Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 Episode 7 Discussion

Kayro said:
As it was expected, Lelouch has went emo after what happened, but I'm glad that state didn't last long (I did find Lelouch's "circus" quite amusing =P). And I can't believe Kallen backed out at the last moment =/

Also, wtf kind of ending was that (I'm talking about Lelouch's decision) =S

BlackDeath said:
Meh, this episode contained the least amount of plot twists thus far. Quite a dull episode nothing much to add.

Ani-Blast said:
So why the haste with CC over keeping Lelouch alive? Does she really love him or this is a Geass witch condition of some kind?

BlackDeath said:
Meh, this episode contained the least amount of plot twists thus far. Quite a dull episode nothing much to add.

Metroid_Ex said:
You mean awesome episode because there wasn't as much hideous errors as there have been the past few weeks.

Obby said:
great character development. imo it was really necessary at this point in the story. it seems realistic that someone in that position should break down before he comes up with some solution.

Master_M2K said:

I just want to know the logic behind Lelouch's decision because I cannot predict what will happen from that episode preview (>_<)?

Sukotsutsu said:


I'll tell you what, Lulu is going to be doing some slaughterings and get Nunnally. From the title of the next one mirion minagoroshi (million massacre), and the images, there will be a conference of sorts where both the Black Army (in disguise) with Zero, Nunnally and some other party will meet. They are about to give a speech when bam!, Black Army deploys smoke screen via backpacks, and Lulu will try and get Nunnally again, while possibly damaging the Britannia forces in some manner.

Aionic said:
With my expectations and interest lowered, I was going to leave this until tomorrow... I ended up watching it since it has become a routine thing for me to do on Sunday evenings/Monday mornings.

The episode opened with an enjoyable copy of the Emperor's speech from S1 (I actually thought it was the same at first). Although the Emperor is starting to get old and he doesn't sound as epic as he did in the past (much like S2 in general) it was still nice to see him go into speech mode.

The next part of the episode was pretty good: It dealt with Lelouch being depressed and his reactions to Nunnally's speech. Seeing Lelouch depressed for once and on the verge of collapse was interesting, the only time we've seen like that in the past being after he'd sent Euphy on a killing spree. He was seriously losing it at times during the episode, using his geass on people freely and making them do random things for his own amusement.

I didn't like the pointless Kaguya (sp?) scene that took place in-between Lelouch's depression/insanity, where she went on about being Leliuch's wife and made C.C. hold hands with Kallen (more fan service). It's frustrating me how most of the female characters have been reduced to nothing more than fan service and comedy roles, Nunnally being the only one to play a major role in S2 and not suffer.

It got worse after that scene, the 'kissing' and yaoi scenes being as bad as expected. Even when losing it, it seemed very out of character for Lelouch, a character who's shown no sexual interest whatsoever, to suddenly walk up to Kallen and request comfort. The way the LelouchxRollo scene that followed (Rollo needlessly put his face VERY close to Lelouch) was handled showed that Sunrise just did it to please the fangays/girls.

Sadly, my distaste for certain parts of the episode didn't end there, the scene where Lelouch returned to the Ashford roof and started crying over his filler character memories boring me. The sooner Ashford is burnt down the better - Those characters just fill up space and are annoying.

It did pick-up after the Ashford scene for the end, with submarine action and Lelouch predictably returning to the save the day with another one of his plans that he's able to come up with within seconds. It wasn't thrilling, but it was an entertaining enough action sequence for the 7th episode of the series... I'm just glad there wasn't another surprise submarine transformation thrown in.

The ending made me interested to see the next episode. Ignoring the fact Nunnally has been made into Euphemia's replica and this special region of Area 11 stuff has been done already, the way it's going to go in this season is unpredictable since Lelouch won't be stupid enough to make the same mistake twice and obviously has a plan.

...oh, and I have to mention that the preview showed Viletta in a swimsuit, meaning even more bloody fan service. -_-

One last thing: The submarine randomly appearing wasn't explained or even mentioned. Nunnally seemingly realizing it was her brother calling her at the end of EP6 was also never mentioned, leading me to believe her look was just put in without any thought.

Rating: 7.5/10
This episode didn't change my feelings: I'm just not very interested in Code Geass nowadays. S2 has failed to meet my expectations and has been nothing more than a massive disappointment up to this point; a weak effort that's been made to cling to S1 to avoid it falling flat on its face.

CookedCelery said:
Lulu didn't think of C.C. at all while in emo mode.
I'd have expected some counseling b/t CC and Lulu, followed by a hot steamy kiss and sleeping together.

Aionic said:
It got worse after that scene, the 'kissing' and yaoi scenes being as bad as expected. Even when losing it, it seemed very out of character for Lelouch, a character who's shown no sexual interest whatsoever, to suddenly walk up to Kallen and request comfort. The way the LelouchxRollo scene that followed (Rollo needlessly put his face VERY close to Lelouch) was handled showed that Sunrise just did it to please the fangays/girls.

vindemon64 said:
I thought this episode was quite necessary. Lelouch's conflicted emotions was the reason for his out of character like actions in this episode, for all of you complaining him being OOC.

Yeah, it may have not been as exciting as others, but Lelouch really needed to find his reason for continuing his fight. To me, it would have made NO sense whatsoever for him to continuing on being Zero when he had previously claimed that Zero's existence was solely for Nunnally. I really enjoyed this episodes and the many emotions behind all of the characters. It was a nice change of pace from previous ones.

Now that Lelouch has accepted Nunnally's proposal, I wonder what his real intentions behind it are going to be. You soooo know he's definitely got a plan B (C through R as well) after this plan A.

EchelonV said:

And in this episode we continue to see how much of a power hungry prick Suzaku has become.