why? it's not like people like it irl too. by this logic, if someone likes loli, are they pedo irl??? ofc, not!! who tf thinks like that?!?!?! if i like john wick, will i kill thousands of men just cuz they killed my dog and stole my car??? ofc, not!! i'll obviously go though a legal process, and get justice that way
what are your conspiracy theories about people(vanilla fans) lean on hating netorare/ntr easily without having a single thought?
Cuz we're not all cucks. Some people actually care about their partners.
@SimplyBrazen again that narrow-minded way of thinking. didn’t you think people self-insert themselves as the bully/third person/girl, instead of a cuck? and it doesn't mean they like it irl too. it's just a fictional thing
@SimplyBrazen again that narrow-minded way of thinking. didn’t you think people self-insert themselves as the bully/third person/girl, instead of a cuck? and it doesn't mean they like it irl too. it's just a fictional thing
@based_reviewer So they imagine themselves as a psychotic sadist? Nice fetish.
based_reviewer said: and it doesn't mean they like it irl too. it's just a fictional thing
Fiction can easily influence ppl to think or behave in a certain way. The idea that you can make a clear distinction between reality and fiction is flawed as it does not take into consideration the circumstances of the person consuming a piece of media. If someone is a recluse, watching a film about school shooting can influence them to buy a gun and actually go shoot a school, it has happened many times. The amount of pedo mangakas in the industry is also proof that fictional sexual fantasies can materialize into sth very real and disturbing.
acc to Immanuel Kant,
adultery is wrong...you're using a person as a means for your gratification and hurting someone with whom you've made certain promises
acc to me,
NTR is just nasty..would you love to see our girl getting c***ed by some man or vice versa ?
dear ash,
you're not alone. i'm by your side.
my soul is always with you. 🤎🍂
— eiji okumura
@Zettaiken oh oh that don't sound good chief XD. I can see why it disliked now
@AnimePedestrian Oh and I forgot to add, NTR main character usually is the guy who's gf is cheating on him, some of them are involved with even more fetishes like Cuckold [? Forgot the name if it's not that one] in which MC literally watches his gf being banged by someone else etc. etc.
I kinda have mixed feelings towards NTR, though i don't add any hentai anime to my list because my friends IRL have links to my list(long story). So I do watch them but I wouldn't say I like the thought of someone (a spouse is even worse) watch me get laid by someone else.
@Zettaiken oh oh that don't sound good chief XD. I can see why it disliked now
@AnimePedestrian More specifically when the protagonist gets turned on by his girlfriend cheating.
But it basically became used to reference any cheating, because words stopped having meaning long time ago.
Because it's just 'isekai' of hentai/porn world - overused and typical genre. And yes, there are people which don't like being cheated on and also don't like the idea of stealing from others. Even 'cuck queen' is not so appealing to me.
acc to Immanuel Kant,
adultery is wrong...you're using a person as a means for your gratification and hurting someone with whom you've made certain promises
acc to me,
NTR is just nasty..would you love to see our girl getting c***ed by some man or vice versa ?
@ame you have the wrong idea here. cucking/cheating is not what makes ntr stand out!! it's the art, dynamic plot and the twists. and the majority doesn't self-insert themselves into a cuck, but in bully/third person/girl
A sad fact is that most Anime fans are hypocrites, they love and indulge themselves in harem where all the girls spread their legs for the MC but at the same time, feel betrayed and maddened when their waifu making out with other male characters. If anything, both genres should be hated equally.
A sad fact is that most Anime fans are hypocrites, they love and indulge themselves in harem where all the girls spread their legs for the MC but at the same time, feel betrayed and maddened when their waifu making out with other male characters. If anything, both genres should be hated equally.
@kizumi91 true words right here. and it's a sad truth :(
this also shows how many anime fans suffer from inferiority complex
@AnimePedestrian More specifically when the protagonist gets turned on by his girlfriend cheating.
But it basically became used to reference any cheating, because words stopped having meaning long time ago.
@based_reviewer So they imagine themselves as a psychotic sadist? Nice fetish.
based_reviewer said: and it doesn't mean they like it irl too. it's just a fictional thing
Fiction can easily influence ppl to think or behave in a certain way. The idea that you can make a clear distinction between reality and fiction is flawed as it does not take into consideration the circumstances of the person consuming a piece of media. If someone is a recluse, watching a film about school shooting can influence them to buy a gun and actually go shoot a school, it has happened many times. The amount of pedo mangakas in the industry is also proof that fictional sexual fantasies can materialize into sth very real and disturbing.
Aguuus said: Most people confuse overrating with overpopularity, for example the poor SAO is a victim of this problem.
Nor is there overrating, only people who do not know how to qualify fairly, like me.
There isn't really a deep reason for it. NTR is a pure hentai tag, and that's just a matter of what you like jerking off to.
If you try to overanalyze it, then reasons such as the story (usually/many times) being told from the cuck POV, and the guy who does the cucking being a scumbag, probably contribute to it.
'Cause most weebs are so insecure by nature that they can't help but self-insert into the cuck, instead of seeing themselves as the one doing the cucking like you're supposed to.
Being young makes you empathize more as the cucked guy. Being older makes you realize you are the bull/ugly bastard. Or you realize you could never get a girl in general so it does not bother you anymore. Fetishes evolve with ageand usually ntr issomething you grow into in fiction anyway. Irl is a d8fferent story.
Probably similar to why people hate characters like Deku and Takemich as well as a lot of harem protags. At least for some people. What I mean by that is just like those other examples, any character stuck in an NTR situation is a wimpy little bitch not fit for big manly man eyes to watch.
Regardless of the reasoning though, it boils down to not being comfortable watching that specific scenario.
Well, personally it just never ends well for anyone. The stories tend to push the women into the worst nightmare scenarios. And leave them there. And the guys just end up losing. Period. And it's usually just rape or blackmail. Not much to enjoy here, unless you are really into sadism. I don't mind kinky fantasy, but these just leave me depressed.
I usually only enjoy NTR in eroge format, Doujins, and Hentai just don't have enough time to properly develop a good NTR story.
And just for clarification, I see a lot of terms thrown around, so for anyone who wants to learn
From VNDB descriptions
Netorare
This visual novel has scenes focused on Netorare. Netorare is more than a simple act of infidelity, but the fetishization of jealousy and other negative feelings commonly associated with it.
For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The protagonist's significant other, a very close friend, or in some cases, a close relative is stolen from him by someone seducing, coercing, blackmailing, outright raping them, or by using other techniques. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are literally stolen, but the negative feelings experienced by their significant other might make it seem so.
2. The one who loses their loved one almost always finds out about the situation and suffers from jealousy and the feeling of helplessness arisen from an inability to change anything. The one stealing the lover and/or the stolen loved one might rub it in by humiliating the loser in private or in public.
3. The trait does not apply if the character having sex with someone else does not have a close loving relationship with the protagonist, and if the protagonist does not experience jealousy and other negative feelings upon finding out about the act. In other words, the ties between the partners and their forcible separation is important to the netorare fetish. For example, an unrequited crush or a potential hero(ine) on a different route would not count for the purposes of this fetish.
4. The act of stealing must happen while the protagonist is in a relationship with the stolen significant other. Scenes of heroine's past relationships do not count as Netorare.
The game is usually portrayed from the perspective of someone losing his significant other, in order to delve deep into the jealousy aspect of the fetish, however, for story purposes the game might switch between multiple POVs and also portray the events from the perspective of the stolen SO.
Type A - The heroine is willingly cheating on the protagonist with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.
Type B - Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.
Type C - The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish.
Netorase
By the deliberate actions/inactions of the protagonist, or by the agreement with the significant other, in this VN their committed partner ends up engaging in sexual relations with other people. Only protagonist's significant other (whether they are male or female) has sex with others.
Under normal circumstances neither side of the couple has a desire to cheat, but due to the desires of the protagonist, their significant other will end up having sex with other people. This can be a mutually agreed act with a trustworthy person, which the partner convinces their significant other to have sex with, or a selfish act, with the partner selling or whoring their significant other for personal gain (money, blackmail material on someone, etc.).
In every case, the protagonist is (at least initially) fine with their significant other being sexually involved with other people, and possibly even enjoys it.
Don't confuse with Swinging where both romantic partners have sex with others, or Polyamory, which is a long time agreement involving romantic feelings, while Netorase is a momentary satisfaction of a kink.