| This site has been around since 2004 and a simple toggle function can't be implemented? I know this site has some , well a lot of "Japanese purists" that would never want anything to do with English or any other language besides Japanese associated with their favorite anime but this is just silly at this point. If the people running this site are so infatuated with Japanese might as well display the titles in Kanji, cause the Japanese dont even use romaji for anime. Anilist has this function so I see no reason why MAL can't. AND YES I KNOW U CAN TOGGLE IN UR LIST Which I find pretty meaningless tbh, and a function that is about 3 yrs old now. I will not call Erased "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" You guys can say what u want, but the very fact that english titles are more used in forums on this site than their Japanese counterparts is proof enough that we need a toggle function |
Cestlavie_Sep 28, 10:51 AM
| Romaji and English use the same letters... just read it lol |
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| because mal is an english website first heck how many japanese uses mal? |
| I think Fullmetal Alchemist should be finally changed to Hagane no Renkinjutsushi. |
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deg said:
because mal is an english website first heck how many japanese uses mal?
because mal is an english website first heck how many japanese uses mal?
Yes, it's an English website where most of its audience doesn't understand Japanese. Why shouldn't we use English titles then?
| @Vaturna romaji is using the english alphabets though plus there is a toggle to use english titles but not all anime have english titles hence the use of romaji |
| It looks better in Japanese in my opinion. |
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| lmao why are you so hurt over that of all things |
"Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest?"~ Suguru Geto  |
| Yeah I also find funny how some people refuse to use the official english titles, and only use romanji, when not even JP people use the romanji titles... |
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| Ah yes, my favorite anime is... Shinseiki Evangelion Movie: Air/Magokoro wo, Kimi ni |
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AMBITZZ said: lmao why are you so hurt over that of all things Cause I was browsing the popular anime page here, saw the Erased romaji title and wept. |
| Because the Romaji titles are the closest to the original titles and most MAL users can only read Latin letters. |
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AMBITZZ said:
lmao why are you so hurt over that of all things
lmao why are you so hurt over that of all things
Cause I was browsing the popular anime page here, saw the Erased romaji title and wept.
| @Cestlavie_ ooh. erased is one of those few exceptions lol |
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Ah yes, my favorite anime is...
Shinseiki Evangelion Movie: Air/Magokoro wo, Kimi ni
Shinseiki Evangelion Movie: Air/Magokoro wo, Kimi ni
| @Mualani The Evangelion titles are wrong since they're not even called "movies" in Japanese. They are "gekijouban." |
| その目だれの目？ |
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@Mualani
The Evangelion titles are wrong since they're not even called "movies" in Japanese. They are "gekijouban."
The Evangelion titles are wrong since they're not even called "movies" in Japanese. They are "gekijouban."
| @Lucifrost This oversight should not be tolerated, and the mods need to change this ASAP. |
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| Sounds better in Japanese, and when it doesn't they use English. |
Cestlavie_ said: This site has been around since 2004 and a simple toggle function can't be implemented? I know this site has some , well a lot of "Japanese purists" that would never want anything to do with English associated with their favorite anime but this is just silly at this point. If the people running this site are so infatuated with Japanese might as well display the titles in Kanji, cause the Japanese dont even use romaji for anime. Anilist has this function so I see no reason why MAL can't. AND YES I KNOW U CAN TOGGLE IN UR LIST Which I find pretty meaningless tbh, and a function that is about 3 yrs old now Romaji is literally "romanized", aka the roman alphabet spelling of japanese words, it's obvious that an english anime site will use the current alphabet used in english to write anime titles instead of kanji most english speakers don't know how to read If you want to read anime titles in kanji, go to a japanese anime site where the target audience is people who can speak, read, and write japanese |
DigiCat said: Cestlavie_ said: This site has been around since 2004 and a simple toggle function can't be implemented? I know this site has some , well a lot of "Japanese purists" that would never want anything to do with English associated with their favorite anime but this is just silly at this point. If the people running this site are so infatuated with Japanese might as well display the titles in Kanji, cause the Japanese dont even use romaji for anime. Anilist has this function so I see no reason why MAL can't. AND YES I KNOW U CAN TOGGLE IN UR LIST Which I find pretty meaningless tbh, and a function that is about 3 yrs old now Romaji is literally "romanized", aka the roman alphabet spelling of japanese words, it's obvious that an english anime site will use the current alphabet used in english to write anime titles instead of kanji most english speakers don't know how to read If you want to read anime titles in kanji, go to a japanese anime site where the target audience is people who can speak, read, and write japanese That's besides the point. I want to read them in English. I said might as well put it in Kanji if they are already using romaji |
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@Mualani
The Evangelion titles are wrong since they're not even called "movies" in Japanese. They are "gekijouban."
The Evangelion titles are wrong since they're not even called "movies" in Japanese. They are "gekijouban."
| @Lucifrost Gekijouban actually does mean movie, it's just a specific word for movies that are part of series, we just don't have a specifc word to directly translate it |
| @Cestlavie_ then make the toggle default to english titles then thats what you should suggest if you want everyone to use the english titles by default |
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DigiCat said:
Romaji is literally "romanized", aka the roman alphabet spelling of japanese words, it's obvious that an english anime site will use the current alphabet used in english to write anime titles instead of kanji most english speakers don't know how to read
If you want to read anime titles in kanji, go to a japanese anime site where the target audience is people who can speak, read, and write japanese
Cestlavie_ said:
This site has been around since 2004 and a simple toggle function can't be implemented? I know this site has some , well a lot of "Japanese purists" that would never want anything to do with English associated with their favorite anime but this is just silly at this point. If the people running this site are so infatuated with Japanese might as well display the titles in Kanji, cause the Japanese dont even use romaji for anime. Anilist has this function so I see no reason why MAL can't.
AND YES I KNOW U CAN TOGGLE IN UR LIST
Which I find pretty meaningless tbh, and a function that is about 3 yrs old now
This site has been around since 2004 and a simple toggle function can't be implemented? I know this site has some , well a lot of "Japanese purists" that would never want anything to do with English associated with their favorite anime but this is just silly at this point. If the people running this site are so infatuated with Japanese might as well display the titles in Kanji, cause the Japanese dont even use romaji for anime. Anilist has this function so I see no reason why MAL can't.
AND YES I KNOW U CAN TOGGLE IN UR LIST
Which I find pretty meaningless tbh, and a function that is about 3 yrs old now
Romaji is literally "romanized", aka the roman alphabet spelling of japanese words, it's obvious that an english anime site will use the current alphabet used in english to write anime titles instead of kanji most english speakers don't know how to read
If you want to read anime titles in kanji, go to a japanese anime site where the target audience is people who can speak, read, and write japanese
That's besides the point. I want to read them in English. I said might as well put it in Kanji if they are already using romaji
| @Cestlavie_ The anime that do have english titles have both japanese and english title on their page, click on the pages and you'll get to read the english title |
Cestlavie_ said: I want to read them in English. I said might as well put it in Kanji if they are already using romaji Romaji is used to make learning Japanese easy. You want people to be illiterate? "Japanese don't use Romaji" is 100% false. They use it when they program video games. The filenames are in Romaji. Official websites for anime titles have the URL in Romaji. |
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IpreferEcchi said: Cestlavie_ said: I want to read them in English. I said might as well put it in Kanji if they are already using romaji Romaji is used to make learning Japanese easy. You want people to be illiterate? "Japanese don't use Romaji" is 100% false. They use it when they program video games. The filenames are in Romaji. Official websites for anime titles have the URL in Romaji. I clearly meant in anime titles like check out Anikore  |
Cestlavie_Sep 27, 8:34 AM
DigiCat said: @Cestlavie_ The anime that do have english titles have both japanese and english title on their page, click on the pages and you'll get to read the english title It's not the same . When I'm looking at the top 100 popular shows, I shouldn't have to do extra clicks just to see it in English. |
Cestlavie_ said: I clearly meant in anime titles like check out Anikore "Official websites for anime titles have the URL in Romaji." I shouldn't need to repeat myself. Those official websites were created by Japanese people, and the URL has Romaji in it. |
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@Lucifrost Gekijouban actually does mean movie, it's just a specific word for movies that are part of series, we just don't have a specifc word to directly translate it
| @DigiCat I know. My point is that the MAL title uses an English word instead of the Japanese word used in Japan. |
| その目だれの目？ |
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Cestlavie_ said:
I clearly meant in anime titles like check out Anikore
I clearly meant in anime titles like check out Anikore
"Official websites for anime titles have the URL in Romaji."
I shouldn't need to repeat myself. Those official websites were created by Japanese people, and the URL has Romaji in it.
| @IpreferEcchi what official websites are you talking about? because anikore doesn't use the anime title. instead, they use numbers. for example, ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだろうかⅤ 豊穣の女神篇（TVアニメ動画）have the url https://www.anikore.jp/anime/14743/ |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
Cestlavie_ said: the very fact that english titles are more used in forums on this site than their Japanese counterparts is proof enough Would you mind providing the evidence for this "fact" ? |
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Cestlavie_ said:
I want to read them in English. I said might as well put it in Kanji if they are already using romaji
I want to read them in English. I said might as well put it in Kanji if they are already using romaji
Romaji is used to make learning Japanese easy. You want people to be illiterate?
"Japanese don't use Romaji" is 100% false. They use it when they program video games. The filenames are in Romaji.
Official websites for anime titles have the URL in Romaji.
IpreferEcchi said: Romaji is used to make learning Japanese easy. No, that is what hiragana and katakana are for. |
| その目だれの目？ |
I think the fact that we don't even have a toggle on MAL when competitors do is kind of ridiculous. I have a backup of my watchlist on Anilist and they allow you to toggle between three options of show titles that effects both your personal list as well as what name shows up when you search for a show. They offer the officially localized English titles for shows that have them, the romanization of the Japanese title for every show, or the titles in Japanese using kana and kanji. Similarly, they allow you the option for names of characters and staff members to be displayed in Romaji or in Japanese, with additional options to change the name order to be family name first given name second like in Japanese, or given name first family name second like in English.  The fact that MAL is missing basic features like this is really dumb and can cause a lot of unnecessary confusion for newer fans trying to find shows to add to their list that they may have already watched, since the display option of the name when entering "Erased" in the search bar isn't going to match what they typed in, and you really shouldn't assume that every single person knows that the show is called "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" in Japanese. Even if someone were to prefer using the romaji titles, if they simply added in a toggle for search it wouldn't hurt anyone since it would be the user's choice as for which title to display and other sites have proven that this option is effective. |
LSSJ_GamingSep 27, 11:14 AM
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| by the way, if you go to setting > list, you can set the language for the titles in your list. i don't see why they couldn't implement this site-wide. i don't think it would be too computationally expensive, though maybe i'm wrong. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
IpreferEcchi said: Cestlavie_ said: I clearly meant in anime titles like check out Anikore "Official websites for anime titles have the URL in Romaji." I shouldn't need to repeat myself. Those official websites were created by Japanese people, and the URL has Romaji in it. the URL is insignificant compared to the titles that are actually displayed for the user to see  |
Zarutaku said: Cestlavie_ said: the very fact that english titles are more used in forums on this site than their Japanese counterparts is proof enough Would you mind providing the evidence for this "fact" ? Well, I don't have hard numbers, but through sampling, it's clear. Take the forum page for AOT. In those forum titles, how many say Shingeki no Kyogin and not AOT?. This is usually the case for most shows on this app except those that don't have English counterparts  |
| Isn't it for the same reason that the Japanese use katakana to represent English words in anime names, only the other way around? |
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| Giving the romanji makes it easier to search. Giving the kanji is pointless since nobody would type it in to search. Kanji is not for a english focused website. If you understand kanji why not just use the japanese version of mal alternative instead? |
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I think the fact that we don't even have a toggle on MAL when competitors do is kind of ridiculous. I have a backup of my watchlist on Anilist and they allow you to toggle between three options of show titles that effects both your personal list as well as what name shows up when you search for a show. They offer the officially localized English titles for shows that have them, the romanization of the Japanese title for every show, or the titles in Japanese using kana and kanji.
Similarly, they allow you the option for names of characters and staff members to be displayed in Romaji or in Japanese, with additional options to change the name order to be family name first given name second like in Japanese, or given name first family name second like in English.
The fact that MAL is missing basic features like this is really dumb and can cause a lot of unnecessary confusion for newer fans trying to find shows to add to their list that they may have already watched, since the display option of the name when entering "Erased" in the search bar isn't going to match what they typed in, and you really shouldn't assume that every single person knows that the show is called "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" in Japanese. Even if someone were to prefer using the romaji titles, if they simply added in a toggle for search it wouldn't hurt anyone since it would be the user's choice as for which title to display and other sites have proven that this option is effective.
Similarly, they allow you the option for names of characters and staff members to be displayed in Romaji or in Japanese, with additional options to change the name order to be family name first given name second like in Japanese, or given name first family name second like in English.
The fact that MAL is missing basic features like this is really dumb and can cause a lot of unnecessary confusion for newer fans trying to find shows to add to their list that they may have already watched, since the display option of the name when entering "Erased" in the search bar isn't going to match what they typed in, and you really shouldn't assume that every single person knows that the show is called "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" in Japanese. Even if someone were to prefer using the romaji titles, if they simply added in a toggle for search it wouldn't hurt anyone since it would be the user's choice as for which title to display and other sites have proven that this option is effective.
| @LSSJ_Gaming The anime pictures that show in the search exist for a reason |
| The English titles, if they exist, are included right below the Romaji. Why is that a problem? |
Cold-hearted orb that rules the night Removes the colours from our sight Red is grey and yellow white But we decide which is right And which is an illusion. |
rohan121 said: Giving the romanji makes it easier to search. Giving the kanji is pointless since nobody would type it in to search. Kanji is not for a english focused website. If you understand kanji why not just use the japanese version of mal alternative instead? An English focused website that doesn't even have a function to display its titles in English. Isn't that the height of irony? |
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The English titles, if they exist, are included right below the Romaji. Why is that a problem?
| @cyandaqil they don't appear under in the search, only on the page itself |
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| Here's a thread from the Suggestions board: Instead of default Rōmaji have an option use officially translated English title I think the biggest concern is the mods will have to go through the entire database and make sure the English titles are correct and "official," instead of some fan translation. I think we can enable English toggle first and then worry about fixing those later, but that's just my opinion. I've just gotten used to seeing Romaji and identifying entries by their posters, but I vote 'yes' to a title toggle feature. |
| I respect the original language. Just because you must write in English here, it doesn't mean all titles must be in English only. This is a site for a foreign media so why are you surprised many prefer the foreign media language over the English one? English doesn't even speak by majority of the world. |
NurguburuSep 27, 9:43 AM
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| Yeah, humanity really needs a world war 3 |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| MAL wants to be consistent. A lot of anime/mangas doesn't have a english name. It's going to be pain to show the japanese name for some and english for others. And it's not that big of an issue anyways. Let it be. Cestlavie_ said: Nobody's forcing you. By the way, erased is one of the worst english name for an anime. Doesn't make sense at all why it was named erased.I will not call Erased "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" |
mshfqtnySep 27, 9:51 AM
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DigiCat said:
@Cestlavie_ The anime that do have english titles have both japanese and english title on their page, click on the pages and you'll get to read the english title
@Cestlavie_ The anime that do have english titles have both japanese and english title on their page, click on the pages and you'll get to read the english title
It's not the same . When I'm looking at the top 100 popular shows, I shouldn't have to do extra clicks just to see it in English.
| @Cestlavie_ You shouldn't have to do extra clicks? So on a site that does show the english names as the main title, but someone preferes to read the romaji ones, then is it faitr to say they shouldn't have to do extra clicks to get to it? What kind of spoilt logic is that? If you don't like the site layout find another one instead of trying in vain to force it to conform to your preferences |
Nurguburu said: I respect the original language. Just because you must write in English here, it doesn't mean all titles must be in English only. This is a site for a foreign media so why are you surprised many prefer the foreign media language over the English one? English doesn't even speak by majority of the world. That's because this is not a Japanese site. it is a site for foreign media for foreigners to use. The majority of MAL users don't even speak Japanese. It's, in my opinion, that I should be able to understand what the title means Plus, English is the world's international language, doesn't it make sense for a so-called foreign site to have that option to change it to. Mustn't even only be English. It could be French, German, or Spanish. I just see no reason in 2024 to be limited to Japanese when other anime database sites have a toggle option. |
| The better question is, why are they so inconsistent with it? I swear at one point they went full Romanji, and used it even for series no one calls by their Japanese name outside of Japan, like Fullmetal Alchemist. But then they realized that was dumb and changed it back. But then there's series like Ghost in The Shell, where they still have it up as "Koukaku Kidoutai", which I've NEVER seen anyone call it. And again, I SWEAR it was up as Ghost in The Shell at one point. I know there's series where people use both titles, GitS isn't one of them. Neither is FMA. And this brings me back to OP, because there's one thing you've forgotten. There are series that don't have an actual English title. And I'm not talking about series named after a character, Naruto for example. I'm talking shows like Jujutsu Kaisen. Yes, there's the little "synonyms: Sorcery Fight" thing on it's page, but that's not an official English title as far as I know. And it wouldn't make sense to do your sarcastic suggestion of switching to kanji, because they know most people here can't read that. And who here even has a freakin Japanese keyboard? This is something you're just going to have to deal with until they think it's worth addressing. Which, given how long they can leave an entry "pending" I wouldn't hold your breath. |
DigiCat said: @Cestlavie_ You shouldn't have to do extra clicks? So on a site that does show the english names as the main title, but someone preferes to read the romaji ones, then is it faitr to say they shouldn't have to do extra clicks to get to it? What kind of spoilt logic is that? If you don't like the site layout find another one instead of trying in vain to force it to conform to your preferences It's not spoilt logic it's a simple function that any redeemable foreign site should have. It's like MAL doesn't care to cater to the newcomers in Anime. A normal friendly user base would have the titles displayed in the user's home language is not about being spoilt it's just the standard. Why do u think Anilist is more popular with newcomers. By the way, people who prefer Kanji can also leave it like that, I'm saying people who prefer in their native language should also have the choice |
| romaji being the default title is good because first you get to know how the original title is pronounced and two, not all shows/mangas get an official english title until they're famous or piked up by licensors. so for consistency reason, default being romaji is the right thing. |
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