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China's Communist Party (CCP) has proposed amending the country's constitution to allow President Xi Jinping to serve a third term in office.



why not? it worked great for Putin but not for Russian people lol
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Feb 26, 2018 12:06 AM
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Power grabs left and right, worldwide.
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Feb 26, 2018 5:53 AM
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hey, china wasn't soo bad currently... also they need stability then uncertainity to maintaince their economic growth... it also need to be noted that power in china is heavily desentralized nowdays... dictator like mao is impossible, except you abolish bunch of otonomy rule which pretty sure not even communism party would happy about it... pinoy is more possible to made dictators than china tbh...
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Feb 26, 2018 7:39 AM
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I'm not surprised, Jinping is pretty much a dictator already.


Feb 26, 2018 8:21 AM
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Nothing New in the West. We have a quite well-known Candidate for whom a Term Limit would be desirable.
Feb 26, 2018 12:14 PM
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Noboru said:
Nothing New in the West. We have a quite well-known Candidate for whom a Term Limit would be desirable.


If you're in the US right now, impeachment is the most desirable.


Feb 26, 2018 12:19 PM
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J_LEE_C said:
Noboru said:
Nothing New in the West. We have a quite well-known Candidate for whom a Term Limit would be desirable.


If you're in the US right now, impeachment is the most desirable.
At the very least, your Candidate will be gone at latest within 8 Years. Also, our Candidate is more likely to last your Candidate's full theoretical Time in Office than your Candidate fulfilling it.
Feb 26, 2018 12:22 PM
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Noboru said:
J_LEE_C said:


If you're in the US right now, impeachment is the most desirable.
At the very least, your Candidate will be gone at latest within 8 Years. Also, our Candidate is more likely to last your Candidate's full theoretical Time in Office than your Candidate fulfilling it.


Where are you from?


Feb 26, 2018 12:26 PM
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J_LEE_C said:
Noboru said:
At the very least, your Candidate will be gone at latest within 8 Years. Also, our Candidate is more likely to last your Candidate's full theoretical Time in Office than your Candidate fulfilling it.


Where are you from?
From the Place on Earth formerly known as the "Land of Poets and Thinkers".
Feb 26, 2018 12:37 PM

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Noboru said:
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Where are you from?
From the Place on Earth formerly known as the "Land of Poets and Thinkers".


I'd vote for Merkel over Trump. If I'm not mistaken, she's the longest tenured there since Hitler correct?

PS - unrelated, but recently watched a german-Netflix original series (not anime) called "Dark" and it was so good.


Feb 26, 2018 12:51 PM
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Noboru said:
J_LEE_C said:


Where are you from?
From the Place on Earth formerly known as the "Land of Poets and Thinkers".


i think your government there in Germany is doing a great job though with news like this
Germany books record surplus as economy keeps growing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-books-record-surplus-as-economy-keeps-growing/2018/02/23/d7d004bc-1876-11e8-930c-45838ad0d77a_story.html

other countries continue to pile debt while your country have surplus? thats crazy awesome if you ask me
Feb 26, 2018 12:52 PM
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Intellectuals in the PRC are using people like Trump as an argument for why Liberalism and Democracy are bad and that it's a just fancy idea that the West needs to keep their politicians at bay and it's completely unnecessary because look at how great Xi is and how much better everything is getting and how in China the politburo who keeps him in check.

They also have the most cynical vision of the West you can possibly imagine, saying all the advancements of the 20th and 21st century in the West are merely power grabs designed to ensure American global authority.

They aren't the only ones, people think that all the stuff that Russia does in places like the West is to make people they like in power. It isn't. They keep their power to places that actually want them. Like Syria, Eastern Ukraine, and other places like in Georgia.

They do stuff in the West that's only done to trigger endless REEEEing no matter what the results are to discredit Liberal Democracy as chaotic and inefficient (which is true, it's purposely made to be chaotic and inefficient to stop someone from taking power) .

When this spreads across the globe, for however long as they and Russian can avoid bursting its massive bubbles and have a strong and favorable image, people might start to think Liberal Democracy isn't worth it.



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Am I just imaging things or does his haircut have the form of a Communist cap?
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Feb 26, 2018 12:57 PM
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Intellectuals in the PRC are using people like Trump as an argument for why Liberalism and Democracy are bad and that it's a just fancy idea that the West needs to keep their politicians at bay and it's completely unnecessary because look at how great Xi is and how much better everything is getting which is done in China by the politburo who keeps him in check.

They also have the most cynical vision of the West you can possibly imagine, saying all the advancements of the 20th and 21st century in the West are merely power grabs designed to ensure American global authority.

They aren't the only ones, people think that all the stuff that Russia does in places like the West is to make people they like in power. It isn't. They keep their power to places that actually want them. Like Syria, Eastern Ukraine, and other places like in Georgia.

They do stuff in the West that's only done to trigger endless REEEEing no matter what the results are to discredit Liberal Democracy as chaotic and inefficient (which is true, it's purposely made to be chaotic and inefficient to stop someone from taking power) .

When this spreads across the globe, for however long as they and Russian can avoid bursting its massive bubbles and have a strong and favorable image, people might start to think Liberal Democracy isn't worth it.


>Liberal Democracy as chaotic and inefficient (which is true, it's purposely made to be chaotic and inefficient to stop someone from taking power)

are you saying there is a better way besides checks and balances or separation of powers? i like to hear this alternative
Feb 26, 2018 1:04 PM

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are you saying there is a better way besides checks and balances or separation of powers? i like to hear this alternative


That isn't what he said. He said China and Russia's goal is to put on a show of prosperity and stability to make themselves look better by comparison. Hey look at us! Democracy isn't even all that good. Look at how these retards keep attacking each other online while their shitty countries plummet!
They are right though, that is why we need The Military Industrial Complex with ruthless, greed, logic, and science to crush them. What do you even care if we give you food, water, some video games, and a place to sleep? Just stay out of our way. It hurts me physically to see our retard politicians sharing our power and tech freely with any and everybody.
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@isekai

Checks and balances and separation of powers are designed so that it's not possible for someone to take all the power. They do this by making it so that politicians spend all their time fighting each other instead of consolidating power.

It has worked, the closest the USA came to a Strong Man was FDR. And he tried to do everything in his power to get his way. He put in justices that would only vote for anything he wanted and stopped people who wanted him out like Father Coughlin (who created the term Social Justice) by using the most extreme interpretations of the law.

Despite this the USA still continued being the same.

Feb 26, 2018 1:11 PM
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@Soverign

you did not quote his quote that i quoted

>Liberal Democracy as chaotic and inefficient (which is true, it's purposely made to be chaotic and inefficient to stop someone from taking power)
>Liberal Democracy isn't worth it.

@Neane93

ye i know and you said this system is inefficient and chaotic right? so whats the better alternative then? dictatorship?
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@Soverign

you did not quote his quote that i quoted

>Liberal Democracy as chaotic and inefficient (which is true, it's purposely made to be chaotic and inefficient to stop someone from taking power)
>Liberal Democracy isn't worth it.

@Neane93

ye i know and you said this system is inefficient and chaotic right? so whats the better alternative then? dictatorship?

So I did. You know what I was responding to though. Democracy isn't anything other than normies voting on which normie to eat for lunch next.

I am glad Putin and Xi decided to get you out of the way and unshackle us. Thank you sooooooooo much. Trump is the best President we have ever had. Simply because he just stays the fuck out of the way. He doesn't even want to hear about it.
Feb 26, 2018 1:29 PM
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isekai said:
@Soverign

you did not quote his quote that i quoted

>Liberal Democracy as chaotic and inefficient (which is true, it's purposely made to be chaotic and inefficient to stop someone from taking power)
>Liberal Democracy isn't worth it.

@Neane93

ye i know and you said this system is inefficient and chaotic right? so whats the better alternative then? dictatorship?

So I did. You know what I was responding to though. Democracy isn't anything other than normies voting on which normie to eat for lunch next.

I am glad Putin and Xi decided to get you out of the way and unshackle us. Thank you sooooooooo much. Trump is the best President we have ever had. Simply because he just stays the fuck out of the way. He doesn't even want to hear about it.


so you think democracy is not worth it too? dictatorship is the better alternative? if so just why
Feb 26, 2018 1:32 PM

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Soverign said:

So I did. You know what I was responding to though. Democracy isn't anything other than normies voting on which normie to eat for lunch next.

I am glad Putin and Xi decided to get you out of the way and unshackle us. Thank you sooooooooo much. Trump is the best President we have ever had. Simply because he just stays the fuck out of the way. He doesn't even want to hear about it.


so you think democracy is not worth it too? dictatorship is the better alternative? if so just why


Obviously a population of highly educated and rational prostitutes, meth heads, crack heads, wife beaters are simply the best candidates for selecting other meth heads and crackheads (you get the point) to run their country. You already know a AI is the best choice to run things, you already accept that. Why not accept twenty or thirty close enough Technocracts or something until then?
Feb 26, 2018 1:35 PM
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isekai said:


so you think democracy is not worth it too? dictatorship is the better alternative? if so just why


Obviously a population of highly educated and rational prostitutes, meth heads, crack heads, wife beaters are simply the best candidates for selecting other meth heads and crackheads (you get the point) to run their country. You already know a AI is the best choice to run things, you already accept that. Why not accept twenty or thirty close enough Technocracts or something until then?


ye i know that one major problem with democracy is irrational voters
so you want some kind of merit base election i can somewhat understand that but then candidates like Trump who has no credentials being a politician should not run too
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I'd vote for Merkel over Trump. If I'm not mistaken, she's the longest tenured there since Hitler correct?
Nope, Helmut Kohl is (16 Years), followed by Konrad Adenauer (14 Years) and Angela Merkel (13 Years). Bismarck btw. had 19 Years:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-chancellors-of-Germany-2066807


@isekai: Our Government is prospected to have a Deficit of over 20 Billions Euros in 2022. I've only found one German Newssite write elaborately about it. In any Case, at latest, in a few Decades, we will be economically screwed.
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isekai said:
Soverign said:


Obviously a population of highly educated and rational prostitutes, meth heads, crack heads, wife beaters are simply the best candidates for selecting other meth heads and crackheads (you get the point) to run their country. You already know a AI is the best choice to run things, you already accept that. Why not accept twenty or thirty close enough Technocracts or something until then?


ye i know that one major problem with democracy is irrational voters
so you want some kind of merit base election i can somewhat understand that but then candidates like Trump who has no credentials being a politician should not run too


This is a major problem with democracy, is why the Democratic People's Republic of Korea fixed it by making sure that no outsiders can be elected.

There only the best suited individuals are available for election.
Only one candidate appears on the ballot.


The path of Songun Chongch'i is necessary to ensure the primacy of the armed forces as the vanguard of the People's Revolution. The tensions between the unrepresented masses and the elite plutocrats can only exist under Imperial Capitalism, whereas Juche Ideology has synthesized a perfect, organic unity of the Party, the Army and the People.
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I'd vote for Merkel over Trump. If I'm not mistaken, she's the longest tenured there since Hitler correct?
Nope, Helmut Kohl is (16 Years), followed by Konrad Adenauer (14 Years) and Angela Merkel (13 Years). Bismarck btw. had 19 Years:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-chancellors-of-Germany-2066807


@isekai: Our Government is prospected to have a Deficit of over 20 Billions Euros in 2022. I've only found one German Newssite write elaborately about it. In any Case, at latest, in a few Decades, we will be economically screwed.


I'm not trying to make light of the situation..but did you mean trillion? you said billions. 20 billion isn't very much in a nation-state scale. I understand the exchange difference between euro and usd, but even converted to my dollars its still only $25 billion.

The current US National debt is nearing $21 trillion (17 trillion euros) and we have over $1 trillion (over the past 13 years on average) per year deficits every single year.

Compare these:

United States:
https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Germany:
https://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/germany
https://www.ft.com/content/e4ec4bce-f099-11e7-b220-857e26d1aca4

The financial times article notes that for the first time in 2 decades Germany's debt clock is reversing (as of Jan. 2018), in other words the debt is being reduced/paid off. Overall, you're down 2 trillion euros (appx $2.5 trillion USD). I'm not saying its great financial/economic situation, you're still in the red instead of the black. But you're better than the US for sure (and unlike the US you're not bubbling up the housing market (again, guess we learned nothing from 2008) nor inflating the stock market to the point where it is destined to drastically tumble in adjusting itself to the mean/real line.

I attended an economic summit back in 2013, and a renowned economist had accurately predicted every stock market fluctuation since the early 90s - including the post-9/11 effect - with an incredible 98% accuracy. At the time he warned of a 2019 economic crisis caused by the US, and now that we're on its doorstep 5 years later, sources are indicating he was likely correct.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/us-headed-for-recession-in-2019-as-fed-raises-rates-economist-warns.html

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/900611/global-stock-market-overpriced-US-UK-Managing-Partners-Group


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Noboru said:
Nope, Helmut Kohl is (16 Years), followed by Konrad Adenauer (14 Years) and Angela Merkel (13 Years). Bismarck btw. had 19 Years:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-chancellors-of-Germany-2066807


@isekai: Our Government is prospected to have a Deficit of over 20 Billions Euros in 2022. I've only found one German Newssite write elaborately about it. In any Case, at latest, in a few Decades, we will be economically screwed.


I'm not trying to make light of the situation..but did you mean trillion? you said billions. 20 billion isn't very much in a nation-state scale. I understand the exchange difference between euro and usd, but even converted to my dollars its still only $25 billion.

The current US National debt is nearing $21 trillion (17 trillion euros) and we have over $1 trillion (over the past 13 years on average) per year deficits every single year.

Compare these:

United States:
https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Germany:
https://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/germany
https://www.ft.com/content/e4ec4bce-f099-11e7-b220-857e26d1aca4

The financial times article notes that for the first time in 2 decades Germany's debt clock is reversing (as of Jan. 2018), in other words the debt is being reduced/paid off. Overall, you're down 2 trillion euros (appx $2.5 trillion USD). I'm not saying its great financial/economic situation, you're still in the red instead of the black. But you're better than the US for sure (and unlike the US you're not bubbling up the housing market (again, guess we learned nothing from 2008) nor inflating the stock market to the point where it is destined to drastically tumble in adjusting itself to the mean/real line.

I attended an economic summit back in 2013, and a renowned economist had accurately predicted every stock market fluctuation since the early 90s - including the post-9/11 effect - with an incredible 98% accuracy. At the time he warned of a 2019 economic crisis caused by the US, and now that we're on its doorstep 5 years later, sources are indicating he was likely correct.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/us-headed-for-recession-in-2019-as-fed-raises-rates-economist-warns.html

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/900611/global-stock-market-overpriced-US-UK-Managing-Partners-Group


Its been coming for a long time. All Bush and Obama did was kick the can down the road a little. Maybe this time they will prosecute someone for the biggest theft in human history.
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China's doing a lot to discredit free market fundamentalism, but liberal democracy not so much. I'll wait to see if the current regime can quadruple GDP/capita while cleaning up the environment and becoming a place that people from all over the world would be interested in immigrating to.

The only thing Russia's discrediting is itself, unfortunately for Russians.
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Wow what a suprise (not)
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Oh commies
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Oh man, we do not need another dictator controlling a world superpower atm.

I've been here way too long...
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