do with what is being said, but killer. >.> Oh, I get it... You're illustrating how someone can say stupid things when angry... now I see. I'm alluding to people with sentiments similar to, "Shiina is cute! I'd never make her cry! Look at how cute she is! Sorata is a jerk! How dare he not accept her love! What an idiot! I'd give her all of my love! She is so cute!!" The people giving Sorata shit, who don't take into account his emotions and experiences, and see "Made Shiina upset. Therefore asshole idiot and I hate him." AKA thinking with your dick. Cuteness > Character. ForbiddenSins said: Heaven forbid characters have emotions! That's like, blasphemy right there! Character development? What's that?Tempted to drop this serieis. The MC is probably one of the weakest characters i've seen thus far in my anime watching life. I'm just really put off with his attitude and bullshit. I would honestly say that watching this show has now become unenjoyable because of the MC's actions. This is one of the few times where i wish the MC ends up with no one and sets off by himself. He still needs so much more time to mature and grow as a person. I don't know if i can put up with this much longer. I always cringe and sigh whenever he gets depressed over stupid shit. Think i should keep going or drop it right now to save my valuable time? |
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ForbiddenSins said: I'd say drop it if you don't like it. Maybe watch 1 or 2 episodes, then drop it. After its over, probably see the reaction of people, and then decide if you're gonna pick it up again, cause if ur not enjoying it cause of the MC, see how he develops, cause usually MC's have the same irritation level throughout the series. But I'd still probably give one or two more episodes.Tempted to drop this serieis. The MC is probably one of the weakest characters i've seen thus far in my anime watching life. I'm just really put off with his attitude and bullshit. I would honestly say that watching this show has now become unenjoyable because of the MC's actions. This is one of the few times where i wish the MC ends up with no one and sets off by himself. He still needs so much more time to mature and grow as a person. I don't know if i can put up with this much longer. I always cringe and sigh whenever he gets depressed over stupid shit. Think i should keep going or drop it right now to save my valuable time? |
Red_Keys said: Ajunky said: Good one. Shithead.Red_Keys said: Wow, killer argument.Yea, Shiina's cute. But please think with your head, instead of your dick. It has absolutely nothing to do with what is being said, but killer. >.> Oh, I get it... You're illustrating how someone can say stupid things when angry... now I see. I'm alluding to people with sentiments similar to, "Shiina is cute! I'd never make her cry! Look at how cute she is! Sorata is a jerk! How dare he not accept her love! What an idiot! I'd give her all of my love! She is so cute!!" The people giving Sorata shit, who don't take into account his emotions and experiences, and see "Made Shiina upset. Therefore asshole idiot and I hate him." AKA thinking with your dick. Cuteness > Character. ForbiddenSins said: Heaven forbid characters have emotions! That's like, blasphemy right there! Character development? What's that?Tempted to drop this serieis. The MC is probably one of the weakest characters i've seen thus far in my anime watching life. I'm just really put off with his attitude and bullshit. I would honestly say that watching this show has now become unenjoyable because of the MC's actions. This is one of the few times where i wish the MC ends up with no one and sets off by himself. He still needs so much more time to mature and grow as a person. I don't know if i can put up with this much longer. I always cringe and sigh whenever he gets depressed over stupid shit. Think i should keep going or drop it right now to save my valuable time? Hmm, you an angry person irl? Try not to quote someone when you have nothing constructive to add. I don't enjoy sarcasm when it's used to vent out one's personal frustrations/anger. Before you berate me for being narrow minded, let me say this. I watch anime to unwind and destress. I know where Sorata is coming from, having experienced similar things myself. However, even though i know where he's coming from, i can no longer tolerate watching him. You seem to think that everyone on this forum is as dense as Sorata. I'd be willing to bet that everyone here has had similar experiences. Does that mean that i'm thinking with my dick? No, it just means i dislike the MC's attitude and actions. Thank's AnimeHAwk616, i'll take your suggestion and drop it for now. I'll peruse the forums once the show ends to see if peoples reactions change. |
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| First, I'm not angry. I curse. But I'm not mad. And second, my comments to you and to Ajunky were separate. But anyway, you contradicted yourself. How is understandable and logical character behavior "bullshit"? You said you understand where he's coming from, and why he acts the way he does, yet you want him to act differently, going against his personality (which was established at ep 1) and all of his experiences. That doesn't make much sense. It was apparent in the first few episodes that this series was also going to be heavy on drama. If that is not what you wanted, you should have dropped it a while ago. |
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| It's painful reliving mistakes. It's painful watching other people make the mistakes you made... but saying you can't tolerate watching him is kinda pushing it. In my head, I was yelling"No! keep your emotions in check, you're not saying what you actually want to say." and then I thought, maybe this is a ploy to lengthen the show like lelouch accidentaly using geass or maybe I should just accept this as a mistake main character made and move on. If you're willing to drop the show from this however; I contest you're putting to much emphasis on this specific part of the love aspect because that's not all Sakurasou has to offer, and that your standards maybe too high. |
| Being unable to control emotion I think it's usual for someone who's on growth period. In this case, Sorata. Perhaps this attitude of his will change in the future along with his way of thinking. Anyway I won't say that I hate Sorata ('cause for me this seems unreasonable) and i will continue watching this series till the end. p.s the new OP is better, i like it! but not the ED though.. |
ForbiddenSins said: Yeah, no problem.Thank's AnimeHAwk616, i'll take your suggestion and drop it for now. I'll peruse the forums once the show ends to see if peoples reactions change. |
Ajunky said: I guess you don't like to read, because one, I already stated I'm not mad, and two, a few of the comments I quoted actually did imply that.And yet not a single person you quoted seemed to be thinking along those lines, going by what they said. You're assigning thoughts that were never implied. BTW, does using nonsensical insults calm you down? If they actually do help you I won't say another word about it. Anyway, I'm tired of this argument. Go look at this thread. The OP described what I wanted to say much better. And insults actually do make me feel better! It's quite fun. Shithead. |
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Ajunky said: Except for these two.Nah, you just fail at reading. Not a single one implied it. |
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| You're reading too much into this and taking what I said too literally. The "quote" that I initially wrote was obviously satirical and exaggerated. And I said sentiments "similar to". Not "exactly". Please just shut up now. |
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| Ducking the flames... "Did you ever have to make up your mind To pick up on one and leave the other one behind It's not often easy and not often kind Did you ever have to make up your mind..." John Sebastian & The Loving Spoonful Sorata, it's time you realized just what you have to do... |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| but what the heck was in the letter? did his game get rejected? |
bakapunt said: but what the heck was in the letter? did his game get rejected? Some people are slow, yea his game got rejected. |
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| What the hell is Sorata thinking? I thought that he was aware of her feeling, yet he is so dense. Can't wait for next week! |
ForbiddenSins said: Tempted to drop this serieis. The MC is probably one of the weakest characters i've seen thus far in my anime watching life. Hey... buy you have watched Nenon Genesis Evangelion so... it's not true. Still, this is just the begining of the seccond part (as for me, i didn´t liked the episode that much 3/5 imo) was horribly paced, the OP/ED are not as good as teh preious ones (as i said before) Still... it's worth to see one or two chapters more. Just in case this is just a head warmer while the real deal comes up. |
Theodoricos said: Pfft, people calling Sorata a 'weak' character? He's human, and yes, I do not agree with what he said right there but he made an honest mistake because he's not perfect. I may not like a lot of things about this flawed show, but at least I like that Sorata isn't a total Gary Stu who always knows the right thing to say. Funny thing is that if he was doing all the right things he would be called a Gary Stu, and yet if he is flawed like he is now people call him a "weak" MC, its like they want a balance of the two created to their preferences. It really amazes me how people can't read into emotions at all... |
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| I liked it. The new ending was so stupid lol made me laugh though. I liked the song. Only thing that would make the episode better would be Ryuunosuke! |
Red_Keys said: ForbiddenSins said: Heaven forbid characters have emotions! That's like, blasphemy right there! Character development? What's that?Tempted to drop this serieis. The MC is probably one of the weakest characters i've seen thus far in my anime watching life. I'm just really put off with his attitude and bullshit. I would honestly say that watching this show has now become unenjoyable because of the MC's actions. This is one of the few times where i wish the MC ends up with no one and sets off by himself. He still needs so much more time to mature and grow as a person. I don't know if i can put up with this much longer. I always cringe and sigh whenever he gets depressed over stupid shit. Think i should keep going or drop it right now to save my valuable time? Well its clear after all these people never felt frustration, they never got mad, heck they did something worthy of regret either, what a bunch of saints we have on this forum. Makes you wonder if it makes them hypocrites for criticizing Gary Stus then, considering that's what they act like they are. |
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| What's with the score? It changed from real score, then 8.34 then went back to normal, and now it scored 8.34 again, with less people who scored it. I noticed its happening for a some other currently airing fall anime's. |
| Sorata's attitude truly annoyed me this episode. |
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shizwizard said: Sorata's attitude truly annoyed me this episode. That's kinda funny coming from someone who has Shinji Ikari as a favorite. |
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| I can understand why Sorata is mad, but he went wrong. And some peoples act being perfect calling him as "weak MC". So, are you in right way everytime ? Wow, your life is really boring, no ? And yeah, my English sucks. |
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lifestyLe said: It's better than my Spanish(?) ;)And yeah, my English sucks. |
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shadowtsunami said: Actually this score rise was like some bug. It happened to JoJo, Psycho Pass, Robotics Notes and all other airing shows that are 2 seasons long. It hasn't happened before and was likely caused by them changing the way the scoring system works. If you take the true average of the scores on sakurasou, its score is still 8.218. All those other shows I listed are also quite a bit lower. The score change you are referring to only happens when the show gets marked as finished, not while it is still airing.AnimeHAwk616 said: MAL updates the scoring twice a day. Also it is the middle of the series and that's when a lot of people start scoring the show, which means the score changes drastically. Also when it ends people again people score/rescore the show. It's like how Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun went from 8.34 to 8.13 and Sukitte Ii nayo went from 8.00 to 7.81 after they finished airing. Same goes for Pscyho Pass once it hit the halfway point it went from like 7.9 to 8.34 too. Matter of fact most shows I'm watching went up by like .3. But this may drop back to 8.19 at the end.There is something wrong here. How did this show go from 8.19 to 8.34 in like 1 day, and the vote counter went down too. Did something get reset or something? And god that dream at the beginning was funny. Actually, the whole episode was hilarious. Also the new op was pretty good. I liked the old one better maybe. But it is very creative. |
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| Didn't we have this episode before? Didn't Sorata made the same dick move before? Didn't he realize that was pretty stupid? Yet he does it again. I know of that "Sorata's behaviour in ep 13" thread still he's an asshole for doing the same shit twice. Blaming others for his own shortcomings is just plain stupid. But we had this discussion last time as well. God damn. It's as the end of last episode never happened.. the hell? so much wrong here. /ragemode Shiina was cute trying to cook for Sorata. He's so not worth her..or Aoyama.. |
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nantuko said: God damn. It's as the end of last episode never happened.. the hell? Sigh...no point in even answering your other points if you know of the other thread yet still can't except the points made there, will say this however, ever consider that he didn't hear what she said? The plane flew right over and there was also that dream. They never gave any indication that he heard what she said yet denied it, so as for it "never happened" because in all likelihood for him it never did, he never heard what she said. |
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shadowtsunami said: Usually around the half way point, the score doesn't change that much. Around the last episode is where a lot of people would score all at once, making it drastically change. Tonari dropped a lot mainly due to the last episode being a bad conclusion. Since shoujo anime are at times about a will they, or will they not, having an indecisive conclusion made it drop, not really the entire show itself. psycho pass's score had the same glitch as sakurasou, and same with zetsuen I think, and robotics notes and little busters, where all the scores just jumped drastically.AnimeHAwk616 said: There is something wrong here. How did this show go from 8.19 to 8.34 in like 1 day, and the vote counter went down too. Did something get reset or something? And god that dream at the beginning was funny. Actually, the whole episode was hilarious. Also the new op was pretty good. I liked the old one better maybe. But it is very creative. MAL updates the scoring twice a day. Also it is the middle of the series and that's when a lot of people start scoring the show, which means the score changes drastically. Also when it ends people again people score/rescore the show. It's like how Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun went from 8.34 to 8.13 and Sukitte Ii nayo went from 8.00 to 7.81 after they finished airing. Same goes for Pscyho Pass once it hit the halfway point it went from like 7.9 to 8.34 too. Matter of fact most shows I'm watching went up by like .3. But this may drop back to 8.19 at the end. |
| I'm really enjoying the emotional aspect of the show so far, but it too is getting rather frustrating when he clearly could have taken a better approach. Primary arguments about Sorata acting like an idiot are valid, however everyone in this world do have emotions, are not perfect, and of course, do stupid things and make mistakes in their teenage years. Its more the premise of how Sorata is learning from his experiences, and of course, trying to improve which is great for character development. I personally would have acted the same way Sorata has, if i was placed under so much pressure from Geniuses, and not able to perform at the same level. So i do understand his frustration. Going through a similar life event, I personally, would have taken a different approach these days, but only because i've learned from those experiences. So, have a think. Put yourself in his shoes, from the start of the series to here. Would you have made the same decisions as outlined in the anime? or would you have acted differently? P.S - Chillax. Its an anime, not some high tension political argument. Also, if my post was already mentioned prior, sorry, i couldn't be bothered reading through 8 pages. |
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Ajunky said: InfiniteDestiny said: I'm sure he didn't hear what she said, due to the plane, but he probably has an idea about what it was, yet he can't bring himself to believe she could say something like that (because he has the idiot MC archetype), and hence the weird dream... it's like his subconscious is screaming: "hey, realize it already!". At least that what I think the dream meant.nantuko said: Sigh...no point in even answering your other points if you know of the other thread yet still can't except the points made there, will say this however, ever consider that he didn't hear what she said? The plane flew right over and there was also that dream. They never gave any indication that he heard what she said yet denied it, so as for it "never happened" because in all likelihood for him it never did, he never heard what she said.God damn. It's as the end of last episode never happened.. the hell? I can sorta agree with that, but its also due to two reasons that i think are relevant, or at least among the reasons he denies it. First off he have long since been established to feel inferior, she is the center of it all as well, he may get better with time and the past events but his feeling inferior will take a long time to truly go away if it ever does. Second off she has been depending on him this entire time, romance requires equal standing he likely believes that what she feels isn't romantic love and that he shouldn't misunderstand it. Aside from jealousy he admires her, admiration often gets in the way of affection, its part of the very reason he feels she is wasting her time by not doing manga on something like cooking which he doesn't have a clear cut reason on why she desires to do so. |
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| He's going to break his promise. I just know it! x.x Something's probably going to come up (most likely with Shiina :P) lol |
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| This series is so great, I like the shared time with all of the characters rather than just focusing on Shiina and Sorata, espeicially since I like Nanami so much. I'm so glad there was no interruption when Nanami asked, and can't wait to see that next episode. Unfortunately, my favorite male character, Ryuunosuke, didn't show up this episode.. Anyway, more conflict. Obviously sometime later in the series Sorata will make it. Shiina doesn't understand her own feelings and therefore behaving unusually, and Sorata is too dense to notice, so that's not good. Love this series, can't wait for the next episode. 5/5. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: plot armor Shinna This isn't battle/adventure/action anime. No one dies here and it's Shiina. |
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| Interesting and cute episode. Lol @ that ending animation. |
| Not again this lame drama...Sorata, don't force me to call you Shinji again. |
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