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| Lots of wtf this episode...i love it! ringo x shouma FTW |
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| It was a twist, but I didn't go into the shocku state after that. I've learn by watching lots of anime that most main characters who are passive or don't do anything or appear normal have the most important roles in the end I kind of give up with the guessing and everything because I always get headache every time I do that, but I still think that at least one character will die I do wonder about the family though. Are all of them even related with each other? Are they even real? And I'm probably one of the very very very few people who ship Himari x Sanetoshi |
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Dalek-baka said: And can someone who actually speaks Japanese tell what was the title of this episode? Like does it literally translates to soulmate or can it be something else. It was "watashi no unmei no hito" - I think literally it means 'my fated one'. Also, wasn't it Shouma who said in the first episode (or second?) that he hates the word 'fate'? Sooo... maybe there's not THAT much significance behind Himari and Shouma being soulmates or 'fated ones'? (*just guessing* xD) |
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| why Kanba isn't the person of fate of Himari? But,eventually, I think Himari will go with Kanba,maybe after Himari realise Shoma is her person of fate.Their relatioship will trigger something,maybe tragedy event between Ringo and Himari. |
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| Wait, what?! Shouma?! But the Princess of the Crystal prefers Kanba! Oh, Kanba is a master performer, alright. He totally had me fooled last week. Now I really wonder what kind of jobs his parents have made him do. And what kind of secret can be more important to him than Himari's life. Others here have mentioned that he was thinking of the long-term consequences when he refused to reveal his parents' whereabouts to Tabuki, but if Tabuki hadn't changed his mind at the last minute, Himari would have died! Odd. Last week, I had questions about this 'punishment' the siblings spoke of and how it seemed Shouma was the one who was supposed to receive the punishments. And now, with the revelation that Shouma brought Himari out of the child broiler the same way Momoka brought Tabuki out (and she too, received some sort of punishment for changing fate), I'm wondering if Shouma has the same power as Momoka or maybe he's the Penguindrum? Gah, so many questions! |
| Woah. I'd been thinking one wasn't related - but wasn't expecting it to be Himari. I still wonder about why her pretending to be Kanba's sister is preventing him from going back to Masako though. And I wonder what Sanetoshi means about the twins doing what their parents couldn't. At least - I think I'm sort of starting to understand a bit of what's going on in this series xD. |
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| This was biggest shock that an anime ever give me...probably,seriously Shouma is Himari's fated partner.Not Kanba or even that Doctor Sanetoshi. |
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Erzaa said: MapleRose said: As for the revelation of Shouma being the fated one, yes I'm surprised, but I'm not raging over it. Because "fated one" doesn't mean Shouma and Himari will end up together. I don't think all the development with Ringo and Shouma will just be thrown out and replaced by "Shouma/Himari 'cause they're fated together. This is what I think as well. Honestly I wouldn't mind Shouma x Himari pairing, but I prefer Shouma x Ringo. And Kanba should end up with Masako. I don't like the Kanba x Himari pairing at all. It's exactly what I think. Ah no, I'm really mad at Shouma x Himari. Poor my Ringo ;_; |
| That rolling balls scene was magnificent and as far as the latest twist goes; This series probably is going to end up being my favourite anime of the thousand odd that I've see till date. Who'd have thought that Shouma = Momoka :O Also it would be great if Ringo reverts to her crazy stalker true self and goes at it with the passive agressive Himari for the love of Shouma now. |
spigotNov 19, 2011 8:20 AM
| That's a good twist. Dum dum dum the drama thickens.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| This show never ceases to amaze me!!! I was definitely not expecting Shoma to be Himari's fated person (but it makes since why Himari was feeling a little jealous of Ringo), and I was just starting to think Shouma and Ringo would make an okay couple. Still I'd rather Himari be with Kanba. Poor Kanba :( So is Shouma the reincarnation of Momoka?? and is that maybe why Ringo likes him, or did he just replace Momoka? |
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| I don't think Kanba was lying because his 'father' is probably not his real father but the red haired one we saw a few episodes back in Masako's train dream... Anyway, I was bored... really... and since I've heard the word troll for two things mainly in the last few things I watched it just kind of combined... It was just for fun but didn't turn out that great, view at your own discression. xD |
| Wtf episode. |
| I still don't think the boys are related either. Definitely didn't see that Shomoka swing coming. |
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| wait wow.... Shouma O.O |
| KANBAAAAA |
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| Just a reminded: 'fated' doesn't mean 'future husband'. they could be fated to die together, fated to kill each other, fated to eat delicious pie together, etc. |
| The twist was yummy. |
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| But... what about ringo?!! It is a twist, but at the expensive of a love triangle of sorts. Was that a good trade? |
| Never expected them to do a twist on Ringo x Shouma. It seems they're trying to give Ringo no rest whatsoever, having her run from fate to fate. |
Kinzo said: Just a reminded: 'fated' doesn't mean 'future husband'. they could be fated to die together, fated to kill each other, etc. You´re right. But the thing is Sanetoshi told Himari she was a bride of someone, and the symbolism of sharing an apple is "marriage". But honestly Shou seemed more into sibling love when he gave her the apple("come to my house and to my family, bla bla"), as for Himari im not sure of her feelings, since she showed some jealousy/sadness towards Ringo x Shou in the kitchen. I somehow believe Shou was Himari´s first love. Unrequited love? |
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puella-magi said: I don't think that Shouma is actually Himari's fated one, but then again I could just be going into denial because I'm a strong supporter of Himari/Kanba. Shouma and Himari just don't go together. Look at everything Ringo has done for Shouma. Look how much Kanba goes through to save Himari. There's no way that they're the pairing that's meant to be. whether Shou and Himare are fated pair does not matter. The series is not just about fighting and change the destiny? puella-magi said: I'm guessing since Momoka had the ability to switch around various time lines she inadvertently messed up this one and caused various events to go out of sync. Shouma is the fated one instead of Mario. Himari is the adopted one instead of Shouma (Kanba and Himari look far too similar to their parents for them not to be related, whereas Shouma is...). Very interesting observation. What a mess ... But I see inconsistencies. In episode 9, the boy pants blue shoes, and the girl with dress with her hair tied up. This is very different from the clothes seen in episode 19. The meeting place is also different. In episode 19 they're on the treadmill. The voice of the boy seems to be different, and his hair also seems to have a different hairstyle than that of the Shouma. I'm not following this topic, I do not know if this issue has already been mentioned here, if not, give a look at the social considerations in this blog. http://deremoe.com/?p=6358 |
PaninaManinaNov 20, 2011 5:06 AM
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| Does anyone knows what the child broiler means in a figurative way? |
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kiradesu said: Does anyone knows what the child broiler means in a figurative way? Loss of individual identity, what makes us unique and "special". The children here are drawn as pedestrians. All the same, formatted members of society. When the Tabuk lost his talent, he ceased to be special to be ordinary. |
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PaninaManina said: But I see inconsistencies. In episode 9, the boy pants blue shoes, and the girl with dress with her hair tied up. This is very different from the clothes seen in episode 19. Excellent observation. Precisely. the kid´s hair suits a lot more Kanba´s hairstyle...And ive never seen Himari with that hairstyle. I guess Ikuhara is going to troll us again, dunno how. But in this image of the opening, it his her groom, which by the design would exclude Mario right away, but not Kanba or Shou, since their hair is very similar.  *random time*Also in episode 9 Sanetoshi talks about the answer that Himari seeks is on the "Destination of Fate" place (child broiler?) and also there it is the answer of whose bride she is. and that´s when we got the first flashback of Himari and her fated one. The lyrics of the song playing in that scene "(...) now remember the spectacular past,(...), now remember the time when we loved each other (...). " Also another thing: Why would Shou give a fate apple to Himari and tie his destiny with her, if he clearly states on the first episode that he hates Destiny. / ends rant |
OrulyonNov 20, 2011 8:14 AM
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| Lol omg omg I certainly didn't expect Sho to be Himari's soulmate. Mindfuck right now. |
| I think if one thing is certain is that Himari is adopted. Even though she still looks like the mother, I still insist that she is the daughter of another marriage. This couple is definitely Kanba and Momoka. I can't see Shouma here, he has no swagger to dance in that way, and we all saw with our eyes the complicity between Kanba and the Princess of the Crystal. I think the confusion that is happening here is because Momoka change soo much the reality that end shuffling the relationships between the characters. Thus we can't be sure why the Princess eject Shouma "Strategy Survival" and take the Kanba lifetime. If Shouma is the Destined One, it makes sense, but only this fits, everything else does not. Thinking about how Yuri remembers the previous reality that has changed, I imagine that the person benefited keep their original memories. And when there is another change of reality, benefiting someone else, the memories of that person remains? They fit? In both cases they would not have inconsistencies with the new reality? This may explain the confusion, the reason we have seen a particular scene in episode # 9 and have seen the same scene differently in episode # 19. The reason why Masako know the destined one for Himari, even if we do not know exactly about who she speaks. Seeing as everyone in the story only wish the good and happiness, I even get scared at the thought that there are a criticism about it here. About how the miracle solution of Momoka, who wanted to make everyone happy to the point of sacrificing herself completely in the end it ended up causing even more confusion and suffering. Seriously ... if the "moral of the story" hang a little to that side I'll be seriously depressed. |
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| Hold up, what does the apple actually do? Is it something like the Fate Diary and has the ability to shift realities? Because then I'd see Shouma actually making Himari his sister, not as a choice of adoption by his parents or Kanba because from their perspective, Himari had always been family. Although this would explain why Kanba are always conflicted by his feelings toward Himari (he wouldn't be if he knew that they weren't related), this breaks out a bunch of other questions about the apple ... and certainly makes the Diary feel less powerful. |
| Wow. That's all I can say is wow. That ending. And why did Kanba lie about not knowing where his father is? I really can't wait for next week's episode. |
misspinkredroses said: Wow. That's all I can say is wow. That ending. And why did Kanba lie about not knowing where his father is? I really can't wait for next week's episode. Cuz he's gone over to the dark side and he doesn't care as much about Himari than he lets on. |
| @ thank you Raven_shinobi;3 PaninaManina said: This couple is definitely Kanba and Momoka. I can't see Shouma here, he has no swagger to dance in that way, and we all saw with our eyes the complicity between Kanba and the Princess of the Crystal. no its not. It might be Kanba or Shouma but definitely not the princess of Crystal, because if u watch the OP, she clearly does not wear the penguin hat on this dance scene, which makes her Himari and not the princess. also the apple of destiny is right beside them. so although i still somehow believe in Kanba x himari, that pic to me it has much more chances of being Shouma with Himari, in their wedding dance otherwise, why make the guy a shadow? We all knew Kanba had feelings for Himari since the anime started, so Ikuhara could have perfectly showed Kanba dancing with Himari, but he made it purposely in shadow because it was to troll us. |
OrulyonNov 20, 2011 3:57 PM
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| I feel like this is really setting it up for Shouma to be Momoka's reincarnation. I might be different than a lot of other people in here but i couldn't really care less about kanba and himari. this WHOLE damn time all ive cared about was Shouma and Ringo. If they don't end up together i will be seriously pissed. I think that Shouma was the adopted one. I'm actually pretty sure on that point and Himari and Kanba are actual siblings. The line of shitty ass parenting continues with the reactions that their parents had this episode. "They have important work to do" bullshit. They couldnt care less about their damn family and its obvious that they are using Kanba too. I have no idea where this is going and I want Princess Himari to start taking more of a role. I like the theory that Momoka fucked this one up. She died on the day of the attack to change what was going to happen to the kids' fates but maybe her dying wasn't enough of a price to pay for that change? I think the diary is still going to have some significance. Sanetoshi wants it to be destroyed but Ikuhara spent the time on having Masako consider and then "not?" destroy it. The wait this week is going to be brutal. |
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| well this episode is great the story clearly come to circle... I hope we can get a look on himari 'real past' & including shouma next ep bcoz he has the most unclear ones...could he be the real penguindrum!! spoiler spoiler spoiler |
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| Not...Blood....Related... ? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Now it's not wincest anymore. :( Also, poor Kanba. He seems to me the one who is most caring and devoted to saving Himari, doing just about anything even risking getting hurt to save her life, but along comes this twist where Himari's fated one is that other brother Shouma instead. Well, at least it's not gonna tend towards Himari x Doctor. Now if that had happened I'd really feel trolled from such NTR |
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PaninaManina said: But I see inconsistencies. The voice of the boy seems to be different, and his hair also seems to have a different hairstyle than that of the Shouma. Lol, now that i take a good look at it.. That boy silhouette's hairstyle sorta reminds me of Yamashita's. o_o Look: |
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aelove said: I feel like this is really setting it up for Shouma to be Momoka's reincarnation. No....  LuYurippe said: Lol, now that i take a good look at it.. That boy silhouette's hairstyle sorta reminds me of Yamashita's. o_o Look: Oh my goddess....  SPOILERS ABOVE!! ABANDON THREAD! ...to be continued, next week. |
PaninaManinaNov 21, 2011 8:43 AM
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mikado34 said: Worry not, my dear, for is not this anime about defying fate?More drama is added to this complicated story of love. So Shouma is Himari's soul mate? Wasn't expecting this because I really like the KanbaxHimari pairing. |
| The more I watch this series, the more I hate the word "fate" .. |
LuYurippe said: PaninaManina said: But I see inconsistencies. The voice of the boy seems to be different, and his hair also seems to have a different hairstyle than that of the Shouma. Lol, now that i take a good look at it.. That boy silhouette's hairstyle sorta reminds me of Yamashita's. o_o Look: ... Holy snap... It really does... Now that would really blow my mind, if that's what happened. |
| Guys...do you still have the same hairstyle as when you were 8? Sometimes, maybe in animeland, but not necessarily. You're all reading too much into the images. Now the color, on the other hand..... |
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