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| does anyone has the pic of sodoko with her clones/copies, it was a photoshop one from ep 8. |
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| The Discipline Committee / Duck Team Gomoyo  Sodoko Pazobi The Discipline Committee ( 風紀委員 ) for the Ooarai Girl's Academy consists of three girls. The committee's job is to enforce school rules. This sounds a bit weird to North American people, but I know that this idea exists in some other countries besides Japan. The Chair of the Discipline Committee is Midoriko Sono. Her nickname is Sodoko. As is often the case in Japanese nicknames, it is formed by picking some syllables from the original name. Start with Sono Midoriko. Then arbitrarily pick out some syllables: SOno miDOriKO. And you get Sodoko. Don't call her Sodoko because she hates it. You should address her as Sono Midoriko. Midoriko always stands at the front gate to record the names of anybody who shows up late for school. There are other rules such as no makeup. Also, every rule also applies when attending any official school function, and that includes tank battles. Fans asked GaruPan Director Tsutomu Mizushima if the three girls are clones or sisters. They are not, he said. They merely have the same hair style. There is a longstanding tradition that members of the Discipline Committee always have a bob cut. Here are the three members: Last name: Sono 園 First name: Midoriko みどり子 Nickname: Sodoko そど子 Inspiration for nickname: Sodom ( name of a famous ancient city ) Hair style: jet black, bob cut Hair length: medium Voice actress: Shiori Izawa 井澤詩織 Position: Committee Chair, Tank Commander, 47 mm gun Last name: Gotou 後藤 First name: Moyoko もよ子 Nickname: Gomoyo ごもよ Inspiration for nickname: Gomorrah ( name of a famous ancient city ) Hair style: jet black, bob cut Hair length: long (to shoulder) Voice actress: Shiori Izawa 井澤詩織 Position: Driver Last name: Komparu 金春 First name: Nozomi 希美 Nickname: Pazobi パゾ美 Inspiration for nickname: Italian film director Pier Paolo Pasolini who directed "Salò, or the 120 days of Sodom" Hair style: jet black, bob cut Hair length: short (top of ears) Voice actress: Shiori Izawa 井澤詩織 Position: 75 mm Howitzer |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 5:55 AM
| Damn, this show knows how to leave you hanging for more. Some wicked tank driving in this episode. |
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| ^ See also the karaoke version which shows the lyrics (in Japanese). Symbv posted it yesterday. It dates from the Meiji era. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=JP&hl=ja&v=ELvCVDLFauk Sing along. We have lots of snow here today so maybe I'll give it a try. |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 8:41 AM
| The anglerfish dance must be the highlight of the episode. The look of everyone's faces is just hilarious. I'm even embarass watching them. |
| This looks like a draw which means the victor will be decided in a different way. My guess is either by the number of tanks taken down or the number of tanks still standing most likely the first one that is if it's a draw. It was a exciting match and it's a wonder no one got hurt especially the student council's tank that was hit hard even spinning around. I wonder how the hid the StuG so fast in the snow it's pretty big after all it was a nice action tho. The face of Miho's mother when she was looking at that dance was so funny looks like she didn't like that part at all. She was also about to leave when she taught the situation was hopeless i wonder how she will think about her daughter now that she managed to fight herself out of that hopeless situation. And Hana's mother seems more involved in the match then expected so maybe her view might change as well. |
| Somebody wanted to see this composite image of the discipline committee http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121110/20121110122151.jpg I hope the link works. If not, cut and paste into another browser. See also great fan art of Sono-san (Sodoko): http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/025/750/86/N000/000/000/135255316849513224323_1210k.JPG http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/025/750/86/N000/000/000/135211924560913210150_1203z.JPG http://www.gofuweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/sodoko.jpg |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 7:26 AM
SayuriUliana said: The IS-2 never got detracked. In fact, of all the tanks that the Pz38(t) engaged, it was the one that came out the least damaged, and was the only one able to move to meet up with the pursuit team. It true though that previous incidents show tracking as not being a knock-out condition. We first see this in episode 4 when the Pz38(t) got detracked, and yet still managed to continue on into the fight. Ah you are right. I thought it got detracked since they said something like "IS-2 is now back" when they met up with the pursuit team but if you check the episode around 15:59 it is clear that the IS-2 is the only one that is moving. |
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Dalek-baka said: Very nice episode KV on guard was funny... Sure it's tough but weak gun, low speed makes it not the best choice. 152mm M-10 howitzer is NOT a weak gun. It only has to hit the target. From my post in ep8 discussion thread (got deleted due to rollback, good thing I copied it): KV-2 with 152mm M-10 howitzer - slow, big - and badass. M-10 is shooting 5,5kg shells - sheer weight of the bullet is enough to tear apart a tank. This gun is dubbed a "trollgun" or "derpgun" by world of tank players - it can seriously damage high tier tanks (like let's say: IS-3, Tiger II, Jagdtiger - info for those who don't play world f tanks, what "high tier tanks" means; added just now, 11.12.12) or (if lucky) one shot them. Main drawbacks - poor accuracy and rate of fire. KV-2 has also very nice armor, pretty much impenetrable from the front (maybe except from those 75mm guns equipped on stug and pz4). Anyway - epic episode is epic. |
| Even outside the anime itself, the director Mizushima keeps throwing pleasant surprises at us. He now got one of the Ooarai girls to dance the Anko Dance in real life earlier today !! It was broadcast in Nico video and apparently it will be included as an extra in one of the BDs to be released ! So who took up the challenge to dance in full camera view? Which seiyuu? It is Mikako Takahashi, seiyuu for Yuzu the big-breasted girl from the student council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikako_Takahashi . She is also the seiyuu for Rebecca in Dog Days too. Reading her history made me realize that there is a reason why it is her who danced: Before she became a seiyuu back in 1999 because of the anime Excel Saga, she was on a singing career and she did not fear singing in cosplay costume in public event. Even after she became a seiyuu, occasionally videos of her doing the dances of pop singers like AKB48 could be seen. So it makes sense to pick her to do the dance in public, although even her fearless history of singing in cosplay did not persuade her agency to allow her to dance in that tight outfit LOL http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19558700 |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| You need to have registered with NicoVideo in order to view that Ankou dance video. But registering is free and not hard and does not require Japanese. Start the registration process by going to: http://www.nicovideo.jp It is worth the minor hassle. Some other anime series have dances associated with them. But this one is a classic ! Please refer to my Post #28 for an explanation of the meaning of her name "Yuzu". |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 9:52 AM
| There's the youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2dHpF0VSdE |
| A highly entertaining episode, special mention to the Anko Dance, absolutely hilarious (especially with the mother's face, just priceless), Yukari x Rommel combo, and deadly Nonna (how can this show produce so many fantastic girls is beyond me). 4/5, eagerly awaiting for the next part. |
| Hi Jyuu-niDesu: It's an old World War 2 Japanese design carrier, most likely Kaga or Tosa class, suggesting that the school is kinda old. GaruPan Director Tsutomu MizuShima put out a tweet about this specific issue. The Ooarai ship is certainly based on reality. However... it is not based on a real ship. It is based on TWO real ships ! Both of them are World War II Japanese aircraft carriers. They used one ship to model the superstructure. (The part that sticks up.) They used another ship to model everything else besides the superstructure. Unfortunately, I can't find that old tweet. But he was very specific about which two ships he used. One was prewar and the other was built very late in the war, as I recall. I think that the bottom part is based on the newer ship. The superstructure is based on the older ship. Can't be sure. Are there any experts on WWII aircraft carriers out there? |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 12:36 PM
| Most of the major Japanese fleet carriers (Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku) were laid down, launched, and commissioned prior to the start of World War II. Of the fleet carriers built during the war: Hiyo: Laid down 30 November 1939, launched 24 June 1941, commissioned 31 July 1942 Junyo: Laid down 20 March 1939, launched 26 June 1941, commissioned 3 May 1942 Taiho: Laid down 10 July 1941, launched 7 April 1943, commissioned 7 March 1944 Unryu: Laid down 1 August 1942, launched 25 September 1943, commissioned 6 August 1944 Amagi: Laid down 1 October 1942, launched 15 October 1943, commissioned 10 August 1944 Katsuragi: Laid down 8 December 1942, launched 19 January 1944, commissioned 15 October 1944 Shinano: Laid down 4 May 1940, launched 5 October 1944, commissioned 19 November 1944 I'd need some good shots of the Oarai academy ship before I can determine which one is the hull and which one is the superstructure, assuming someone else doesn't beat me to it first or that old tweet is somehow recovered. |
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| ガールズ&パンツァー Twitter公式アカウント. (2012年11月20日) 大洗女子の学園艦は、瑞鶴をベースに、艦橋部分は赤城というハイブリッドデザインとなっている。 This was tweeted from the GaruPan producers on November 20th, 2012. The Ooarai (大洗) Girls' (女子の) Academy (学園) ship (艦) is a hybrid (ハイブリッド) design (デザイン), with the base (ベース) coming from the Zuikaku (瑞鶴) and the bridge (艦橋部分) from the Akagi (赤城). It seems strange that they chose to do this, since they didn't hybridize anything else in the series. |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 1:20 PM
Jyuu-niDesu said: A Tiger fan is yet again disappointed. Some people were wondering where the Tiger crew is going to come from. It's obvious - the girls in tan coveralls who are back at the shop fixing it, the Vehicle Club. It's Stalingrad, all right. The Oorai team huddled in blankets in the cold, with no food, unprepared for a Russian winter. The History team had it right.  German soldiers after the battle of Stalingrad - Pravda should have worn ski pants with their military jackets. It would reinforce their hardcore cold-weather-ready image, while still looking cute. |
| That cliffhanger, serously?..................... |
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| Well, Hell. |
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| Ahh cliffhanger! Intense fighting in the snow this episode, almost reminds me how cold it is these days from where I am tbh. |
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| In Post #78, Takuan_Soho surprised me with his point about how a good story should raise questions in the viewer's mind and then answer them later. I guess it sounds obvious, but I hadn't thought of it that way before. I'll admit I don't know much about literature. I certainly get the point. We all remember the last scene of Episode 1. The camera slowly zooms back from the tank shed and we see the entire school yard, and the entire town and then ... what the heck? The whole things is on a giant ... uh ... aircraft carrier! Okay, well, you think about it rationally and you quickly realize that the high school and the Sunkus store are going to get in the way of aircraft takeoff and recovery operations. So "aircraft carrier" isn't quite the right word. Very little explanation has been given since then, but we have seen that every other girls' school is located on a some kind of giant ship as well. Okay... well... we now realize that "aircraft carrier" was the wrong terminology. But ... turns out ... "ship" isn't quite the right word either! This was finally revealed at the start of Episode 8 when we saw the brass plate on the door. No, they didn't use the generalized Japanese word that means "ship" ( 船 ). They used this word: 艦. In combination with other Japanese characters, 艦 can mean a lot of things. But it ALWAYS somehow refers to a naval vessel, a battleship, a cruiser, a fleet, the captain, missiles that can hit ships. etc. You can easily check this by doing a Google Image search for 艦 and you will immediately see what I mean. It isn't necessary to consult a Japanese dictionary. Something else of interest is that back on November 20th the GaruPan producers sent out a tweet when some fans asked about which aircraft carrier they had used as a model. When the GaruPan people tweeted back, they did NOT use the word "aircraft carrier" but they did use 艦, making it 100% clear that the girls' school is located on a military vessel. Panzerfahren / Senshadou is a kind of martial art, along with karate and judo. "Senshadou is not war," the characters have said. In addition, there are those girls below decks wearing the white sailor suits and white sailor caps. Another tweet explained that they are studying fisheries. That isn't war either. But it is now 100% clear that these schools are located on top of warships. This raises a LOT of questions in my mind. I guess I have no option but to keep watching the show in order to get some answers. |
okanaganDec 11, 2012 5:00 PM
| i am looking a photoshop version of this: http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/mutopis/1355240126152.jpg it had several sodoko clones in it, has anyone seeing it? |
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| DAT DANCE... it's back :D and lol'd at people's reactions~ Chance is high that they won this... but still, we can't make sure of it :| |
| Hi Mutopsis, Those aren't clones. Yes, a lot of people think they look like clones. From left to right you are lookng at Gomoyo, Sodoko and Pazobi. Look carefully. They are not really so similiar. But they all happen to have the same hairstyle which is called a "bob cut". There is a long tradition that the members of their committee always have this same haircut. I think it looks nice. |
okanagan said: Hi Mutopsis, Those aren't clones. Yes, a lot of people think they look like clones. From left to right you are lookng at Gomoyo, Sodoko and Pazobi. Look carefully. They are not really so similiar. But they all happen to have the same hairstyle which is called a "bob cut". There is a long tradition that the members of their committee always have this same haircut. I think it looks nice. other than that, I am still looking for the photoshop version, it had several copies making into an army, i am looking for the pic. |
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okanagan said: Hi Mutopsis, Those aren't clones. Yes, a lot of people think they look like clones. From left to right you are lookng at Gomoyo, Sodoko and Pazobi. Look carefully. They are not really so similiar. But they all happen to have the same hairstyle which is called a "bob cut". There is a long tradition that the members of their committee always have this same haircut. I think it looks nice. lol, I believe he didn't mean they are real clone. It is just a way of calling them collectively since they all look alike and calling them Sodoko clones is just convenient. Yes, a lot of people call them clones, but they don't mean they are real clones. |
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| them tanks a lil to fast me thinkz. whos tank was buried? |
Dont bother replying to my posts in forums, dont check them afterwards. |
KingCez said: Modern fuel additives can do wonders ;)them tanks a lil to fast me thinkz. KingCez said: It was the StuG IIIwhos tank was buried? |
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orzel286 said: Dalek-baka said: Very nice episode KV on guard was funny... Sure it's tough but weak gun, low speed makes it not the best choice. 152mm M-10 howitzer is NOT a weak gun. It only has to hit the target. From my post in ep8 discussion thread (got deleted due to rollback, good thing I copied it): KV-2 with 152mm M-10 howitzer - slow, big - and badass. M-10 is shooting 5,5kg shells - sheer weight of the bullet is enough to tear apart a tank. This gun is dubbed a "trollgun" or "derpgun" by world of tank players - it can seriously damage high tier tanks (like let's say: IS-3, Tiger II, Jagdtiger - info for those who don't play world f tanks, what "high tier tanks" means; added just now, 11.12.12) or (if lucky) one shot them. Main drawbacks - poor accuracy and rate of fire. KV-2 has also very nice armor, pretty much impenetrable from the front (maybe except from those 75mm guns equipped on stug and pz4). Anyway - epic episode is epic. The M-10 Howitzer (including the gun on the KV-2) had a "semi-AP" round that was about on par with the Soviet 85mm weapons in penetration, and a high-velocity AP round was later introduced that was on par with most heavy tank guns in that respect. However, even with HE or a non-penetrating round, it could do significant damage. The sheer force of impact from such a large shell would jar around loose objects inside the tank (and even break apart solid ones into fragments), sending them flying around like one wouldn't believe - injuring crew and damaging sensitive components. I've heard talk of the Russians recently going back to this concept and working on full-calibur tank rounds similar to a shotgun slug to do much the same thing. The advantage is that it can easily incapacitate any tank. The disadvantage is that said tank can also be easily repaired and returned to the field. Obviously, that doesn't apply here though. The KV-2, in addition to having a low rate of fire (the M-10 used a charge system like other artillery guns, rather than self-contained cartridges) and being mechanically unreliable and a huge target, it also had an abysmal turret traverse rate. This is not dissimilar to the relatively slow traverse on Tiger tanks that faster T-34s exploited by rushing to close range, but a few orders of magnitude worse. Ironically, the closer a tank gets to it, the more useless the KV-2 becomes, so it really wasn't the best choice for running around in restricted terrain like a villiage. It died appropriately though. |
| Hopefully, we can see the Tiger P with a new tank crew and they'll have a 7th tank. They said, back then Oorai had eight tanks. I wonder tank they'll discover next? I'm hoping for a Pershing or Jagphanther |
MagitoDec 11, 2012 10:26 PM
oldskoolpunk said: Seems like the staff of the Anime underestimated cold weather as well.Jyuu-niDesu said: A Tiger fan is yet again disappointed. Some people were wondering where the Tiger crew is going to come from. It's obvious - the girls in tan coveralls who are back at the shop fixing it, the Vehicle Club. It's Stalingrad, all right. The Oorai team huddled in blankets in the cold, with no food, unprepared for a Russian winter. The History team had it right. German soldiers after the battle of Stalingrad - Pravda should have worn ski pants with their military jackets. It would reinforce their hardcore cold-weather-ready image, while still looking cute. You mention ski pants but the girls don't even have leg warmers, anime obsession with short skirts is taking it a bit to far in this case there is no way a girl would wear a skirt in this kind of weather without some protection against the cold. It should be mentioned that German supply chains where cut during the battle of Stalingrad and despite there preparation they still managed to captured most of Stalingrad. And the Eastern front was harsh on both sides not just the German side. |
| that tankfight.... was..... f*cking.... AMAZING!!!!! duck team snaking like bosses. and not only that, lot of highpoints on the ep....... Cossack dance..... COSSACK MOTHERF*CKING DANCE and dem pokerfaces when the anglerfish dance xD  (cant get enough of Saori's Goddess-tier Zettai Ryouiki) [edit: heh, they should make that dance a sort of match ritual like New Zealand's All Blacks have theirs xD] also: yeah, wtf where you expecting, trying to have your tea on such a blizzard  |
CatastrophicDec 12, 2012 12:28 AM
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okanagan said: ガールズ&パンツァー Twitter公式アカウント. (2012年11月20日) 大洗女子の学園艦は、瑞鶴をベースに、艦橋部分は赤城というハイブリッドデザインとなっている。 This was tweeted from the GaruPan producers on November 20th, 2012. The Ooarai (大洗) Girls' (女子の) Academy (学園) ship (艦) is a hybrid (ハイブリッド) design (デザイン), with the base (ベース) coming from the Zuikaku (瑞鶴) and the bridge (艦橋部分) from the Akagi (赤城). It seems strange that they chose to do this, since they didn't hybridize anything else in the series. Yay I'am right, It's design derive from a Zuikaku type carrier. Though I did't get the Akagi[the carrier used prominately throughout the Strike Witches series] island right though. Magito said: Hopefully, we can see the Tiger P with a new tank crew and they'll have a 7th tank. They said, back then Oorai had eight tanks. I wonder tank they'll discover next? I'm hoping for a Pershing or Jagphanther It's stated on page 2 of this threat that there will be Type 3 chi nu tank commanded by the unknown 3 girls team appearing later on(it was teased in the ending of episode 9). Which makes the Tiger P the eighth team, although is unlikely, I relly want Anglerfish team to command the Tiger. Catastrophic said: yeah, wtf where you expecting, trying to have your tea on such a blizzard My thoughts exactly, along the fact that how Katyusha can sleep in the blizzard. . . . Happy Jyuu-ni-Jyuu-ni-Jyuu-ni everyone!! |
GastonLaBaston said: Can someone tell me where i can find the "Advance in the snow" song which the girls sing while scouting for the enemies, can't seem to find it on youtube This one, maybe? |
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AiCon said: Seeing this is the national tournament, those are actually Japanese. It's interesting how they have tanks from all over the world while all the other schools they've faced only have tanks from their nations. There's also a 4koma series in Pixiv that keep a running joke that Daarjeling is just a Japanese girl pretending to be British (and her real name is Dajiri ^^; ) About the tank... there's theory in this topic that Ooarai is actually an old ship compared to the other schools. The possible scenario is, they've been participating in tank since the early days before retiring and in those days, it's normal to use mixed composition, any tank you could get/salvage. In the other hand, the newer schools have the clean slate to build a whole new tank division composed of tanks from similar country, or they have the budget to rebuild their old tank lineup. While Ooarai, under difficult financial situation, had to sell away their tanks. |
 Borscht, snow, tanks, and cossack dancing, but where is the vodka? |
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