| They are mostly keyboard warriors yelling at clouds. It's better to just ignore, even if they can be really annoying, toxic even, at times. Like you said, if someone doesn't watch something in a certain way, then why ridicule or act like a jerk towards people who actually do? It's rather something upsetting than hilarious or even slightly amusing, because you can easily imagine the very same people in other situations, acting in a similar manner (i.e. seething over someone picking up a different ice cream flavor that the seething person don't like themself). Or wait, they are mostly that bold on the Internet and only there, so ye, I take back my words. Their behavior ain't that much upsetting. ;p |
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| But dub haters cant stand themselves too. Otherwise they woudnt be pissed over the purity of another culture which they see as escape from their own bad life. |
| "Am I the only one who can't stand dub haters?" You are not the only one, buddy. |
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| Dubs watchers can't afford enjoying anime unless it's tampered down to accomodate their taste. With this in mind, it is clear why dubs watchers can't tolerate a different opinion and why such thread like are only created by dub watchers. |
| "Subs are no better too as I can't stand high pitched anime girl voices sometimes" What makes you think in dub the same girl's voice won't be as high-pitched? If its the case Id rather listen to it in the original voice and how it is meant to be - aka subs, rather than cringy english or whatever else language that its dubbed in. |
| Meanwhile, in another forum on the internet, someone else is ranting about why people even support dubs in the first place, lol |
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| Dubs are (as far as I have seen) universally shit and lower the scores of any shows that have them (this is why Frieren doesn't have a perfect 10/10), and I (and many others, I suspect) have had the displeasure of being forcefully exposed to them against my will, so it's only natural people are unhesitant to point that out. What I don't get is why we apparently need dub hater haters. Surely it would make more sense to attack the criticisms levied against dubs than the act of criticizing them itself. I think there's been too much "Let people enjoy things", now what we need is "Let people not enjoy (and accordingly criticize) things". Mattenan said: If you don't like dubs, why do you hate and trash on them. This was such a good question you had to sign it off with a period instead of a question mark. |
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| Yeah, I never understood the militantly hardcore sub only people. If that's how they want to watch everything and they'd prefer a closer experience to what the staff intended, that's fine, but they usually REEEE if they find anyone watching dubs. Foreign dubs can be a decent experience too, and dubs have improved a lot over the years. I watch most anime subbed, but I usually prefer comedy anime dubbed in english. It also allows me to multitask more because a lot of animation is so limited that if you see one frame, you've seen most of the scene from a visual standpoint and only need the dialogue. Granted, some dubs are really awful, and certain shows are best experienced subbed. The real problem is how localization is handled. Some of them are faithful to the original dialogue, but it's really hard to accept the American pop culture references in something as Japanese as Shin-chan. I even kind of like the Shin-chan dub voices otherwise, though. Works better with things that feel more westerny, like Cowboy Bebop or Monster. |
| LMAO Is it that bad? This silly thing really evokes the worst feelings within you? Why do you care? Why do you argue? It's pointless, just enjoy it the way you want & let others enjoy it the way they want. It's not hard, it's easy, breath in, breath out, you can do it. |
| I don't know who quotes me and then deletes the comment, but know that you make my day. STEAM's GOTY 2024 the Ghost of Tsushima If digital buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing |
Reply to Richard_drizzle
It only makes sense to watch anime in your native language.
| @Richard_drizzle I'm honestly not sure if even one single anime on list has been dubbed into my native language. Perhaps that's for the best. |
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| english might just be the only somewhat bearable dub language. and either way compared to japanese, every dub is shit. people who slap the "want to inculcate my own culture while watching anime" tag are just forcing themselves to look happy. |
"Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest?"~ Suguru Geto  |
| I almost never care about dubs, but it's totally legit to hate them. |
| Dub-haters have no life. Why else would you care about that. Also I like some dubs more, when the female characters aren't so high-pitched. |
Reply to LittleOwlbear
Dub-haters have no life. Why else would you care about that.
Also I like some dubs more, when the female characters aren't so high-pitched.
Also I like some dubs more, when the female characters aren't so high-pitched.
| @LittleOwlbear "You have opinion on thing? Clearly, you have no life. Also here's my opinion on thing" Thank you for that. |
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Reply to kutuya
@LittleOwlbear "You have opinion on thing? Clearly, you have no life. Also here's my opinion on thing"
Thank you for that.
Thank you for that.
| @kutuya There is obviously a difference in "no I don't like X, I prefer Y" or the senseless hatred on dubs you can often witness online. |
| It's not a hate thing, it's just that dubs are vastly inferior 99% of the time to subs. I don't understand why a person would pick to watch the dubbed version rather than the original, unless they have a condition that won't allow them to read subs. So, my problem isn't with the dub watchers, but with the dub which is soulless most of the time. |
| Don't worry, aside from they themselves, no one takes those guys seriously, even 90% of the people who never watch dubs consider them losers. The truth of the matter is that the vast majority of anime fans aren't dub or sub exclusive watchers. most people switch from show to show. |
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| you don't have to stand anyone. its the internet. there are numerous people with variety of opinions and perspectives. there's really nothing you can do except if you believe in something just stand firm on your belief and refrain from partaking in mindless arguments with strangers as it gains you nothing absolutely nothing except maybe rage if you allow the stranger that authority over you. if you want to exchange thoughts just remember to take nothing personal and that everyone has variety of views on things based on thier own knowledge and experience up to that moment. protect yourself online. more than 90 percent of these arguers and keyboard warriors won't be able to speak the same things to anyone face to face. |
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| I don’t actually mind dubs. People who hate dubs though, I don’t know, maybe they should be more open minded. |
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| I wish I had the problems you have. I really do. |
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| We are on a site dedicated to watching anime. No, I do not think you are the only one. There are so many people who agree with you that it is uncountable. |
"Wonder is always difficult until you forgive whoever destroyed your love of surprises" — Edmond Manning  |
Disliking English re-dubs is the natural disposition.  |
Reply to LittleOwlbear
@kutuya
There is obviously a difference in "no I don't like X, I prefer Y" or the senseless hatred on dubs you can often witness online.
There is obviously a difference in "no I don't like X, I prefer Y" or the senseless hatred on dubs you can often witness online.
| @LittleOwlbear Yes, one is a preference while the other is a qualitative assessment. You can probably guess which one interests me more. |
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| I don't get it. Sub elitists will say that dubs are fake, and you have to watch sub to get the "true experience." But if you watch sub, YOU'RE STILL WATCHING IT IN ENGLISH (or whatever language it's subbed in). The only way to get the "true experience" would be to understand Japanese. They're pretty dumb imo. |
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Reply to Akutsun
I don't get it. Sub elitists will say that dubs are fake, and you have to watch sub to get the "true experience." But if you watch sub, YOU'RE STILL WATCHING IT IN ENGLISH (or whatever language it's subbed in). The only way to get the "true experience" would be to understand Japanese. They're pretty dumb imo.
| @Akutsun Incredible. You're losing against your won strawman by getting hung up on semantics. If you just substitute "true" for "more authentic", which is what the strawman obviously meant, your entire rebuttal falls apart. You do raise a valid point in regards to the problem with dubs I previously pointed out also existing for subs though... but obviously the vast majority of people outside Japan do not understand Japan so they are a necessary evil. Dubs are both less necessary, since far fewer people actually need them, and more evil, since they actually supplant the original dialogue instead of just overlaying some text on screen that can easily be covered up (or just turned off in the case of soft-subs) to get the raw experience. I believe raw is strictly superior in all cases, unfortunately it is much harder to native English speakers to learn one of, if not the hardest language for them to learn just to watch anime "better" than it is to just get them to read while watching. |
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| Anime dubs are very good. I am surprised anyone even bothers with subbed anime. |
| Yes, out of all 6 Billion people on this planet you're the only one. |
Reply to animegamer245
Yes, out of all 6 Billion people on this planet you're the only one.
| @animegamer245 mal users are always special and unique snowflakes |
| There are cases like Animatrix where in the dub the characters are voiced by the peopel who orginaly portrayed them |
| i dont really care.. i watch jap ver also the dub ver.. imo jap better but dubs also good in some animes.. like DBZ DBS.. overall i like both sub n dub.. |
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| "All anime is dubbed" -C.S. Lewis (probably) |
Reply to ShatteredSans
You're definitely not the only one. People who make hating English dubs a large part of their personality are probably some of the most annoying people in the anime community. They can even be more annoying than obsessive powerscalers and shippers at times.
| @ShatteredSans Literally not one single person on Earth fits that description. |
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Reply to Adnash
They are mostly keyboard warriors yelling at clouds. It's better to just ignore, even if they can be really annoying, toxic even, at times. Like you said, if someone doesn't watch something in a certain way, then why ridicule or act like a jerk towards people who actually do? It's rather something upsetting than hilarious or even slightly amusing, because you can easily imagine the very same people in other situations, acting in a similar manner (i.e. seething over someone picking up a different ice cream flavor that the seething person don't like themself). Or wait, they are mostly that bold on the Internet and only there, so ye, I take back my words. Their behavior ain't that much upsetting. ;p
| @Adnash Dude, if you consume dub, you are consuming a processed product. Seiyuu in Japan are cast on a more professional level and their original voices are the actual voices of the characters. Just watch this video, just don’t lie that the Russian version is better: https://youtube.com/shorts/dQ41betwD1Y?si=ZkuBXqaIqnAR_qrB |
Reply to Akutsun
I don't get it. Sub elitists will say that dubs are fake, and you have to watch sub to get the "true experience." But if you watch sub, YOU'RE STILL WATCHING IT IN ENGLISH (or whatever language it's subbed in). The only way to get the "true experience" would be to understand Japanese. They're pretty dumb imo.
| @Akutsun Of course it is. But all things being equal, it is more convenient to show in subtitles the translation that is closest to the original. Not all original phrases that are translated can be voiced with high quality. For example, a character's line may be very long, longer than in the original. Also, additional information is often marked in subtitles |
Reply to ShatteredSans
You're definitely not the only one. People who make hating English dubs a large part of their personality are probably some of the most annoying people in the anime community. They can even be more annoying than obsessive powerscalers and shippers at times.
| @ShatteredSans ShatteredSans said: powerscalers What is this word? Did you make him up? |
Reply to Swyzen
@Adnash Dude, if you consume dub, you are consuming a processed product. Seiyuu in Japan are cast on a more professional level and their original voices are the actual voices of the characters.
Just watch this video, just don’t lie that the Russian version is better: https://youtube.com/shorts/dQ41betwD1Y?si=ZkuBXqaIqnAR_qrB
Just watch this video, just don’t lie that the Russian version is better: https://youtube.com/shorts/dQ41betwD1Y?si=ZkuBXqaIqnAR_qrB
| @Swyzen Yeah, and so what if I consume a processed product once in a while? I do whatever I find fun. If you wanna be so genuine and loyal to the original product, then watch it without subs at all, on official Japanese platform, and without any fanmade additions explaining stuff typical to Japanese culture. Same goes with video games and movies - experience them without subs, with their original dubbing. If you detest official foreign releases, then that's the best way to experience them. About the video you have shared, both voices sound fine and have similar modulation. So they are perfectly fine. Every country has good and bad voice actors. Same goes with Japan, even though most of seiyuus are good and skilled, due to how high are the seiyuu standards in Japan. |
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| I agree. Although I watch a lot of anime in dubbed, I don’t mind watching subbed either if there isn’t any dubbed available. |
Reply to Kokofish
I agree. Although I watch a lot of anime in dubbed, I don’t mind watching subbed either if there isn’t any dubbed available.
| @Kokofish I rarely watch anime dubbed, but I like to watch anime like that once in a while, even if, in general, I prefer subbed versions. |
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| The blanket hate for non-Japanese dubs is just another preference despite what they’d have you believe. They’re just not worth feeling strongly about in any way. |
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| And I can't stand dubs enjoyers. See you |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| Sir, you created this thread thanks to my comment and right after you insulted me -which you forgot to say so your question is ironic- for having an opinion. First, learn what free of speech is, seriously. Second, I don't respect Dub VAs especially English VAs since besides they never worked with the creators of the Anime, they also don't take their work seriously unlike Japanese VAs adding they censor scenes in the dub. Toching the original work is bad, the Japanese language is beautiful. When I watch Anime, I want to watch something different, dub ruins the experience. I don't need to mention some English VAs insert their political ideology in the dub (maid dragon dub for example) and refuse to give voice to "non-white" characters even though the majority of anime characters are non-white (Chad from Bleach for example). Don't expect me to like say nice about tourists and lazy people. So I'll repeat myself. Dubs are evil and disrespectful. Watching dub is not watching Anime properly, in fact its not watching Anime at all. It's like watching Anime at fast or slow speed, skipping scenes or put an episodes at the background without looking at it and less paying attention. |
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