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Feb 4, 2010 1:53 PM

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Holy shit, nooooo no no no no no. Ace can't die.

Ahh, and the look of Luffy's face... that really was just... the true sense of shock and speechlessness... which will just follow with who knows... either way, I must have the next chapter ;____;
Feb 4, 2010 2:39 PM

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Well... Fire vs Lava is not a good match up at all. Lava would win. This may have all been for naught.
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Feb 4, 2010 2:43 PM

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HOLY SHIT!!!! What an epic ending... Can't wait to see what happens...

Oh man, I was totally waiting for Hancock to step in front of Akainu's attack, but oh well :)
Feb 4, 2010 3:21 PM

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I saw Whitebeard's sacrifice coming, but if Ace also sacrifices himself, this series would be immediate in my top list.
Feb 4, 2010 3:57 PM

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If Ace dies, and I think that is a given, Luffy has to change. Luffy has been going through life as if everything is a fun adventure, and he needs a really big shock to make him realize that he has to take a real stand if he wants to make a difference in the world. It's time for Luffy to grow up, and this may be the driver that turns him from being just another kid with big ideas into a true power.

My bet is that Oda will take that approach. It will be interesting to see if he does.
Feb 4, 2010 3:58 PM

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Great chapter!! But I don't think Ace is going to die, he's probably going to be saved by Ivankov.
Feb 4, 2010 6:08 PM

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F***, WHY!? We went through hell and back and now this happened. I really want Ace to live but thats a slim chance the way things are going.
Feb 4, 2010 6:27 PM

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hJ said:
Akainu is a logia, now that is crazy shit. His dialogues were quite right if you talk from WG's perspective but still what part of 'Grabbing Ace and running away immediately' is a cowardice

Ace and Luffy are in deep shit right now. WB can save them from a moment but he ain't in no position to take on even 2 admirals right now, and Marco and the rest of commanders are in quite bad shape

The need of an outward interference has become essential now


Do you mean shanks or dragon, luffy is in no shape to fight so maybe it is a possibility.



Feb 4, 2010 6:53 PM

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This should not happen! This will not happen! I do not want Ace to die! D8 I shall have hope that because he didn't smile but you never know about the next chapter! and I've never seen Luffy do that face T.T

This chapter was just Horribly amazing with epicness and terrifying sadness all wrapped up in one T.T it's just...so sad T.T i hope ace lives
Feb 4, 2010 6:56 PM

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dbaranyi said:
If Ace dies, and I think that is a given, Luffy has to change. Luffy has been going through life as if everything is a fun adventure, and he needs a really big shock to make him realize that he has to take a real stand if he wants to make a difference in the world. It's time for Luffy to grow up, and this may be the driver that turns him from being just another kid with big ideas into a true power.

My bet is that Oda will take that approach. It will be interesting to see if he does.


Well said.



Feb 4, 2010 6:57 PM

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I'm confused. What was the thing that sizzled out at the last page?



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Feb 4, 2010 7:02 PM

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dbaranyi said:
If Ace dies, and I think that is a given, Luffy has to change. Luffy has been going through life as if everything is a fun adventure, and he needs a really big shock to make him realize that he has to take a real stand if he wants to make a difference in the world. It's time for Luffy to grow up, and this may be the driver that turns him from being just another kid with big ideas into a true power.

My bet is that Oda will take that approach. It will be interesting to see if he does.


You are correct here. I love One Piece for what it has been in the past, but it's clear that Oda is making strides to deal with increasingly more mature content. The arc at Sabaody Archipelago is the best example of this i.e. slavery is not something easily addressed and I think Oda did a wonderful job touching on that issue.

Luffy's simplistic outlook on life and "love" for adventure is a timeless One Piece theme, but sometimes people change, and go through transitions in life. That doesn't necessarily mean that they will end up becoming different people entirely, but people tend to grow and their beliefs and values slowly become shifted due to events in their lives. Ace's death would be one of these such events.

Will Oda use this opportunity to advance Luffy's character even more? That's something I don't think anyone can know as of yet. But when it's all said and done I'm fine with either outcome. Ace surviving and the journey continues, or Ace dies and the journey continues. The story will go on, just in entirely different directions. We just have to sit back and see which path Oda will choose to write.
Feb 4, 2010 7:03 PM

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Vizard said:
I'm confused. What was the thing that sizzled out at the last page?


You dont know the vivre card, thats the paper ace gave to luffy back in the arabasta arc, its directs and shows the lifeforce of the owner of that card.

So if it vanishes it means the owner of that card ace has all but been extinguished from the world.



Feb 4, 2010 8:17 PM
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I should have waited till next week to read 2 chapters at once like I usually do. Argh.
Feb 4, 2010 9:43 PM

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wtf! O_O, Ace is going to get taken out just like that ><? All that effort and because he couldn't rein in his temper this happens D: Luffy is going to go insane now @_@ and kick that admirals ass
Feb 4, 2010 11:27 PM
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No! Don't die, Ace!!






Feb 4, 2010 11:47 PM
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i kind 'of expected this to happen, i mean Ace has nothing left to live for. his only goal in life was whitebeard becoming king of pirates, and now that whitebeard is dead... i hope he doesnt die though O_O ... eichiro oda is epic. lol
Feb 5, 2010 12:25 AM

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how Ace can survive ?


he made a HOLE in his stomach, he has not Internal organs no more..
ace is dead for sure damn
Feb 5, 2010 5:39 AM

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WTF JUST HAPPENED !?
Feb 5, 2010 6:51 AM

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smokes said:
how Ace can survive ?


he made a HOLE in his stomach, he has not Internal organs no more..
ace is dead for sure damn


Maybe Boa can turn him into stone untill they find some kind of way around it :S
Feb 5, 2010 7:34 AM
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Don't die Ace!!!
Feb 5, 2010 9:07 AM

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smokes said:
how Ace can survive ?


he made a HOLE in his stomach, he has not Internal organs no more..
ace is dead for sure damn


But he's a logia. earlier in the chapter he got chopped in half by a sword and was fine. I know he was hit by another logia that has an advantage over him but I think he will be fine. He'll be badly damaged, but not dead.

The hole was probably caused by Ace still being partially fire. Akainu punched Ace so the burn will damage his insides but the rest of his body will reform after Akainu's fist leaves.

Also his vivre card didn't totally vanish.
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Hobbzz said:
smokes said:
how Ace can survive ?


he made a HOLE in his stomach, he has not Internal organs no more..
ace is dead for sure damn


But he's a logia. earlier in the chapter he got chopped in half by a sword and was fine. I know he was hit by another logia that has an advantage over him but I think he will be fine. He'll be badly damaged, but not dead.

The hole was probably caused by Ace still being partially fire. Akainu punched Ace so the burn will damage his insides but the rest of his body will reform after Akainu's fist leaves.

Also his vivre card didn't totally vanish.


Yeah like you say Ace is a logia but we could see (don't remember the page) that Ace did get hurt on the hand when being hit by Akainu.
I don't think Ace was actually partially fire but i agree with you in the fact that he might be hurt badly but no to death state.
Feb 5, 2010 11:26 AM

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I had the same look on my face as Luffy. I was totally shocked and I'm longing for the next chapter now.
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Feb 5, 2010 8:37 PM
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SUCH A SHOCKING CHAPTERRR!!!
i love luffy but he really needs this kind of tragedy to DO SOMETHING
he lost his nakama to kuma, lost to magellan, and constantly needed okama queen's injections
i hope something epic w/ him happens!
I WANT NEW CH NOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!
Feb 5, 2010 9:46 PM

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Bloody hell! After all that Ace is not allowed to die!! What an intense chapter!

Feb 6, 2010 7:23 AM
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I really do hope that Ace is dead. Not because I don't like him, he's actually one of my favorite characters, but it would make it all so much more realistic. And we would finally get to feel that tension when we wonder if someone is going to die. After all, one piece haven't had that much tension, ever.
Feb 6, 2010 1:17 PM

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does any one notice that Aikanu said they were cowards for running away after rescuing Ace and then he went and tried to attack the weakened Luffy -.- That just made Aikanu a coward -.-

i think the pirates who were at Shabondy will come help them out...or the pirates from all over the world will come get a piece of action :D
Feb 6, 2010 2:22 PM

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anala said:

i think the pirates who were at Shabondy will come help them out...


lmao
Feb 6, 2010 9:56 PM

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i dun want ace to die!!
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Feb 7, 2010 1:43 AM

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Ikarov may be able to revive him or something like that o: .

Luffy couldn't possibly let Ace die like that!
Feb 7, 2010 7:20 AM

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I always got the feeling Ace was going to die one way or another.
Feb 7, 2010 10:13 AM

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What would be interesting is, Ace to be the first character to be killed present time in the series. We were introduced with the king dying; his son to be the first to die in present time would be ironic.
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Feb 8, 2010 1:46 AM

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Ace <3 He was really nice in this chapter...I love his face when this bastard was talking about Whitebeard. Unless Luffy or someone helps him he will die with his father for sure T.T By the way I think Luffy will use Haki again.
Feb 8, 2010 10:10 AM

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I hope Luffy uses his haki to kick Akainu's ass.
Feb 8, 2010 1:00 PM

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Some sacrifices must be made to make this manga even better!! Ace must die!!(although i'll be sorry)
Feb 8, 2010 11:18 PM
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i kno ppl are saying that the series will still progress even if ace dies, but will this manga still have its old potential value? i mean come on, ace dies, and that's beyond bloody awful! no doubt people will not see one piece as that great of a manga anymore and some ppl might just drop it as a whole!

(damn i hope ace doesnt die)
Feb 9, 2010 12:31 AM

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^people dropping manga cause a character died ? they must be retarded..


look at naruto.. how many awesome good guys died and nobody dropped it lol..
(tho yeah.. i dont like when they die D:

but still... there is no chance for him to live..
meh dunno..
Feb 9, 2010 1:49 AM

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smokes said:
^people dropping manga cause a character died ? they must be retarded..


For once, I agree with you :P
Feb 9, 2010 11:47 AM

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Let's hope Luffy grows a beard now.
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Feb 9, 2010 4:32 PM
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oi oi, what was that, JUST WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT




HE's DEAD for sure damn o_O

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haha, let's quit the dramatizing. xD new level
Feb 9, 2010 8:59 PM
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NNOO, let Luffy Diiiee^^
Apr 28, 2010 3:29 PM

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Well... Fire vs Lava is not a good match up at all. Lava would win. This may have all been for naught.


Hmm... i can accept that but i can't accept Akainu being a logia. It doesn't make sense. They just made him that way because his supposed to be an admiral.
Lava is kind of solid and thick, if he can be a logia then why isn't Magellan who is poison. Hell, poison is more liquid than lava.
Akainu should have been a little something like Magellan, can't touch him because you get burned with all the lava around him but still have a solid body.

As about Ace. Yeah he seems dead to me. Kind of ironic that the guy who's fire it self got burned to death.
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I dunno if I feel trolled or not... anyway, this already is the best arc of One Piece ever.
Sep 29, 2010 11:59 PM

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO. ;-;
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Ace Nooo :( I knew it was coming but it was still sad :(.
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Jun 21, 2015 6:33 PM

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I can't take this. It's too much for me! Q_Q
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I hate Akainu!
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I saw the title of the next chapter, but I couldn't believe it. I thought, "no, no way, after all this Ace can't possibly die. If he dies, then I... fuck! Nopenopenope"
And... he died. Or is about to. But that last scene was enough to make me stop and stare blankly as tears welled up in my eyes. Basically all the hope of Whitebeard's crew, all of Luffy's determination, you could FEEL them. It's like they could move mountains (and Whitebeard might as well). But he still dies. SO HOW THE HELL DOES THAT NOT BREAK YOUR HEART HUH
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I'm sorry. It's just... The only other manga that made me cry was Berserk, and I think that says a lot. The emotional rollercoaster that Oda-sensei puts you through is just incredible.
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