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Mar 5, 2024 4:04 AM
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I have a 3070 but i see new titles using 9 or 10 gb vram these days.
Should i upgrade to 3080 ti or something similar or just wait for optimizations?
I am using a 2k monitors by the way.
Mar 5, 2024 4:53 AM
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are you gonna play in 4k? higher resolutions needs more ram like vram
Mar 5, 2024 5:28 AM
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If I were you, I'd wait at least for 50xx series unless you're very rich and care about even a small boost of performance.
Mar 5, 2024 5:52 AM
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Even a 5 year old game like re2 remake is using %80 of my vram so that's why i'm concerned.
Mar 5, 2024 6:30 AM
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I haven't felt bottlenecked by 8gb yet except for some areas with very instensive ray tracing (although that could be the fault of the RT acceleration and not VRAM) but I'm usually playing on a single 1080p monitor so higher resolutions will be more affected. I doubt I can use my card for higher resolutions + RT.
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Mar 5, 2024 8:54 AM
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depends on what games you intend to play, 99% of JRPGS barely need 4GB vram, other AAA western games might require from 8 to 16 gb ram to play at 1080p to 4K.
Mar 5, 2024 9:37 AM
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also if you play in ultra high quality textures on your games then you need more vram too same with ray tracing it needs a lot of vram like the above users says too
Mar 5, 2024 2:06 PM
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It depends on what your gaming needs are. If you're planning to play in 4k at 60 frames per second, then yes it would be very important.
Mar 5, 2024 10:19 PM
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A 3070 is more than fine for gaming at 1440p. Perhaps you'll have to turn down some settings in the most demanding games, but you should be doing that anyway to optimise your framerate. Might as well wait til the end of the year to see what new cards get released. Also if you absolutely need more vram, consider going with AMD unless you really need the features that Nvdia provides.
Of course if money is no object, go ahead and upgrade to a 4090 lol
Mar 5, 2024 11:36 PM

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It's enough for casual gaming, and just about most free to play games like valorant/apex/genshin. But if you want to game in 1440p and 4k at high settings, definitely not. Game titles like alan wake and cyberpunk really push the boundaries of hardware. I'd say 10GB isn't future proof either. I think 12GB is the sweet spot right now for 1440p. I personally don't think you should go from a 3070 to a 3080 ti, not really a significant boost unless you just want the extra vram and it's not a crazy money sink. I think if you're desperate right now, you should probably get a 4070 or a rx 7800 xt. Otherwise I'd just wait for the new nvidia cards before upgrading your system. They should be coming out this year anyway.

I'd say, for 1440p 12GB is the sweet spot. For 4k 16Gb is the sweet spot. So operate within those means.
Mar 6, 2024 3:37 AM

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It's enough for casual gaming, and just about most free to play games like valorant/apex/genshin. But if you want to game in 1440p and 4k at high settings, definitely not. Game titles like alan wake and cyberpunk really push the boundaries of hardware. I'd say 10GB isn't future proof either. I think 12GB is the sweet spot right now for 1440p. I personally don't think you should go from a 3070 to a 3080 ti, not really a significant boost unless you just want the extra vram and it's not a crazy money sink. I think if you're desperate right now, you should probably get a 4070 or a rx 7800 xt. Otherwise I'd just wait for the new nvidia cards before upgrading your system. They should be coming out this year anyway.

I'd say, for 1440p 12GB is the sweet spot. For 4k 16Gb is the sweet spot. So operate within those means.
@Senpapi-sama I think you are right i should just get a 4070 because it has the same power consumption and card length is almost same if i go with anything higher i need to swap my psu as well. I dont want to do that yet
Mar 6, 2024 11:16 AM
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Bruh I have 4 gb vram and I still play nowadays games without a problem and I use gtx 970 which is already an antique...
Mar 7, 2024 6:59 AM

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Still sticking to 6GB 1080p, can play most of new or popular games 60+fps medium to ultra.
Mar 7, 2024 8:24 AM

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It should be enough, but not great.

My advice is that at least give a look for the AMD VGAs, people often look down at them but for me I never had an issue with them.
Mar 7, 2024 6:03 PM
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For the web sure. Even using a PS4/Xbox One is fine as they have 8GB of RAM for web browsing and video playback.

If you want 4K then you need likely higher than 8GB, if you want 1080p or 1400 then I think it's fine. 1400 maybe a bit more but otherwise that's reasonable to keep 8GB around and depending on the settings you set. If you want more than Low or Medium then well sure. If you want High/Ultra then well that makes sense.

I think 1080p or 1400p are still fine. I can't even tell the difference between 4K and even when I can to me the resolution doesn't matter to me. The textures are still fine enough. Sure you may on a bigger display notice it but does it matter that much no. So it's crisper but do you need the latest and greatest no.

Some times waiting is better with later GPUs. That or just staying on it for a while. Do you need to see more of the world? Or more detail. I mean for VR sure on a monitor/TV I don't care personally.

I don't actually have much reference for PC games specs and the settings scale. I just know based on the recommended and what I somewhat see in videos and each game is different too so each setting will have a different scale depending on their world size (open worlds sure, linear might not as much and depends on the detail or amount of assets/objects/texture detail and characters/enemies in the area too).

Check what specs the games you want to play/buy are first.

If talking high end games well probably 12-16+ is probably better. As someone that doesn't play high end games and has 8GB of RAM, a GT710 (it is a study computer not a gaming computer after all but I've used virtual machines and some particular games with it) then yeah you notice how average it is or well these days out of date no doubt.

I use consoles primarily anyways and since current gen games have not appealed to me at all I'm fine on older hardware. Old and new.

I don't care for high end performance for AAA titles their gameplay isn't appealing to me so why would I bother if the gameplay is formulaic and unappealing, the graphics/story telling isn't worth it to me with safe titles, leads to me yes being aware of the specs but not having any reason to give my money towards upgrading only if my PC has issues with the parts, just replacing them when need be.

Do I know enough about the AMD/NVIDIA settings no I don't, not to that extent.

Besides if you play high end Indies makes sense with more, for low end Indies which is likely most games, high amounts of RAM and GPU/CPU doesn't matter only the Direct X version or other thing but that's easy anyway with modern hardware.

Even Esports titles are pretty reasonable specs too.
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Mar 29, 2024 8:10 AM

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@Coaghim Brother, he means vram, not ram. They're two completely different things. VRAM is attached to your graphics card. Your 2080 has 8GB of vram for example.
Mar 29, 2024 12:00 PM

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It depends on what you are using your PC for. For web browsing, text/video editing and drawing that is more than enough. For PC gaming, that might not be good enough.
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Apr 20, 2024 8:01 AM
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I'd say for 1080p yes, but more will probably be needed for 1440/4k.

If you mostly play smaller indie titles, 8GB is more than enough even at higher resolutions.

I say this as an owner of a GTX 1080 (8GB).

I wouldn't buy a new card with just 8GB VRAM, I'd expect at least 12GB at this point.
Apr 23, 2024 7:50 AM

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Works fine for me when I play CS2 and Overwatch.

Apr 23, 2024 10:54 AM

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And people still play PC games in 2024? What a bunch of newbies.
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Apr 24, 2024 9:12 AM

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radeon RX 580 8 GB DDR 5...is the best.hihihi
May 10, 2024 11:22 AM
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depends what you do. I still use a GTX 1080 8GB. For 3D renders though, I need way more, best I could do for now is put my old 980 in the system. Vray can do multi gpu configs so that works. For games, well they just ignore the second GPU entirely unless they support that DX12 multi gpu feature which worked regardless of GPU.
May 11, 2024 6:10 AM

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I have RTX 2060 (6GB version) for 1080p gaming, and yep, it's still enough for all title. Last year's Alan Wake 2 ran at 60 fps with medium graphics.
May 11, 2024 6:40 AM

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Using a PC for gaming is just an epic fail imo...
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May 11, 2024 6:42 AM
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Using a PC for gaming is just an epic fail imo...
@DesuMaiden why so?
May 11, 2024 6:43 AM

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@DesuMaiden why so?
@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE because console games are better than PC games
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May 11, 2024 7:37 AM

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@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE because console games are better than PC games
@DesuMaiden Then have fun for 30 FPS games!
May 11, 2024 1:56 PM

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@DesuMaiden Then have fun for 30 FPS games!
@Citrone39 why bother with PC games?? Especially when it is all based off of Windows???
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May 11, 2024 2:37 PM
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you can use upscalers like dlss or fsr to lower memory usage too
May 11, 2024 5:56 PM

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you can use upscalers like dlss or fsr to lower memory usage too
@deg and what good will that do??
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May 11, 2024 11:18 PM
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@deg and what good will that do??
@DesuMaiden do you even know what they do? they increase fps
May 12, 2024 7:57 AM
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@deg and what good will that do??
@DesuMaiden also what do you mean by that? out of memory is not a problem to you? how can you play if you do not have enough memory?
May 12, 2024 3:36 PM

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If you just watch anime or post on forums, then it is more than sufficient imo...
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May 13, 2024 1:30 AM
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If you just watch anime or post on forums, then it is more than sufficient imo...
@DesuMaiden lol he is playing video games genius besides 8gb vram is overkill for watching videos and posting on forums like 1gb vram is enough for that
May 13, 2024 10:42 AM

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@DesuMaiden lol he is playing video games genius besides 8gb vram is overkill for watching videos and posting on forums like 1gb vram is enough for that
@deg pc games is for pansies imo...
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Jul 1, 12:59 PM

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it's not just vram amount they were stingy with watch this video entirely at 3:03 there is a graph that shows 3070 had 56% of cores compared to flagship and in 2025 with 5070 you only get 26% of cores compared to flagship. they steal our core counts as well.
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I don't play the latest AAA games or locally host AI so 8gb is plenty for me. I still have a 2070 which is the highest my 2015-era motherboard supports.
Jul 14, 11:52 AM

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all the buzz about ray tracing have dumbed down their capability. devs didn't optimize their game cause they hope powerful card will do the heavy lifting for them. i don't like the way they handle lighting now, under shade of a tree is dark as in you are inside a cave. recent games are so bad they force me to manually adjust my monitor's gamma.

going in / out of a cave in real life is only during afternoon that is harsh on your eyes, but if you constantly experience this lighting effect in game, you'd probably be wearing glass before you hit middle age most likely. sorry if i didn't use proper vocabulary / miss the proper term. this means that lighting in video game issue that i saw on yt is actually a prevalent issue.

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