Mass Downvotes?

Jan 1, 8:33 PM

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Otakupervert890

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Completely normal happen every time after a show finish his broadcast.

Jan 1, 8:35 PM

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JayTCU

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My honest opinion, from my perspective at least, when i decided to pick up the manga where it left off in season 2 i understood the anime was inferior in almost every aspect. I had to literally restart from the beginning it was actually leagues better. However in all honesty i think this is generally common more so for shounen.
Some people will blindly give 10s and some blindly give 1s. The 10s usually outway the ones. When people are ready to give a genuine assesment of the show it tends to fall somewhere slightly lower than it was previously rated.

Jan 1, 8:42 PM

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Daniel_funes99

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idk what you are talking about, if you check the breakdown of the scores it seems completely normal. When an anime finishes airing its normal to rise a lil bit and then take a dip. Look at bleach, it was at like 8.96, and last time i check it was like an 8.83.

Jan 1, 8:45 PM

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JayTCU said:
My honest opinion, from my perspective at least, when i decided to pick up the manga where it left off in season 2 i understood the anime was inferior in almost every aspect. I had to literally restart from the beginning it was actually leagues better. However in all honesty i think this is generally common more so for shounen.
Some people will blindly give 10s and some blindly give 1s. The 10s usually outway the ones. When people are ready to give a genuine assesment of the show it tends to fall somewhere slightly lower than it was previously rated.

If you don't mind me asking exactly how is the anime inferior in every way?
imo Science Saru gave the anime a better adaptation than any studio could. I've been a fan of this manga for years, and in terms of an adaptation this is perfect. what more could you ask for?

Jan 1, 8:47 PM

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Rango17

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Tbh, this show should be rated lower than 8.5 due to it having a higher score than some animes that I think are better than Dandadan yet has lower score. 86 season 1—which has lower score—has deeper meanings, better music score (Sawano Hiroyuki is the composer for 86 who did AOT ost) and even better characters. The plot is interconnected and unpredictable a lot of times.

Dandadan is good but nothing special so far. It just gives you a lot of cheap shock values in my opinion. It's good but shouldn't be higher than 8. I actually felt underwhelmed after finishing Dandadan because after I saw the rating (8.71 at that time), I set my expectation so high since it has higher rating than Death Note, all seasons of Haikyuu except S3 and even AOT S1-S3 part 1.

Jan 1, 8:58 PM

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Probably people actually rating the show once it's complete. I feel like people who rate the show while it's still airing tend to give it a very generous score. Once the season actually ends then you get the more accurate ratings for it

Jan 1, 9:25 PM

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Blindsilo94

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Rango17 said:
Tbh, this show should be rated lower than 8.5 due to it having a higher score than some animes that I think are better than Dandadan yet has lower score. 86 season 1—which has lower score—has deeper meanings, better music score (Sawano Hiroyuki is the composer for 86 who did AOT ost) and even better characters. The plot is interconnected and unpredictable a lot of times.

Dandadan is good but nothing special so far. It just gives you a lot of cheap shock values in my opinion. It's good but shouldn't be higher than 8. I actually felt underwhelmed after finishing Dandadan because after I saw the rating (8.71 at that time), I set my expectation so high since it has higher rating than Death Note, all seasons of Haikyuu except S3 and even AOT S1-S3 part 1.

86 season 1 didn't have 'good' characters most of them were barely developed as most of them were killed. season 2 was when the characters became good atleast to me

Jan 1, 9:35 PM

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Reply to Blindsilo94

Rango17 said:
Tbh, this show should be rated lower than 8.5 due to it having a higher score than some animes that I think are better than Dandadan yet has lower score. 86 season 1—which has lower score—has deeper meanings, better music score (Sawano Hiroyuki is the composer for 86 who did AOT ost) and even better characters. The plot is interconnected and unpredictable a lot of times.

Dandadan is good but nothing special so far. It just gives you a lot of cheap shock values in my opinion. It's good but shouldn't be higher than 8. I actually felt underwhelmed after finishing Dandadan because after I saw the rating (8.71 at that time), I set my expectation so high since it has higher rating than Death Note, all seasons of Haikyuu except S3 and even AOT S1-S3 part 1.

86 season 1 didn't have 'good' characters most of them were barely developed as most of them were killed. season 2 was when the characters became good atleast to me

@Blindsilo94 season 1 only character you are suppose to care is Lena since you see everything from her POV it's change in the part 2 to actually know who will be the final team which by the time you reach episode 23 you actually know everyone.

Jan 1, 10:00 PM

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riqmoran

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I had it at an 8 or as high as 9 as it was airing then I settled on 7 once it was done. Idk how many others like to adjust the rating as they watch.

It's not as overglazed as many of the things in the top 100, but literally everything has its score inflated. To what extent just depends on how far beyond its core audience it reaches. If the viewers are mostly the dedicated audience, you will see braindead 9s and 10s that are not offset by any serious scores. If it breaks into the mainstream, then it gets marginally weighed down by the scores of people it didnt resonate with.
If something has a second or final season, or a special, usually that will score significantly higher as only dedicated fans will give it a rating.

Jan 1, 10:16 PM

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rohan121

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I gave it a 8. Not really what I call a downvote, but when the score is so high it can be viewed that way. I think the later half was somewhat weaker than the early episodes.

Jan 1, 10:16 PM

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N0T3LI_ said:

JayTCU said:
My honest opinion, from my perspective at least, when i decided to pick up the manga where it left off in season 2 i understood the anime was inferior in almost every aspect. I had to literally restart from the beginning it was actually leagues better. However in all honesty i think this is generally common more so for shounen.
Some people will blindly give 10s and some blindly give 1s. The 10s usually outway the ones. When people are ready to give a genuine assesment of the show it tends to fall somewhere slightly lower than it was previously rated.

If you don't mind me asking exactly how is the anime inferior in every way?
imo Science Saru gave the anime a better adaptation than any studio could. I've been a fan of this manga for years, and in terms of an adaptation this is perfect. what more could you ask for?

My only two oppositions were the pacing and soundtrack. I personally think after reading the manga that it handled "build and drop" of tension much better. The compared arcs boiling points felt more impactful in the manga but that's just me. I will say though the voice acting handled in transitioning is reason alone to watch the anime as well.

Jan 1, 10:34 PM

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N0T3LI_

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JayTCU said:

N0T3LI_ said:

If you don't mind me asking exactly how is the anime inferior in every way?
imo Science Saru gave the anime a better adaptation than any studio could. I've been a fan of this manga for years, and in terms of an adaptation this is perfect. what more could you ask for?

My only two oppositions were the pacing and soundtrack. I personally think after reading the manga that it handled "build and drop" of tension much better. The compared arcs boiling points felt more impactful in the manga but that's just me. I will say though the voice acting handled in transitioning is reason alone to watch the anime as well.

I can see where your coming from, but for me pacing was probably the biggest strongsuit. (Along with the visuals.) it knew how to take its time in the thicker sections to get us acquainted, but it's also not afraid to barrel through the fight sequences. I think it captured this aspect very well.

also, soundtrack? DDD had my favorite OP and ED of the year fr.

Jan 1, 10:44 PM

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deg

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its normal pattern and trend here on mal take it from someone thats been here for years already

Jan 1, 10:53 PM

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Rango17

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Reply to Blindsilo94

Rango17 said:
Tbh, this show should be rated lower than 8.5 due to it having a higher score than some animes that I think are better than Dandadan yet has lower score. 86 season 1—which has lower score—has deeper meanings, better music score (Sawano Hiroyuki is the composer for 86 who did AOT ost) and even better characters. The plot is interconnected and unpredictable a lot of times.

Dandadan is good but nothing special so far. It just gives you a lot of cheap shock values in my opinion. It's good but shouldn't be higher than 8. I actually felt underwhelmed after finishing Dandadan because after I saw the rating (8.71 at that time), I set my expectation so high since it has higher rating than Death Note, all seasons of Haikyuu except S3 and even AOT S1-S3 part 1.

86 season 1 didn't have 'good' characters most of them were barely developed as most of them were killed. season 2 was when the characters became good atleast to me

@Blindsilo94

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86 season 1 didn't have 'good' characters most of them were barely developed as most of them were killed.

Who said I was talking about the dead characters? I was talking about the main ones, specifically Lena and Shinei. Needless to say, to me, the side characters who lived till season 2–Anju, Theo, Raiden, Kurena– are better written than Okarun and Momo.They hit closer to home than Dandadan characters and deal with real life problems. Their different views provide more perspective in this world where racism is still going on in some places. However, even if we include the dead characters in 86 who were killed in the first 5 episodes (especially Kaie), they serve a more important and narrative plot points in the context of the story. Their dialogue carries more weight compared to Momo and Okarun, who were mostly speaking about 'finding my balls' or 'thanks for being hard', serving no deeper meaning and just cheap joke. Even Henrietta (Lena's friend), plays a more meaningful role in the 86 story than the main characters in Dandadan. She reflects how a normal person would act, not being to do anything and was just worried for her friend. Let's just stop here. I can write a whole essay if I keep at it.

I don't hate Dandadan btw, I actually like it, I just think it shouldn't be this high rated. MAL ratings are becoming unreliable day by day.

Rango17Jan 1, 10:57 PM

Jan 1, 11:25 PM

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nishant0

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I think it will settle down to 8.5 or something which is still very high for these 12 episodes of dandadan.

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Jan 1, 11:32 PM

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Arka_Chakrabarty

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This is normal for every show. Bleach TYBW cour 3 dropped from 8.99 to 8.83. It happens everytime a show finishes.

Jan 2, 12:10 AM

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SanessyAdversary

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Mhm, like literal everyone here. It's very normal for every kind of show among the years. For example, all the top ranked shows slowly but surely drop in average scores and yes there are some exceptions that the average score for some shows rose because they aged pretty well but even then, something like Dandadan being scored mainly above 8.5 is still insanely high which is very outstanding imo because I thought a lot of people would find this anime not their cup of tea.

Well, that's about it for my opinion on mass downvotes topic. Just remember that there are people who mass downvotes and mass upvotes so ig balance is a literal game lord here.

Jan 2, 12:14 AM

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Gear707

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Nothing usual, the rating of a show tends to stabilize after finishing airing, regardless of whether it goes up or down. Besides, ~8.6 is already very high for a one-cour show like this anyway, so I don’t think there’s anything to be upset about.

Gear707Jan 2, 1:09 AM

Jan 2, 1:08 AM

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mufflertape said:
So I have been watching the scores and they ticked up right after episode 12 dropped, and then it's been on a steady decline and has lost over a tenth of a point. What gives? I heard some other fandoms have a hate boner for DDD due to some content in the show, but I really hope there are better actors on this website. 😔

Some people withold their ratings until after they finish the show

So really, it's more so that some critical viewers don't do preliminary ratings (giving a rating before watching the entire thing) and combined that they're usually more conservative with their ratings, the overall ratings go down but that's not really a bad thing. Just as some people give a show a 1 or a 10 based solely on whether or they like it or not, some people might give a 6 or a 7 if they liked the visuals but the story/characters didn't really resonate with them, among other things

People's opinions aren't as easily quantifiable into numbers

Jan 2, 3:43 AM

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Deane

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To be fair, the season finale was incredibly abrupt and felt unsatisfying. I’m really excited for season 2 and I’m probably gonna read the manga after it airs, but couldn’t they give one more episode to this season? It just ended in the middle of a story arc, out of nowhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if it lowered some people’s scores

Jan 2, 5:59 AM

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SoloNecromancer

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it's because of poor ending
it could have been great if they've adapted tht big fight.

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Jan 2, 6:27 AM

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Zarutaku

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>my favorite anime isn't raising to the top rank
>people are having hate boners

cringe fanboy logic

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Jan 2, 7:29 AM

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rwhip81

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I’m actually surprised an anime that was super hyped doesn’t have more scores of 1, that’s something that usually happens with big shows. Something like the most recent Bleach, for example, has almost 2,000 of them. Which is really silly, neither show deserves a score of one. But MAL also purges some of them I think.

Either way, kinda what others have said, as people finish shows the score will fluctuate and often settle. Sometimes it’ll go up if the finale is amazing as well

Jan 2, 9:21 AM

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riqmoran

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Here's another thing you need to understand if youre complaining about review bombing: if the 10s outnumber the 1s by a factor of just tenfold, then they average over 9.

This is seldom the case. If you look at almost anything on this site, the 10s outnumber the 1s by nearly 100 fold. The problem is precisely the opposite, the glaze skews scores upward far more than anyone could ever weigh them down.

Jan 2, 9:26 AM

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JoeChip

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Oh look yet another braindead rating thread , somehow these make me miss the Ishizoku Reviewers event...

Jan 2, 9:27 AM

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JoeChip

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Reply to ReXiRa

mufflertape said:
So I have been watching the scores and they ticked up right after episode 12 dropped, and then it's been on a steady decline and has lost over a tenth of a point. What gives? I heard some other fandoms have a hate boner for DDD due to some content in the show, but I really hope there are better actors on this website. 😔

Some people withold their ratings until after they finish the show

So really, it's more so that some critical viewers don't do preliminary ratings (giving a rating before watching the entire thing) and combined that they're usually more conservative with their ratings, the overall ratings go down but that's not really a bad thing. Just as some people give a show a 1 or a 10 based solely on whether or they like it or not, some people might give a 6 or a 7 if they liked the visuals but the story/characters didn't really resonate with them, among other things

People's opinions aren't as easily quantifiable into numbers

@ReXiRa

"Some people withold their ratings until after they finish the show"

Isn't that the normal and logical thing to do in the first place and I guess more people would do it than just some.

Jan 2, 1:10 PM

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SNgKrv

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dunno I felt like after 8 ep it started to fall off a lik bit. so I took 1score point down.

Jan 2, 1:57 PM

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Dan_ALves

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Popular shows always get the downvote treatment. Some people really care about their favorite shows having a higher score and can't get out of that mindset. It's sad.

Jan 2, 2:54 PM

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T3NLTD

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Seems pretty normal to me. Plenty of people (myself included) don't score things until they finish them.

Jan 2, 3:02 PM

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Todday

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If you add up all the ratings of 1-5 it doesn’t even equal the people who rated it 6.

Defiantly not getting mass downvoted.

If you want to see what mass downvoting looks like, look at anime like FMAB or a lesser extent Frieren

Jan 2, 8:16 PM

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J2C

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Even though a decline is normal after a season finish I think it’s been faster that expected because of the way they closed the season, it’s the same than with jigokuraku

Jan 2, 9:03 PM

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I think its cuz like the pedo nature of a lot of it lol. I say this as a fan, it would be much better without that stupid shit

Jan 2, 9:15 PM

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Some people do not finish rating until a series is finished is my guess. I think 8.65 is really great. Higher scores have to plateau somewhere and we cannot expect every anime to break 9.00. I do think due to the nature of the series being an action-packed comedy supernatural series, it just does not generally register as highly among audiences as something like Sousou No Frieren does.

Not that this series does not have emotional moments, but I think most people have a bias for rating dramas higher due to emotional investment. In a way, a good comedy can make you laugh, whereas a good drama can literally change your life.

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Jan 3, 1:19 PM

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